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Sep 23, 2026 31 min

Can Republicans Shock the World?

from The Sean Hannity Show Hosted by Sean Hannity

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich joins Sean to assess what Republicans must do in the final 42 days before the midterm elections, including the need for message discipline, a strong economic argument, and a clear contrast with Democratic policies. Jessica Tarlov later joins the conversation for the opposing perspective as they debate the DSA, affordability, campaign fundraising, battleground Senate races, and whether Republicans can overcome the traditional challenges of a midterm election.

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey, it's Drew Franklin from NFL Cover Zero. The 2026 season is underway and we are loving football on TV. Here's what you can expect from the podcast in our second season. I would suggest for these preseason games, I think they should do what they do on the NFL draft. You know, when coverage of the NFL draft is basically for moms and they're just like, hey, he has a dog named Spark. Listen to NFL Cover Zero on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Joining us now, former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich. Remember, he has put out a series of five podcasts, how Republicans can shock the world in just 42 short days. And Mr. Speaker, we're bringing you on every week. Are you still where you were? Well, I think it's possible to win, but I think it's gotten harder because I think that the...

kind of disciplined approach I suggest in my five podcasts have not exactly been followed by the president, who I think is all over the place. But on the other hand, the Democrats continue to give us gift after gift. They are so far to the left. They are so strange in their values. They're so clearly anti-American that what's happening is many Americans who are not happy with, say, the price of gasoline, then think about, but do you really want a future where Chuck Schumer's in charge or where you have a bunch of radical weirdos in charge?

And then they come back to us. And so I think this is still very much up in the air. I think we still have a chance to keep the House and the Senate. But it's going to be a real fight. And we have to win the argument that the future they represent is dramatically worse than whatever is irritating people. Why do you say it's gotten harder? Because that's not what you were saying last week. Because I think in the last week, we have not seen any kind of disciplined effort by the president to communicate where we're going or what we're doing. And we have not seen the kind of changes.

That would lead people to feel better and more secure about the price of living. The potential to win on these things is huge. Every time a Democrat says they are for Medicare for all, we should communicate. That means they're for healthcare to no one. Because a government-run national system, which is what they're describing.

would be unbelievably bad, would leave, if you look at the British version, would leave millions of people without adequate care, would cost an enormous amount of money, the largest tax increase in history, and in the end, would be a disaster. But we have to be prepared to go right at them and make that kind of a case. And I don't sense that we're making as much of a principled case as much as there's sort of a series of cheap shot campaigns that go after individual Democrats on their particular values. I also think, frankly, to be candid, I don't think it helps our case that left-wing big government socialists with weird values are unacceptable when the president goes and says nice things about Mondami. Mondami's not going to be a great mayor. The president ought to be very clear about that. Mondami's a disaster. His policies are going to bankrupt New York City. And, you know, that kind of thing just totally confuses our base. Yeah, well, I'm telling you right now, it is, it just, I kind of understand that. I think Donald Trump's being Donald Trump by doing that. I'm going to play in the next hour his speech before the UN, because I don't think most people saw it today. If he goes on the campaign trail.

and stays that on message and that discipline, as he was today at the UN, I think that goes a long way to showing people, number one, all that he's accomplished that nobody ever talks about, and also, you know, why the world needs strength at this particular moment in history. What did you think? Well, look, I agree with you. If he could slow down and actually stay on the same message for five or six weeks, he can move the whole country. I just did a piece for Gingrich 360 on the Greenland Agreement, which is, you know, Donald Trump just brought under American supervision more land.

than the entire Louisiana purchase that Thomas Jefferson made. Think about that. The largest single increase of American ability to control things was just signed by Donald Trump. No war, no payments. He negotiated an agreement with both Denmark and Greenland. It's an enormous historic achievement. You can go through place by place, but then you look at them. Again, I'm being really candid, maybe I'm too candid for radio, but you're an old friend.

we shouldn't be cutting any kind of a deal with the Houthis. We should annihilate them. We should be totally on the side of the Saudis. Should he be annihilating them now? Should we be getting in deeper now, or should we wait until after the election? No, now. I'm doing a piece for the New York Sun arguing for a victory strategy in Iran, and it starts with a very simple premise, which again, you get this, he's willing to meet with the president of Iran. Well, let me tell you something. The guy has now been, since 1979, chanting death to America. I don't think we ought to meet with him.

