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now the content is available right now go check it out ultimatedraftkit.com welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your hosts indy holloway jason moore and mike wright oh welcome in the fantasy footballers podcast back with you and mike and jason thursday february 11th we're real the real february 11th yes i know february 9th master rating is a february 11th no this is the real one that's sneaky snook you almost got away with it too welcome into the show excited to be with you you can find us on twitter at the ffballers youtube.com slash the fantasy footballers make sure you subscribe click the bell and uh that'll let you know when we're going live for special events or have special things going on well worth it it's just a click yeah i mean just if you have all the clicks that you have to do to navigate through the internet to get the youtube.com slash fantasy footballers or the fantasy footballers i don't even know the url it's very you're saying it's not it's not much time at all no it's not bad how many wasted clicks have you had elsewhere on the internet and this is one that's worthwhile i can't i don't even know yeah carpet tunnel we have buy or sell on the show today that's the mailbag gonna be answering some questions want to kick things off here at the top oh yeah want to say congratulations oh yeah we gotta get this yes congrats to our very own our uh content manager editor-in-chief extraordinaire excellent writer kyle we call him kyle borgogan kyle borgioni uh he is the winner of sf uh of the fswa's fantasy football article of the year which was just the name you're darn right that's right we did it that's right we have the best article of the year jason are you taking credit for kyle's article you're darn right i am i mean it was a team effort this was a complete fantasy footballers article so yeah we've got to take full credit for kyle's work i think you'd want that congrats to jason thank you and kyle and jason and kyle for their uh their article the fancy football uh article you can find it on the website uh the evolution of language in 2020 and it's a great read congrats congrats a lot of a lot of time thought effort went into that article and i know that a lot of people have really benefited from it and heart and heart and earth and wind and fire uh anything else going on at the top here you guys want to talk about nope we got some rookie profiles up on the website as well so if you are hungry thirsty it's time it's time it's rookie time and i can say the uh the dynasty pass and the uk plus has been really well received we are going to continue to add to it if you don't really know what it is there's a lot of rookie content in there team opportunities where we go through and individually grade every single team at every single position for possible uh good basically good destinations for rookies to land at in no free agents too uh and we have our dynasty startups we have the rankings and there will be three major releases of the dynasty pass this off season so the first one is up and available there'll be one kind of post-workout and then there'll be one post-draft and so you're going to have a complete picture of the dynasty landscape and i know more and more people are into dynasty leagues and so we're gonna help you out let's do some buy stuff all right buy yourself joe mixon really top 1400 total yards in 2021 joe mixon in 14 games in 2017 got to 913 2018 got to 1424 2019 got to 1426 and then he only played six games this past year in fact i think joe mixon was one of the more forgotten uh players six games played but a 16 game pace was 1509 yards and would have been rb5 yeah he had a great stretch right before the injury if you remember how you're right mixon is a very forgettable character from this previous season and the reason why is because it was an awfully delicious sandwich with terrible bread you had the start of the season where you had three games in a row you drafted him you wanted him to be the guy and he didn't finish in the top 25 running backs in week one two or three it was like oh no what have i done and then you got the the joe mixon the great experience was running back one the next week 23 eight the next week and then you got injured so yeah i'm struggling with your sandwich metaphor here sure is there a piece of bread this is an open-faced sandwich well no because the injury is the back of the sandwich you had a crap oh okay the bread's bad the inside good that's exactly what i'm saying and and so stale bottom delicious uh fillings pastrami mustard and a little bit thousand island but then the top bread is just pure mold it's not even bread that's right it's gone bad okay so maybe you turn it open-faced because you want to get rid of this piece of bread for safety reasons that is what we do with staff but now imagine that the following year you are like i'm gonna have that sandwich again i don't think you're gonna want you took a bite of a moldy sandwich that's right you're gonna say not today and so i think um people will undervalue joe mixon who is currently still not 25 years old he will be 25 this season he's a young man i believe in this office i believe in joe burrow and i i think that that dictates that he will be a 1400 combined yardage back in 2021 with an adp lower than this past year 100 has to be lower than it was this this season now there is some optimism about joe burrow potentially getting back in time for the start of the season yeah i'm not gonna put my bet there i'm