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Okay, cut that. Fuck you. You never fuck with me. You never fuck with me.
You have to say, Hank, just before this, I never fuck with you. Hall of Fame week continues. Talking too fast there. Thank you, Hank.
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And football is back. Let's go. This is the last show that we're going to do for the entire year before there's an NFL football game, guys. Not only that, but there's football back because we now have training camp fights.
Training camp fights are back. The Giants all had like, it sounded like the palace in New York today. We never got video of it. But now we're getting all these reports of fights.
People, there was a player on the Panthers who got waved because he went headhunting in practice. Wait, wait, wait. But on the Giants fight, Daniel Jones was at the bottom of the pile. Yes.
Which, some people are saying that's awesome. Daniel Jones is a fighter. He's shown that he can be more than just a Brooks Brothers ride. But I actually think the other way around.
I say that I don't think that the New York Giants are tough enough if their quarterback is thinking that he's even able to swing on him. He might have just been caught under. I would imagine Daniel Jones just looking the other direction. And almost like a cartoon, it just ate him up.
So like one of the giant balls of dust that's running around. Right, the tumbleweed. And they got him on the blind side and then he fumbled. Side note, tumbleweed are actually very dangerous.
We hit a tumbleweed. Hank and I hit a tumbleweed when we were driving through New Mexico with the bus. And it was like, it was a fucking big ass. It's like a tree.
They're pretty big. But if you have a car, you just hit it. Yeah, but they're like, don't fuck your car up a little bit. Yeah, the armadillos.
Those are the ones you got to watch out for. All right, so yeah, football's back. It was awesome to see. We have some NBA, should we talk about NBA free agency?
Because the Bulls are back. What about Campbell? Yeah, Dan Campbell. Oh yeah, Dan Campbell, man, Campbell.
He's out of the entire ranks of every year. He's the most football guy to ever coach in the NFL, I think. He's starting to blur the line where he's no longer really a football guy. He's just kind of a football.
Yeah, so there was a couple quotes he had, but Kyle Menke tweeted out this morning that Dan Campbell is so fired up on the first day of pads that he just went straight into his story about fighting on the first day of pads when he was a rookie, all in his opening statement. That's not what I'm looking for. That was the point of the story. So he definitely just started talking, like his brain started reminiscing about getting in fights.
And then he had to do the dad thing of like, but do as I say, not as I do. Yeah, but also wink, wink, please do exactly what I did. And then he had some other comments that he made. Some of this stuff is getting blown a little bit out of proportion, where it's like, oh man, I can't believe that Dan Campbell says if he wants a physical football team.
Oh yeah, Dan Campbell likes coffee. Yeah, no duh. He said, I want to see these guys compete. I want to see these guys get to the point where it is an almost all out brawl, but there isn't one.
If you don't push it almost to that point, you really won't get where you need to get, in my opinion, in this league to be competitive at the highest level. I love it. All correct. Take it to the edge.
Take it to the edge. And he did have a great quote. He's so excited about the first day of pads. Now we find out who can deliver some punishment and who can take some punishment.
Ooh, we're going to find out. This is a year of how football guys will do in alpha football guys, I should say, in the NFL. Because Dan Campbell and Joe Judge, Joe Judge is dealing with it as well, because part of the Giants scrum or fight or melee, whatever you want to call it, they did laps, 100-yard laps, and then he didn't like how everyone did it, so then he made everyone do push-ups. And I feel like that's not going to go over well with a bunch of millionaire athletes.
They went over really well in Remember the Titans. They got everybody to buy in together. Yes, yes. Great movie.
We're going to say, hey, if you watched it for the first time in life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's referenced it a few times. For his first time.
Well, in conversation. Well, Hank asked me about it earlier. But it will be the same. Yeah, it will definitely happen the same.
It will happen the same. I don't know. I think that at some point, we're going to get a coach that just doesn't practice. We're going to get a coach eventually who's like, I'm going to get the fastest players and the guys that I think are the best on tape, and then we're just going to study and not ever go out and practice, and we'll see how that works.
That was in Todd Haley. Remember Todd Haley? He got mad at Hugh Jackson. He was like, oh, sometimes we have to let them practice.
Yep. And he's like, no, we want to save him. We want to save him. We want to save him.
That was a meeting of the minds. Hugh Jackson and Todd Haley talking football. And then Hugh Jackson being like, listen, we can do things your way, but I'm the head coach. So, listen, I went 0-16.
I think I know what I'm doing. Listen, when I get fired from this year's job, Mike Silver will write something nice about me, and he'll be the bad guy. Yep. So, we can do this the easy way or the hard way.
I don't want to be remembered in the annals of history. All right. Let's talk some free agency though. NBA.
The Bulls are back. They have gotten very aggressive. Caruso, Lonzo Ball, and now Jamarjo Rosen all in the Bulls next year. I'm actually legitimately excited.
Caruso is... Are you a little jealous that I get to root for Caruso? Not at all, because I think that by going to the Bulls, the value of his NFT on the Lakers goes up. They won't be making any more of those.
