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Oh, it's 2023, baby. We're back again soon approaching Nicholas Cage's B9th birthday, just one year away from the stress 60th. What we're doing here on the podcast, as we come upon a fresh new year, we like to look back at 2022 in Nicholas Cage's career and have a little peek into the future, get out of crystal balls and try and figure out what is the future of Cage's career looking like? What do we have to look forward to joining me for this conversation?
The only person I know who is well versed in all things Nicholas Cage's myself is the one and only Daryl Edge from the Cage's book. Daryl, how the devil are you? Well, happy bloody new year. First and foremost, look at that placement of time there, making it relevant.
I'm good. I'm well, I'm still a bit chilly. I've got a new Dion, got a new deal for Christmas that was delightful. I've not taken it off.
I'm absolutely humming. I'm starting by 2023 stinking. It's what I've done. It's used to your body.
It's fused to my paws, but the only thing that can freshen me up is some hot-cage gloss, which is what I'm here for. Nice. Nice. Well, before we get into Cage to come.
It feels festive, saying that, doesn't it? Oh, Cage to come. Let's talk about all things Cage of Christmas past. So 2022, what did you think of it as a cage year?
Because I think it's pretty thin on the ground for Cage content. Yeah, Cage is 2022, was basically means of interviews of him being shortbread, the unbearable weight of massive talent, and then just tidbits of films to come. It was kind of the shortbread beginning, the film middle, and the dessert just out of reach. So there's lots of Cage news, but for us, we're having a cage goers.
I want more meat on that bone. Yeah. Especially when you're caught up on Cage films as we are at this point as well. We're twiddling our films for most of the year.
Yeah, but what I'd say is interesting as like a Cage fan is this was one of the first, I reckon in the last year is that the first time we've seen Cage back on the kind of world stage in regards to press and stuff like that, we had Nicholas Cage as a cover star for GQ this year, which was an absolute boom, right? Like, did you think when you started your podcast, you know what, in a couple of years, I'm going to see Nicholas Cage on the cover GQ magazine. I never thought I'd see the day. I never thought we were happening again.
When you're playing catch up as well and you're going through the highs and the lows and the lows, you get some low periods, a lot of good films that stick in there, but you're holding out hope for your boy. When is he going to come back, not that he ever left, but when is he going to come back? And then he's on GQQ, he's on magazines. I mean, he was also on James Corden, so we could, you know, swing him roundabouts.
We can't do it all. But even with that, he's not really done TV interviews for about, was it 14, 15 years at that point? So that's exciting as well. He's back in the nation's heart again, where he belongs.
And when was that Hollywood report around table as well? Was that this year, or was that the tail end of last year? That felt like that was interesting to see. So he kind of took on like this elder statesman role, all of these kind of, all of these acts.
And even then he was kind of like teasing stuff that we're yet to see, which like feels crazy. I think it is crazy that we're living in a year that we've seen one Nicholas Caterham, which I guess for me and you was a massive one, right? A pun intended with your bare-bought massive talent. Well, absolutely.
So I think the round table was about this time January last year. It feels like it was just yesterday we kicked things off with an absolute round table. He's there, Andrew Garfield, Flanking, Jonathan, Majors, Simon Rex and Peter Dinkley, which I think are on the same table. Just listening to his insane stories that only Nicholas Cage could have about life or death battles with a horse named Rainman.
And now obviously a memorable way of passing talent drops puts him back in the feature film arena as well. Obviously got that Pedro Pascal boom. But for us as well, sentimentally quite a big one. We got to worm our way into a multimedia screening, which was very, very odd.
You got to do the director and writer. So close yet so far to getting that Cage content on the part. I know, I'm not sure how you felt, because I got an email that said, has like rules of what to do when dealing with Nicholas Cage. And I was like, bloody teases.
But you tell me the etiquette of what I do if I'm in the presence of Cage. You're not giving him to me. You have the Cage. It's like you're not going to get him.
But if you were, this is kind of the prep of what you need. I mean, you're in those like waiting rooms in like the Zoom meeting, and you sort of get to put me there like interviewers and like outlets and stuff. And I saw a few different people who from media later got the Cage. And I was sort of like, you're just a slight scone.
Just like, not that I was unhappy, you know, like Tom and Kevin, lovely, lovely people had a great time. But you see those other people getting Cage and think you worms, you snakes. This means nothing to you. Yeah.
Yeah, that's like, I tweeted out last night because again, well, yeah, Nicholas Cage not just had a GQ cover. He is currently the cover star of the like newest issue of Empire magazine, which I'm not sure if you've seen the cover for it is pretty like, it's pretty tame that like the regular cover. Yeah, it sat down in like a geode. Yeah, so you got you got Cage, but then they've got like a subscribers cover.
Which is Nicholas Cage and his beautiful Chow Chow. Bruce Lee. And I like, yeah, I was I tweeted about like buying this issue. Cage on the cover, of course, I'm going to buy it.
And a bit of a name drop here, but Nick de Semlin, the editor in chief of Empire magazine, interacted with the tweet, he retweeted it and kind of said, like, said, oh, yeah, you know, I'm jealous of anyone who's got that subscribers cover. He's like, I'm jealous of anyone who was at his house. And it got me thinking like, Oh, what I would have done to just like, carried a light, germane for the photo show. I thought what I would have done is just like, I don't carried the micro SD cards, Jada.
