‘Casino Royale’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Amanda Dobbins

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Wow! My name is Simmons. Bill Simmons. See you later, I was there.

This may be too much of a nonsense to understand. Anything can kill. I want you to take your evil out of the equation. Sir, you want me to be half my coffee, man.

I knew it was too edit to limit you. Well, I understand that but it was not the first you in life expectancy. I'm guessing the way I'll be a beat your team. All right, so I'm on an airplane coming back from Boston after a dramatic game 7.

And my Delta screen is not working, and I can only get movies from A to B or C. Casino Royale is there, and I'm like, I've seen a Royale. I love that movie. I get to escape, the Traumatic Celtics lost.

I get to go to Monaco, and I get to go to Venice, and I get to go to Bahamas. I'm in. And I watched it, and halfway through I texted you guys, and I was like, um, this movie's a leap. It's time to do this.

It is time. I'm in a Royale. I made it one of your favorites. Favorite Bond movie?

We've done it with my favorite, which is Skyfall, but Skyfall cannot exist without Casino Royale. And it's won you for me. And then I'm pretty de-cosm, even though we were talking before, I am a Bond person. And I really love the Connery.

It's like even like some of the Roger Moore's controversial opinions on Trausman, which we can get to a later date. But we're getting into it in this pod. But this to me is the best version of the form. I mean, it corrected what I think the franchise and I'm not a Bond person.

Never did appropriately for me, which is explain who this person is. And I didn't grow up with Bond movies. My parents were not fans of the Bond films. And so when I went back to try to go see them, and you know, we were completely just trying to watch everything chronologically.

And there's no backstory. And this is how Bond becomes Bond. I think I'm intentionally ambiguous in the old ones. You didn't know that much about him, but he was super cool.

He could get any lady he wanted. He could solve any issue that existed. And he could always win a fight. But that was really all we knew.

I was never huge. I grew up with Roger Moore once. Yeah. And what was the outer space one?

That's Moon Raker. Moon Raker. Moon Raker was good. And Jaws was a great villain.

And they were also always on when I was a kid. Because we just had less IP that felt modern, but it always felt like the Connery ones were on. So watch them. But I never loved them, but I was like them.

And then it just felt like the franchise died in the 80s and 90s in a lot of ways. They had a Timothy Dalton one. He couldn't get the job because they wouldn't let him leave Remington Steel. And then he did four, which I forgot.

I felt like he done like two or three. Successful movies. And I think that they had the same narrative. Like when Brosnan came in, it was exactly what you were saying.

It was like finally Pierce Brosnan can play the role he was born to play. But he arrived at a time when the movies needed to keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and sillier. And so he actually didn't get a chance to fully, I don't know, kind of like redeem or rebuild the franchise. The first Brosnan we got like a lot and they can't get progressively worse in my opinion.

The best Pierce Brosnan James Bond movie is The Time of Grand Affair, which is not a James Bond movie. But in 1999, I remake another of my all-time faves. And it gets him in fancy locations and being like suave. And he doesn't have to do as much action.

You want Pierce Brosnan as like a jewel thief or like a high-class business man. You don't want him as James Bond. I don't need to feel like James Bond can kick somebody's ass. I don't know if you felt like it went to fight.

What was interesting about the end of Craigwin is basically you have the born identity. I forget when the born starts like 0, 2, 3 range. Ethan Hunt is now like 10 years in basically. And this feels more like those kind of movies.

And I actually think it's probably a higher end of those kind of movies because I felt like Bond just felt like more of a character than me. Ethan Hunt, you know, whatever. He's like, you don't really know his background. They try to do a bit of the Cruz fog over at the whole time.

And then born is intentionally, like he doesn't know he is. I think this movie, because in a while it was a huge, a huge, I mean, you can see the fact that they realized that they needed to scale down and make the kind of like bare knuckle of daniel Craig approach was going to make much more sense for this kind of contemporary movie moment. In part, I think because Ethan Hunt was doing big 10 stunts better than Bond could in like a less cartoonish way in a more thrilling way. So it was logical that they arrived at this.

And then there's also like why they tell the story to. Right. I do think in Bond's defense, like born identity was a little bit like what we had in Bond without silliness and people just came out of it. And they were like, okay, locations and they're having like genuine romance and then people are just punching each other.

And it's sick. But it is very true that then the born franchise informs this in a great way. They're in the dark times of the pandemic, which I think we talked about the rewatch was before we use movies and escape to go places because we weren't allowed to go anywhere. This was like, oh, let's watch this because we got to go this place.

It's like the same little Y movie is like that. Yeah, it's going to go with that. I'm saying that for now and a half. It's like, great.

I can't leave my house. This sounds awesome. I'm tired of walking up and down my street with my dog. So I get to go away.

This is a particularly good one. I would say like pound for pound location wise. I don't know if you can do better than this. Monaco is top three, top two movie location.

Absolutely beautiful. I never been. I'd like to go. I would like to go to the Lake Como resort that is featured towards the end.