not gonna put my bet there but that would matter to me a little bit about how i look at joe mixon starting the year i think i will buy 1400 total yards i think he will be forgotten a little bit um didn't really help your team i mean an injury knocking him out of the whole year and he had the christian mcafree situation where it was like when he first got hurt you said well he's probably gonna come back yeah probably this week but yeah the bangles did string that one along by never placing him on ir unfortunately the nice thing though is look at his percentage of work joe mixon was a workhorse now those first three games i mean you're still pulling in almost all of the running back attempts 95 94 all of them those first three weeks however his target share was very low in those first three weeks which has been it's been a problem with with joe mixon so those first three games it was ah crap here we go again joe mixon is a great pass catching running back but they're not throwing the ball at all but then those next three games like he had a target share the next two healthy games a 17 target share and a 28 target share like for the team that's not just the running back target share so that is a very uh good sign of life that as joe burrow was getting more acclimated we saw him starting to look at joe mixon so there is reason for optimism but the dude's body just doesn't like football he's he gets nicked up and like that's been the biggest problem so far with joe mixon has been injured only had one season completing 16 games that was uh in 2018 yeah i feel like with both joe mixon and josh higgins both players that i was really bullish on i got to deal with injuries and i got to deal with unexpected or unfulfilled pass catching promise for both players and it feels a little bit like you know jd mckissick and antonio gibson in uh you know for the washington football team where yes you can go to kiss it but when you throw to gibson he can do more with it but they just don't do it because they specialize that was what happened with joe for many years once they started getting the ball to joe mixon he was putting up big numbers they're like well mixon we can't throw you the ball because this is all that joe bernard does right but i'm really good at it yeah but it's all he does if we don't throw it to him what else are we gonna do with him i'm telling you that's just there now now he's just on the bench enough coaches get hired to where that's really true and it's true on the goal line for certain teams where they're like well that's just what he does bring in the heavy back and look people are losing their jobs with this philosophy demarco murray should have been sat down for a derrick henry explosion years before but it's no we could we're kind of we got our debt filled out in the ink over there like we're not gonna change that what else am i supposed to do with demarco i don't know what to do uh did you buy yourself oh i have done neither okay uh i got the impression you might sell it no injury the injury is a concern but i'm i don't want to be a man who's betting on injury so i will buy it because i feel like if he plays the majority of the season 14 plus games then he will hit that mark this is important for you to know out there when you think about running backs we've all three of us bought 1400 total yards out of the last five years 40 of the 41 running backs with that total ended up a top 12 running back but the one who didn't yeah the one who didn't is joe mixon it was joe mixon uh in 2019 which is one of the reasons why it was kind of his year right he was on rb5 pace at the time of the injury it was like okay you just didn't score enough and now get fixed but no it didn't all right that was by yourself brought to you by our wonderful friends at pristine auction they have hundreds of daily sports memorabilia auctions you can check them out right now they got pop culture auctions they got different sports yeah but do they have taylor heineke stuff i do not know mike i know he got paid he did so he may be like buying up some of his gear and distributing it to auctions to get some hype up but that's a mustache on i got some hot gear for you got some sign taylor heineke i saw him sign it check it out pristine auction.com use the code ballers that was one of the bits of news that uh took place patrick mahomes also going to undergo surgery to repair a torn plantar plate yeah so the whole issue of his you know what was fine wasn't an issue um okay but he did have surgery on it so it was it was not nothing it was precautionary another precautionary so he was dealing with it and uh ran for his life at uh at the seat well that's what he said he said my hurt my foot hurts a lot more when i have to run at all times when i have the ball all right you guys ready to do some mailbag let's go mailbag yeah all right al borland how are you doing today you're on the microphone i am doing well we should have a chat what's new uh nothing uh we don't have to do you in studio today so you're back there and you sit in his seat when that happens no i'm still in my seat really so there's just an absence to your right yes i'll be rubbing my butt all over that seat take this rich man they don't pants on this seat now he's in barbados right is that the yeah he's just going around the world what do you pay all these different names for like uh famous uh vacation destinations they're all the same in your head right like yes key largo yeah barbados why don't we go they're all the same yeah brooks is actually a location that