Good point. Good point. The Heat, the Heat culture, Kyle Lowry, and then Chris Paul got... You guys talk here, right?
Oh, yeah. P.J. Tucker as well. Then Chris Paul got like $120 million as a 37-year-old, so credit to him.
I think his career earnings are right above $400 million, not $440 million, as inaccurately reported by Darren Revelle. You know, yeah. Stephen Shea got on top of that. Yeah.
Absolutely. They spent all night just arguing online. That was a sight to be heard. But yeah.
Stephen Shea was right. Yeah, no, he was right. Hashtag Shea was right. Shea was absolutely right.
But I don't know. It's weird. Like, at the end of the day, the NBA obviously still comes down to, like, do you have one of the top five players in the league? But it is fun to see...
Like, I complained a lot about the Gar-Pak's situation, and now the new Bulls front office has basically burnt that to the ground as fast as possible, so they deserve a lot of credit. I also think that I'm going to have to maybe sneaky root for the Lakers a little bit next year. Uh-oh, Melo? Yeah, I'm rooting for Melo, and I'm also rooting for the takes to start flying, because when you have that many guys on the team, it's no longer LeBron James' team.
Correct. I think once they get to the playoffs, it's Melo time, baby. Yeah, Melo and Westbrook are going to be like, LeBron, sit back, we got this, bro. Andre Drummond, a recurring guest, great recurring guest, on the Sixers.
Do you hate him now, Hank? Yeah. What does Celtics say, anything? Nothing.
Celtics' priority of just reading this. Mark Murphy just tweeted this. According to a league source, it's to retain a salary structure that makes it possible to sign a major player when he comes available, most likely next summer. That's smart.
So this is literally, you know, a verbal meme is I'm Squidward, and everyone else is signing major players, and their teams are getting better, and the Celtics are just staying put, and maybe signing a set of times, which I'd be happy about, but when he was their star player, they got sucked in these conference finals, so it's not like, he's going to be the guy to take us to the championship. But I love him, he's great, you know, great player, he was awesome. But you guys almost had Westbrook, Melo, White Howard, who else did you almost have? Drummond.
I had a few years ago, I went to the Warriors. Yeah. Keep your head in there. Lonzo, I'm going to love to have Lonzo.
I love Lonzo, I'm fucking in the big ball. I've been a ball boy for years. It is crazy. I saw a few people be like, well, now you have to deal with LeVar Ball.
What? Wait, LeVar Ball's not even, he doesn't exist anymore. It disappeared. Yeah, something weird doesn't happen anymore.
There needs to be a serial on what happened to him, because I think that, like, when he got to L.A., I'm pretty sure that LeBron was like, if your dad starts talking, I'm going to trade you immediately. Yes, and I'll trade you anyway. No, I think he did that, like, high school basketball league, and it was, like, an absolute disaster. That's kind of where I was following, and then all of a sudden there was, like, reports of getting sued, or, like, things didn't go the way they were supposed to, and then he kind of disappeared from the line line.
Well, and also, like, Lonzo's, like, 23, 24, like, I think he has a family of his own. I think LeVar's out now. You know, he's in the sidelines. Another thing that I saw today was that, apparently, the 76ers are asking for a haul of picks that are similar to what the Nets dealt for, was it, it was KG and Paul Pierce?
Yeah. That's what they want for Ben Simmons. But no one's, he's going to be on the 76ers, no one's going to give him anything. Well, credit to Ben Simmons, he must listen to the show, because he actually has taken some pictures at the gym.
So, good for him. He had a shirt off, somewhat up a thirst trap, but he was at the gym, didn't see a video of him shooting a basketball, but it looked like he was going to shoot a basketball. Do you remember a couple years ago when he was, he was at a beach somewhere, and he had a fish on the end of a fishing pole? It's a bubble.
And he took it off, it's a bubble, yeah. Yeah, he took the fish off the end of the hook, and then tried to throw it in the ocean, and he missed the ocean. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that is expensive. Yeah, someone's got to make an offer at some point for him, right?
I mean, now the Bulls have a super team, so don't want him anymore, but I did at one point talk myself into him. Yeah, the Blazers might do it. The Bulls have a super team of just names that you recognize. That's just as good as anything else.
A start five of, like, I know all of these guys, that's good. If you can just remember all the names throughout the season. And Caruso, I'm fucking so pumped for that. Caruso's fans were really bummed out, which makes it a great signing.
Yeah, Caruso is awesome. Caruso's legitimately, I think, like, now a top five player in the East. And we'd legal in Illinois. Oh, is it?
Yeah. Well, that's good. So he's good. He's good.
Just don't go out of Texas. Actually, our good friend Tom Fornelli tweeted that at him, and he liked it. Yeah. He liked it on Twitter, being like, oh, sick.
Yeah, when I told him to switch to 3G, he smashed a leg on it. Yeah, that was your tweet. Hank. That was Hank's tweet.
Hank, do you have your college football preview? Almost ready? Yeah, Big Ten's coming out next week, I think. Okay, cool.