That's a really I think you actually can go. I have friends who sent me a picture from somewhere on Lake Como. That was location. I don't know if they got to stay in the hotel.

The Ocean Club, another place. Same friends out there. Yeah, beautiful. It's like white lotus crosswood James Bond.

I would say from a location standpoint, you can't do better. No, it's nice to go to the farm has that moment where they're just in same parts. It's like, well, we're in same parts. Yeah, it's great.

Yeah, it's sexy. A little Randy. We'll talk about the end of Craig in a second. I'm going mad because of first.

Wow. Unbelievable. It's like him and Hans Gruber in the fucking pie. Whatever you want to do for movie villains.

I don't know what else he could have brought to the table. He had basically a Hitler haircut. He had a bleeding scar. I think he had one of the best.

Like low like mouth-dropping evil smiles that you could possibly do. You just look at him and you want to punch him in the face. It looks like he could get a whole army of terrible people behind him and just take over countries. I don't know what else he would get from a villain.

But also still playing it a little bit subtle. I mean, the thing with Bond villains over time, it's basically like a shorthand for someone just going too far. You know, and also not really having a plan. It's always like someone who needs to defeat the world with a shark tank.

I mean, it became Dr. Evil in the awesome powers movie very famously. So he's still just a kind of guy who's giving money to terrorists and is pretty quiet and is like maybe lucky at booger. Which I know you guys will talk about.

It's gonna be a Q&A session. If you want to leave, we'll do the first time. And after we do, thanks so much. I appreciate that offer.

But he is never milking it. He's doing the archetypal bond villain in a way that isn't like Harry. But that's Hans Grouber. Same thing, Hans Grouber was like played it pretty subtle for a while.

And then when he got mad, you're like, oh, Hans Grouber's mad. Yeah, I think scaling down the character's intention and even job was really smart. Because as you said, this series again, the Daniel Crater is again, gets to a kind of international conspiracy. Kind of like kind of ruined these movies when you talk about a little bit.

But Matt's also like a banker. I mean, that's his role. He's just not that complicated trying to understand what he's trying to do, which is he's just filtering money from one awful, you know, insurrectionist group to another across the world, but also gambling on the stock market. Like it's kind of hilariously on character despite the fact that Matt Nicholson seems like pure evil.

Well, it's like four and a half years after 9-11. And this is like the first wave of films that are like acknowledging 9-11 and 9-11 is a little bit of a pot. Or in some cases, like World Trade Center where it's the entire movie. But in this movie, you know, there's some good conspiracy stuff at this point about all the people who profited from 9-11 and what happened and what didn't happen on that.

And this movie just goes for it. And they're like, oh, yeah, he made all his money from short basically shorting it and on 9-12 he cleaned up. And you hear that in 2006, like, oh, this guy's evil. Okay.

I don't need any more information than this. It's a great point. It's like a most evil thing you could have done. It was profited off of that moment.

Yeah, it's a smart way to frame and like lower the stakes while keeping them incredibly high emotionally morally, while not being, you know, robotic piranhas in a tank. And that's the other key point with this. It's the awesome powers that kind of ruined James Bond a little bit because it was a parody movie of other James Bond's, but in the process I also pointed out some of the ridiculous self-parody stuff that Bond movies. So they had that.

They're trying to figure out. They're trying to figure out how do we keep up with more information than possible. Can you give us the 35 second history of Matt Nicholson? Sure.

Danish actor is probably best known for roles around the world. He was recently in another round, which won the international feature of the Academy Awards. He's worked at Tom's Winterberg with a handful of times. He's worked at Nickelodeon, a half year director's handful of times.

He's worked with Rihanna. I come on a podcast. I interviewed him once. He's incredibly smart guy.

He is a classic. He reminds me a lot of German actors from the 56 and 70s in American movie. They were with the villain in their home country. They were with the hero.

And he's a really talented leading man who, through our eyes, I think he looks slightly demonic, which he says more about American audiences than English audiences than it does about the Danish audiences. I want Tom as Nicholson, a stable woman at a party. So if you're in the United States, just to defend him a little bit. He plays the villain beautifully, but this woman was having a hard time, too many drinks.

And as Nicholson just stepped in from the side to save the day and make sure everything was okay. Very lovely guy. So where would you put him in the villain pantheon? Well, in the bottom pantheon, he's pretty high.

I think his chief is very memorable. And it's also, he's not, this is it for him. You know, spoiler alert, he dies in this movie. And so we get to hold onto his run in a very compact way.

Because of all that was quite interesting. And he's kind of overdid it a little bit. So I think because we just have this one movie with his iconic performance, he's basically in four scenes, all those scenes are thrilling. And then we're done with him.

So I think he's really high in the bond rankings. Same for me. I mean, once you have, like, Lofeld and they got it, they had to come up with another plan, you know, involving like more missiles from space or whatever. You're like, okay, relax.