Yeah, I got the very important job of carrying the micro SD card. So they don't get lost in these photos. Do not get lost to the sands of time, Mr Cage. I am the effectively the ring bearer of this interview.
This is your house is my Graceland. What and it got me thinking and I'd like to know your thoughts on this is, what do you what do you reckon like physically would happen to your being? If you were to step into Nicholas Cage's house, Daryl? I mean, I know I've jumped about this before, like what I do if I actually met him.
But if you're in that sacred ground hallowed ground, I feel like I have to bring especially like a pair of slippers to put on. My my earth is not touching like a fiber of his carpet or hardwood floor. I wouldn't assume he's a carpet man. He seems like he's got a hardwood floor edge about him.
I think I have to like take like the road from the hotel, assuming I've not slept out in the streets way, this opportunity, which I'm not above by the way, but I feel like I'd walk in and just every molecule of my being would just start vibrating and my eye would just start leaking. Whenever I was made off, I'd just start becoming pure energy, like Thanos snapped just to steal and become one with his house. I think I'm like that. I'm not sure.
Have you seen the everything everywhere at once? Yes. I think I would just like combust into confetti. Just in excitement, like just being there.
I would like I often think about it. Obviously that is I guess an ultimate goal for both of us is to speak to Nicholas Cage. And it's like giving the opportunity. I reckon over Zoom, I would be able to hold my shit down.
But in person, like I don't know, would I become like a 14 year old girl at a beat? Oh, I mean, what I just like. It's like you've been lost the use of your legs, which I think is a very understandable and natural reaction. So I think anyone would agree with it.
If it happened, I know it would happen to me. I think I'd say Zoom, if it feels like you'd sit in like in the office space, you've got times go for your notes and just like, Oh, hydrate, OK, it's just through a screen. Yeah, you could shit yourself and he would be able to smell it. I would just become like about like half an inch higher.
You'd just see my chair as I'm just on a mound of brown feces. But absolutely worth it though. And we pray for the day, well, 2023, be the year, lots of stuff coming up. Who knows?
Who knows? He knows we'll both be pestering. We'll both be hitting some beehives, hoping to get some honey. Almost likely we'll get stung and get nothing.
Couple of regular podcasting poo bears over here. So, yeah, talking of stuff to come and where we could potentially poke some hives and get some honey. Well, let's let's let's start off. We've kind of going through this chronologically.
Talk about film that for all intents and purposes is out there. It's been out there in the world. It's had its premiere at the 2022 Toronto International Film Festival. That is Butchus Crossing.
Are you excited for this one? What are you kind of what? Yeah, what are your feelings towards this film? What do you know about Butchus Crossing, Daryl?
Well, in terms of Butchus Crossing, you know, I'm one of these people who says like, Oh, another good book me. But obviously for Pat Rossy's perspective only, there's a bookshop behind me full of unfinished books that I've had every intention to go back to for many, many years, but just don't do it. Butchus Crossing, though, West Another by John Williams, I have read from cover to cover when I was on holiday with my other half in 2022. And spent most of that time in hotel room suffering with sunburn because I had delusions of grandeur and about being a ginger man in 30 degree heat.
I won't show the images of what my legs look like because you will vomit to deal with. But I've taken this book with me and absolutely love the I'd say it's probably one of my favourite books that I've read. It's just absolutely, you know, the minimum requirement of the book. The page turner.
But I really sort of covered the cover. I think I got through it in four days, five days, absolutely devoured it. And the character that Cage is playing Miller, you can read that book as Cage that is a role sort of, but at this stage of this career, he can absolutely nail. So I know some reviews coming out of Tiff and you feel like I like that box as well, sort of a bit middling, but I'm still holding out hope.
I'm looking forward to it. And hopefully I've not got that, you know, you get those people like, Oh, why are you watching the movie? You should read the book. It's much better.
I don't really want to know those people. I never want to turn into one of those losers. But I'm hopeful. I'm very, very hopeful.
So it's a good people idea like what to look forward to this one. It's described as a frontier epic, but an Ivy League dropout as he travels to Colorado, the Colorado wilderness where he joins a team of Buffalo hunters on a journey for his life and sanity at risk. So I guess Cage, Cage plays one of the head Buffalo hunters writers, this Miller that you've described. Yeah, he's an experienced hunter.
He's a man of the wilderness. He knows how to handle himself. But a gruff man, he becomes quite obsessed with this sort of manifest destiny of hunting these buffalo going to lands, which they say are unexcred. It's more of a too far out, too dangerous.
They've got to brace the elements each other. And again, it's one of these characters that like once you know Cage is playing it, you can read it in Cage's voice as I did. But then again, I'm a very, very ill man. And it was great.
Like this is, this is a role I don't doubt that sort of Cage can absolutely do in his sleep. And I think he's going to be a certainly a highlight of this. Obviously if they do it well, like a lot of things, like the thing with like nature and like the times are a changing and, you know, they always are changing. So it could be a prescient, press it little thing if they may write right.
But now even now saying out that I'm just going to be watching this film a little bit like cross-ago like, well, it wasn't like that. I'm paying $157. I can hear myself speaking. I'm like, oh, darling, you've become what you've become what you hate.
But yeah, I hope the film will do justice. They just the book. They're only recommend by the way for anyone who's not read it. Yeah, it's just interesting that there hasn't been any release date of this.