And then, as you see, there's a lot more things to factor in there, because of everything going on. You want me to tell us? I'll have a lot of conference right up. I don't know.
Okay, that's okay. All right, yeah. Just wondering. I can tell him.
I can double check. No, he follows me. Okay, yeah. I'm excited for your previews.
Hank. That's going to be sick. All right, anything else we got before we get to Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and then the interviews? And then Mount Rushmore.
And then Guys on Chicks. Oh, the Olympics are still going on. They are. Did you watch the 400-meter hurdles?
That was an awesome race. Mondo Duplantis, gold medal, pole vaulting. Prove me right. Yeah.
Okay. If you can do it, I can do it. Simone Biles, our queen. Bronze back.
Yep. Do you need to get a winner, bronze? Don't, Hank. Hank, don't.
I do not. She's our queen. She's our goat. I'm my goat.
Tied for most medals in U.S. gymnast history, which shouldn't count, because bronze shouldn't count. Michael Phelps has 23 golds and 27 medals total. You shouldn't be like, I'm better than Michael Phelps.
You've got 28 bronze. Agreed. But she's our queen. I've noticed that the track is extremely fast.
It's also been wet. It's been wet, but the wet almost makes it faster. I don't know what's going on, but the track and field, I think that they knew that they had to produce some world records in order to get some buzz going. Yes.
I might be really dumb for suggesting this, but if there's no crowd at all, does that mean that there's more oxygen for people to breathe on the track? Yeah, probably. This is like my theory about wind in empty NFL studios. Yeah, so they're sucking all the oxygen out normally, but when there's no fans there, it's a richer environment for especially distance runners who can breathe more efficiently.
What do we got for altitude in Tokyo? I think it's pretty low to the ground. I'm not sure. I'll appreciate it's C-level.
It's at C-level. 131 feet. That's pretty high. We're in Google.
Wait, 131? Yeah. No, prove me right. Right now, as in at the office.
I think we're on it. On the floor that we're on. Exactly. 55 feet?
33 versus 131. Wow, that's a big difference. Billy, I'm going to buy you Chick-fil-A after this, because I do think it's fucked up. I ordered it.
No, like right now, we're three stories up, and it's higher. Billy, I'm going to get you Chick-fil-A, because it's bullshit. Everyone knows you love Chick-fil-A. There's no big deal.
You were mad. You came in in warm-o. Yeah, you did. You saw that I had Chick-fil-A.
Yeah. Everybody knows that Billy is the second biggest Chick-fil-A fan in the office besides Big T. Chick-fil-A. All right, let's do Hot C-Cool Throne.
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Okay. You guys all know John, the Axeman. Yeah. Mr.
Ford. He is a pitcher on the Blue Jays that today was traded to the Brewers for one single dollar. What? A dollar?
So that's just so insulting. So insulting. Tough for the ego. You're a professional athlete, but you're being told that your value is a literal one dollar.
Wow. John Statsford. Damn. So yeah, that's tough.
I feel like if... I could probably just retire. Yeah. Make it a hundred dollars.
How do you negotiate that in offseason? Yeah. That's like the... I think it was Miles Plumlee, maybe one of the Plumleys, got traded, and he got traded with like the 40th pick for like the 60th pick.
That was brutal. So they're giving him up to go down. Yeah, right, right, right, right. That stuff.
And then my cool throne is Brendan Fraser. Oh. He's back? Got cast in Quentin Tarantino's new movie.
Hell yeah. Like Karen Marshall, they do their like fake Photoshop thing, and they're obviously big Brendan Fraser people. So... when I saw it on Instagram I was like this is a classic prank by Jeff D and Ken Jack and then I look it up on Deadline and it's true and Tribalance fuck yes we should have him on one last time he wasn't that bad he wasn't bad at all he's been gone forever yeah but before he leaves not yet Tribalance still has two weeks left off alright so we should get him on we're gonna do it we're gonna do it baby names baby names we know what we did with him yeah really we might have to run it back okay Ren Frazier's the greatest actor maybe ever so Kenny Nick Cage outstanding gentleman alright PFT your hot seat my hot seat is Jimmy Garoppolo the Zach Wilson throw yeah so he completed against a live defense and all the 49ers beat writers just immediately creamed themselves and then John Lynch went on Adam Schefter's podcast said that Jimmy is playing his best football since he's been here which sounds to me like a general manager pumping a guy up before they send him somewhere else maybe to a place like Indianapolis interesting oh yeah we should talk about that real quick not only is Carson Wentz going to get surgery but so is Quentin Nelson yeah it's a foot thing going on out there they're dealing with some severe foot injury issues in Indianapolis sorry Billy if we took your hot seat cool throne yeah I tend to agree with what you just said but yeah so even though a guy that like can very easily imagine killing his quarterback like we don't know who's going to be alive all facts and then my cool throne is Andrew Cuomo ah that was mine because right when the entire world thought that they had this guy dead to rights the old nipple rings Casanova of New York put out the greatest apology video of all time where it just showed him sexually harassing other people yeah he did everyone's like hey Andrew Cuomo stop touching everyone he's like look I touch everyone wait what yeah that was the point we know I also like that he threw and I've never seen this move you know people will always be like oh yeah that's like saying like you know the old oh I have a black friend yeah so you can't say it's not double jeopardy yeah pick one or the other you can also say that like in those pictures he was saying wait how are you going to say that I touch people against their consent I touch some of my best friends against their consent all the time yeah it's like yeah yeah thank you Mr.