us comic folk don't even know about really yes oh the unknown rich people islands yeah like he's let the name slip i don't remember what he had said but then he was like oh i didn't say that is that where uh jeff bezos is yes yeah it's actually in outer space right now all right our first question is a voicemail question you can send yours in 302464 tffb you can also go to the website the fantasy footballer.com click the submit a question button and send us your question here we go what's up ballers this is paul from chicago big fan of the show i want to know from a fantasy perspective what are some of your guys favorite landing spots for the free agent wide receivers this offseason thanks guys keep up the great work okay i mean it's a good question there are teams that kind of jump out as great potential opportunities and that goes beyond free agents that goes to some of the top tier wide receivers that could be drafted and what opportunities that they will have mike uh i'll let you start here is there a number two that you think yes let's go there hey i mean number one it's nice because if the dynasty pass that we were talking about and you broke down team opportunity all of those things are carefully laid out there and we are taking into account uh on those lists looking at restrictive free agents you know if someone leaves then what does the opportunity look like at that place uh but my favorite landing spot right now uh it's probably the packers because i just believe that aaron rogers is so excellent and you have the vante items and they need the number two guy i still honestly i still believe like lazard can be that number two who's good enough for the packers to keep going but i believe that they could upgrade and you could have another another great fantasy option we have plenty of history where aaron rogers was able to sustain two quality wide receivers three quality wide receivers if he's got a good player that's getting open he'll get on the ball um the two teams that stick out to me don't quite have the same level of quarterback but i think the opportunity is greater that would be the detroit lions who say what we want about jared goff he's not a world beater but he's also not he's not the worst he's not the worst he's not just say what you will about jared goff but listen he's not the worst listen there's somebody worse than him out there yeah he's not the 32nd best he's at least in the top 30 um but why is it so much easier to downgrade players when they're on detroit oh history history of losing it's probably the number one reason history but with galladay and marvin jones both free agents that aren't necessarily expected to return there's a bunch of targets available so that's one spot and the raiders are the other one to me they desperately need a legitimate wide receiver option you think they will really bail on rugs and brian edwards that quickly i think they will and should bail on brian edwards and the way that i've seen henry rugs from the moment he was drafted from before the draft is he's not a he's not a possession volume guy he's not a guy you're gonna give 130 plus targets to ever he is a tool a weapon to be used and i think his utilization is opened up if they go and sign uh an alan robinson bring him in and all of a sudden now the defense has to key in on these guys and you've got lightning speed on the outside that can go deep and stretch the field so um i don't think that would be bailing on henry rugs i think that would be accentuating what he does well my favorite destination is tampa bay sure because presuming that chris godwin correct if godwin leaves um i think that there's just a huge opportunity there and the offense you know the ball's going down the field brady can uh you know he's got another year i think or more so i think tampa bay is a great opportunity it's hard because a lot of these destinations are the situation that you know it's like i get excited about the raiders but then i think about rugs and i think about darren waller and i think about quarterback tumult and i think about they're running you know wanting to run the football and i don't know how much i trust it the thing about the bucks if chris godwin does leave i what do you guys put your percentage odds right now that chris godwin does leave tampa bay 85 okay so you're going way up i i would put it more like 50 yeah i'm around the 50 mark but the nice thing to me when i think about the bucks you uh bruce arian's coming back not a lot uh left in the gas tank as far as coaching tom brady yes he seems to be infinite now but the clock will run out on tom brady they're not going to just sit around if chris godwin leaves they they're going to add somebody else and say we're going to maximize this window that we have well what's ironic is there are two wide receiver free agents here antonio brown and chris godwin if either of them resign and one of them doesn't it's really good news i'm looking at tyler johnson there too because i think he really flashed and brady likes him so if they were to leave and not do a lot of agency like that they're a team that could end up you know being a marvin jones destination to me like and that could be very interesting touchdown wise by the way we have free agency shows coming out in march so we'll be talking through a lot of these things instagram question from uh cupcake craig oh craig loves those cupcakes cupcakes though you know nobody they've grown up they've grown up A piece of cake or a cupcake? Oh, man. A piece of cake. That is a piece of cake question.