And if he's also been killing Americans and methodically trying to build a nuclear weapon, I don't think we ought to meet with him. I think we ought to recognize this is a mortal enemy who will destroy the United States if he gets a chance. Now, but again, I'm a hardliner. I grew up in the shadow of World War II where unconditional surrender was our position. And I grew up in the Cold War where we understood the Soviet Union was our enemy and we were going to methodically contain them until we defeated them. And I think our national establishment is so totally confused about reality that we need to get our head locked down and understand.

There is no deal with the Iranian dictatorship that will work. None. And therefore, sooner or later, we have to replace the dictatorship if we want to live in a world where American cities are not a danger. Well, I think, look, I think the agenda is clear. I think the choice part of the election is clear. You know, I'm not sure people are really embracing the fact that the Atlanta Fed just predicted growth at 5.1 percent for the third quarter. That is massive. More than twice any quarter that Joe Biden had or that the census data pointed out Hispanic black poverty now at an all time low or incomes for the lowest 25 percent.

you know, rose to the highest level ever, or median income rose to 87,600, or, you know, people's, you know, 80 records of the stock market, the borders are closed, the largest tax cuts in history, the need to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Yeah, short-term, you know, downside has been higher gas prices, but it's still not impacting the economy the way the media would have you believe. These are not stories the legacy media, Mr. Speaker, will ever tell people. Right. So we ought to have five straight days of Donald Trump explaining the economy, and then we ought to have five straight days of Donald Trump explaining that he's not going to give up an American city to an Iranian nuclear weapon.

And then we're going to have five straight days of Latino and African-American leaders who are grateful and excited about the fact that things actually are literally better than they have ever been. But you can't expect our opponents in the elite media, and let's be clear, they are our opponents. They're against us. They want to defeat us. So you can't expect them to do any of this. And that's why you need, I think, to have the White House have a much more disciplined and a much more...

solution-oriented series of communications. And frankly, getting off on junk, how you're going to name Lake Ontario, stuff like that is a total distraction and actually weakens the president and weakens the Republican Party. I don't think it helps to be fighting the media now. He can do whatever he wants in 43 days. But did you see the speech at the UN today? If he if he brings that level of discipline on the road with him, I think it would pay pay huge dividends. And look, there's a couple of advantages we have. We have a money advantage, which is never the case with Republicans. We have another advantage. These are uncharted waters because the left is insane and crazy. And, you know, the DSA policy is what it is. And that is now the intellectual base of this new Democratic radicalized party. I think running against that gives them an opportunity.

But it doesn't mean it's a slam dunk. So are you telling the president the things you're telling me? Well, I'm trying to. I'm trying to get across that this is the way we have to operate. And as you well know, because you know him better than I do, he often listens. He doesn't necessarily obey. But look, the bigger question for the American people is simple. You have a series of Democratic candidates who are deeply anti-American. You have a series of Democratic candidates whose values are so radical that they would create a country you would not recognize. And you have a series of Democratic candidates whose solutions would bankrupt the country and would destroy everything which has made America successful. Now, if we can't take those facts.

and then compare them to the extraordinary achievements. The Trump administration has lowered the price of pharmaceuticals, I think, for the first time in modern times, as an example. And the whole series of these kind of breakthroughs, where you're seeing us approach affordability in a very direct way to make it possible for people to have more spending money and to have lower costs. And at the same time, you're seeing a number of very creative steps, such as the program to give every young person a savings account to get them into a free market capitalist society, literally from birth. And you're seeing some very successful people like Michael Dell get involved with his personal money, writing a check and at no cost of the taxpayer and helping hundreds of thousands of young people have a better future. So there is a huge positive story to tell. There is a huge negative story to tell. But because the elite media will never help us and will always oppose us, those stories have to be told by the Trump White House and by Republican candidates with kind of almost a mind-numbing, constant repetition. You break through a constant repetitive reminder.

Well, I think that that is the message, and that's also the lesson that we learned, you know, from you back in, you know, 2014. I mean, that was the big lesson that we learned. And I think that, you know, if you run a positive campaign, you can shock the world. I don't know. I just hear more pessimism in your voice. I don't like it, but I take everything you say seriously because I've watched you operate all these years, and, you know, I know. I'm not pessimistic. I'm frustrated. If the president wants to, he can be the most effective communicator in modern times. He can focus. He can steal your point about his speech today. He can stay disciplined, stay on message, and if he does.