Cuomo we get it how about the idea of like okay so they accuse you of something and your first thought is I know I have just just the ticket someone go find all the pictures because there's a lot of them of me touching people like that's so many pictures that he got yeah and it's just it was probably very easy I would imagine they were working till like 2 in the morning and Cuomo was like nope alright cut what a fucking weirdo he should have just gone with the Italian explanation just be like I'm Italian we touch everybody I'm sorry my nana taught me how to do this he actually kind of did that with his he actually did kind of say that another masterful piece of PR by the expert himself he started with his parents being like this is how my parents and I always like touched each other literally all I had to say was like this is how we do in the old country yeah what a fucking I mean you just put the evidence out there if you look back at his history too every single time that he does something bad he'll like legalize weed so he's just going to it's going to be the purge in New York City for the next 6 months just get everyone on yeah think about something else alright so that was my cool throne as well my hot seat is the US women's soccer team because they lost and we stink also didn't know because I just don't think about this stuff constantly didn't know that they were hated by some people on Twitter yeah because I tweeted about like oh we suck at soccer now and there were a lot of people who were like serves them right I'm like for what and then I guess I just missed a lot of this stuff yeah so people that spend a ton of time online have very strong opinions either the US women's national team is like the perfect embodiment of everything that is female in America or they are literally Satan and working to destroy I think I was joking because I joke about soccer here's my analysis is our women's team's golden generation is coming to an end and our men's team's golden generation has just begun I always love the golden generation discussion when it relates it's like one team at a time can have a golden generation Belgium had theirs they're still going they're still going a little bit they've really won a lot so I still think they were anointed golden generation France has one now Portugal was one that had a golden generation in the early 2000s they've won every international tournament ever so now it's our turn the USA's golden generation is just getting started hell yeah we are alright Jake your hot seat is cool throne hot seat is Twitter fleets they're gone good I use them occasionally and I haven't for like two months never used it use it one time the first time and then never use it again so dumb they still have like the fleets version on Instagram right now and they've got stories they still use those then they also have the fleets version on Facebook which is like Facebook stories but there's no bigger indication of free crime than if someone that you follow on Facebook is actively updating their Facebook stories and then cool throne is animals on the field be a cat on loose at Yankee Stadium everyone can rally together about an animal on the field everyone doesn't know what's happening in the game if it's a blowout it's close everyone's distracted from the Yankees being a COVID disaster too my hot seat is airplane travelers we had two viral videos recently one was just your standard airplane fight over a client seat the second one there was a guy who allegedly got really boozed up on the plane took his shirt off started going nuts assaulted two flight attendants and then ended up in the classic duct tape to the seat it was a pretty crazy video he was screaming like my parents had two million dollars that's not that's a lot of money but it's also not like I feel like if you're trying to get out of jail for free your parents have to have like 50 million I think that's that's fucking money on Frontier Airs but it's not fucking money if you're on Delta again it's a lot of money but it's also like that doesn't I don't think two million is where you go around nosing your thumb it's not even your money it's your parents money right so also it's important to note that they arrested the guy after they landed and then they suspended the flight attendants that duct taped him which I hope it's with pay because that would be the best reward of your life if you worked for Frontier Airlines as a flight attendant and they told you to stay home for two months while they still paid you that would be I hope that's what they're doing to reward because that kid deserves to get duct tape and your cool throne my cool throne was US soccer winning the concaf cup but my second cool throne is the plague turns out there's a bunch of chipmunks around Lake Tahoe that all have the plague shot down parts of the lake that's bad that's not good so what is the plague it is actually a parasitical infection that goes from fleas to rodents to humans at some point source of the black death yeah so the rats and rodents that got blamed for the black death probably got the worst deal of all time because they weren't the ones that were responsible it was fleas that were on a bunch of other stuff everyone thought it was rats so you just need to get the rats anti-flea stuff dude I saw a rat that was dead on the sidewalk that was like it looked like he had just gotten concussed and he was just dead speaking of dead animals should we talk about Larry not dead he was not dead that was a scary moment yeah Frank just killed Larry for about two minutes he just said rest in peace Larry the goldfish Hulk a caniac alright let's get to Calvin Johnson Hall of Famer before we get to Calvin Johnson I want to talk to you about our great friends get the bank more money than you need to our friends at Cross Country Mortgage make it super simple to figure out how much you can save on a monthly basis and over the lifetime of your loan 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when you're not going to do it I had no idea it was coming we knew at some point I'd get in there but to give you the first ballot it's hell of a honor yeah I mean you had an amazing career some people myself included would say that you're I think you're the best wide receiver to ever play the game have you thought about that have you taken the time to think about what you were able to accomplish in the years that you were playing and kind of figure out for yourself how that stacks up against everybody else I appreciate it I can say like when I came in I was going to kind of take some of the best attributes of the guys that I watched before me play and just put it all in one package that's really all I wanted to do and just make it all around a complete