Built, Not Posted: The Reality of Player Development

*]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" tabindex="-1" data-turn-id= "2f8c84ec-db8b-4e75-b714-7a49d5518c85" data-testid= "conversation-turn-6" data-scroll-anchor="false" data-turn= "assistant"> Football 360 Show Notes (Segment: Social plugs → Training/Development → QBs) 📺 Where to Watch + Follow (Opening) Live on YouTube + X: "Football 360 Show" Call-to-action: follow, like, share, subscribe, tell your friends Also on Instagram, football360show.com, Apple Podcasts, Spotify Radio: KLIS 590 AM (St. Louis) + looinfo.com Hosts: JP Rock + Matt Bierman 🏈 Segment 1 — "What's New?" + Training Life (Early) Matt: "What's new? Football. A lot of football every day." Quick behind-the-scenes: Matt multitasking, getting the show posted online. Training recap: Busy Sunday at the facility Strong turnout across youth / middle school / high school Encouraging: lots of middle school participation 🧱 Segment 2 — The "Big John" Moment (Size, Growth, & Why Football is Unique) JP describes a massive 8th grader who "looked like Big John." "Big John" context: Roughly 6'10.5 (measured at Elite Combine) Was 360 lbs in 8th grade, now joked closer to 450 "Big John is truly Big John… really Giant John." Fun anecdote: Lawrence Maroney (Normandy → Minnesota → Patriots) reacted: "He is huge… you've got to run around him." Point: his arm length + mass changes pass-rush strategy. Coaching note: Big-bodied 8th graders (especially 6'1–6'4+) often struggle with movement due to growth, joints, coordination. Big takeaway: football fits every body type You can have a 5'2 kid and a 6'10 kid—and both have a position "Football is a conglomerate of positions" with different attributes and mentalities Elite skills training is organized by position for that reason Mention: big-lineman pipelines at Francis Howell and Eureka 🧢 Segment 3 — Coaches as Dads + Letting Others Pour Into Your Kid Matt talks about seeing high school coaches bring their kids in (ex: Coach Brian Cook + son Ty). Personal parenting lens: Matt enjoys coaching his son, but also enjoys watching others coach him. Manning Camp example: he intentionally chose to be dad, not coach for once. "There's 363 other days where you are literally coach." 🏟️ Segment 4 — Development vs Social Media "Proof" Matt addresses criticism (from social) about whether Elite "developed" certain players: Mentions Brady Cook, Isaiah Williams, Tony Adams, Marquis Hayes and the thousands of hours spent training. Point: results and relationship depth matter more than posting workouts. Critique of "new-age coaching" culture: Work with a kid 2–3 times → post cone drills → claim development Real development includes: long-term training adversity conversations progress across HS → college → pro transitions Matt notes a moment where Brady publicly responded online to defend the work. 🎯 Segment 5 — Real Recruiting Truth: "Help" vs Guarantees Both emphasize: nobody can guarantee a scholarship except college coaches Families should look for help, not sales pitches. JP's point: people selling "guarantees" are selling you—guarantees are "worthless" Scouting lens: JP mentions he can often identify "automatic scholarship guys" the real value is helping the "dream guys" who need: the plan the performance work skills work guidance + answers at key decision points Shared belief: "The cream rises to the top," even if some pathways now lead to lower levels first. 🧩 Segment 6 — Example: Tion Gray + How Exposure Happens Matt tells the story of Tion Gray (seen as a freshman): Invited into training A D1 coach happened to be present (Barry Odom, Arkansas DC at the time) Coach saw him, trusted recommendation, and offered on the spot Key lesson: Talent matters, but being seen matters Athletes must take initiative to put themselves in the right environments 💸 Segment 7 — Football Money + Combine Reality Check Matt notes how training → confidence/skill → exposure can now lead to athletes earning money (college NIL and beyond). Shares NIL portal example: player with limited production (7 catches last year) tests portal and ends up at $675k. Combine discussion (US Army Combine, Elite Combine, KC Varsity): "You don't get there just by showing up." Combine prep is training-dependent: 5-10-5 shuttle times discussed (some around 4.25) now focusing on 40 times Point: many athletes are fast, but combines reveal where speed training is missing. Wrestler example: a top wrestler chooses to skip wrestling season because football is his future dedicates ~6 months to get ready for camps → KC Varsity → college camps 🔁 Segment 8 — Portal Local Notes: Tion Gray + Others Quick portal updates mentioned: Tion Gray is now in the portal J. Harris referenced as Kansas State Robert Kind (Robert "Kinda"?) referenced as being in the portal too (Elite Combine MVP) Background on Tion: Carnahan HS (now closed) early invite → developed through years with coaches and Boom lineman work now around 6'5, 330+ (as discussed), previously 6'4 225–230 as a freshman Big point: he "put in the work" — drenched in sweat, consistent effort, coached hard. 🧠 Segment 9 — Quarterback Development: Midwest Misconceptions + Age Advantage They shift to quarterback talent: Sunday had a strong QB group, including freshmen who "don't know how good they are yet." Compares current QB group to past elite classes (Dalton Deimos, Trevor McDonough, etc.). Challenge today is tougher: becoming the "anointed" QB recruit is harder now than it used to be exposure hotbeds influence perception (CA/FL/GA pipelines) Midwest QB argument: Missouri QBs can match the national level—often underrated due to "not a QB hotbed" narrative. Midwest football overall is strong (teams like Ferris State, Illinois State, Indiana, North Central mentioned) Major differentiator discussed: age Missouri kids often: freshmen 14 → seniors 17 turning 18 other regions: seniors 18 turning 19 That 1-year maturity gap = massive physical development difference. 📻 Mid-Show Plug (Radio) Reminder: Saturdays 11 AM on KLIS 590 AM Website: looinfo.com "Your loo info station" 🧱 Segment 10 — QB Archetype Shift: Size vs Mobility JP mentions Mizzou's 2027 QB commit from Omaha (camp sighting): around 6'0–6'1, thick build, good arm (as discussed) Matt's trend take: "Sweet spot" may be 5'10 to 6'1 now because those guys can run and escape. With today's defensive line speed/athleticism, being 6'5 isn't the advantage it used to be. Old-school QB myths challenged: "Tall QB sees over the line" — but you're still looking past 6'7 tackles. "QB on toes" — Matt argues force production requires grounding (compares to golf/baseball/basketball mechanics). Notes a smaller QB example (Washington commitment who considered flipping then stayed; name not confirmed in transcript) Around 5'10, dynamic runner and passer Reinforces belief: smaller QBs can absolutely play. *]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" tabindex="-1" data-turn-id= "90233a61-b82c-452a-9f43-49d112acefa0" data-testid= "conversation-turn-8" data-scroll-anchor="false" data-turn= "assistant"> ✅ Wrap-Up The guys close this segment by tying everything back to real development: it's not social media posts or hype videos — it's years of reps, coaching, adversity, and consistent work. They highlight how football is uniquely built for all body types and skill sets, and why position-specific training matters. The conversation shifts into a quarterback development deep-dive, pushing back on outdated myths (QB height, "playing on toes") and arguing today's game rewards mobility, efficiency, and real throwing mechanics. They emphasize that Missouri/Midwest QBs are undervalued, and one of the biggest hidden advantages in other regions is simply age/maturity (18–19 year-old seniors vs 17–18). Overall message: exposure + preparation = opportunity — the kids who train, test, and put themselves in the right environments give coaches a reason to find them.