He's way ahead of the guy from Toy Soldiers. 2006, we met you with a big reboot where Pierce Brosnan wanted $30 million to be in bond, and they were like, cool, 53, we're gonna move on now. The hired Daniel Craig, who, you know, he was a guy, but not really a guy. 2001 and 2005, who's in the Lara Croft movie?

Who's in the rotation? 2003, Sylvia and the mother. These are only Sean Croft. He's one of them.

He's one of them. He plays Ted Hughes. Was that one timer? I can't remember, like, when I wanted to spend time with the Sylvie Platt movie, but it definitely happened.

That's a really valid point. Yeah. Sure. But also, now that Daniel Craig is playing, I'm gonna say roll in that one.

He's in Layer Cake and 04. Layer Cake and 04. Yeah. That's, this was the live audition for James Bond.

Yeah. And also the live audition for more scaled down James Bond. That was also the, I'm gonna talk to my broker about buy-in somewhere, Daniel Craig. Totally.

Absolutely. Who's this guy? Then he's in the jacket. He's in Munich.

Important for this thing as well. Yeah. You could argue that if you switch roles and he's the lead in Munich, is it a better movie? I think so.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's in the foreign circles.

Yeah. He was like this guy's on the come up for sure. He was already in his 30s. He was a kid at this point and I think there was a maturity to him too, that might have disqualified him.

I was thinking about who's next month is gonna be now and I don't know if he wanted to have that conversation. But a lot of the people that are talking about are 27 and not just too young. I agree. I want to ask Amanda, because I think she likes the series the most out of the three of us.

What do you want from James Bond? Do you want to be in a mystery? Do you want to be in a mystery? Do you want to be in a condo?

What are you looking for? I'm a man of mystery. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And maybe this is my programming and the movies that I grew up watching, but for a man to be truly compelling, talk less, you know? It's sort of the DeNera school. So Craig is bringing that.

I mean, Dan, Craig. A little bit. You know, Craig, producer Craig, if you want. Has that feeling only deep in as you spend more time talking to men on podcasts that you want men to talk less?

The things that you guys all venerate, all the guys who just show up and don't say anything. It's a cool way. Yeah. Like if you were words in a movie that better for you and also for my father.

So it's just all the influences coming together. Does Bond have to be non-American for you? Like an Adam Driver be James Bond. No.

Like Ryan Gosling have been James Bond. Oh, Ryan Gosling. He got that weird GQ cover. Whatever the hell he got there with that.

He still has the hair. He's just letting it shine. All right. So no one Ryan Gosling.

No, because Ryan Gosling's appeal and Ryan Gosling is very appealing to me as well. But it's in like the charm and the talkiness. And you just, you need some sort of distance from James Bond to believe that he can, you know, because he's not going to stick around. He's going to go in and be foreign, I think.

Yeah. Well, it would throw me out. Like if Jake Gyllen had been James Bond. There's a lot of discussion over the years about this.

We've had a Scottish Bond. We've had an Australian Bond. And Irish Bond. And Irish Bond.

We haven't. Could Colin Farrell have been James Bond? No, but that's just because Colin Farrell seems like a great Hank. I love James Bond.

I don't know if he's a great Hank. What about my advice Colin Farrell? I wouldn't say that guy is a great Hank. I wouldn't say that guy is a great Hank.

You want to be like a Cuban bull rider back? Yeah. Is Daniel Craig a dirtbag in this movie? It's kind of borderline, right?

I think this shows how he officially becomes a dirtbag in a way. It's the turn of this room for him to become the ultimate cynical spy. He has also, before he meets Vesperlin. You know, seducing married women.

And then, or should he have been a caviar for a while and a bouncy to go meet someone at the bodies of it in Miami? Were you out on seducing married women? Like, is that immoral? Hey, the 2000s, I think it was more of a thing.

Yeah. For you or the forever? Everyone. Yeah.

2006. I let you just say it was different back then. 2006. Really splashing movie here.

I think I forgot. In the moment, I remember being disappointed. Like, oh, man, movies are going the wrong way. But now I look back.

This is just the box office for that. You're going to have your pyres for the Caribbean Deadman's chest and cars and X-Man and division code and superman's and returns. All those. But you also have Casino Royale.

You have Tal Dagnites. You have a lot of people who are at Devil Wears Prada that are parted inside man. It's just an elite family. It was amazing.

It was amazing. You have broke back mountain that year. You have the Miami Vice movie. You have Fast and Furious 2.

You have Little Miss Sunshine. It just keeps going. Have you done Little Miss Sunshine every once in a while? Together with that friend.

I've always wanted to. I never feel like. I remember talking about it. It just needs to be out.

I don't feel like he likes the movie. Okay. Who do you want to be on? I don't know.

I need to find people who like Little Miss Sunshine. I love that movie. It was a slightly better time. It was at the beginning of when things were starting to turn.

You just mentioned the top 10 movies that you're at all, like the movies. Yeah. Also, we are in the, we have a little too much CGI in our live stage of movies and this movie made a specific decision. Let's go back to our roots.