receiver and feel like I'll be able to accomplish that so as one of the greatest receivers of all time I have to ask you do you know what it catches? you would think not right? I mean goodness gracious I feel like I've had like real things that's happened over my career I thought it was kind of messed up that they called it the Calvin Johnson rule after the fact because they ended up changing the rule that would have made that catch a touchdown and then if anything if they call something the Calvin Johnson rule it should be kind of like the other way around but now they just name it after you and everybody else gets that touchdown but your very obvious reception in the end zone still didn't count so your speech coming up on Saturday night or might be Sunday you know you only have 8 minutes David Baker told us you're playing people off this year do you have your speech down you're ready to roll yeah I'm good to go I came up the first time I did it was like 10 minutes and I had to put 2 minutes off of you it's tough to squeeze all your football life into 8 minutes it's going to be tough I'm going to leave people out but I'm going to do the best I can so your entire football life what would you say was like the year that you realized oh this is something I'm going to be really really good at oh you're talking about going back to maybe college you know when I'm in high school you're still learning you don't know when you go to college you don't know what's out in front of you but when I got thrown in the fire literally threw me in the fire on my first day I was training in the camp at Georgia Tech and I don't think it was the first day but that second game I played against Winston I had like three tugs big game 100 and something yards it's a nationally televised show I knew at that point I'm like okay we got some potential here yeah that's got to be a pretty sick feeling you're like okay this is a little different I can do this now your speech obviously I mean are you going to mention the Lions I don't know there's people in the organization you're going to thank I'd assume but it's a little bit of a touchy subject how are you going to navigate that portion of the speech I was talking to Brad about here in Detroit a little while ago I told my mom when I was a kid if you ain't got nothing good to say don't say a lot I'm going to stick by that and I will I've definitely got some teammates and coaches so much respect for that I played with in Detroit so I look forward to at the end of the day just really you know trying to you know thank all those people in eight minutes okay so speaking of your teammates will you be thanking our good friend Tony Scheffler because I think you should Tony man cool cat one of the cool girls we play with one of the most interesting cats to play with Rick Hyden as well if you talk to him I say hello okay all right but you got to thank him I need you to thank him on your speech throw him in there there's got to be a portion of your speech where you can toss a name in there yeah okay all right perfect thank you that's all I ask have you when you were posing for the bus that they were making were you trying to do like a certain particular face were you conscious of the fact that the way that my face is right now is going to be frozen in time forever inside that hallway yeah man Ben Hammond was my guy that was sculpting me let me show you right here I got a little nice little picture when he was at the house here oh nice you got sculpted yeah he actually came to the house and sculpted me and yeah I was very concerned because I was like dang like what's my face going to look I don't want to be too serious I don't want to be just so now I just want to be about focused you know focused look so we'll see how it looks when it comes out but last time I saw it it actually looked pretty dang good is it like I don't really know I don't know how you put it into words but we'll never be in a spot where it's like you know something like this like a hall of fame of a major sport of anything to this level has it hit you yet that like you will for lack of a better term like live on forever like you are people will go to Canton they'll walk through I've been there you know you see the bus and there's Calvin Johnson like has that have you been able to like grasp that mentally you know I've been to Canton one time it's a post-war stuff like you know 2010 or something like that when we were playing like Cleveland and I remember sitting there thinking man this gotta be a hell of a feeling just to walk through here like you know hair raising just to see just to see you know your statue sitting amongst all the greats that you that you watched before you man I think that after the day after when I go back through there after it's all said done and it's up there you know I'll probably overcome with emotion honestly like kind of like when David Beggers should knock on my door that day yeah yeah this is gonna be a tough question I'm gonna warn you before I ask it that you might not I'll let you feel how you want to answer it in the moment but it's a doozy if I come to your door right now and I have a check for $40 million in my hand I say Calvin I'd like you to play for the Kansas City Chiefs for one season $40 million guaranteed what am I playing DB coach let me know what you're gonna do I'll coach whatever I'll do it all you're gonna be playing you'll play X receiver okay $40 million do you do it that's easy man I'm out of retirement they paying $40 million for a year too nah man and fun I mean sure that's a hell of an offer I mean hell play with a Super Bowl champ heck yeah that's cool but I don't think my body would agree with me though at what point though were you like alright I'm officially officially because you retired a little early you know Barry Sanders was the same way where you still had something left I would assume so like a year or two after if someone had called you would have been like okay I could probably do this at what point were you like alright I'm officially retired I probably can't do this like just enough time has passed nah I would have to say I mean it wasn't long after I finished playing I knew I was done before I was done you know that last year I played I didn't really want to be out there half the time my body was just hurting so much it just wasn't fun to be out there so but after I got done playing like I was gonna say the same thing about my camps and stuff like that during all season and all season but just like my foundation camps like I'm literally out there showing these kids how to do it real and the next morning after that I played a full out football game and that's just because I don't have anything more elasticity in my ankles and stuff like