Why? Because you get more moisture. You know, when you get the edges. But you don't get the top.
Well, the top, yeah. I still get the top. No, but you don't, no. I'm not cutting the sideways piece of cake from the bottom.
I guess I'll pick more of a muffin. Well, I think cupcakes tend to take more liberty with volume of frosting on the top. That's true. Well, no, cake has a lot.
I mean, I might even have frosting in the middle. I don't have frosting in the middle of my cupcake. That's true. You have swayed me, Jason.
Here's a question. In a single-keeper redraft league. Jason had five more minutes of material. I did, but I have one important, at least.
Okay, all right. You know, look, the fuck plan we care about. That's the off-season. Go for it.
And a pro tip, if you are eating a cupcake, is you take the top off of the cupcake. You rip the little muffin top off. Okay. And the frosting.
Yeah, I know where you're going. Flip it upside down. And you got yourself a delicious sandwich where the frosting is so much easier to eat. And you can take me later.
All right. It's in the middle of it. That's a lot of mustache problems. Exactly.
So you really give a lot of thought to the mustache with the cupcake? Well, have you ever taken a bite of a cupcake with a mustache? Yeah, I have. Yeah, then you've got a lot of frosting in your butt ass.
In a single keeper, redraft league, which running back would you keep on your squad? Joe Mixon, Antonio Gibson, David Montgomery. Oh, man. Single keeper, redraft league, Mixon, Gibson, Montgomery.
Oh. I will, this is a tough question. I will go Joe Mixon. Yeah, this feels like a pro-Joe episode.
Because I think when I look at these three guys, a single keeper league is a redraft. You don't look at this with age of Gibson over Mixon. If this was dynasty, maybe I would lean that direction. And there's too many question marks with David Montgomery and no quarterback situation.
So right now, it's Joe Mixon. I'm with you. Okay. I'm going Gibson.
I'm going Antonio Gibson. So I'm going to go, Gibson has not scratched the surface of what he can become. So it is a little bit of going quick. I think he scratched it.
Hasn't he scratched that surface? Yeah. Maybe like. Like when he finishes the running back two, seven, eight, six.
But he's doing all that without pass catching. That's what I mean. Where they're like, this is a fingertip scratch. This is not a nail scratch.
So maybe a rub, a gentle rub and caress. Of the surface. Yes, of the surface of what Gibson could become if they do work him in the passing game. And Joe, I'm very concerned about Joe Burrow.
I think Joe Burrow might be a pop list, candid type person. You're more confident in that quarterback in Washington. Did you see Taylor Hineke play that playoff game? I was just waiting to find out who it was.
New two-year deal. Better performance against the Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Oh, no. Taylor Hineke don't do it.
Or Patrick Mahomes do it. Patrick Mahomes, not in the Super Bowl, but in like week 12 when he dominated. In the playoffs. Oh, okay.
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He says, do you think Cortland Sutton belongs in the list of top five wide receivers to trade for in Dynasty Leagues? I've seen one video that included him and one did not. I heard a good friend of the show, J.J. Zacharyessen, talking about Cortland Sutton.
