Can Someone Get Me A Human, Please?

In this episode, Spencer explores the difference between community and connection, and our need for both. With help from an unexpected friendship forged in difficult circumstances, and from the ever-present but sometimes questionable benefits of a virtual office full of AI chatbots, Spencer finds that the best thing we can do is to get out and find connection among real people. Research and survey data quoted in this episode came from the following sources: Stanford University, “AI Companions May Worsen Loneliness for Vulnerable Users” (Stanford HAI): https://hai.stanford.edu/news/ai-companions-may-worsen-loneliness-for-vulnerable-users-stanford-study-finds Zhang et al., Nature Human Behaviour (2026), study of Character.AI users: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-026-02516-2 Fang et al., MIT Media Lab and OpenAI, “How AI and Human Behaviors Shape Psychosocial Effects of Chatbot Use: A Longitudinal Randomized Controlled Study”: https://www.media.mit.edu/publications/how-ai-and-human-behaviors-shape-psychosocial-effects-of-chatbot-use-a-longitudinal-controlled-study/ De Freitas, Oğuz-Uğuralp, Uğuralp & Puntoni, “AI Companions Reduce Loneliness,” Journal of Consumer Research: https://doi.org/10.1093/jcr/ucaf040 De Freitas et al., Nature Human Behaviour (2026), grief following AI companion model updates, as reported by the Harvard Gazette: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2026/09/chatbot-attachment-issues/ Chu et al., “Illusions of Intimacy: Emotional Attachment and Emerging Psychological Risks in Human-AI Relationships”: https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.11649 “Tool or Companion? Reframing Conversational AI to Prevent Psychological Harm” (on “structurally asymmetric” interaction): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC13561399/ Dohnány et al., “Technological folie à deux: Feedback Loops Between AI Chatbots and Mental Health,” Nature Mental Health (2026): https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.19218 Get In Touch With Fan Mail Call It Whatever with Spencer Jenkins New episodes every week. Listen, follow, and find more: callitwhateverpodcast.com © 2026 Call It Whatever. All rights reserved.