that so any little impact you know it's just inflammation right off the stack and stuff like that so you know like I say the pain that comes with that those things just you can't get to your regular routine you can't do your regular practice routine you know I don't have anything more it's just quality of life is suffering at that point because you walk around in pain every day just this is not fun so that's why the change came yeah so that's definitely a great answer and an answer i don't think most fans realize because i definitely like calvin johnson go out and get 200 yards like on the first week of the nfl i mean we think like that yeah there's nothing that you can say to me that would actually change my mind yeah yeah it was nice about pain and everything but come on you're super i understand why it's physically not possible but once i see you wearing the uniform and you got like the visor i was like okay he's gonna get 215 today that's calvin johnson yeah so so uh real quick let's talk about your your uh company primitive which you're wearing right now so you spoke openly after your retirement that you know you use cannabis to help with the pain a lot of people are becoming a lot more enlightened to that these days michigan obviously so what are you doing with your company that's helping like you know athletes or people in general with uh you know cannabis use and also just trying to recover from injuries yeah i mean we form from the home and start with the name primate it's the original medicine it's the most primitive form that i mean there's other plant medicines out there but you know just take it for that you know it's the early form of medicine that you know obviously the last couple of years you haven't been able to use because of no restrictions what or what not put in place but we're here to literally lift the signal off of this thing to ensure the healing powers of the plant you know that's what gets taken away from when you hear about cannabis or marijuana or just weed you know we're trying to elevate everything about the plant from the professionalism in the industry and how we do like i say about highlighting the powers of the plant and being innovative in the industry you know obviously yes we want to grow great camp grow good camp but we want to create innovative products new things that bring people to the table but okay i'm able to see the power of this and this ain't just you know smoking weed you want to have smoke weed and have fun but at the same time you know we want to find a way to help people follow your life yeah that's awesome yeah i like that i think it's about time that people come around and realize that there's you know there are healthier ways of dealing with pain than taking opiates or taking certain prescriptions if you can just if you can manage it using things like cannabis it's way safer i don't think that in the history of modern civilization there's been an overdose on cannabis you can correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure that like the worst that happens is you just fall asleep for a long time and you get a little bit confused that's about it i actually have a friend that's a state trooper in georgia so over 30 years all my years i've never seen anybody really getting anything any kind of big bad trouble asking anything like that from cannabis all prescription pills and all yeah yeah and what's been going on the last you know 25 30 years in america with prescription pills has been very tough to watch so i feel like anything that can get somebody uh off of that type of medication and using something that's more manageable so that you can do you know realistically for a longer period of time i think it's a really great cause so that's cool that you're doing that i mean speaking of opioids here i mean it was it was easy to get access all that stuff that's why i had a hard stance probably happened in my career you know 11 12 somewhere in there where they really was like okay we got to stop the access that our guys have to all these opioids because by that time it had been a pandemic uh in the whole united states and i mean obviously i saw that and you know my whole thing going through league was trying to have a holistic way of being yeah things derived in the earth you know going to my body yeah it's derived in the earth yeah i've always wondered about that with the uh the turtle shots that you hear about and you can get a certain amount of those per year um what does that feel like if you get a pain blocking shot like that does it feel actively you feel better overall or is it just like you're playing that game you feel great like sharp pain as you're getting every time you know you took that jab or that breakdown you know you know it kind of you know you go off over that when you take the sword off so you get to get the push through the pain and be able to play but yeah over time taking that stuff too much you have to go for your system i think it's a real bad for you kidding me yeah um can we talk real quick about matt stafford so he is everyone's favorite story this offseason it's the idea that sean mcbay is going to unleash matt stafford he's playing for the rams uh in your mind like is matt stafford hall of fame caliber you're you are a hall of fame yourself you played with him i've always said that his numbers will be there do you think that at the end of his career he'll have a a decent you know chance or case to make it to camp you know it all depends how much longer matthew has a chance to play and if he gets that ring you know if you go out there and you know vice it up and has consecutive and talking about like three four or five consecutive winning seasons even if you don't want to go out if you have a chance to do that like i've seen i mean i got three broken fingers you know to say that but he um the accuracy i've seen that this guy displayed obviously he has a gun everybody knows that i think that him being somewhere where he wants to be out there in cali he spent a lot of time out there in his all season he's where he want to be at so i think his play is going to reflect that hopefully so once he stays healthy i get a guy shot yeah and he's a tough guy like i remember that clip that game when he dislocated his shoulder i think and came back separated yeah separated his shoulder and came back in and had a touchdown um yeah he's a tough tough player i noticed i noticed you called him matthew does that would he be upset if you heard us calling him at you know what i forget i think um back in the day i don't know way back you know like i don't know matthew's like being called matt i'm like really i've been calling matters i don't know he didn't say nothing about me sorry whatever your name is matthew's