And he highlighted that in Startup, the Startup ADP from Dynasty Leagues Football, that Cortland Sutton was wide receiver 15 last year. He has dropped all the way to wide receiver 25 or 26. So just like the public perception of Cortland Sutton and his role, his security as a, he's not even a top 24 wide receiver. And Cortland Sutton is a dominant player.
A dominant player. Yeah, remember when we were talking about sneaky sandwiches? Yeah, I know where you're going. Yeah, there's a first piece of the bad bread.
And that was the drafting of Jerry Judy. And then there was the other side of it, which was like injury slash future at the quarterback position. Yeah, Drew Locke is the issue to me here. Because while when he was drafted at the beginning of last year, you had a hope.
We all didn't know for sure what we had in Drew Locke. And there was potential that Drew Locke becomes something relevant, something that can really lift up Jerry Judy, Cortland Sutton, Noah Fant, and take an offense to another level. I think what 2020 showed us is that that's not Drew Locke. He is not going to develop into that.
I would be shocked, blown away if that ever happened. You've turned on him tremendously. I have, because... You are done with him.
You are DUN. You're like, I know all I need to know. And he's not it. The five-game sample size at the end of his first year was not enough.
There was some good, there was some bad. But including the entirety of last year, I think there's enough to know. You're more responsible than Drew Locke. I am far more responsible.
And I'm not a responsible person. But I'm far more responsible for Drew Locke. Over, under, four snooze button presses per morning. Under for me, over for Drew Locke.
Okay. Okay. But my point is, I don't see him. He's an unrestricted free agent after this season.
So there's question marks on... He may be one before this season. There's question marks on whether or not he will be there, what his future is. I don't love wide receivers changing teams necessarily.
I don't see that as, oh, good. Next year he can go sign with someone. I have a better quarterback. So I do not view Cortland Sutton as a top five.
Oh, you said Cortland Sutton's a free agent? Yeah. And then I made a joke about Drew Locke. That was pretty stupid of me.
I thought you were saying Locke was. All right. Follow-up question from last episode. This one's from William.
You finished the tight end truth episode. Didn't hear us talk about Big Irv. Wanted our input as to what we think of his future next year from a redrafted dynasty perspective. Big Irv Smith of the Minnesota Vikings.
Big Irv Smith is very interesting. You still need some things to happen, though. Kyle Rudolph is technically under contract for the Vikings next year. He feels like a potential casualty type of a player, which would open up a huge amount of opportunity for Irv Smith.
And the problem with Irv, though, is maybe you get an outlier season of all the touchdowns go to Big Irv, and he's sitting at 9 or 10 by the end of the year. And you're like, sweet. Jefferson and Adam Thielen on a run first team. I mean, Dalvin Cook was, of course, involved in the passing game.
It's the ceiling for Irv. Irv's not going to jump into being a top two dynasty player in his current situation. So he's capped like that. But he's interesting to me as someone who is a lower tier guy.
You can maybe trade for. It won't take that many assets from your team to get him if you're struggling at the tight end position. Yeah, if you're hoping for the third year tight end breakup, that's the year that tight ends usually take that big jump. It's Big Irv Jr., Noah Fant, and Hocules are your options.
But I agree with what you're laying out here. At best, he's third in the packing order, and that's if Rudolph is gone. Which puts him at the bottom of those three players. Yes, agreed.
All right, Instagram question from Shannon Fisher. Hey, ballers, what's your prediction for Mike Williams for 2021? I am worried I will never get to see what Mike Williams could be. Because Mike Williams plays football in a way that is dangerous.
He jumps too high, which means he falls too far, and he does it every play. And he gets hurt. He's a great player. He's excellent.
But he feels like a part-time player. Yeah, really, I hope, because I have the exact same thought, and I hope that that is just recency bias of this rookie Justin Herbert year and the injury-riddled season that Mike Williams had this season. Because the reality is, he's a very good wide receiver. And if he can stop doing the thing where he falls from 20 feet in the air straight to the ground and hurts himself, I do think he has, you know, the skill set, the ability, and the quarterback to take a step forward and be a really good option.