Like, because it's, Sabin films have required the US distribution rights and altitude who released pig got the international distribution rights. And it's just, when are they going to pull the trigger on this one and get it released? Because it's just confusing. It's a first time narrative feature, at least director of debut from Gabe Polsky, the director kind of made his bones in producing and documentary filmmaking.
I believe he was a producer on Bad Lieutenant. So he has some kind of has some form with Cage as well. So yes, yeah, he'll be it'll be interesting. I'm excited.
The cast is very much people that I enjoy. I like, yeah, like Fred Hirich. Yeah, Herchinger as well. He was great in the fear streets.
Yeah, he was in the white lotus as well. He's in the first series of that. He played Steve Zahn's son in that Zander Berkley as well, who's famously just plays our souls in a lot of stuff and is always great. He's to play the chameleon in the craven the hunter film.
Yes, yes, please. Zander Berkley. Him or the young guy? Fred.
Yeah, it's good. Say, actually. And a Berkeley might be a bit long in the tooth for God. God bless him, Mr.
Berkley. And Paul Ray Cheesen as well. He was amazing in the sound of metal if you saw that film. It's been on the long list for a while.
The same as the white lotus. I keep seeing the two saying send me to the white lotus. As a self-proclaimed meme farmer who's out of touch with a rather than prescient meme, I find it a personal insult to myself and I'm not caught up. But I'm a lazy, lazy man.
OK, well. Um, speaking of, well, just making a lazy man, somebody who is in a lazy man at Nick Liskage and which is crossing could have been like his first foray as a wider audience. We'd send him dive into the world of the Western, which I guess we need to talk about and possibly can by talking about the next film on the list, which is the old way, which as is looking right now, we will be able to see just in a matter of weeks in on the 13th of January. This film is released.
I know that friends of the show, the Prince Charles cinema will be screening this film from the 13th. Like, what an absolute what is happening, Daryl? We're just getting the case, we'll just just just squeaking out. I know it's absolutely insane.
Like we were sort of joking there saying, you know, the one film from Cage, but before we start recording, we were just saying like he's been, he's been sneaking around like no one's business filming. God knows how many films and how many that we know about. We're going to discuss today. But then we said, you know, in the past, oh, Nick Liskage hasn't really delved into the properly, the John of the Western.
I know Red Rock Western, I know that's a neo noir. Western is that how it's built. But meeting bones, proper Westerns, two coming along at once, with Bertrand's crossing the old way. And I tweeted about this a few weeks ago.
A trailer just dropped out of nowhere. No one told me. Cage has got a handlebar mustache in it. He's got a trench coat.
He's doing like Western cowboy things and shooting falls. He's the old gun slinger facing the demons of his past. He's got those comically long sort of like revolver guns. You know, people want a red dead redemption film.
He's given a bloody two of them. I really like the kind of premise of this one where it's like, not only is it Cage, like getting revenge, but along for the ride as his daughter. And he's kind of by the looks of it, he's teaching her the ways of the old way of the gun. And she's kind of getting in on the action, which, yeah, looks, it looks pretty great.
Like the director, and I don't want to be disparaging to anyone, but his kind of his filmography of films, he's directed, like in a film called Axe of Violence, which by the looks of it looks like one of those landfill Bruce Willis films that we kind of got from like 2018 up until 2021. Yeah. And yeah, nothing on his kind of filmography really, really jumps out as being like, you know what I mean? Like why haven't I seen this movie?
But you never know, like, you could have just been a dormant talent waiting. And this could be the film, the old way, could be the new way, baby. I think it could be, you know, I think as we both said in like previous podcasting was the mind, you know, it can't just be very much been looking for that new, that new blood, that new director, working with a lot of open coming and lesser well, established talents as well. And the trailer from what I saw, I don't know that news has recently just dropped about film studios getting sued, they dropped misleading trailers.
But from the trailer that I saw, it seems all right. It seems good. I'm like, okay, okay. I'm with this.
And the tagline according to IMDB is, revenge don't care much for the law. I was like, oh, I've got one then. Give me that vengeance, sunshine. Is Brett Donah, who are guys?
I'm still kind of just baffled. Yeah, like, theatrically in the US, this is released on the 6th of January, which famously January is not a great month for releasing films. So famously dump you when films kind of get just plopped out. But hey, if it means we're getting more Nick Cage, I'll take a dump, dump you any day of the week for the new Nick Cage.
He's a bold move, the release, a year to the day of the insurrection of the Capitol building. Do you mean like? Yeah. Christ, it is as well.
One way for America to recover. One way to remember that. Nicholas Cage, Nick Haps and motherfucker, the revolver. The Cage, but all Hill riots.
Here we go. Oh, yeah. So we've got that to look forward to in the very, very near future. A film that seems to, I'm not sure that exists.
I need to mention this one is the retirement plan. Have you said much about this is a film that says it should be out now, says it should be out in 2022. It should have been released. I've seen a poster for this film.
I've seen steals from this film. I've read the pots and ops for this film. Yeah, we have not seen this film. Daryl, what do you know about the retirement plan?
I think I think this is almost like the more obvious effect. I've seen so much about it and allegedly it's out, but I don't believe it. I think this could be Cage's more obvious. And that's a bold claim to make.
But like you know, there's news reports about this film looking on Google now as far back as May 21 when I think it first got announced. So Jackie L. Haley, Joel David Moore, Ron Perlman, Ashley Green. So team up Perlman and Cage again.
First time since season of the witch. And I said the plot is not there. And like I said, the poster is out there. The never seemed to be an official confirmation if that was a legitimate poster, but we've accepted it.
