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Sep 27, 2025 35 min

“Cary Elwes”

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The Best Hang is talking stand-up routines, train etiquette, “Nirvanna: The Band - the Show - the Movie”, and the Robbie Williams bio-pic “Better Man”.

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Good to see you. Shane, you're wearing a bucket hat that says, Mott's Clomato. Are you, are you got a new sponsorship deal? What's going on there?

Or you know, asus, which one is it? Well, I wish it was the latter, but it is the former. Oh, gotcha. You can say that about your sponsor.

You can say that about your sponsor. Well, it's Alex's thing. I'm just along for the ride, but we are going to a Mott's Clomato event on Tuesday, and I'm testing out the gear before I go. It's good luck.

Hold on a second, be honest. Did you have it? What's your deal that you'd wear it on the best, on the best hang pod and get extra mentions? I don't think I can ever get a piece of that right now.

Truthfully, I do not think Mott's Clomato knows exist. Alex has a plus one. So they sent, like even when they email me, they call me Alexandra. Oh, so you're Mr.

Landparksy, as far as their concern. Yeah. She does go by Alexandra Cunningham, though, on her. That's true on her Instagram.

We know life she doesn't know. It does remind me of a friend's wedding where the officiant was so terrible that when the officiant started reading the vows. First of all, the officiant, she was like, it was at this really swanky club. It's one of our good friends.

You know, they might not want this during the pod, but basically we go to this fancy wedding at this beautiful venue and the officiant from the start, she's kind of like, ha ha, like we're going to get through this because my kids got a hockey practice. She's sort of trying to be loose, but we're all like, this is this beautiful moment for this couple. Don't really give a shit about your Kentucky practice. So she keeps kind of doing this bit.

Then she pulls out the paper to basically start talking about the couple and how they fell in love. Within about a minute, we realize it's the wrong couple. She's got paperwork from some other thing that she's either doing the next day or later on. Yeah.

So she's reading a roll like, and you can see the look on her friends. Oh my God. And then she corrects that. She goes through the whole ceremony.

And then misses. And she did the wife's last name, her maiden name, even though they were both taking the husband's name. Was this a ****? Yes.

Yes. Yeah, it was a ****. I don't remember the first part of that. Yes.

She had the wrong ****ing like vows and like origin story of meeting and all that. And we were, it was just very uncomfortable. And yeah. So we're pretty weird.

Nathan, keep all this in and just believe a **** name and then a listener's can hear that story. But I think, you know, like anything with time, it becomes funnier, even though maybe in the moment for them, it was a bit of a, you know, wasn't the best outcome. But I don't know. I feel like you, you kind of do want something interesting to happen sometimes in your wedding day.

I find that adds a little life to it. And I found they played it cool. Maybe they were dying inside, but I thought they thought it was funny. If it were to happen to any of our friends, they were the ones because I think they are, they just go with it.

You know, anyway, that's our opening story. Max, how have you been? What's been going on? You're wearing, well, since we're talking about hats, you're also wearing a hat that says the second city supporting improv.

Yeah, it's just laugh. I know we talk about, we know we talk about crowd work in a group chat about how crowd work is actually the easiest form of standup comedy. It's actually way easier than writing a joke. I think that's bullshit though.

I think it takes less prep, but you're not good at it too. Like people think they're good at crowd work and it can be very, very uncomfortable. It's like when someone's a good doodler, you might think doodling is an art form. If you're a different artist who takes a lot of time and you do all that, but a person who can do a doodle very quickly, I'm very impressed by and I think they're very talented.

So I feel like all the people I see saying people who do crowd work are hacks or that's not the real form of standup comedy. It's always the people that are never good at crowd work. It was like the clip I saw was Mike Brabiglia and this other guy who I didn't know, maybe he's great at it, but I've never known or seen a clip of Brabiglia just killing crowd work. I find he doesn't know what to do and he's great standup.

He does more of like a one man show. And it's so crafted. Yeah, exactly. But also there's not a lot of great standup comedy out there.

So if there was this wave of awesome standup comedy, I might agree more where I'm like, oh my God, the last five comedy specials that have been knocking me on my ass, but I kind of turn on a standup special, eat it with like a meal. And then I have to shut it off before the meal is even done because it's just not enjoyable. What do you guys think of Nate Brgazzi because I actually watched his specials sort of regularly on having down with my computer. So if I have a long flight, I'll throw it on.