He will be someone that I will be targeting at the very end of the draft. Because I don't think he's going high. I think he's a double-digit type player. He's going to be a borderline in the draft.
Exactly. And so when you're at that point in the draft, and you're looking at these flyer options, Mike Williams could be nothing next year, but he has the talent, the quarterback, where if everything clicks, the fantasy could be, you know, huge. And I feel like we spent forever talking him up at the end of last year. Like, this could be a week where he has a great week.
And it was like, he was getting 81% of snaps, 82% of snaps, 84% of snaps, This is his fifth year. Yeah. Mike Williams has been in the league for a long time. Five years of hype.
I mean, I know the first year it was, that year was going to injury. But it's 2021, Jason. I'll throw this to you. Is he on your list for the Devontae Parker, the Corey Davis, these guys that have just basically been not doing much for fantasy football?
And then they're like, oh, hey, yeah, this player is good. In year five. Well, I mean, we've seen him. You know, he had a top 24 season in his sophomore year, so I don't think it would be quite the same.
And I don't think he has the ability to leapfrog and become the number one, unless Keenan Allen has a catastrophic, you know, season ender. So no, season vacation. So I don't put Mike Williams quite to that list of breakups this coming season. Nelson Aguilar or Mike Williams?
Mike Williams. Why? Because he has a team, first off. Right.
And I think that the Raiders bring in a prominent wide receiver. I think that's their number one goal right now. All right. Trevor McCarthy from Twitter.
What item in the studio would be the most dangerous weapon in a battle royale among you three? I call this. Okay. And he's a microphone trophy.
That's pretty good. Oh, this thing's really heavy. Academy of Podcasters, people's choice of word. 2016.
It is very heavy. I feel like it's unwieldy. It's wieldy, Mike. A direct blow to the back of the head is going to work.
Is it sturdy enough? Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah.
You don't even need to hit him with this. You just punch holding it, and your punch is super straight. Your fingers will break into a thousand pieces if you do that. Look, I'm taking the custom helmet, okay?
Because I got defense on offense. I can wear this sucker, and I know concussions are, you know, you're not going to knock me out real easily, and then I can take this thing off. Okay, Miles Garrett. And Miles Garrett.
Oh, oh, oh, oh. Do we still have that? Mike's looking around desperately for a weapon because he's about to lose a fight. No, I don't see the Japanese gait that we had made.
That's out front. That's not in the studio. All right. All right.
Oh, man. Oh, what are we talking about? The footy award. The footy award.
That thing is dangerous. It is sharp on nearly every single side of the trophy. Okay. And you'll have the honor of being taken out by a footy award.
Yeah, that's true. If you're going to go out, you'll probably just give up. There's a chance if you're wielding that, I would volunteer to be hit. Yeah, that's tribute.
All right. Let's go to another Twitter question from Jordan. Keep Alvin Kamara for a late first, or Kyler Murray for a late seventh? I would take Alvin Kamara.
Some of this is going to be determined based on the quarterback situation. I presume this is also single quarterback. Right. Because otherwise, it's clear.
Yeah, it's single. But let me change the question, then. Because is there any way I would be able to... Like, if it's just Kyler Murray for free?
Or Alvin Kamara for a late first, would I change it? I think it would. Because the seventh is pretty late. The reality is, like, there's going to be...
Like, for instance, Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts will be a later round guy that I'll be all in on for fantasy. There it is. Jalen Hurts is so good.
Oh, I thought we were getting kissed again. That's what it felt like. I'm on edge over here with those sound drums. It feels like there's a really, really large gap in what you're expecting to get between getting Kyler Murray, who is the number one quarterback for a large part of the season, and what might be with Jalen Hurts.
So, like, just hypothetically... I think Jalen Hurts, in his three starts, had the third most points at the quarterback position. Yes, that doesn't matter to me very much. Yeah, I mean, I think that the cost...
