Caroline Wong — The state of Penetration Testing

Caroline Wong is the Chief Strategy Officer at Cobalt. io. You cannot hack yourself secure. The challenge is that developers get bored with hacking broken pieces of code after a while. Sure, it's a shiny, cool new thing in the beginning, but how about one year later? At Security Journey, we focus on long-term sustainable security culture with the developers as defenders. We believe that developers need hands-on experience, but not at the expense of fundamental knowledge. Visit www. securityjourney. com to sign up for a free trial of the Security Dojo or schedule a demo. This is Robert Hurlbut. Threat modeling architect. I'm also joined by my co-host Chris Romeo.The Application Security Podcast is brought to you by Security Journey.About Security JourneyCaroline Wong is the Chief Strategy Officer at Cobalt.→ Learn more about Security JourneyConnect with Caroline Wong:→ Cobalt.io→ BSIMMMentioned in this episode:→ Cobalt.io→ BSIMM→ Burp Suite→ HackerOne→ Bugcrowd→ PCI Security Standards CouncilFollow the Application Security Podcast:➜ Home➜ X➜ LinkedIn➜ YouTube➜ Instagram➜ FacebookChapters:00:00 Meet Caroline Wong: Caroline Wong — The state of Penetration Testing02:38 Absolutely. And so as Chris mentioned, today we're going to shift05:03 Great. So another interesting thing that I hear, maybe some confusion07:29 Sure, right. Okay, that makes sense. So let's talk about software11:39 That okay14:43 Caroline, that definitely makes sense. And I do have another question16:49 Now we had a question about your company. Your company also28:45 I have one more question, and this sort of— just thinking