It's very soothing. He's very sweet. Yeah, basically what do I have on my computer? I have the Chris Rock stand, especially.

I thought you were going to go back to his famous one and like 96 or something. I thought you were going to start like doing her. I thought you were going to start like Jimmie Fallon. Yeah.

Yeah. Actually, one of the best I selected outrage, that's the most recent one, which is really good. He gets to the Will Smith slap at the very end. He holds it back because this is big.

He did a big tour after getting slapped. And then so everyone's like, what's he going to say about the Will Smith thing? And he basically crafts this amazing hour. And in the last four minutes, he talks about the Will Smith thing.

Did he try to do that special live? Yeah. He fucked up the punch line. In Washington.

Yeah. Yeah. Baltimore. Yeah.

It isn't Baltimore. It's terrible. It isn't Baltimore. It's terrible.

It isn't Baltimore in the state of Washington. Isn't this the whole thing about Washington? It's not a state, my friend. It's a district of Columbia.

There's the whole issue with people that live in Washington. Seattle is in the state of Washington. That's what I'm talking about. Washington.

Yes. But he doesn't understand. Yes. Yes.

The geography is on my strong suit. You know, I told people when I was going to Italy, people were like, oh, where are you going? I'm going to Tuscany and Florence. I was like, oh, I'm going to Canada.

I'm going to Canada. I'm going to Canada. I'm going to Canada. I'm going to Canada.

I'm going to Canada. I'm going to Canada. I'm going to Canada. I'm going to Ontario and Toronto.

I just didn't know what the fuck I was talking about until I got there. No, I'm in the next version. This is an apricotsy joke, actually, in the special that I watched. He talked about how he has a lot of fans in Honduras because he did a show there, but it's really for the US troops.

They're like, oh, where are you going in Honduras? Someone asked him at the gate and he was like, well, I'm just learning that. It's not a country. But I like for Gatsy.

He actually does the kind of humor that I think I could do. Do you ever watch the end of comedians and you go, oh, I couldn't do, you know, Chris Rock. I could, Malaney would be hard burr. I definitely could do.

I think I could do Bergazzi. We literally did this on the last episode. So you think you could do Bergazzi. You think you could do it once upon a time in Hollywood.

So you could do Tarantino films and you could do it Bergazzi 60 minutes. I like it. Yeah. I love it.

Yeah. But what do you think, Shane? Do you think you could, who you most like, Mike Matt Rife? Wait, did you just switch?

Mike is like Matt Rife? No, no, no, no. I hate improv stuff just because I'm bad at it. If somebody yells something out, it's almost like my mind would go blank.

I have to have everything perfectly planned. I would say, who am I most like? I would like to be most like Norm maybe. That's maybe God's try to emulate.

I mean, Norm did the best crowd work maybe in the history of television when he was on the coach next to Carrot Top, that famous interview when he just turned back the board. That was really chairman of the board. Yeah. Who are you, Mike?

I don't know. Obviously we've talked about this in the pod. I'm sure a ton of times over the years. But you always think, oh, what would I be like if I got up?

I actually have the most confidence in the world in my ability to get up and deliver jokes and comfortably sort of talk to a room. It's the confidence in the material. Could I write a quality five minutes? You know, I'd have to lean on my friends.

I'd have to rehearse it. And then I'd feel comfortable. But as far as the content of the jokes or the storytelling, that's the question. That's what gives a comedian their voice.

That's what makes them unique, et cetera. So I have a sense of what I would do. But our friend Jeff Foxworthy? No, Jeff Foxworthy.

Yeah, our friend Jeff Foxworthy. No, Jeff Foxworthy. No, Jeff the Silver who wrote on the dessert. He posted a comedian.

I'm forgetting his name. The bit that this comedian did is he gets up and he says, you know, we all could be heroic in a moment. You know, like I have a family. So I imagine if like an intruder came to the house with a gun, he's like, I would bravely stand in front of my family and I'd be like, shoot me first.

You know, and I'm like, okay, where's he going with this? The funny set up premise or whatever? A little dark. He goes because my thinking is he's going to kill all of us anyway.