You know, we look at Lamar Jackson's breakout year and Pat Mahomes' breakout year, and the differences between those and even Kyler's this past season is that Kyler's was expected, and he was going in the fifth round. Whereas you've got Lamar Jackson so late, you've got Patrick Mahomes so late. I'm looking for someone that you can hopefully get so late, and maybe the fantasy community... What about Kyler Murray in the seventh?
Wouldn't that be getting that late? Yes, it's really late. If I could take Kyler Murray in the seventh... You get Kyler Murray, and you get Saquon.
You get Kyler Murray, and you get... Okay, you get Kyler Murray and Nick Chubb. Versus... Versus Al Camara and hoping for Jalen Hurts.
And Jalen Hurts. Quarterback of your choice. I mean, because you get to draft him. You don't get Josh Allen, you get Kyler Murray.
Let's just take those two, because obviously, there is a caveat here. And I'm just exploring. You don't know that you're going to get Jalen Hurts, but let's change this question and say, would you rather have Nick Chubb and Jalen Hurts? Or, I'm sorry, Nick Chubb and Kyler Murray.
Yes. Or Alvin Kamara and Jalen Hurts. Yes. I would take Alvin Kamara and Jalen Hurts.
I would take the Kamara side. Which side are you on? I'm on the Kyler side. So, hopefully we have explained some thought process here for you, and you can...
I think what we got out of that was that you guys are both confident in Jalen Hurts, maybe more than even Philadelphia is. Yeah. Or Samesies, because all the rumors are they're trading Carson Wentz. Yeah.
Obviously, if Wentz is there, then I won't have the same expectation. No, I'm not expecting that. I'm expecting it to be Hurts based on the news. Where does Perry McLaurin stand among other wide receivers?
This question comes in from Instagram. In skill set or fantasy? I would say fantasy. I think that's what we do.
Well, it was not clarified. It's for the fantasy show that you're on right now. Yeah, that's a good rule of thumb. All right, Terry McLaurin or Alan Robinson?
I guess that one's sort of impossible. Mike Evans. Oh, Mike Evans. I'll take Mike Evans.
Adam Thielen. Redraft single season, I would take Adam Thielen. Oh, man. That one's very close.
I think I might take Terry there. Julio. Julio. Single season Julio.
Okay. Yeah, I mean, I see Terry McLaurin as a... Top 20? So, the words that were about to come out of my mouth were a low-end wide receiver, too.
So, I feel like it's more like 20 to 24. I don't think I see him as a top 20 until the quarterback situation changes, which could happen this year. And so, we have to wait and see where he's going to land if Corey Davis were to go to the Green Bay Packers. And he's the wide receiver.
That makes more sense. I know there's a lot of buzz about Juju because he posted the picture of himself on Fortnite in the Green Bay Packers. Oh, is that what happened? Yes, he was playing.
I thought Al Borland was the only sole proprietor of this hype. No, I think Juju wants to go there. But, notoriously, historically, the Packers have not paid up for wide receivers in free agency. And I think Corey Davis is the type where maybe they can get him for more on a budget.
But would you be in on Corey Davis if he was the wide receiver, too, for the Green Bay Packers? Yes. If he was the two, yeah. Is Lozard a free agent?
I believe he has an exclusive rights for you. I can bet that, though. I mean, being in on Corey Davis probably doesn't mean much more than being in on him now in that situation. Who's going to score more touchdowns?
Devontae Adams or Corey Davis? That's the leader question. Just answer it really fast. Okay, Devontae Adams.
Robert Tunyon or Corey Davis? Robert Tunyon. Yeah, so. It's kind of tough.
Tough than that. I mean, I know everybody wants people to go to Green Bay, but we've been doing this for so many years now. Trying to find... the next Jordy James Jones Lazard is an exclusive rights free agent so he's a packer who's a better actual wide receiver Juju or Corey Davis oh since Mike wants to talk real football I apologize I want to talk football this guy the gumption I think I would take Juju yeah I'd take Juju too and for your Green Bay discussion Robert Tunyon is a restricted free agent so Green Bay has got to figure out some stuff that means he can sign with another team but he can't leave his room right there's a couple restrictions on what he can do he's got an ankle monitor it's not nice alright this question cracks me up just reading it because I feel like I can step into your shoes Mr.
