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EPISODE · Jul 8, 2025 · 53 MIN

C2: Leading Through Change: Real Conversations About Resistance, Layoffs, and Emotional Intelligence

from The Art and Science of Difficult Conversations · host Chris Wong & Lucie Tesarova

“The greatest danger in times of turbulence is not the turbulence itself, but to act with yesterday's logic.” – Peter Drucker Welcome to this special compilation episode of The Art & Science of Difficult Conversations, where we explore the emotional, strategic, and human side of leading through change. This episode brings together powerful insights from five episodes across Season 2 to support you in navigating difficult transitions—whether you’re leading others through uncertainty or trying to find steady ground yourself. You’ll hear from leaders, coaches, and professionals on: Transitioning from military to civilian leadership and the deep lessons in self-leadership and autonomy (with Rick Fearnbaugh) Navigating communication challenges and energy depletion in the digital era (with Purdeep Sangha) Turning your own layoff into a launching pad for purpose (with Kelly Meerbott) How to support team members who resist change—especially with new technology (strategy episode with Lucie & Chris) How to deliver layoff messages with dignity, compassion, and clarity (with Summer Miller) Throughout this episode, we invite you to pause, reflect, and ask:What insight can I take from this to lead myself or others through change with more clarity, empathy, and courage? Need Support? Navigating change isn’t easy. If you want help applying these tools or having your next difficult conversation, reach out to Lucie or Chris — contact info is below. We’re here to help. Contact Lucie  If you’re interested in learning more about Lucie’s programs, visit her at www.mindfittery.com or email her at [email protected]  Contact Chris If you’re interested in learning more about Chris’ live difficult conversation course this September, email him at [email protected]   

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