I think I've seen maybe two posters, but then it just kind of, I don't think there's been any news about this film since September 2022. It's just gone off the grid. And this has been, you know, we've had like what five, six, seven new Cage films announced in various states of production since then there was time that planned the sort of outdated most of them. It was announced around probably even before butches crossing in the old way.
Yeah. And like I'm baffled about this film because of all of them, obviously, you know, we're saying that I'll surprise about the old way coming out of nowhere and dropping in January. Just sort of out of nowhere. And even on IMDB, it says post production expected 2022.
You know, 2022 baby. So this is right. Does anyone have the contact details for writer, director Tim Brown? Can we find this man?
I'm looking, I'm trying to find some information, but what baffled this? We don't know what's going on with this one. It's just confusing. Do you remember that film Operation Fortune, the guy richy film?
Like got to the point that it was like being trailed. It's like Jason Statham's in it, Josh Hartnet, Hugh Grant, Charlie Honeham, Aubrey Plaza. Yeah, it's called Operation Fortune, Rooze the Gure. And I remember seeing trailers for it all the way back in like February, this year, if not before then, it's getting trailed, trailed, then all of a sudden just plop off the face of the earth.
And the retirement plan feels like my version of that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like who's got, does anyone have distribution for this? I don't know.
Like who's holding a film from us that has Nicolas Cage, Ron Paulman, and Ernie Hudson. It just feels, it feels crazy. Right? Someone out there knows something about this goddamn film and I demand some answers.
Does it even have a Wikipedia page? That's a real challenge. I don't think it does. I don't think it does.
I have a quick scroll down here. No, no, no, no, no. It's just- Right. That's going on.
It's just listed in the kind of plethora of Nicolas Cage stuff that just says TBA on Wikipedia as well. So there is kind of- Who knows? Who knows? Who knows with this film?
I think it's- It sounds like it's been retired at this point. So for those of you don't know what this is, we're kind of talking about this relic. And this very much, despite the fact like Nicholas Cage came out with pigs that skewed the whole taken like trope and kind of buck the trend and did something different. This very much feels like it is leaning into the taken thing of the kind of the unique angle is Nicholas Cage plays some kind of beach bum, he's kind of used to just hanging out as opposed to but he's got some yeah, he's got some skills in his locker that could prove dangerous deathly when he's a strange daughter needs some help with a daughter.
Well, he's got the long gray hair and sort of the old gray beard in this one and people have taken, there's been on the internet, people have had pictures with him whilst he's been filming this, he's when Hawaiian shirts, he looks very much like the character he disguised himself in the unbearable way of massive talent, it's like basically that guy's got his half a spiff off film, which is my connection to the multiverse of sadness, this is the Cage connection, every Cage film happens in the same user universe, don't challenge me on that, I'm right, okay. So Kate, I mean, Cage just filmed something, this is what we're driving out here, this is... That or it's just a big holiday write off, Tim Brown was like, I like Cage, I like Ron Perlman, I like the rest of these guys, let's just have a holiday to the Cayman Islands baby. I think as of this recording, this film is a tax write off, until further notice, we stand to be corrected, we want to be corrected but right now, the information we have suggests that this is a cover up or something else.
That's because it's a water promise film, David's ass laughs, I'm just like, and written it off, that would be an absolute, that would be, that would be absolutely disheartening, wouldn't it, if Cage just kind of got swept under the carpet, just to save a bit of dollar on taxes. Oh, he deserves better, he deserves better. He spent so many years paying back his taxes, don't just make him attack right off, ladies and gentlemen, come on. He bought his stone, his little Gio'd chair, let him enjoy his Gio'd chair, please.
Right, from something we don't know if it even exists, there's something that Nicholas Cage filmed in relative secret, is a film called Sympathy, the Devil. Did you, did you, did you, did you, did you remember, were you there on the internet when this kind of like, sloughs kind of broke this and was like, oh yeah, by the way, Nicholas Cage is in, in Vegas shooting a film of Joel Kinnaman, did you, did you think that when people were kind of like, like writing about that on social media, Daryl? Yeah, I saw like bits and pieces about it, but I don't, I think the way this news got broken, it was kind of like it wasn't real, all about like the retirement plan. So I didn't admittedly, and to my discoretism shame, I didn't really engage with it a lot.
And then I said, like the Reddit investigators, the Toyota sleuths out there drops that cage in Joel Kinnaman, I've got a psychological thriller coming out, they crack the name of it. So I mean, they, was this one supposed to come out of this run to international film festival, is this one still searching for buyers and distributors? I'm not sure, no, because this one was, this sort of filmed like fairly, fairly late, like, I want to say like August, September, so this is like, this is fresh in the cat. And the synopsis of this is after being forced to drive a mysterious passenger at gunpoint, a man finds himself in a high stakes game of cat and mouse, where it becomes clear that not everything is as it seems.
So who, who are we thinking is the man at gunpoint? Oh, oh, here we go. Nicholas Cage is the passenger. And he's the gun, he's got, he's got Joel Kinnaman at gunpoint.
Oh, he had to be. There was no other way that was going down. So we got Villaness Cage. And let's think, let's think back, back to Red Rock West, Nicholas Cage, there's a famous scene in that where he is being made to drive a gunpoint, like the absolute madman that is Dennis Hopper.