And I want to live through him killing the rest of my family. So I would like to die first. And then, you know, and then we're all we can all laugh about it on the way to heaven is we're flying up to heaven. Anyway, I was just like, I wish I was going to this guy's name.

I wish I was going to this guy's name. I'm going to look him up and say later in the pocket, you got to give comedians credit. I'd never heard this guy before. But I was like, that bit is the sort of way my brain works because it's surreal.

It's weird. It's funny. It's dark. I'm like, I would try if I was doing a series of those kind of like anecdotal.

I thought about this scenario and this is me saying it on stage. So it's so funny. We're having a session. I just saw that this morning.

I think what are my morning shows reading. I was watching. I was like, oh, that's the kind of thing I would do if I ever, you know, had the gumption to actually get up and do it. Does that, does that track?

Yeah. I was like, do I have a note of stand up comedy? Yeah. Yeah.

I do. Let's hear it. There's four things written down probably over the course of like five years. And they're not even fine.

I do this new. Same. Yes. It's so cringy.

It's going to be funny. Okay. The, the notice how stand up comedy ideas. The Vatican pope take on things like the Vatican slash hope take on things.

Okay. I don't know where that was going to go. My friends watching wrestling was getting the other thing but there's no joke. That's just politics.

He's just, he's right. So these are just loose, like concept. He said I can't remember where, where they'll go. Okay.

It's so undefined. That is probably the time I was like, this would lead to a good joke. And I've got politics, government spending money versus how I spend money. Who do I trust more?

That's funny. That's funny. That's good. to it.

And then I thought I won this morning actually that I just write down something very funny about a beautiful woman who clearly is vain and like really deeply cares about her looks. And so a lot of time thinking about that picking up dog shit and having to carry around dog shit all the time. That's funny. Yeah, I feel like I might have heard something like that just how, you know, like if aliens saw us and we're walking around picking up the dog shit, but yours is a different take because it's just talking about the name.

As far as I've gone, but that the factory five that's a but we're maybe we're at the one when I go on long walks often, I have this fantasy that I'm going to come up with a stand up routine. But one concept I've been toying with in my walks is the cost the cost benefit analysis of people who ride bikes with no hands. Like, you know, sometimes you'll see like just this like stern looking dude confidently riding around but he's using no hands. It's not like he's doing anything else.

He's almost just showing off. What is the benefit to that? How many people is he impressing versus how much like he's putting his life on the line? And I just want to work out a comedic bit like maybe when he was 12, it was impressing people and he just still thinks it's cool.

The injury that could happen from it. You know, maybe there's no comedy involved in this as it seems like no, it's not even sparking anything. But this is what I fantasize about me working out that bit. Okay, since we've been talking about bits, I've gone through some of my notes, I'm going to leave some of my Beals material off the table here.

But two bits that I just I know I've heard this but I'll hear it again. I'm not doing the Beatles. I should save this for my stand up and I'll never do. But okay, here's why is it cute when babies fart babies can get away with anything in line of Starbucks and my baby farts and the Poshus woman in there suddenly doesn't care about the breach of etiquette.

Oh, that's so cute. If I fart in a Starbucks, it's a different story babies can get away with anything. Baby cheats on their partner. Oh, that's so cute.

Yeah, anyway, that's funny. Yeah, these all need to be developed and refined and you actually set them up in rhythms. Some of them were so long, I had a whole bit about George Harrison and Ringo Star. It doesn't matter.

But yeah, I think we all have the fantasy. But I think the reason it is true about that baby thing. Yeah, I was on the train yesterday. And these parents just, you know, I they had a different way of bringing up their child where the kid could kind of do whatever they wanted.

It was like a one in a half year old maybe and the baby was crawling all over me the kid. I guess it was almost a toddler. Where were you on the train? And they were usually no one sits near me for some reason.

I'm putting out a vibe like don't sit near me. So I usually have all three seats. Can I just say, by the whole you put that vibe to your friends like me, Shane and John usually catch the same train around eight 24 in the morning from West Auburn Hamilton and Shane, I get it because I said to him, I'm not saying machine like there's times where I might catch another corner of my eye and I just go to another car because I know we both want that hour and 20 minutes to ourselves. But if I see John, I will sit with John.