Ryan Stern with this question and know how you're feeling not because I'm experiencing it but because I've experienced it with other players is there a landing spot for Lev Bell that would give his dynasty value a boost oh you're waiting for us to save your bacon right now you want us to give you the magic word of how Lev Bell Lev Bell's done guys the answer to your question is absolutely not when it comes to fantasy production but maybe when it comes to being able to unload him for something and that means if he signs anywhere if he gets a contract with any team at any point in time he is on the block and you move him for the third round pick you ask for that second you ask and you're not going to get it but then you accept the third and I want to be clear when he signs with the Argonauts you need to just say Lev Bell signed and then go try to trade him yeah I'll accept a fourth oh my goodness yeah that's coming from somebody who knows that they have an asset that is expiring expiring to Instagram question from Sawyer Van Swerp what do you think Austin Eckler's ceiling is very short guy I imagine oh it's a short guy joke oh great friend of the show Austin Eckler are you going to do him dirty like that we love you Austin but you're not super tall that is also true however he can he can fight the three of us oh yeah if I could choose him as a weapon for the battle royale I would choose Austin Eckler the three of us if we brought in both producers both programmers you got our customer service guy and we flew in Kyle Borgo I mean we could have the whole team here and I would not choose the field I would choose I'd put the helmet on that's for sure and he would still lose I'll take the table how are we feeling about Austin Eckler right now we didn't get to see a lot of him last year and you know this is Justin Herbert's team now I'd still feel great about Eckler he's a great player he is an excellent opportunity where he's he's got the money and they know what his skill set is he has already been unlocked so the ceiling for Eckler is a top five running back I don't think he's top five you don't think he can hit top five I don't think that that is in his ceiling but I do what was he two years ago well I'm saying for this version of the team for 2021 with Justin Herbert's world with a better improved defense that's not super injured I think he is a solid safe high floor running back especially with the passing volume that he gets I'm looking at his game logs and his every week he's good that's great exactly but that's not a top five type of back that's not a back if you do that every single week when you're talking about the top five and you're talking about the guys he's not an RB1 for your team I think a low on RB1 is okay there but when you look at the top five guys who finish at running backs they're constantly almost every week top ten finishers Phil is gone Mike Phil is Justin likes to throw downfield that's no disrespect to Austin Eckler he's going to be a good player but I think we really did see the fantasy maximization of Austin Eckler with Phil Rivers I mean here as a comparison the running back five from this last season was Aaron Jones and his fantasy finishes are 12 1, 13, 8, 15 they're all a heavier green on our website than the back and forth teams finish but you do have consistency you do have a floor you're never going to have a bad game from someone who can catch the ball if you're down and be a part of the reason why you're up I'm going to give you a chance anything else to add are you good no alright what's your least this is going to end it with this one Twitter question from nobody that's their name what's your least favorite of the nicknames that you three have ever developed for players on the show is it Turok no Darnell Anderson is the nickname for Daryl Henderson it is just another man's name which I see your point it's confusing and then we start using it and I don't know what his name is anymore I just want him drafted Jason I just want Darnell Anderson drafted I can tell you that mine has become like I actually loved the nickname when we made it I'm talking about Smooches you just brought it on I know but what I don't like about J.D. McKissick's new nickname is and we're all waiting for it here I think that's why we're not getting it oh there it is there it was that drop made me not want to bring up his name it's a little scary I thought you used to really hate Tariq the dinosaur oh it was bad I think the listeners were okay with it which is really the peak of any nickname be okay with it just keep listening alright that is it for the Fantasy Footballer Podcast today the real February 11th we'll catch you next week goodbye thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter at theffballers