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Alex and Ellis discuss Meta's metaverse layoffs and why Claude Cowork might finally make them switch from ChatGPT. Then they're joined by Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe to talk about large driving models, why most people want boring car colors, the stress of EV range anxiety, building charging infrastructures, and why driving might become as nostalgic as riding a horse. Follow ACCESS on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/accesspodcast/⁠ Follow Alex ⁠https://sources.news/⁠ ⁠https://x.com/alexeheath/⁠ Follow Ellis: ⁠https://meaning.company/⁠ ⁠https://x.com/hamburger⁠ ACCESS is produced in partnership with the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This episode was published on January 15, 2026.

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Alex and Ellis discuss Meta's metaverse layoffs and why Claude Cowork might finally make them switch from ChatGPT. Then they're joined by Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe to talk about large driving models, why most people want boring car colors, the stress...

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