I feel like you really are like, I want my time alone. Well, I John knows that too. And so I sat with him the other day and then he acted like, Oh, I know you got to do your thing. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I do.

And then he started talking halfway through and he talks so loud. I'm like, what is going on? I had actually shush in. This was like a month ago, but I couldn't believe he was breaking the etiquette, especially I said the quiet zone.

Yeah, anyway, this baby is crawling all over me. And I'm like, I can't push this baby. I can't feel weird touching a baby and lifting it taking it off me. And then I just look at the dad and I'm like laughing nervously, I'm like, kiss.

And he's just like, okay, get off any like, I think the kid off the kid wouldn't and then I'm just have a kid crawling all over me. I do not know what to do. It's true. Your bit is sound.

I guess that's that's the goal is it's something universal and then some weird bizarre punch line or take on it. But yeah, would the three of us take with no hands doesn't resonate. I like like, you don't know. You don't think that resonates?

Because as someone who sometimes likes no hands, it's about the simple explanation is that you don't want to be bending over it's actually just more comfortable to not be bent over. I think right. Yes. Okay.

That's maybe the whole like, see, I you have shorter arms, your short arm guy, long arm guy. So I never had any comfort. Yeah. Oh, my God.

Okay, I just have a new idea. All right, what would your authoritarian regime look like? What would you do in your authoritarian regime? Like, for example, yeah, okay, I like that.

I like that. I like throw this out like everyone thinks about this and you clearly have an answer. This is why you go for it. You know, because I was in Philadelphia and this parade of kids on motorcycles started like, there's like 25 of them and they were doing we're losing shit and it was like so anti social, I was like, we got to rest all these people.

You have to rest all of them. Same thing with loud motorcycles. Like, that's the kind of thing my authoritarian regime would really lean in on, you know, like, like arresting people who disturb the piece. Yeah, yeah, that'd be a big part of it.

Yeah, that's an authoritarian move. I think it says you define it. Yeah, wait, it would be like, like homeless people, it would be like entitled loud people. Yeah, that's what I would arrest.

Yeah. Yeah. I know the joke, but no, it could be real. You've got social dialed in searches doing its thing.

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Did you watch that doc? Yeah. Like no, I started I put in the pod group and I haven't found time to watch yet. But it's not the greatest doc in the world.

They skim over the one part I give a shoot about which is him shooting Kelly Preston, like he was dating Kelly Preston, who was always big crush of mine growing up. She's in chair and choir and all that and all those room five videos. But he shot it with a gun. And yeah, and off the top of the doc, it's like, I'm gonna be saying things that I've never said before and you're gonna learn all this stuff and this is off the cuff and all this.

And then it gets to the part about the shooting. And the guy from two and a half men his counterpart in that, I forget his name. He's in the 80s. John Choir.

He touches on it. And then you think, okay, now it's gonna be Charlie's perspective and he's gonna say whether he did in fact shooter or not. And then they just jump to another part of his life. It was bullshit.

So yeah, I lost a lot of respect for the doc and it's a frivolous doc and worth a watch while you're eating like a TV dinner or something. But it's not a great doc. I speaking of biographies. Oh, you're gonna go somewhere?

I was just gonna quickly share. On the plane home from Italy, I watched Better Man, which is the Robbie Williams doc where he's sort of like personified. He's like a dancing monkey is his avatar. That's not a doc.

He wasn't a monkey. So he's like, yeah, Doc's a biopic. Just clearing it up for the audience. I know what you meant.

I appreciate it. Yes. Talk about monkey pretending to be Robbie Williams. I don't know if it's because it was a plane movie.

I don't know what it was. It was fantastic. It was just such a good way. It was good way to do it.

It was like, you really bought him as this sort of dancing monkey. It was even so expressive. It told his story like, listen, biopics of famous musicians, the rise, their fall, and then their sort of eventual comeback and all the beats are so known. There's really no way to do it.

I just so this was a weird little spin on it. And Robbie Williams is actually a way kind of more interesting person than even like an Elton John or like, you know, I've seen so many of these biopics, you know, it's like, it's just like, it was really, really, really well done. And afterward, I'm like googling like his relationship with Nicole Appleton from, from all saints and like, that actually happened like that. And it like, it did.