More sense. It's a great point. This movie in general is a great example of how you can still operate in a world where there's like a franchise that people don't understand, but make a quality version of it. You know, not just, you know, have a vision, have an idea, have a sense of what the audience is ready for and how to redefine what the franchise is.

Phenomenal plot, as we mentioned. Basically, evil financial guy makes money on 9-11. He wants to run it back with another tragedy. Bond foils it.

Now we're playing poker. It teases at who's behind all this, but it doesn't spend too much time focusing on that because there is, there's greater power in the mix, but you don't really know what it is. There's some history. There was a TV episode called Casino Royale that had Bond in the shift.

There was this 1967 movie that was a parody with Sowers and Woody Allen and all that, but for the most part. Do you want to get any of that? Well, this is the way it is. You want to do it?

Yeah. I mean, it's interesting because it's the first Fleming book. This is the first James Bond story in 1953. And the rights to this story have been not in the hands of the folks that the broccoli and saltman company that has, you know, dictated what the Bond franchise is going to be in the movies for a long, long time.

And there have been many people who have been wanting to make Casino Royale the 1967 version. It does technically feature David Nimmin's James Bond, but it's more the parody of a James Bond movie. It has like five directors. It's a very odd film.

But for whatever reason, they just could never get Casino Royale off the ground. And this movie, I feel like it's a critical movie in 21st century films because MGM gets the rights of this movie from Sony by trading the rights to Spider-Man. And so all of the Spider-Man movies that we've gotten. And there was a Spider-Man.

That's just a straight up deal. They didn't throw in a first round. I was going to ask you about that. What's that good trade for these two movies?

It's really 10 minutes in. You've already turned into my James Bond guy. I think Sony won because we only have five Bond movies. Spider-Man has become arguably the most important character in movies in the 21st century in terms of pure box office.

We just talked about Spider-Man movie that's coming out this weekend. So I think that's only one of the trade. But that's great. It was very beautiful images.

Here's I feel about Bond. Actually, the rare underutilized franchise. I think for what the IP is and what it meant. No, I'm almost out of the 1854 demo.

But I still feel like it had outside as impact and importance. And you think like, so Bond would be a one for me. Star Wars is like a 10 for their just milking way too much Star Wars content now. They're kind of reading it.

But they're not milking Bond enough. For instance, Amazon spent $300 million on the Citadel show that nobody liked and seemed like they just suddenly got fired. But why not spend $700 million on a James Bond series? Or do you like James Bond's son?

Or is there different ways to grab the IP or no? It definitely is. And it's a really good question. If you compare James Bond Spider-Man, there have been 10 Spider-Man movies made in the last century.

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Just five minutes later. The 21st century. Well. That Romanian vary from such.

But you guys have spent the last 18 months just crying out stories. My perspective. Now we're not actually right now. We're adding things every year.

** going to embed me into nowhere. And refer to that as human feelings. example over the songs and many surreales of stop. It felt like an event.

It was like, holy shit, they're rebooting bond. I have a bond movie, can I thish? I wouldn't feel like, oh my God, can we? I don't even remember what the last bond movie was.

No time to die. It was two years ago. I think if they basically wait two plus years, and we get into late 25, late 26, it'll be an event again. It'll be a new bond.

What are they going to do differently? The mistake they made in trying to, or not trying to explain the library is the whole world, like, danger to genshoot, denture kills it in this movie. But just this whole world of like, how do you become a double O? Right.

Well, it just has all really, really wants this. We bought MGM, they basically said, getting the opportunity to exploit the James Bond world is part of what I wanted. Yeah. Yeah.

Directed by Martin Johnson, screenplay by Neil Pervis, Robert Wade, and then Paul Haggis came in at a really hot time of his career from outside these days, but he wrote the last post-crash, right? Yeah. He wrote the last 30 minutes or so. Okay, Raj.

Oh, 150 million dollar budget made 650 million. So they're okay. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Raj, four stars for Raj. Absolutely. He spent on fire in 2023.

Congrats, relatedly. He said, Craig makes a superb bond who gives the sense of a hard man wounded by life in his job, who never less cares about people and right and wrong. That's a really good description of me. And he says, a hard man.

The answer is wounded by life in his job. All the answers to all the complaints about the 45-year James Bond series, specifically, why nobody in the bottom of everything has any real notions. Yeah. See, I grew in 2006.

This was perfect. And still a reinvention. It comes a year after Batman Begins. Is that right?

It's before Iron Man, which you and Bandit recently were talking about it as an origin story. Yeah. You know, that necessarily has stakes in a motion. And now we sit through an origin story like every five minutes and they're like four in every episode of something and you got it.

Somebody has a trauma and somebody else has a trauma. And why do we all feel this way? And it feels stale. But in 2006, it was like, yes, thank you.

This feels new and amazing. And it's also not too much emotion. That's the other thing. I can't stand with people who do the origin trauma stories.

Except for when we did on Cramper vs. Cramper. We watch most of these. We watch most of these.