So hopefully we get Nicholas Cage channeling some of that, some of that Dennis Hopper, anger and menace, it's simply for the devil. It's all coming full circle, baby. And I think, when was the, I think in the chronology of Cage films, when was the last time you had Cage as like a villain? I'm trying to think, maybe like, bad Lieutenant, I mean, he's obviously like an anti-hero, he's not a good guy, but he's definitely not, he's very much a bad Lieutenant.
But out and out, I guess it's speckles in G-Force. Oh, G-Force, how did I forget about G-Force shame on me? Yeah, I mean, I'm just scrolling, I mean, he's played some morally ambiguous characters when there was that period of time in the straight to DVD stuff where he released the same film about five times about a former cop who wants vengeance, or thereabouts. Mom and Dad, maybe?
Yeah, I guess he kind of got to flex a villainous muscle in that and not a very nice guy, Joe, they destroy the portable, watching the hokey-to-cake. And before that, I think obviously, you know, face off to an extent, kiss of death as well, Little Junior Brown, or the Weezie McGee. He doesn't do villains a lot though, as we look at it. I am convinced that he was approached to be in bullet-tray as the Michael Shannon role, he's in that film.
He's a kind of Japanese culture-loving leader of like a gang of like samurai sword-wielding madmen and long limp hair, and it's like that is a role that has Nickliscage's name all over it. Born to play that role. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of, you can only imagine there was some kind of caught-like scheduling conflicts as to why Nickliscage did do it, but that was a role that was written for him. Sorry, I'm a bit busy on there was time and plan.
I'll be here there soon. I mean, my limp wig in the Cayman Islands, I'm taking photos with the locals. What a life, what an absolute life that they've lived there. Yeah, interesting, I think it's quite quite all their interest in synopsis, it's obviously depending on how they do it, it's going to be all filmed in the car, as anyone knows how interesting Nickliscage in the car can be.
I say very. That's me putting my flag in the hill. Yeah, the fact that it's kind of like, and it just is testament that Nickliscage can just just keep stuff under his hat. I mean, we kind of don't know about stuff until it's like that happened.
Yeah. I think that basically wrapped and it's like Nickliscage just shot a film. Yeah, I think he's got red hair in it as well. I think this is the period when he had that dyed red hair as well.
Is this the red hair one? So that picture's like a kind of cage of red hair, people are like, what's all this about then? So maybe this is the one, maybe this is the red hair cage that we're finally going to get here, and we're going to get some bloody answers. But I really enjoyed that about Cage though, because it's always exciting, like news just drops out of nowhere.
There's no sort of buildup to it. You don't say these official accounts saying like, well, we've got some big Cage news dropping at 5pm EST, whatever those weird American times are, your island's too big. That's probably the last three, four months of 2022. Cage news just kept dropping, and it was like, what is all this?
There's still loads more to discuss, but it's just incredible that he just, I think this is the benefit of not really having like a social media presence as well, just a man who keeps himself does his movies, does the media rounds, and then goes back to the grind. No one's just humbled as Nick of the Scades, that's what I'm saying. I'll challenge anyone who says that I'm not right on that. Yeah, no.
Well, let's talk about a few, like that is everything I believe that is likely to be 2023. So I guess now we get onto, yeah, we get onto some stuff. It's kind of in the distance, and I guess we might might see it in 2022, depending on how quickly post-production happens on some of this stuff. But next up, we have dream scenario.
Do you know, what do you know about dream scenario? Well, this is the long-awaited Nick of the Scades A24 collaboration, which we've only pun intended dreamed of until now. I think quite recently to record, this is the onset picture circulating of bald Cage, or like the monk kind of hairstyle bald on top hair round the sides cage, people are like, dooh, some say it's a wig, some say it's a legitimate shaving. These are the questions I want the answers to more than anything else.
But this is one that seems to have a lot of people excited. I think A24 or anything always gets tongues waggling and mouth salivating. So, and for me, I know as arty and snobby as it sounds, like some people just don't get it. But A24 rarely lets down.
It's a very high bar they've set for themselves, so I'm expecting some greatness from this one. It's got a really interesting cast. So Michael Cyr is in this, and I know that in the aforementioned Empire article, Nicholas Cage has been shouting Michael Cyr is pray saying like how dedicated and how much he kind of just knew the material coming onto certain, like the joy to work with. So that's exciting.
We've got Tim Meadows in there as well, he's kind of like a great comedy actor. So I'm excited to see what that is. And the director, unfortunately, haven't had the chance to check out his previous film, but looks really interesting. So yeah, Christopher Borgley directed a film called Sick of Myself, which just has like a really striking poster, if no one's seen it of a woman kind of in hospital, you know, like a hospital gown, face covered in bandages, wearing sunglasses, smoking a cigarette while sat in a wheelchair.
It kind of looks like he saw the film worst person in the world as a title. And when I'll do you one better show you something even worse, kind of looks like a kind of scathing takedown of, you know, fashion and like, almost like illness, porn, the way that we kind of glorified, make our kind of ailments like sexy and cool for the internet. So that looks really interesting. This is, yeah, this is his English language debut.
As you said, A24 of producing this. Ari Aster is one of the producers on this film. So yeah, and the plot for this is very brief, but, now, tell me what you think about this, because we can only imagine who this sentence is talking about. A schlubby professor who never made it becomes an overnight celebrity after appearing in everyone's dream.
