Burning the flag + Luke Bateman opens up

The meaning of the Australian flag has changed in its 124 years of use, and debate around it is kicking off after its prominence at controversial anti-immigration rallies. So has the Australian flag become a weapon of division in this country? And we chat with Luke Bateman about his #BookTok fame, why he doesn't reflect fondly on his time in the NRL, and how he overcame gambling addiction.Listen now:01:05 - Should burning the flag be a crime?04:45 - The history of the Australian flag10:30 - Sitting down with Luke BatemanGuests: Dr Benjamin Jones, historian, CQULuke Bateman, former NRL player and BookTok influencerGet the whole story from Hack:Follow us on InstagramSubscribe to the hack podcastListen on the triple j app or on your radio live every weeknight at 5:30pm