That was legitimate. I was a great person. I was a great person. I thank you.

The framer was just a bang on me. We watch most of these episodes. We're going to take a break and do most of these episodes. Okay.

Alright, most of these. The construction fight scenes is incredible. And I don't understand why there aren't more fights on construction sites. I'm just pairing.

I watch most of these movies. But in the first scene, she's just a bunch of, oh, how do they do this? Whoa. It is an A plus action set.

Oh my god. director who did direct Golden Eye and so he knew the Bond franchise but you know Golden Eye is a bigger movie yeah but he himself who made the two Zora movies with Antonio Banderas and he's been a bunch of really good kind of mid-tier action movies out there as a foreigner but Jackie Chanan and here's Rosin is awesome at practical action he is like one of the best living directors at these kinds of stuff he says and he nailed this. It's when the the free runner of the parkour you know Paris throws the gun at a bond and I know it's coming. I like when people fight on perilous yeah things where it's like either there's no way you can just fall after right through your death but you also have to plan for a bunch of the only works of movies but it's really convincing it's and the guy who he's chasing might be the greatest athlete of all time yeah I don't know who it was but I don't know why the Giants didn't sign him right now.

I don't know why the women on it's kind of the same guy he's just diving through stuff he's jumping 20 feet amazing and it seems and you know in the research it backed it up it seems like real stunts like it jumps now there's a bad blind wave. Do we get really really tough? I don't think we're just hating on yeah maybe the HDTV is getting better in the wiring. Well there's a length issue it's you know Daniel Craig has a pretty close talk about the movie and that it's like Trumpian.

The guy's Dave is a bastion who kind of the territory. I think he's like one of the founders of parkour I was gonna say parkour for what age the best but like what a moment for parkour. Wow I thought it's him and Alton from the real world are the two greatest athletes I've ever seen. I also like where they have when they set the fight scene up with somebody going I need him alive.

Oh it's like oh boom this will be good. This guy's dying. Yeah this guy's not only is this guy dying but oh my god our heroes are getting so much trouble with this guy. I'm putting this in as a rewatchable scene not for me but for the sound of my wife made when Daniel Craig came out of the water and she goes oh my god that's my one shock or no.

That's my one shock or no. I think about it all time. I think about it every time like I see anyone coming out of the water it's the blues beat I was really made an impression on me. It made an impression on the lady with the white horse on the beach and click away right in the horse around.

Is that something you can do in the Bahamas just rent a white horse? She's very wealthy so she's very wealthy. They lived on the beach and have a house. I think that our you know terrorist husband is funding the upkeep of that horse.

What the horse is we'll poop anywhere. Not a great animal for the beach and it's a lot of poop. That was your first one huh? So him stepping out of the water is he too yoked?

No I think it's good. It's literally not wrong with you. So this guy is no. He was perfect.

He's actually like the only he's like a perfect yoke. Everyone who is dying to like vlog and cut and do all these things like this is the movie. That scene like producer Craig when he's coming out of the water it's perfect. That's the human form.

It's like a Greeks at you but I became a big a big thing with the movie. Yeah, I came out of it. Jesus bond. We're going here now Yeah, I feel like you never saw Pierce Brosnan's lower torso It was always like you have his shirt open in bed and you see the chest hair, but you never saw I mean It's basically a maximaxing cover shoot.

Yeah coming out of the ocean. Yeah, okay It was a little mad for the bond fans who personally interest is one of the 12th So you get people like that and then in the Dean of Craig says now He didn't realize at the time he would be haunted by it for the rest of my life. Okay. I love it Okay, but I don't think he wanted to be I can relate to that kind of Like about you really hard to be that attractive first poker scene we get to the valet where he wins the car.

Oh, yeah And then the lady that's the circle and it's like, okay, we're here is really good. Um, the dumbass guy could we're gonna get to later Who's a weak link in the movie? What's his name? Oh, Alex amitrios?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, great guy. Yeah, great guy. Yeah, not great But he goes all in with Kings with an ace on the table Sean.

Um, yeah I mean, it's one of the dumbest poker moments in movie history. It's completely a lot like Oh, yeah, I had this thing at all. Yeah, I had this thing on the river and things he nailed it with an ace on the board Well bond is is checking him all the way down. I mean, this is like this is 101 poker.

This is like dumb shit I can show you it's not because I don't know what you're talking about, but I was gonna ask I'll ask you now because it's German to the scene seems like there are just a lot of high cards in these hands Is that always they're doing the greatest hits of the best hands right because they're for four hours I really didn't like this part of the movie because this is coming on the heels of not just rounders like the Right, yeah post Chris money makers when everybody's watching the world series of poker. Yes. Yeah, it's a huge moment for poker This exact year. I went on a poker cruise to reward a story It was no it was for complex.

I actually never wrote the story. That's a whole other story Actually not bad but I was covering the tournament that was happening on the cruise. Yeah, I think that I look back What you just said read me which is just highlights of the best hands. Yeah, it's a little recap If I'm ever on a cruise at any point in my life a much later, okay, where it's like oh, yeah Here's Bill was apparently on a cruise.