I mean, I'm absolutely, and if you can grab someone in a sentence, and I have a feeling that schlubby is going to be our boy cage, it's very, very intriguing. I think quite an interesting premise as well. I assume like the elongated version of that was becomes an overnight celebrity after appearing in everyone's dreams with hilarious consequences. If they added that of like, yeah, I'm actually engorged right now.
But I'm very excited about this one. But was Ari Aster one of the people that Cajun named as well, that he wanted to work with recently, he named a few people? Yeah, yeah. So I know it's not in a directing capacity, but at least like he's kind of, he's got his fingerprints on this film.
And principal photography on this film has wrapped as well. So it started on October 18th, 2022 and finished on the 21st of December. So who knows, we could be hearing about this late next year. We could be seeing this film or, I don't know, I guess, I guess on my money, we might be seeing it released Sundance 2020 or maybe, who knows, I'm trying to think maybe they'll get it for TIFF.
Maybe not God, no, I don't know what the post-production is like on a film. I mean, according to Wikipedia, I think with all the films we're discussing today, all but one is now allegedly in post-production, but maybe in a beautiful, idealized, well, the perfect timeline, we get seven new Cajun films dropping in 23. Oh, the boys will eat this year. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. I find it quite funny for friends of mine, friends of the show, Daryl and Matt who do is Paul Dano. Okay. Anytime there's like, H-News, they're like, what it's like to be you, Petra, it's just me, because Paul Dano news is like, few and far between me.
So like a picky with his roles and kind of like, the last one, maybe every 18 months. And it's like, we're over here rolling around in picture, being like, oh, we're just waiting for seven dominoes to drop now. That's what we're working with. And yeah, but Dano hasn't, he hasn't had one, still hasn't done hot one.
So one, they know on that one. Yes. Yeah. And he came supplied with his own sweat band.
So you got to have mad props to. And I suppose Dano does actually know the Dano podcast exists. I don't think Cajun knows that we exist. So 1.5, nil, maybe two nil to Dano.
True. Well, maybe we'll, I don't know, I reckon Cajun knows. It's just not letting on, is it? He's not letting on.
His manager must say like, I don't have a email from some absolute root bag today asking you to be on their Nicholas Caj podcast. Speaking of shlubs. Speaking of shlubs. Maybe you need to leave some prep for these roles.
Maybe go on these podcasts and see how these shlubs live. I know, holding that home for the incredible bite of massive talent too. Maybe they'll give us the call or have an actor playing us. They imagine.
That would be the dream. So before we get into stuff that is kind of just very much in the early stages, let's talk about a film that we 100% know is coming out. We have a release date for this film. And it's going to be, I guess, the biggest Nicholas Caje film of 2023.
And that is Renfield. We've got our boy is Dracula. What do we figure this one, Darryl? How excited are you?
I mean, in terms of anticipated Caje releases, if Renfield is not at the top of yours, then something has gone absolutely wrong there. I mean, we start with vampires kiss. We now make it away to the full vampire transition. He's playing old, old Dracky Boy himself.
And I think people like, let's go to find Dracula. Okay, I can kind of see. And then the second that those pictures drops of him in the full Dracula ensemble, the red suit, like the nails on the hair, slitting back like the white-pailed face and the purple, like wine stained lips. I think it's fair to say that the internet went justifiably crazy.
Go, yes, yes, yes. And actually nothing against Nicholas Halt. I like Nicholas Halt. Nicholas Halt is great, but no one's really talking about Nicholas Halt, because he is the lead character in this.
This is his movie. And I say it with the utmost respect. No one gives a shit about Nicholas Halt in this. People want a full-fledged Caje track of the film.
I think some early reviews came out from test screenings and the unanimous feedback was, we need a some more Caje, which I think we can all agree on. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, he said in this interview, the empire that he's kind of, he was still trying to flex his muscle and do some weird stuff that he saw in like NOSFARATO.
And he's not quite sure if some of it made it or not. But, oh, yeah, it's going to be interesting, as he said, because it's Nicholas Halt is the lead in this. And it's got an interesting, it's got a kind of great cast. So we've got Ben Schwartz in there.
We've got Aquafina as well. We've got Adrian Martinez. We've got some interesting people. And it's directed by Chris McKay.
I believe directed the Lego Batman movie. The man's got Tanya. The man's got Stasher. And the Tomorrow War.
I've not seen that film. Not seen it, but like I said, the headline of Renfield is Nicholas Cage's Dracula. Obviously, I expect we're not far away from a trailer because it's meant to be dropping in April 23. So I feel we're not far out from a trailer.
Maybe February, March, I think we'll be expecting something. But Cage recently did an interview where he said, I realized the movie has a comedic pop art attitude. So I thought this will be a pop art Dracula. Warhol did a great black on black Dracula.
This is in that Warhol vein. So you're getting a no-saratu plus Andy Warhol plus vampires, Kia's equals Nicholas Cage's pop art Dracula. And I am so, so on board. He's got a lot of inspiration for this, saying like malignant, and I'm so, I couldn't bring you the way that she moves.
But potentially this is going to be the definitive Dracula of our generation of our times. Step aside, Snoker, your estate now has to accept that this is the Dracula that the people want. Stop spinning any grave, lie down and rest. You absolute bag of bones.
This is the future that the left wants. Okay, okay. We got Karloff, we got Cushing, we got Lee, the Oldman, and now we have Cage in the Pantheon. I'm all the incredible.
Of Dracula's. I'm all here for. It is genuinely not just, not just Nicholas Cage from this is one of my most anticipated films of the year. I'm kind of chomping at the bit to see what this film is.
