EPISODE · Aug 12, 2025 · 45 MIN
Caring Relationships Drive Revenue
from Get Down to College Business
In this insightful episode, host Sarah Holtan, PhD, sits down with Kevin McClure, PhD, Professor of Higher Education at the University of North Carolina-Wilmington. They discuss the critical state of employee well-being in higher education. Dr. McClure unpacks the evolving landscape of university workplaces, addressing the challenges facing faculty and staff post-pandemic, and offers actionable steps for leaders looking to create a truly caring institution.The conversation dives deep into why employee well-being is more than an HR talking point—it's a strategic imperative for any college hoping to thrive. Dr. McClure shares research-backed strategies, stories from his own journey through burnout, and the essential structural and leadership changes required to make real progress.Episode Highlights02:05 - The state of employee well being in higher education is not great... we're still recovering from a really challenging time period during the pandemic.09:50 - Doing what's right for employees is actually doing what's right for the organization more broadly.21:14 - We can't really bring individualized solutions to organizational challenges because they're only going to go so far.36:38 - Care is something that leaders themselves can also expect, and that's a reasonable expectation.Sarah Holtan, PhDLinkedInKevin McClure, PhDLinkedInLinktree
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