Okay, just assume there's like some some new redstone shit going on In my life who were like manipulating me and drug me and I don't know Because I'll never go on a cruise. So somebody is up to something bad with the worst intentions for me next scene Oh, by the way forgot when he goes. Oh in the valley ticket after he's a guy such a fucking that's like a film of The body worlds who knew this place existed I did because I like to the exhibit the south streets report because it was a traveling exhibit Throughout the 2000s. It's like it's really weird It's just like a museum about human anatomy and so they just have different bodies with like tissues and you go look at them And you're just like wow, that's a look at that nerve.

That's really cool. It's a very strange thing I don't think I didn't realize until I saw the rehearsal that this was those were actually real dead bodies Which I don't think it ever happened before in a movie. Is that true? Yeah, that's the whole thing.

There's all real dead bodies That's gross. Will you dedicate your corpse to a museum exhibit? Okay, yeah, it's because of all the brain power I'm just entering in a letter box movie, but it's just The airport fight it's like a B plus compared to the other stuff and here But it's so fun and we get to see bond fighting a guy in a car Which I always love people fighting cars. It's so stupid you just wouldn't be able to get any sort of leverage running punch You just end up like strangling each other the movies It's like punch I get punch punch and it's like now you're right next to him But him vaulting himself into the cars and also in there's good action stuff Then him swerving the car at the last minute and pulling up guys out Bond meets Vesper on a train play by Eva Green, our queen What are you listening to?

About you miss me? I'm going to be using a problem. You worry you won't take me seriously Which one can save any attractive woman part of me? True but this one over compensates by wearing slightly masculine clothing Be more aggressive than every male colleague's Which was somewhat prickly demeanour And I rightly enough makes it less likely for her to be accepted and promoted by her male superiors And mistake her insecurities for arrogance Now I'd have normally gone without any child But um, you see by the way with more the quick about your parents I don't know how to get with the wolfin All right By the cut of your suit you went to Oxford or whatever And actually think you were being stressed like that But you weren't such a stank My guess is you didn't come from me And your school friends never let you forget it Which means you were at that school by the grace of some else's charity Hence the chip on your shoulder And since you first thought about me rent an orphan That's what I'd say you want This is an all-timeer I'm gonna have to go with Orphan This has a little courting dialogue ends But this is a really well written scene I don't know if this is one of all haggos scenes But the little sparring with both of them for four minutes is really elite Yeah, this is really elite writing And really well acted, they have great chemistry Incredible And on the airplane she set the seat with the TV on on on fire And they had to squirt the guy to another seat Because this is pretty much about fire Because that's how great she looked Evelyn, give us a history of her show She's a French actor raised in an American school And so she speaks many languages And she's just like a world-class mocha I don't know what else you want me to say She does a good actually I don't understand her first films I'm like a movie, her second film is about a movie I mean she got her start and he's very interesting Kind of international cinema She's very, very gifted But she has spent the last 20 years making a lot of French movies This is her first foray into those kinds of movies I would welcome that wholeheartedly I would just like the dramatization of her recent legal battle Which involved her trying to get out of a contract For one of the bad movies that she's been chained to And then inevitably the text messages were distributed as discovery And it's just integrating like this is bullshit All of this I don't think they're so bad No, but in a way that makes you like her And she's got the edge and she has the edge in this movie And it seems like that's true That's a big picture segment called Better Agent Where you're just like, what are you doing?