And it's going to be exciting to see it in a multiplex cinema, which is something that is like, it's crazy that it's, it's, it's, it's few and far between of Nicholas Cage films. Do you know what I mean? Like, I know we got it with my bare-able weight, if that's a talent last year, but to have, to be able to just go into a screening and kind of watch people react to Nicholas Cage is always, is always fun, gentlemen. Not, not like, not somewhere like the Prince Charles, where it is very much like an audience who are kind of in on it.
To be there watching it with quote unquote just regular people, gentlemen. The normies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I can see myself again the way that I did with massive talent kind of just going in just to kind of gauge the audience vibe of what the kind of the temperature is on Nicholas Cage in 2023.
Yeah, it's going to be an exciting one. I think of all the films coming up, I think this is one that is definitely going to get like a wide distribution and not just a limited, you've got one chance to see it on the moon cinema. And if you can't get it to your own stupid fault, wait until you get a cheap Blu-ray, it's online or whatever, have you. But I think between this and Dream Sonar, they're currently my top two anticipated Cage films at the moment.
That's how I'm feeling. So there's two more Nicholas Cage. One of them is not even listed on his Wikipedia pages. That kind of, it's that kind of fresh and in the workings, in the early stages.
The first one we have is Sand and Stones, a film that filmed in Ireland in November 2022 and is a re-teaming up with Benjamin Brewer of the Trust and is written by Michael Nylon, who is Nicholas Cage's manager. What do we know about Sand and Stones, Darryl? Well, I know this one, he has twin teenage sons in this one. This is meant to be a post-apocalyptic film, which has been, was this one filmed in Ireland?
I think they finished filming it in Ireland recently, which if I'd known I was on the first flight, I'll know. Again, this is what I mean, the secret Cage productions, you just can't predict them. I think this one is, I've two very recently announced, I think, a late October November, this one was released. And he's dipping his little toes into not straight up horror, but films with potentially horror elements, because I've bloody discussed him picked up on this one as well.
It's very interesting. This is, I know for the plot, it seems, it kind of gave me a sort of, I don't know, like a, the last of a sort of vibe here, post-apocalyptic, old man looking, trying to protect the children, that kind of thing. Yeah, a quiet place kind of vibe too. Yeah, it's quite interesting.
It's one that's piqued to my interest. We don't know much about it yet, but it definitely piqued my interest. And from what I remember, what I know of the Trust and the Brewer Brothers, obviously Alex isn't co-producing this with Benjamin this time, but the Trust was a really solid film, and it's good to kind of see those guys back on. And the fact, yes, it's written by a Nittles Cage's man who's like long-term manager, Mike Nylon, is, hey, if this is something that he's kind of had there in the back burner being like, I really want to get this made.
And I know that, I know that there's, yeah, Braxton Pope, like a regular like, collaborator in production is kind of working on this project as well, like, it's exciting. And back in, when would have been like September, October, somebody slid into my DMs and I'll keep my source anonymous. Who works within like film insurance and was like, just a heads up, Nicholas Cage is likely going to be Ireland in November, filming the film. My company are currently doing the quote to ensure the movie.
I was like, oh my God, we've got more new Nicholas Cage. And I felt like such a, such like a kind of insider whore being like, emotional embezzled. That is what I've got the scoop, baby. I've got the scoop.
Not like I do anything with it. That's what it feels like to be a top reporter. We can just say, my source. And then the sources I made it up.
It was me. I was the source all along. And the other project we have on the docket that I guess is really early doors, but Cage is signed on being this project is Longlex, the new feature from Oz Perkins, the son of Anthony Perkins, famously the Norman Bates in the psycho films. So what do we know about Longlex?
I think this is one that was one of the most recent to drop in the realm of Cage law. But I can't mention it for that. I promise this is not an advertisement. I'm not a sleep agent for them.
Bloody disgusting picked up on this one again. And they headline Nicholas Cage starring in horror movie from writer Oscar Perkins. And it's deadline described as being in the vein of classic Hollywood psychological thrillers. So Nicholas Cage is typically his tone to thrillers more horror stuff, psychological stuff.
So maybe this is like 2324. It's going to be the the psychological horror portion of Cage. I saw someone tweet before saying, could Nick this cage actually be our first action horror star, our first proper action horror star. And I'm starting to see some credence for that argument.
But we'd say long legs, it's been compared to he said, I'm playing a possessed Japetta. It's like a thriller inspired by Pinocchio. So it's an unexpected twisted take on the Blovetail. So you look at that and you think okay.
All right. Tell me more. I'm sat down. I'm waiting for your information.
I'm like a baby bird with a mouth open, waiting for that fucking grub. Shut it down my goddamn throat. It says about a character. This is what Cage just said.
It's about character who's hearing voices, kind of like a possessed Japetta who's making these dolls. So, okay. All right. I mean, this is the thing for all the films we've discussed coming up so far.
There's an interesting argument to be made for all of them about why they should deserve your attention and your money when they drop. And I'm about to go bankrupt. That's what I'm saying. Well, I don't think they all prove that despite the kind of the goodwill that Nicholas Cage has been granted from stuff like Pig and the success of Unbearable Wet Massa Talum, that he hasn't he hasn't just rested on his laurels and kind of like just being like, Oh, I'm just going to play it safe.