i'm calling my name i think if i'm staff really i really don't understand me i'm gonna say staff yeah was there um is there like a noticeable difference between uh catching a ball from matt stafford and catching a ball from any of the other guys that you played with 100 100 100 obviously the accuracy but i mean he's gonna put it on your chest matthew's gonna hit you with it and you know obviously nobody else had to kind of philosophy that matthew grew with and i told matthew i tell him to like to relax because you see him if you see him in practice he's standing always stands on his right fist just clenched like like it's hard you can like that's why you don't damn ball so hard you never lash your hands so if you ever see him in la and you'll get from the spot with his hands with his fist ball yeah do you think um playing your entire career with the lions do you think the refs have it out for the lions man i've been talking about that i'm sitting here like hey the call just didn't make anything nothing happened there i don't know how many times i've said that but i don't know i don't want to say that and it's gonna be wrong but i mean everybody felt like that yeah i mean there's some very famous moments there's some prime time games with like with that would you guys say that locker room like what the fuck is going on why you know one of the worst calls one of the worst calls we played against the texans and the running back was doing what's his name uh i forget but he ran he literally fell on his like butt got up and ran to the end zone he kept running everybody on our team might play so you feel now and the referees uh they said we couldn't review the play and that it stood as a touchdown even though they were wrong and lost the game because of on basically them so yeah yeah they got it out for us sometimes it wasn't just bad calls it was you were also like victims of the most obscure parts of the rule book constantly you know like you know what's the rules that you never hear about growing up playing football but somehow like it's like the refs go they check in the hood then they flip to the very back of the rule book put their glasses on they're like here this one right here this is what they did wrong on this one yeah exactly exactly they're using as a test case scenario for a lot of them yeah i mean yeah i think it is there are definitely moments where you're like i think the lions might be sneaky cursed here because there's some things that happen you're like this makes no sense whatsoever yeah everybody's a worker there's definitely some bad energy i guess there to put it like we're not gonna say anything that you don't yeah you don't be nice nice yeah we're gonna all be nice uh i was looking back over your career stats i you had 329 yards in a game what the hell 329 yards like at that point where you did you feel like football was easy to you you know what man when matthew and matthew and i are on the same page man we could feel it yeah it got easy you know because we know what we're gonna do we practice it all week and i said we practice man we practice like crazy like we're running miles a day but we're at the same time good and muscle members so that when you get game time everything's transferable anything you don't practice will happen in the game field so i mean yes after the first 250 yards did you expect hey maybe they'll start double teaming me like they're gonna stop me i can't possibly keep going i knew we knew going to that game that brandon car is real physical we knew we're gonna play some one-on-one so we might have a chance to get off but after that first slam that took like to the other side of the field man i knew we were going 200 at that point but everybody thought it would have been three yeah i'm watching this play right now it's actually titled worst call in nfl thanksgiving history it's a really bad call i forgot about it yes his elbow and his knee were down and they weren't able to review it and he just stood up and ran like 70 yards for the touchdown by the referees just did the right thing just like hey we screwed up this is the call like nobody would have been like okay yeah you're right yeah yeah that was insane how did you manage that uh like figuring out when you're gonna eat on thanksgiving i'm always curious when i see the players i'm always stuck in my face i'm usually three glasses of finger grigio deep by that point but how do you just not eat thanksgiving on thanksgiving you know yeah i can't do like you just don't know man like that game that clock like in the fourth quarter you know you're like boy i can't wait to get home get some of that dressing get some of that fried turkey boy you don't know some greens i look forward to yeah um so one of your coaches jim caldwell uh did he ever like smile or even break character because we got you know i thought there was a press conference once where he basically had to like put to bed the rumors that he was dead um and i just like his face it's something about it it just was always the same no matter what did you guys ever say like hey man just because everyone who played for him loves him and he seems like a really nice guy but he really just had no facial expressions whatsoever that's so funny because we i see it differently we really have a little leadership council we met with him and you know guys didn't laugh and stuff so that's so funny because i guess it's just different perspectives you know i'm like i'm used to seeing him laugh and kiki you know he was a man that never cursed no i'm trying to think like i ever hear him curse like i don't know if i've heard him say like like shit one time but i don't he was not man that curse so but on the sideline on game i know that they should talk about a picture right now yeah he's a high character guy man and he had all this playing as if like you know he's a politics you know kind of guilt that you get from your dad you know when you do something wrong you know it's easy for him to you know leave that kind of guilt on just by looking at you like a little shake of the head like you know that's all you need to say okay i gotta be good yeah this is yeah this is the difference between playing the nfl and just watching the nfl because that's all we think about he's like hey is jim caldwell alive like no standing there but what's going on like does he have a pulse but obviously you know him a lot better that's hilarious yeah i had a lot of time thinking about that too much time thinking you had another great coach yeah another coach uh jim schwartz who this is like all-time fiery guy he always seemed like he wanted to like the exact opposite personality like he always wanted to fight if not the other team then like some of the guys on your own team