Better Agent You're like five years You need new representation It really doesn't matter who her agent is She's doing everything right She's really, I mean they're so dynamic together That you can make the case that This kind of screws up This franchise a little bit Because it makes this like a mortal wound for Bond Which is logical because she's so keenly They're so great together But I just want her back I want her back in these movies She's gonna come back Gotta say she got resuscitated later We just didn't see it I love that so much too hours after I drowned it I like train scenes They were just in general So my time in a train is to get his job at the worst That's how you drive the train That's nice Wow Second big poker scene Wait, do you ever meet a new green on the train? You were getting never Wait a minute Every time Yeah By the way, these are gotta be the two hottest Like money managers in movie history Right, Mads, Mcgreens That's basically their jobs She works with treasury I mean sure He's a tea trade stock every day I mean she's spoilers She's an accountant But a set up A bit of a delay Yeah Second big poker scene Which really just is Bond gets beat Oh no Bond doesn't get beat But realizes he gets the guy's tail But he orders a martini Drum martini Let me see Wait Can I just go on the block I'll make the king of the neck Check it out right now I think so much about it Yes You know I have one of those It's so bloody It's not that many Just fucking rattles it off That's like this is the James Bond I want it right here Like a five part martini order I'm pleased to make a personal announcement Yeah I have made a pivot in my life You're away from round liquor to martinis Wow This transpire in England And then I work in England together We can have a go When he's talking about Can I call him Sadie Jerry Maybe it's a tribute to Jerry We thought He was Jerry's right now No it's okay I didn't know until the internet We thought it was a little round about Jerry Thank you In retrospect Makes a lot of sense Obviously And frankly Having had few martinis in England They make a lot of sense too You just had one I too actually I remember Yeah Joe House made the move About say 10 years ago And just started going dirty martini And it really fit him And it was great And I was really happy for him I think there should be an announcement Almost like a wedding announcement Or a birthday I'm now a martini guy Okay June 16 I think this is my thing now Always gin Not vodka gin I don't have a preference I think she can probably Okay Shakin Where do you go? Where do you go? You have a martini Shakin Or sir He does within later on Well that's a nice nod To Shakin Not sir Which is historical And that's when he's like Look I give a damn Must have been a Jack and Coke Yeah For fun It's a growing up moment Of a Jack and Coke No straw Um The stairway fight Is Really good Really good Yeah I have some questions about Those guys' strategy Those two terrorists Cutting somebody's arm off basically As a threat Oh mono Yeah But not really And in general Just almost killing someone As a means to get money back I mean I guess it was scary But I don't know what they're doing Yeah It's a little more heroin I think it is something Like these movies Especially the Craig movies And I'm really well which is like I think the bank ole plays Obano, the Ugandan terrorist And he's another like world-class actor who's in Clarity movies And they just cast him for two scenes And when he's going to chop somebody's arm off And he's great He's very attractive Third poker scene Has the misread of the tell Mm-hmm It's four checks Here's an issue for it Wings Uh A new fifth one was bluffing Is Please We now break for one hour No we don't So The cards we see are Jack King Ace Jack King So there's two Jacks and two kings on the table And Ace Bond has Ace King So he's got a full house king high Pretty good hand The only thing that's going to beat him Two Jacks, which gives him four Jacks Which is basically impossible Like you met your fucking unicorn at that point I've been at the table since he had a few four times But very few It's very rare It's four of a kind It's like holy shit I can't believe I still have a four Four of a kind played down to the river And that's like the thing With the reverse of the card Um Mads Mcgarden has a tendency to play to the fifth card He has four Jacks before we see the last card Oh I see If you have four Jacks before we see the last card You'll probably start and get a little aggressive It's hard to- We can't get a real feel for his game I wouldn't say I was impressed by this I'll always get a little out there Because you want to try to get some money before the seventh card Exactly Um Anyway uh Four Jacks I didn't mind it It's okay I think it's still- It's interesting that it's still unclear Who gave the tell To Bonn I had that as a flon moving I think it was the bearded guy He was Mathis And not He could be Mathis Because he could be Mathis Bonn kind of means it a bit Who gives him the wrong one?

Who tells the shift that Bonn has a five half Which then he's really strong Yeah yeah yeah Doesn't he say later that it was Mathis? But he actually was It might have been We don't know Which answer, you know Where's Percine Or she tells someone else who tells the shift We don't know My next scene is Bonn gets poisoned That's- It's really good That's just an awesome four minute scene It's a little reminiscent of Pulp Vixian Like just a whiff of the- Interesting yeah A whiff of the- I got a good single time Right Well I- It's also kind of thing that you don't see in any other Bonn movie There's no comparison to me Like obviously Bonn is in peril in many movies But not like this It's like chaotic shaky hand cam Or just stumbling out of the hotel The filming is very different in Bonn movies The climactic poker scene We'll come back to him And then uh The water fight And the inventors That's what I have for the rewatch was I'm assuming Well it's more of a long shot But the shower scene The shower scene I don't know what it's a bad scene You need things like that Yeah Yeah So not the torture scene I don't love- I mean I don't love torture scenes But that one I can't- I can't tell is he hitting Bonn in the balls Yes Yes Yeah That's why they cut the bottom of the chair up I- I- I guess the worst torture movie ever I completely agree Absolutely messed up I thought that's what was happening It was a little unclear But regardless Like I just feel like it would pass out I think it's a- Well I watched the rewatch was with my wife last night And she turned to me during the scene She was like is this- The most- The worst imaginable torture for you And I said yes Like a pain? Okay I think about the nut tap Is more profound than breaking an arm? Karthin So- Me and Matt are- Sure, yeah, go on, I got it Yeah, I know Fall ball right in the crotch Referest has to be passed out of the field Okay So that's my bar for- I just feel like you passed out But here's what we learned here That Karthin Fisk is a weak baby And J.S.

