Cases on Cases

Two verdicts, two dead kids, two very different outcomes. We went through the Karmelo Anthony trial testimony line by line, then the Rick Chow acquittal — and one of these is not like the other.No intro, no segments this week. Straight in.(04:09) Why we're doing it this way. Setting the table on both cases, and being upfront that race is a factor in both whether you like the verdicts or not.(06:26) How does a track meet end in a body? Neither of us can get from "it started raining, he walked under a tent" to somebody losing their life. That gap never closes.(07:52) To white listeners, then to black listeners. The part about being asked what you're doing somewhere — driving through the wrong neighborhood, delivering for Amazon in uniform, still getting the cops called. Then the harder half: we can't respond to individual situations when the consequences are macro. R.I.P. Austin Metcalf.(12:40) Reacting to a reporter who was actually in the room. No cameras were allowed in the trial, so we went through a courtroom correspondent's account of the defense's case rather than a cable news summary.(16:23) The witness who changed his story. A student admits his account shifted after meeting with prosecutors. We stopped it right there.(20:01) "The story is the story." Every student witness — prosecution and defense both — testified to the same core detail. So how does he win?(27:34) The Eddie problem. The friend Karmelo was supposedly there to see says on the stand they weren't really close. Then the defense produces eight or nine photos, including birthday parties at Eddie's house.(33:24) Was he even supposed to be there? Testimony says he was an alternate on the 4x100 and scheduled for a jump. Also: Centennial was the only team out there without a tent.(35:35) What actually happened under the tent. The escalation as the witnesses described it, Austin Metcalf and his brother Hunter, and the moment the whole case turns on.(41:40) Stop saying the white boy was bigger. Neither of us thinks the size argument holds up, and we say why.(44:52) The misinformation on both sides. The bullying story people ran with that testimony doesn't support — and what it costs us when we believe things because they benefit us.(48:38) Now the clear injustice: Rick Chow. 14-year-old Cyrus Carmack-Belton, shot in the back outside a Columbia, South Carolina convenience store in 2023. Acquitted of murder this month.(49:44) The facts of the case. The prosecution's argument, the defense's argument, Andy Chow, and the central dispute over whether Cyrus ever pointed a gun.(53:25) Going through the store video. He picked up waters. He put them back. Nothing was stolen — that isn't in dispute. What is: why an entire family chased a 14-year-old a hundred yards over three dollars of water.(59:38) Murder vs. manslaughter. Why the charge they brought may be the reason he walked.(01:02:50) The part nobody wants to hear. People who can explain in detail why they're stuck but won't sit still for five minutes of a solution — and get offended when you offer one.(01:06:19) What 35 years actually costs. Nobody who's done it stands on it. The temperature of the water. The birthdays. Chris calling somebody from Jamaica just so he could bring him along for a minute.(01:09:04) Charles Oakley, James Dolan, and where you're allowed to be. If I paid to be there, I'm not leaving.(01:11:36) R.I.P. Cyrus. Protect these kids. Even if a kid is stealing from you — that's what cops and laws are for. Leave them alone.(01:12:22) Closing it out. Race, proximity, and how rarely anybody actually sits down with somebody who doesn't look like them. Plus: why you don't get to decide who somebody else is allowed to love.🎵 Intro: Kendrick Lamar, with clips from Louis Farrakhan, Jay-Z and Charleston White TAP IN AND DOWNLOAD!! FOLLOW!!! IG: @_alwaysaaron @outsidelookinginpod 👂 Tap in. Share it. Tell a friend