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EPISODE · Feb 12, 2026 · 42 MIN

Building for efficient growth - Pavilion’s honest growth journey & the real problem behind the short CRO tenure with Sam Jacobs

from Making The Grade · host Sam Jacobs, ScaleWise, Tom Glason

Most growth stories celebrate momentum, but very few actually share the behind-the-scenes of what happens when momentum stalls. In this Making The Grade episode, we’re joined by Sam Jacobs, Founder & CEO of Pavilion - the community built to give in-seat GTM leaders the peers, frameworks, and rooms they need to operate under real pressure. Sam takes us on a journey from the early days of Revenue Collective dinners to Pavilion’s Covid-era surge. But there’s no skipping the hard bits in this episode. Sam shares the painful consequences of growing too fast, loosening ICP, and chasing scale for growth’s sake.This is a rare, unfiltered conversation about what happens when your biggest strength gets diluted, and how you rebuild when churn becomes the signal you can’t ignore.No matter whether you’re a Founder currently building or a GTM Leader facing the various challenges the market throws at you, there’s endless practical advice in this episode, ready for you to apply straight away.  📚 Episode Chapters01:15 - Pavilion’s origin story 09:23 - Scaling mistakes & lost focus 19:08 - The short CRO tenure 22:20 - Building P&L Fluency for Revenue Leaders 29:00 - Sustainable GTM Strategies 39:34 - Planning for a successful exit ⛳ Mentioned in today’s episode: Pavilion: https://www.joinpavilion.com/Intro to P&L Fluency: https://www.joinpavilion.com/pavilion-university/intro-to-pl-fluency 🎧 Continue listening… Make sure you listen to What it really takes to win in the US - Honest lessons from Natalie Johnson Enjoyed today's episode of Making The Grade? If you took something valuable from the episode, we'd love for you to... ✔️ Leave us a rating and review on your favourite podcast platform. ✔️ Share your ideas or guest suggestions with us at [email protected]✔️ Stay in the loop with the latest from Making The Grade and ScaleWise by following us on LinkedIn or YouTube. See you again next week! 

Sam Jacobs shares the real story behind Pailion’s rise, the mistakes that broke retention, and the real problem behind the short CRO tenure.

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