He is going to dramatically change the outcome almost within a week of starting to do it. But he has to decide that he is willing to stay disciplined and to stay focused. And I see no evidence yet that he's willing to do that. I mean, I'm probably being too honest and open saying all this stuff publicly. Well, what's the good of not being honest and open? I mean, when have you ever had a filter in your life? Let's be blunt here. Sometimes I'm a little cautious about getting the president too mad at me. I don't mind sharing a strategy. In 2016, you would tell the president things privately twice. And if he didn't listen the two times you told him privately, you'd just say it publicly on my shows. And then he'd hear it again. You might relate that to where we are right now.

All right. So so in other words, you've already told him twice privately and now you're telling it publicly. I got it. Look, at the end of the day, he does have this incredible, unique ability to rise to the occasion. And it's just when he decides to do it. Like I thought he had a great convention in Dallas. I did. Do I wish it was less jokes, more seriousness, more on message? Yeah. But it wasn't damaging in the sense that it was Trump being Trump.

Well, I thought you and I were both there together. I thought that absolutely for the hardcore, it was really important. And I hope we'll start a pattern of doing it every four years. Because I think it's great to communicate to the country. There really are two teams. You're not just voting for individuals, but you're voting for which team do you want to have lead America? And I think when people across the country think about how really bad and anti-American and weird the big government socialists are, I think that whether you are somebody who's trying to pretend like the Democratic candidate in North Carolina.

or like Ossoff in Georgia, you know, they're pretending. But the truth is, they're all weird, left-wing, big-government socialists, and you know it because on the opening day, they're going to give power to people whose values are not Georgia, they're not North Carolina. The truth is, they're not almost anywhere in the country. I think you're right, and they will give in to the real power structure of the Democratic Party. Mr. Speaker, appreciate you being with us. Thank you, sir. Keeping the truth alive.

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Football's back. Hey, it's Drew Franklin from NFL Cover Zero. Enjoy the NFL season while listening to NFL Cover Zero. We have storylines, predictions, and lots of silliness. Here's what you can expect from the podcast in our second season. When you meet people and you say your job's a sports announcer, it's always interesting to see what the first thing they say is. I did have one of the more difficult questions, though. He sits next to me and he sees I'm on my computer and he goes, big sports fan. And I was like, yeah, actually. And he goes, what do you think about my Jaguars this year? I realized, like, no one's ever asked me that question ever about anything. And I was like...

Listen to NFL Cover Zero on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, ever since our next guest started at the Fox News Channel, co-host of the number one hit show, The Five, author of a brand new book, I Disagree, Winning Arguments Without Losing Friends. I can say that the title is perfect because we have remained friends our entire time together at the Fox News Channel. And although I'm not sure why Katie Couric, why'd you go to Katie Couric, Jessica Tarlov, to get a blurb? I didn't know you were friends with Katie Couric. I'm friends with everybody. That is the point of the book, Sean. Well, we've always gotten along extraordinarily well. And I used to do this segment.

with Jesse Waters and with Jessica on my show. And it was actually a really fun segment. I think in all the time you guys debated, though, I think you won maybe once, maybe twice, because I'd pick the winner at the end of the debate. Yeah, I think that was more about you than the actual content of the debate. But it was so fun and a great way to spend time with you and get to know Jesse better. And I read about it in the book, too. A very formative experience for me at Fox and showing me how important it is to talk to people who you disagree with. Well, we kind of got along and hit it off from the very beginning. And we have really passionate disagreements on issues.

I mean, you are the outspoken liberal voice on The Five, which is a hit show. And there are days, it seems like, and I've known you a long time, it seems like you can get frustrated. Is that my observation correct? Yeah, no, of course. I mean, Jesse and Greg Uthold are very frustrating. Maybe not. They're very frustrating. Yes, Sean. They drive me up a wall. However, it works. The show is a huge hit. So, you know, you can't argue with success, Jessica. I know. And I wouldn't want to. It's great that people love it. And we have a really diverse audience for the five. We've got 20 percent Democrats, 30 percent independents and then 50 percent Republicans. And that's everything from, you know, MAGA to Romney Republicans. So it's a real microcosm of America, which is fabulous.