And she went to premiere to support him and like the ebb and flow of like, that's awesome. It's really good. But is it more interesting because it's Robbie Williams, William Story or more interesting, because you never see like an ape doing cocaine or sleeping with a woman? Yeah, that's a good question.

I it's hard. I think it's it all works in concert together to make this great dog and you stop thinking of the monkey as a dancing monkey after a while, which I think is some maybe meta commentary on acceptance of fame or people's weirdness. And I don't know, but like you saw going, oh, this is weird after the first like 20 minutes. But then when he's hurt or he's sad or he acts out of his rage, it actually is kind of more impactful because you're seeing it through like the vulnerable face of a fucking animal, you know, it's like, yeah, and then all the beats, how do they explain the monkey part?

Like, is it just like monkeys born? It's just like this a monkey, this world we're living in now do not question it. They never know it opens with like a soccer game when he's like nine and then the kind of the mean kid and wherever he grew up in some, you know, he grew up in like a sort of a more working class British town, they're like, fucking Robbie William. And they sort of they bully the kid this little baby monkey.

And you sort of like, okay, okay, then he goes home and he lives with his grandmother and his mother and you learn about his dad who's this sort of like hack like lounge singer who only shows up every once in a while. But then that whole like, anyway, you just accept it, they never acknowledge that he is a monkey, you know, and then how he gets into take that with the boy band and it's just like, it's really, it's good. It's just, I was just really impressed with it. And also I was on a plane.

So what is the monkey metaphor? I think he has like dance monkey dance. Like he's a carnival attraction, you know, he's like, he's a buffoon that is there to entertain the people. And I think maybe that's how he sees himself, you know, but also, he's an animal and he's sort of, he gives into his more basic instincts.

And he but then also tries to elevate to be more and it's kind of this whole journey. And it's just really, and he gets into like hairy situations. Yes, that's true. That's true.

But Max is in a big no laughing moment. That was so bad that it was good, Max. And you didn't laugh. No, they do like this.

Something's going on with Max today. Well, speaking of laughs, we should we should, I think we have a duty as people in the artistic community to talk about the premiere that we went to a TIFF, Nirvana, the band, the movie, the show, the move on of the band, the show, the movie, the show, the movie, absolutely. And Mike, do you want to say that? I thought it was just such a feat.

And we're all tied to these guys. And they're very inspiring to us. And we probably talked about the show before. We did on the last part.

Yeah. I mean, first of all, yeah, thanks to Matt Johnson for getting us to end up being great seats at the premiere, the midnight screening, TIFF. It was a who's who of like music people like Ash was satisfying me as we came in and you guys might be getting drinks from the bathroom. Like we saw the guy from July talk and then I looked over at my right and there's the drum of the Bernanke ladies and then like the mayor of Toronto Olivia Chow like comes and actually I was talking to some people at a TIFF party and I was like, the mayor, Olivia Chow was there and they're like, really?

I was like, yeah, but it was a midnight screening. And honestly guys, I looked over at one point halfway through the movie and she was laying across four seats sleeping. And they were like, what really? And I was like, no, I'm joking.

I was like, it was too seep. She's very small. I was just sort of like doing that fucking late on. And then I was at the routine.

Better than the baby bit. But anyway, it was a who's who obviously had Max from our Kells. And I think I'm even forgetting some people, but it was it was a slammed midnight screening of like sort of Toronto musicians and sort of comedy people that were all excited to see what Matt Johnson and Jim Carol did with Nirvana the band the show, the movie. And then again, again, it started rolling just after midnight.

And that's the setup. Yeah, so, you know, a little backstory on those guys, you know, they made this web series, I got turned into a TV show with Vice, the name J. McCarrel has been around for a very long time because J sort of the reason why Tim and our band is in the band because J and Tim played in a band together. Imagine this last episode.

And did I feel like I was like, I was repeating myself. So and then of course, R Kells helped a little bit with the production they film a pivotal scene at the R Kells Bud stage show. And so to see it on the big screen, actually, I don't want to say that I did take my phone out and I did film that that 15 second clip just from my personal records. But what I loved with the minute screening was you get all these tiff heads in the audience that know all the beats for like how tiff culture goes.