I'm just going to do the renfield. I'm just going to do the studio fair. He's using this to be like, let's do interesting stuff, continue to do interesting stuff. Let's use this as like license to not rest on my laurels.
Let's do the work. And that's what's great with Cage. He is this kind of student of acting and film and will be in as much as he can and as varied as possible. And it's always ever more exciting for what we're doing.
It's like it just continues to the ball rolling and kind of different projects are interesting and new fresh talent. Well, this is exactly it. And you look at the chronology of Cage as well. You know what, four decades now, 40 years in the biz.
And again, we say highs and lows. But again, you sort of ask the question like, as biased as we are in saying this, who else is doing in like Cage, because all of these projects, you know, the six, seven projects we discussed here, all of them equally interesting, all of them incredibly different. And he's not doing like the same thing over and over again. And you know, some in production, some still filming, but some of them, you know, we we've got like a false sign up for some of them.
We've got like a sentence and tint bit, but all of them are like like, fuck it. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This man's not even 60 years old and he will not stop.
Our podcast will be going for at least another 10 years at this rate. There's, yeah, there's, there's, there's one man that I think we both know of who, who kind of rivals Nicolas Cage in this. Any time. And it's probably just as ferocious of kind of, this, this past six months, it seems to be every other week is I've an announcement that Nicolas Cage is in a new movie or Willem Dafoe is signed onto a new movie.
I know, I know, we, and I know we've said it before, and I swear this isn't getting the foe you is not our retirement plan. It exists. It's going to happen. Yes.
But we promise it's going to drop. But, you know, as we've said, that life keeps happening and I'm punched drunk from the foe and Cage news at this point. I'm on the ropes. It's the first round.
I'm just like, my manager's about to wave the tail. We've got to stop the fight and I'm screaming through battered, broken jaw. I didn't hear no well. So, oh man, what a life, what a time, what a time to be alive.
A time to be alive. So, yeah, this has been an absolute joy talking to you, Daryl. I'm kind of, I don't know, getting out of crystal balls and trying to figure out what the future of this cage is going to be. I think what is great is, it's just all excitement from here on out, right?
We'll hopefully be, yeah, well, we'll both be dropping episodes, I guess, within the month talking about the old way if we have a chance to see it. I know we're going to have to start throwing out our emails very quickly to find out because this is, we cannot overstate how suddenly the old way has dropped on both of us. So, we are sweating right now, not to be behind the curve. If life allows, we'd be lovely to go and see it.
That depends if the train strikes are still happening at the time of this recording. A sport of strikes, by the way, sport of strikes, sport the work, sport the workers. We're going to feverishly type emails and send tweets and messages begging for a crumb of the old way just to get a ease us into the new year. And then at some point, we will release an episode of Getting the Phone You, I promise.
This is a joke. Before we head on out, I put it to Twitter and asked people, what are the films that they're most looking forward to in regards to cages upcoming stuff? And the guys from podcast, nobody asks for. Hello, Ian.
How are you? They both put, well, I'm assuming Ian, I'm going to go to the show, but Ian, he put Renfield all the way. Every story that comes out about it makes more and more excited. You can feel it down in my loins.
We have super Marcy, but all for me is Renfield, cannot wait. And old Marcy's podcasting partner, but definitely Renfield dream scenario and long legs for sure. I'll be going for those for a couple of those ones that we know little about. He's keeping abreast to what is going on with the cage that he's already excited for, for long legs.
And him and us both, long legs, you talking about that, Japetto, that possessed Japetto. I mean, I'm salivating at the thought of that. It's going to be going to be excited. I can't wait for the day that we're pretty back here.
Next year, talking about that film yet to be released. I mean, the sad thing is that statistically at least one of these has to be an absolute dud. One of these films is going to break our heart. Now, I'll hit the bottom.
Well, one of them already has. The time of plan is already broken our heart. It's supposed to be out by now. So let's just hope it's that one.
Just because it's already done the damage of starting to break our hearts. I'm going all in on saying the retirement plan is going to be the heartbreaker. Mark, my words, listeners, there was time that plan is going to put us all out of business. And if it turns out to be amazing, well, I'm going to jump out of the window.
That's a Daryl guarantee. If it does, that's great. I love it all along. It was my most anticipated.
So yes, so where can people keep up to date with you, Daryl? Obviously, what is going on with the podcast at the moment? Because you are up to date. Are you just resting back, kicking easy?
Do you have anything in the pipeline or what can we expect from your? Well, I have rested for too long and I must arise from my slumber. I am working on some cage range revisited, cage range, the uncanging, the re-reconning, whatever you want to call it, visiting some older movies in the chronology of the podcast before I had guests on. Some of them didn't quite adjust this to some revisiting some of those.
I hope into release at least an episode because I've been off in the ether for quite some time. Hopefully January time, if not soon. I'll be sweating, trying to find some contacts for the old way. And as we've joked about through, we've got getting to foe you coming.
So myself and Pat Ross will be working through the ever, ever growing filmography of Willem Dafoe. Again, we promise you we're finding the time to do it. We're sourcing guests. It is coming.
Pat trusted a theme tune. It absolutely slaps. Have we not earned your goodwill by now? Have we not earned your goodwill?
Trust us, it's coming. But outside of that, you can find me on all the usual social media's Twitter. If it's not destroyed by the time this comes out, if you're on set down or not, cage on the score podcast. The link trees on there, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
But I'll earn all the usual social media, I'll earn all the usual streaming platforms, cage range, and Nicolas Cage podcast.