And it's a great opportunity for me to be able to pass my ideas out and play around also with the other co-hosts and make political conversations more digestible and, frankly, enjoyable for people. Because, you know, it's so ugly and tough. And you talk about this on your show all the time, that politics didn't used to be this way and it doesn't have to be this way either. Well, look, I personally think that, you know, I wish we could disagree without being so disagreeable, but it's kind of hard in this environment. And this is maybe where we get a little more serious in our discussion.

I talk often about the radicalization of your party. Now, when I met you, I met you through Doug Schoen, who is a more moderate Democrat. Doug Schoen's been on this radio program. He cannot support a guy like Abdul El-Sayed. He didn't support a guy like Graham Plattner. He doesn't support a guy like James Telefrico. You know, six-gender, God is non-binary, Telefrico. Do you like my nickname for him? Pretty clever. I love it. Yeah, I'll be getting some flag with that on it, for sure. Well, I mean, so, but the point is, I never saw you as that radical, a Democrat. Doug definitely is not, but if you move more to the left, are you a Mamdani supporter? Do you like...

Do you like AOC? Do you like the squad? Do you like Pocahontas? Do you like Grandpa Bernie and in the real power structure now that runs the Democratic Party? Are you on that that wing of the party?

No, I'm in the center-left moderate wing of the party. I have a podcast called Raging Moderates. Their politics aren't my politics. I've certainly been outspoken about the rise of the DSA and characters that support things like abolishing prisons and just real crackpot type of stuff. But I would say that I don't know if they are the beating heart of the party. There are lots of much more normie Democrats running in races all over the country, like a John Ossoff or Rob Sand in Iowa, who I'm sure wouldn't make your skin crawl in the same way.

kind of way. And that's very much the Democratic politics that I associate with. Well, you say that, but we have since 2019 over 250 DSA Democrats elected. You have the most radical slate of candidates I've ever seen in my life. I've mentioned a few of them. And here's my argument about a guy like John Ossoff or a guy like Sherrod Brown in Ohio, is when they get to Washington, who are they going to vote with? When it comes to committee assignments, who are they going to vote with? I'll give you an example. El-Sayed, Abdul El-Sayed, actually met with Chuck Schumer and the Democrats last week, and they committed $10 million to his campaign in Michigan.

And the establishment supposedly had poured money, you know, into Haley's, you know, into the more moderate, whoever was running up there against Abdul El-Sayed. And now they have embraced him. There's not one elected Democratic senator, but for John Fetterman that has had the courage to condemn this DSA agenda. And I'm predicting that Ossoff and Sherrod Brown will go there. And like every other Democrat, they will get in line and they'll never criticize ever the crazies that have taken over their party. And, you know, as evidenced by the fact that no Democrat now, no elected Democrat, but for Fetterman is willing to do that.

Abdul is actually not DSA, and I will make sure to send it to you. Abdul is Medicare for all, and his best friend is Hassan Piker. He's not some blogger and podcaster from California that he barely knows. Piker acknowledged that he was invited into campaign with him, and the guy lived on the campaign trail with him for a long time. Definitely. I mean, I was not refuting the relationship with Hassan Piker. I was just saying that Abdul identifies as a capitalist. And yeah, he's for Medicare for all. But a lot of people are for Medicare for all now. That doesn't feel extreme to me. Hassan Piker obviously has a number of extreme views. I think it was a mistake for him to be on a campaign trail with him. And I actually just interviewed Abdul this morning and got into it about Israel and whether there's a genocide going on and what he needs to do to be able to convince Jewish voters to get into his coalition.

I don't think he has a prayer to do that in the end. And, you know, he's been given multiple opportunities to condemn his relationship with Hassan Piker. He's failed to do so. Here's the problem. There's over 40 DSA candidates on the ballot this year. Since 2019, 250 DSA candidates have won. You know, you mentioned part of their agenda, eliminate the Senate, pack the courts. And you have moderate Democrats now, so-called moderate Democrats or establishment, I'd call them. They are saying they want to pack the courts.

No longer will the American people choose their president. Amnesty free illegals. Abolish borders. Abolish heist. End all deportation. Defund the Department of War. Eliminate cash bail. Abolish prisons and police. Public ownership of most corporations. A massive wealth tax coupled with cradle to grave, womb to the tomb, socialism, communism, statism. It's called the Green New Deal. Guaranteed government daycare. Guaranteed government job. Guaranteed government salary. Guaranteed government health care. Guaranteed government retirement. And even, Jessica, guaranteed government healthy food. Don't you want to know what the government wants to feed you?