And you know, we think of ourselves as movie people, we like to go to tiff events. But did you guys catch that like during the before the opening credits even happened when they're like giving like they have like the piracy war. Yeah, and they have, you know, they had this other thing where people like, I'll have every years that's been happening that kind of like people get a rhythm that go to all the same stuff. One years ago, they were pulling that shit.

I hated every time. It's a great tradition. It was great. It was great.

I mean, something to the community. No, I just I don't like that stuff. But you don't know. You're the guy of the training.

Well, talking about it. I don't know. To me, it's just like shut up. It's like when people clap on a plane lands, I like, I guess it's bringing us all together and you have a good intention.

But it's to me, it's like, I don't like it. I don't know. I should like it because it's well intentioned. I just don't.

It makes me cringe. Really? I know it was cool. You just need to get an festive spirit a little bit more.

But I think maybe it was more novel for you because it seems like you didn't know that was gonna happen. I think I've seen that happen 58 times. And I'm like, guys, enough. I will say that the the demo of people there were basically exactly us.

It was men age 37 45. Oh, yeah. Just that makes me cringe too. Just seeing the other one's dress.

I'm like, I am the most like cookie cutter loser in the world. I look around. Like, I think I'm cool. I got my little Moscow motto hat on my running and funny.

It's like, I'm losing it. Just like everybody. Everybody's walking with a Moscow motto. Or, you know, their own kitchen thing or their new pants are rolled up and it's like, shut up.

You know, I don't like it. They don't like being me in situations like them. I relate to what the actor Carrie always was there. And so I that was I was talking about it at the very end.

Is that how you say his last name? So I always said it. Carrie always. How you say it?

I don't think that's it. Carrie. Oh, Alex loves that guy. I'll look at that.

That's it though. Yeah. Anyway, I was, you know, the movie was amazing. 10 out of 10 feet.

You know, it's like the special effects for such like a seemingly like run and gun kind of movie that almost felt sometimes like a reality show or like a documentary, but then they pulled off all these visual effects. The first 30 minutes is just incredible. You're on like one everything's hilarious in the first 30 minutes. And you're on the edge of your seat.

Like it's scary. Like how good the effects are is mind-blowing. It's just as good as any movie that would cost like $100 million. The effects even better because the way it shot like you're saying that reality show format sucks you in so much.

You almost can't believe what you're saying. It was so impressive and very, very, very funny. And there's a whole there's a whole scene where they have to go and they have to buy these players from this guy like a home hardware. And this is all like you're interacting with a real person and they're sort of shooting it running gun style.

Turns out that guy was sitting right next to me and Ash. So because after the movie screen, they talked and they brought this guy this home depot work. I think it was a home depot or whatever, a hardware. And he went up on the stage and he talked, I had no idea that was the guy from the movie.

But now I read it because I think they were also filming maybe his scenes now that I think about it. I was like in the row of everybody filming their participation in the movie. I did find that carry out a way of pronunciation here. So I'm just going to play this video.

So we're all going to hear from first time. We'll see if there's a ad. There's of course, there's a frickin ad because that's YouTube these days. You guys pay for the YouTube premium so you can skip the ads.

I refuse. Here we go. Okay, I'll let's. looking at how to announce the name of this English actor and writer.

Indeed, we're going to be looking at how to say more interesting and often mispronounced celebrity names to something to stay tuned in considering subscribing for more learning. What is this guy? He's a guy from Princess Bride. What's his name?

Such as the Princess Bride. She says you'll be heard. You might be right. And I've only heard it that way.

The crush or saw. He's saying always. I know it's stupid. Right?

I know. I'm getting out. Well, there we go. There's a picture for what?

Once you know. I got it. I got it. Oh, is always.

You know, I heard Elle is there. Oh, is he saying Elle? You heard Elle? I'll go in here.

There's two of them. So here's another one. I also feel like we're talking we're listening over. I know.

Listen, sorry, everywhere. If your eyes open. Who's in that movie? Oh, Carrie.

Elle is his name. You need. Elle is always. I tell you, it's always.

They said Elle is there. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I didn't hear them say Elle. Let's see what this one says.

Carry Elle's. Yeah. I was saying it to Elle. I'm hearing it.

