EPISODE · Feb 26, 2026 · 50 MIN
Building the Masonry Pipeline & Challenging NLRB Supervisor Rulings
from America’s Work Force Union Podcast · host BMA Media Group
In today's episode of the America’s Work Force Union Podcast, we explore two critical fronts of the labor movement: proactive workforce development in the trades and the legal defense of bargaining unit integrity. Segment 1: Masonry’s Next Generation in Central NY Daren Gulliver, Training Director for BAC Local 2, discusses a successful partnership with New York’s Boards of Cooperative Educational Services (BOCES). Gulliver outlines how Local 2 is reaching students as early as age 17 to provide hands-on masonry fundamentals and clear pathways into registered apprenticeship programs. Key Insight: Why "bridge programs" and earlier recruitment are essential to combatting the skilled labor shortage while providing debt-free career stability. Segment 2: Protecting the Bargaining Unit from Technical Exclusions Kate Black, Field Director for AFSCME Council 65, breaks down a significant National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) unit clarification ruling involving Head Start teachers in Minnesota. Black explains how the employer used a "statutory supervisor" argument to narrow the bargaining unit and why this case serves as a warning for unions nationwide. Key Insight: How a single supervisory factor—effectively recommending discipline—can be used to strip workers of their union protections and what AFSCME is doing to prepare for future classification challenges.
What this episode covers
Today on AWF: BAC Local 2 Training Director Daren Gulliver on building a masonry career pipeline through BOCES partnerships in Central NY, and AFSCME Council 65 Field Director Kate Black on a recent NLRB ruling that reclassified Head Start teachers as supervisors. Two vital stories on recruitment and unit protection.
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