I can take my own food, I think. Listen, I'm not here to support the DSA agenda. I'm not a member of the DSA. And there are folks running on essentially our ticket that I don't like. And there are other people who I think most of their views are pretty compatible with not only Democratic Party, but where base of Americans are. And you're seeing this in the change in the way that Republicans are even talking about some of these issues, like around data centers and the way that they're talking about cost of living. And I'm just not sure that it's going to work to make this an election about the radicalism of the left when Americans are suffering so much.

Well, I mean, you say that, but I mean, I can go through the list of financial success of the president and nobody seems to want to talk about those. But, you know, Hispanic and African-American poverty, all time low incomes for the lowest 25 percent are now the highest they've ever been in history. Median income is now eighty seven thousand six hundred dollars. That's the most ever. IRAs are going through the roof. That's people's retirement. That matters to them. The border is closed. Your Democratic friends voted for the largest tax cut in history and by doing so voted for the largest tax increase in history. We were lied to about the borders being closed and secure and we were lied to about Joe's cognitive health.

So I really don't trust Democrats a whole lot for them to get back in power. I don't know. We'll see. We have, what, 42 days to go? 42 days to go, Jessica. Yeah. Not many people who...

feel those accomplishments that you just rattled off. Quite the opposite. The president's approval is in the high 20s in some polls. Nobody has ever polled Donald Trump correctly. I'm not buying it. I mean, you were there on election night. I told everybody at nine in the nine o'clock hour how this night was going to end. Everyone looked at me like I had 10 heads and I ended up being 100 percent accurate. And I can tell you now, I don't know how this is all going to end in 42 days. Oh, you don't know. You're not convinced it's going to be that Republicans hold. You're just not sure. No, I think they are in a position to hold because these are uncharted waters because your party's gone crazy. I mean, do you think that like North Carolina?

with someone like a Roy Cooper, who you certainly think is enormous. I think Roy Cooper, advantage Roy Cooper in North Carolina, advantage Ossoff in Georgia. I think that Republicans will hold Texas. I think they'll win Michigan. I think they'll win Maine. I think they'll win Iowa. I think that they're going to have to work, but they will pull out Ohio, and I think they'll pull out Alaska. That's what I think is going to happen. Okay. As of today. Okay. Yeah, I mean...

I think that we flip Maine and I think that we get something in Alaska, Iowa and Texas. I definitely think we're flipping North Carolina. And I do feel good about Ohio as well. I think John Husted is a lot weaker than people think. But yeah, you always want to say up in the air that polling Trump voters has been difficult in the past, but he isn't.

It's, I mean, a blessing and a curse, I guess. He's not on the ballot technically. He would like to be on the ballot because he thinks that that's going to help everybody. But there are Republicans all over the country that are stripping him off of their websites. And what's going on? There are two things to look out for. If Trump is able to get enough of his base to take this as an important midterm for him, that will help. Republicans have a massive financial advantage that they've never had before. They've got, the president has 850 million. The House has 400 plus million. The Senate has 400 plus million.

Get out the vote effort is way better than the Democrats. And that's not something they can fix in 42 days. The money is an enormous problem. No amount of individual candidate fundraising is going to make up for the institutional advantage. I don't know what.

It's going to happen in Texas because I'm sure you saw that John Cornyn and George Bush are having a fundraiser for every other Senate candidate but Ken Paxton. And I think that sends a pretty strong message. But maybe there's enough that's going to come in for MAGA Inc. to be able to be victorious over Talafrico. But I think that the- Whoa, did I hear you call him Talafrico? Good for you. I'm proud of you. You know that the Talafrico merch is their best-selling product.

Whatever works, I guess. Jessica Tarloff, co-host of the hit show, The Five. I disagree. Winning arguments without losing friends. Great title. Anyway, Jessica, thank you. 800-941-SHAWN. If you want to be a part of the program, we've got a lot more ground to cover, including the president's big speech before the UN today. He was so dialed in on message, on point in front of every nation. It's definitely worth playing. And we'll get to that on the other side of the break. Quick break. Right back. We'll continue on the other side. Our final roundup and information overload hour.

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