Calling Is Formed, Not Found | Joanna Meyer
from The UpWords Podcast Hosted by Upper House
What does it mean to follow Jesus not only in who you are, but in how you lead, serve, and work? On this episode of The UpWords Podcast, host Joy Fea sits down with guest Joanna Meyer, founder and executive director of Women, Work, & Calling at the Denver Institute for Faith & Work, to explore vocational discipleship: forming people for a whole-life "yes" to God that reaches into their daily work. Joanna traces her path from aspiring high school social studies teacher to twelve years of campus ministry, a season in global telecom, and more than a decade at the Denver Institute, showing how calling is often formed over time rather than discovered in a single moment. Together, Joy and Joanna walk through core ideas from Joanna's framework for vocational discipleship: influence that flows from hearts renewed by Christ; our identity as image-bearers and stewards; participation in God's renewal of all things; and women as agents of flourishing. Along the way, they talk about productivity and overwork, a redemptive understanding of power, generous leadership, and the mentors who help us see what God is inviting us into. WHAT YOU WILL LEARN Why vocation is "a whole-life response to God's voice," not just a category of religious work How Christ's renewal of "all things" gives new meaning to daily work, from private equity to HOA boards Setting a generous table for women across theological convictions and life stages Joanna's candid reflections on overwork and being "addicted to mission" A business leader who built pre-apprenticeship on-ramps for people facing barriers to employment What a redemptive, servant-shaped understanding of power looks like across a workweek Breath prayer and daily silence as portable practices for busy workers Why God's hand is often clearer in the rearview mirror than in the road ahead ABOUT OUR GUEST Joanna Meyer is the founder and executive director of Women, Work, & Calling, a national initiative of the Denver Institute for Faith & Work that equips Christian women to have a godly influence in public life. She also hosts the Institute's Faith & Work Podcast. Before joining the Institute, she worked in global telecom, nonprofit consulting, and campus ministry with Cru. She holds an MA in Social Entrepreneurship from Bakke Graduate University and graduated magna cum laude from the University of Colorado Boulder. She is the author of Women, Work, & Calling: Step into Your Place in God's World (InterVarsity Press, 2023). RESOURCES MENTIONED • Women, Work, & Calling: Step into Your Place in God's World by Joanna Meyer (InterVarsity Press) • Strong and Weak by Andy Crouch • Culture Making by Andy Crouch • The Work of Leaders (Jossey-Bass) • The MBA Oath • Denver Institute for Faith & Work: denverinstitute.org • Women, Work, & Calling: womenworkandcalling.com Send us Fan Mail CONNECT WITH US Subscribe to The UpWords Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts and visit slbf.org/studio to learn more about our work at the intersection of faith, the academy, and the marketplace. This episode was created by the SLBF STUDIO at Upper House. Produced by Daniel Johnson and Dave Conour Edited by Dave Conour
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What does it mean to follow Jesus not only in who you are, but in how you lead, serve, and work? On this episode of The UpWords Podcast, host Joy Fea sits down with guest Joanna Meyer, founder and executive director of Women, Work, & Calling at the Denver Institute for Faith & Work, to explore vocational discipleship: forming people for a whole-life "yes" to God that reaches into their daily work. Joanna traces her path from aspiring high school social studies teacher to twelve years ...
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- 0:00 Cold open and introduction
- 1:27 Welcome: how Joy met Joanna
- 2:24 Joanna's journey: from aspiring teacher to campus ministry
- 7:42 The Denver Institute and the faith and work movement
- 9:27 Celebrating "extraordinary ordinaries"
- 10:54 Influence flows from hearts renewed by Christ
- 14:34 The MBA Oath: faith and the moral use of influence
- 16:47 Identity: image bearers, stewards, and allies
- 19:14 Setting a generous table for women across convictions
- 21:21 Productivity, overwork, and "addiction to mission"
- 24:12 A mosaic in London: "Rest and give thanks"
- 25:01 Mid-episode break
- 25:32 Generous leadership and healthy partnerships
- 27:31 Participating in God's renewal of all things
- 31:13 Helping others flourish: on-ramps into the electrical trade
- 34:12 Hope for the next generation of women leaders
- 36:46 Women as agents of flourishing
- 40:34 A redemptive understanding of power
- 42:29 The mentor who called out potential
- 44:32 What Joanna hopes her legacy will be
- 45:24 Rapid round: books for emerging leaders
- 46:34 Staying rooted: silence, solitude, and breath prayer
- 48:20 Discerning God's calling
- 50:10 Farewell and closing reflection
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