Elle's. I thought you're saying Elle's Carrie Elle's. Elle's Carrie Elle's Carrie Elle's. I'm like Carrie Elle's.

Elle's Carrie Elle's. Yeah. Elle's. Elle's.

You're saying Elle is like like like the quarterback like John Elle way. That's kind of how I'm saying it. So yes. So when I heard Alex, I thought she said Elle's or Elle's.

So she said she said it different. No argument there. One thing I can agree on. Yeah.

Because we should be saying it different. She was saying it away. I'd never heard it. So it's Elle's.

I was saying Elle is like John Elle. Yeah. Carrie Elle's Carrie Elle's. She was saying Elle's or something like Elle's or Elle's or Ewels.

I can't know what she said. But yeah, she's not right. You're more right than her. I'll say that I am wrong.

Elle's Elle's not Elle's. I'm like John Elle. Go on, Maxie. I think we knew another 10 on this.

Or anyway, he was after he was there. He was walking out and I think she got a good shot of him. But I didn't get a good video. As you wish.

Yeah. As you wish. And that you ever watched your big Princess Bride guy growing up. Nope.

That was the most handsome man in the world for like 20 minutes in popular culture. Mm. That movie he kind of had like a you know Mick Jagger had like a two year period where he was very handsome. Look like Harry Styles.

Yeah. Carrie, whatever the fuck his last name is, had that too. Yeah. Right.

So but did everyone enjoy the film? Nirvana the band show the movie? I did. Yeah.

You must see must see cinema. Go see it whenever it comes up. Yeah. Yeah.

And what's it? Matt is just so funny. Like he's just so naturally funny. His energy is just hilarious.

Anytime he's speaking, I'm either captivated in total agreement or on laughing. Jay is great too. It's just and they play off each other wonderfully. It's just I you don't see a guy like Matt every day.

And it's a very special energy that he has. I was also feeling very good when they because I was talking about how he's got kind of like a notable body in it. Like just the way he looks and they made a joke about it in the movie itself. They did notice that totally.

Yeah. That was a funny thing. Actually, you know, I watched a ton of Nirvana band show like you've gone you've done every episode chain. But Jay's role is straight man.

Right. Like Matt gets to be crazy and Jay sort of like the audience in some ways like because you know, I felt like in this movie Jay got to actually do more like I feel like Jay actually got to do some really funny things that I hadn't seen in the episodes as much as though. Yeah. In the show.

He's got some he's got some very memorable parts that he makes up this Nintendo song that's unbelievable. And it's really weird. And that is like one of the most iconic moments in the show. They had a brief clip of it in the movie too.

But I find he does he just has a different energy. Yeah, it's almost like Vince Von Elen Wilson. Like I wouldn't say well, it's the straight man. Yeah.

Any other any other I was going to say they also have this like great as you say like rapport back and forth where like it just feels like they're just always on with each other. Whereas it's like everything is sort of like an improv bit where they're kind of intentionally cutting each other off and they're intentionally like looking fun but then also saying things like love. It's just like they're to operate in that state of chemistry all day long would be like a seems to be like a fun place to be. Directors commentary and I mentioned this last time of Black Berry is very funny how they rip each other and how Matt is like taking Jay down in a way.

It's it's really fun in a playful way but it's almost kind of serious and talking about like how I was like Jay thought he directed the movie or something like there's really funny jabs at Jay. In a good way. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, we got to wrap the wrap is up. We will wrap it up and wrap it up. But just before we only give a shout out, I was at Supercrawl in Hamilton is that it was a Supercrawl or whatever the one that happened. Supercrawl.

There you go. Lots of bands are playing actually. I saw Born Ruffians, which is always great to see those guys play because I do like their music. But while I was sort of in the crowd with our pals, person came up and said, Are you Mike from the best hang?

And I was like, I am. And her name is Tara. And she was super nice. I want to give her a shout out because she listens and it's always nice getting recognized in the crowd.

Yeah. So anyway, I guess that's that go see Nirvana, the band the show, the movie, I'd also say check out Better Man about Robby Williams. If you want to see a cool biopic that's a little different than your standard biopic. And yeah, that's it.

That's all it's up. So thank you so much to Nathan Nash. You guys is a great hang. Maybe the best.

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