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EPISODE · Oct 9, 2025 · 1H 2M

Calling All Degenerates | Packers Therapy 485

from Packers Talk · host Chris Richards, Dave Erickson

Bye week? Please. That just means open season for the Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Picks and a full hour of Chris and Dave gleefully poking at the Packers with a stick. We kick off by welcoming “all you degenerates” (their words!) and delivering a gloriously unhinged Ticket King read, including a debate over whether it’s “TicketKing.com” or, uh, something the firewall should block. Wisconsin’s finest since the 90s, baby.Then it’s on to the week’s main event: previewing the Cincinnati Bengals helmed by the timeless wonder Joe Flacco—yes, that Joe Flacco—freshly anointed as starter at age 40. Expect jokes, some geriatric scouting, and an earnest look at why Cincy thinks the savvy vet can hold the fort. The fellas stack that against a Green Bay defense that—statistically!—has been elite vs. the pass (tops in yards per attempt) and top-five vs. the run, even if Dallas left bruises. Meanwhile, the Bengals’ pass D? Seventh worst by YPA. File under: opportunities.Jordan “Trap Door” Love also gets his turn on the couch: somehow fourth in NFL passer rating (113!) despite one back-breaking pick that tanked the Browns game optics. The guys re-litigate how one throw can hijack a narrative, and they game out what a smart plan vs. Cincy’s shaky pass D should look like.WR watch: Christian Watson returned to practice—no promises for Sunday, but decoy-deep shots to unlock Kraft? Discussed. (Also: do not “Zach Tom” him back onto the field.)There’s a spirited mini-clinic on why passive, umbrella “prevent” looks drive fans insane, with shout-outs to aggressive DCs who actually send heat on money downs (Spags hive, rise).Special Teams Corner returns (bring antacids): Desmond Howard nostalgia, the ghosts of Seattle fakes, and a plea to put real dudes on kick block/return units because everyone is attacking Green Bay’s edges right now. Justice-someone-please-block-somebody.The Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Picks segment sprawls gloriously: Micah Parsons sack math (decimal points included), longest Bengals completion, when Cincy scores its first TD, Jacobs YPC optimism (OL health caveats apply), Tucker Kraft target share, and the traditional Packers total-points tie-breaker. You degenerates know the drill—email Mike and get in the Google doc.Mailbag & moments: A Chief Tom limerick (!) gets the full dramatic reading, and the episode is dedicated to Don Gray—mentor, Peace Corps legend, and friend of the show. Classy, heartfelt stuff amidst the chaos.Pop Culture: Dave’s on Hulu’s The Lowdown plus a rave rewatch of Deadwood—36 eps and a movie of Shakespearean swearing, frontier ethics, and a doctor everyone wants in-network. Bring subtitles and a strong constitution.All that, plus the usual sarcasm, fake board-meeting minutes, and a totally normal amount of confidence that Green Bay will come out “frothing” on Sunday. Packers therapy never tasted so spicy. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/packerstherapyPayPal: [email protected] its first show in 2005, Packers Therapy is the longest-running Packers podcast on the Internet. Hosts Chris and Dave began the show as a way of capturing the spirited chats the two co-workers had about the team around the office. The two have no pretense about being experts: they are just two opinionated shareholders who love the team, follow it closely, but don’t always see the Packers fortunes eye to eye.The guys encourage comments and questions via their Twitter feed @PackersTherapy or email to [email protected] and read and respond to as many as they can during each show.Packers Therapy is a part of the Packers Talk family of podcasts, serving up five distinct podcasts to satisfy the most fervent of Packer fans. Variety is the spice of life, so subscribe to Packers Talk on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also follow Packers Talk on Twitter and Facebook. 

Packers Therapy dive: Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Picks, Joe Flacco’s Bengals, trap-door Love, special-teams angst, and Deadwood-level profanity.

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