at any given time did you you ever butt heads with him no i didn't really jump too much man because i'm always i'm always on my business doing what i gotta do so we didn't have any problems but it was hilarious to watch him like when he get pissed off because he was a firecracker like he would go all in he would dig he would chew you out he'll chew a wrap out the other team on game day yeah he's fired up like he's ready to whoop somebody but like okay i'm gonna put him in the past night he might run into somebody fall down but he'll give it a good effort what happened after the famous harbaugh incident what happened in the locker room you guys like hey coach what what happened out there dude like you you good what happened that game i remember yeah after the game like a little like shuffle yeah they were kind of chest bumping each other yeah yeah a little something yeah a little extra juice like i think harbaugh slapped him on the back a little bit and then schwartz slapped him back shout out bobby lane it's okay it's okay i know it seems like harbaugh get a little petty too sometimes somebody has something going there it's pretty funny yeah the other thing that schwartz had which uh again this is going to sound weird to you because you played the game we just watched the game but uh whenever he got really excited he he had very perky nipples through his shirt he really did yeah no he he was he was nipping out all the time i don't know it wasn't so it wasn't just the nipples he had like very very triangular so i'm reading up about the thanksgiving day missed call and the reason that they took that or the touchdown on the board is because jim schwartz he got too excited in the moment he threw the challenge flag scoring plays are always reviewed automatically there was a rule in place that if a coach throws a challenge flag on a play that's going to be reviewed anyways they're not allowed to challenge it which is a rule that makes absolutely no sense at all but i think the lions were the only ones that ever got victimized by it i'm sorry that's a rule man i didn't even know that okay that was actually i remember now he did the flag but you said because he threw the flag and it was a reviewable play to kind of cancel it out so you can't do that makes no sense yeah it makes no sense oh my goodness so pfc obviously talked about the game you had over 300 what was what was in your mind the game that you were like no one your perfect game the game that no one could touch you and you were just in the zone when we played in oakland um i didn't have a lot of one-on-one battles but i had to go in here and play open 2011 maybe uh this was our playoff spot started slow but we ended up coming back to win the game just staying in the playoff point i had like 200 yards and a game touchdown so that's probably my favorite it's always it's always fun to do away it's always even more fun doing it at home just have a big game away to show the crowd that's my favorite thing yeah i'm looking at right now so you had nine catches 214 yards two touchdowns and a 51 yard touchdown reception yeah yeah was there any quarterback that you matched up against and you were like this guy all right this guy gives me the most trouble i need two guys um my first time in the league nobody like playing out here since we played twice a year roy williams at the time he always hated playing out i didn't know about out until i heard we're talking about him before we played him it was like man all he does is put his hands in the face the referee doesn't get away with it yeah yeah and lo and behold i'm thinking i'm like okay well i gotta worry about that you're the number one receiver you guys have i got the taste of like okay this is how it is this is the battle i gotta do at the line of scrimmage this is this is how i gotta um you know tell myself this is what i gotta play against on the weekly basis or you know twice a year i gotta this is this is this is this he was the you know the one that you know i modeled my game after but as far as the aggressiveness i came with you know to fight at the line of scrimmage it was all tailored after playing out against i knew you know the fighting mass that i had to come with and after that i said pat peterson he's the best athlete i've seen over there as a quarterback hands down interesting um all right i have one last question uh roback question use code pft on roback.com for 20 off your first purchase r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com code pft they make the best performance polos and the only performance polos we wear and for our guest today we'd like to give you a road back performance q-zip on us you posted a picture of you and uh barry sanders just having a talk it's his words of wisdom that i'll never take for granted when you and barry sanders get together do you guys just like sigh do you just like oh man like lions yeah man i mean it comes up i mean me and barry spend a whole lot of time together but whenever we are together you know it's just we don't even talk about lines but we're at a mortgage that's what we're at it it came up but at the end of the day you know two two of the best you know getting a ticket man i got me a picture of that it's all the valuable valuable moments yeah absolutely he's got a great laugh too whenever barry starts laughing everybody else in the room yes i had to tell barry like you gotta smile about this bro like you don't be smiling all the time he never smiles i did a whole i remember i did a whole blog about it like five years ago i was like what's up with barry sanders he doesn't smile in any pictures i think you should slip him some primitive like a couple yeah he's smiling yeah oh man all right well calvin this has been awesome good luck with your speech remember tony scheffler just throw that in there just slip it in there there's gotta be like there's gotta be a portion of your speech where you just start listing off names i do get tony scheffler in there you know he's a good teammate he was great i love tony man he was so cool all right uh well thank you so much calvin really really appreciate it no problem good time all right see you good luck man thank you thank you that interview was brought to you by your great friends over at noom a lot of times you can face pressure pressure on yourself you have to fit other people's expectations you can be dealing with some issues that are making it harder for you to get into the shape that you want to be in a lot of times if you tried new diets crash a lot of times you try new diets you feel like you're not in a good place mentally as you're going through the diet itself and then after the diet's over you put on all the 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