Gonna be unfair I don't love the torture scene The water fights fine But for me it's a connected poker scene What do you have? Trancing Trancing, yeah I love the opening actions That he's the chase through- You know what you're probably- You know what you're probably- Trancing is amazing So cool All right, let's talk about the poker scene First of all, Bonne's Jordan Flugam here Yeah Coming back off, we're getting poisoned And immediately just orchestrating Like the hand of all time We see ace of hearts And we see ace of six, four, and ace of spades Ace of spades is the last card So we know somebody's gonna have a flush At the very least We know flush is in play But we also have two aces on the table So there's some good poker thing We have four people staying in the hand Pretty unusual Well, the flush possibility makes it clear That there's a lot of action on the table The flaw in the scene You're not a flaw necessarily What I struggle with in the scene He doesn't have a flush, he's got two pair And he's playing down the board When he knows it's two other guys at least Or pushing towards a flush The last card is ace of spades We already have three spades on the table He's basically got an ace and a six So he's got two pair Yeah And he knows at this point Somebody's So what's Lishik doing? He's got $40 million in front of him And he's playing down To the end of his hand With action three other players He's a huge fan He's fucked up So the Asian guy has King queen spades So that gives him basically a high straight So he's got a high flush He's got an ace high flush He's got an ace high flush He's 99 out of 100 times He'd be like, I'm dominating That's why I'm so happy The big guy has two aids Out of nowhere Now he's got a full house Because he's got full house Eight high with two aids So the Asian guy's like, what the fuck? I thought I had this I'm mad to sit in there With his dumb ace six They never should have stayed in the hand Who now he has a full house ace high Which wins every time Except Bond As a straight flush The straight flush beat Four of a kind of camera Now, four of a kind beats everything I think of oil flush Is the strong fan Straight flush is like third best hand you could have So Bond's sitting on five seven So he has it before we see the last card Go back, I don't even know Does the straight flush beat four of a kind?

No, oil flush beats everything Oil flush beats everything I think a straight flush might be four of a kind I don't even know Like I have a full house I have five eights I mean this couple is something like me Who is familiar with the poker term We had this a couple times We had this a couple times Yeah, great That's position I mean, that's what his tell is It means I'm just like, all right For my wife, that was super helpful Yes, I mean, what do you want to know again? What's the hierarchy of best cards? It goes real flush, straight flush, four of a kind Oh, so straight flush, four of a kind Oil flush, straight flush, four of a kind Okay, yeah, that makes sense So what he had would have been Anything except a real flush So Bond has He has the straight flush Before we get to the last card Yes And he's down playing it And just like, oh yeah, I think I'm in Whatever, but I thought he should maybe got a little bit more aggressive too I disagree I think he played perfectly He's like, obviously 150 He's got a little bit of money on the table Did he get a fifth spade on the turn? I think he got it on the flop He got it on the second last card That's what I mean on the turn So he gets it on the turn Which then once you get it, you can't You can't bet into that Like you have to just see what the table is doing He's also in position, he's on the button Like he's in the best box, he's on the last But I thought it was a lot better Yeah, that's great You guys say it's a good hand I don't, my biggest complaint is They don't linger on all the cards on the table Long enough, like you really need And maybe they Perfect for a podcast like this to break it down I think it's a theater really hard to keep track of I think on the board on the turn On the flop He's holding 5-7 and 6-8 of spades is on the board And so you had an open-ended straight flush draw Is that his sex?

Like that's your magic If you're wearing it, you win And you're also just flush drawing So it's like you're probably an ideal flush It is magic Like I Sean's tell us if he has that situation No, I'm actually my body just shuts down I'm just trying not to cry Have you guys played poker together very often? I don't think we have Never have No, we can't accept each other Honestly You've played them the same time You've played them the same time You've played them the same time You've played players You've played poker You've played them really well I know, but you don't know each other's poker Whenever you're second guessing Like, is he doing this? Is he doing that? Yeah, but I'm not doing that for a reason I'm trying to do this But I would be too interested in just playing against Bill instead of playing against the table Which is a mistake That would be a mistake But you don't know what you're talking about Don't even move I don't even do anything That's a weak tell This guy's like a multimillion He's like a multi-millionaire He's got a very bad What we tell, we should have written some more intricate That's the problem with the movies It's accessible I will say I think he makes the second best I can't believe I'm lost I'm so fucked Poker movie face I've ever seen That's The best is still Damon When he gets losing the beginning rounders Like you can see his soul leave his body But this is probably really good It's a good scene though I have more poker thoughts later Can I see one question?

Yes How do you guys feel about Felix later? Staking him As a storytelling moment I didn't love it You mean within the realm of poker I don't know poker, I get Is that bad? Is that rude? It's a little weird It's just a little weird It's kind of kind of kind of nowhere It doesn't really pay off We don't really pay off We don't really pay off Okay All right, we do what's a best Let's take another break All right, we'll take the best We'll go quickly We mentioned Eva Green We mentioned the plot The Dame herself She really dead Absolutely She's throwing heat She's great She's great Who would be a better Like maybe Helen Mirren?

I don't know They're always No I think Helen Mirren Like it brings like a sexy element And she's doing that sort of in a fast franchise Yeah Sort of dimension I love Helen Mirren But this is the same duty One thing I love Is that they replace her Effectively later in these films As she dies with Ray Fine's And he also was phenomenal in the Bonne films The locations we mentioned 19-6 for Aston Martin Good to see that one The concept of a British Am I officer being assigned double zero status Which gives you a license to kill Just good premise Great Like you're now double zero You have a license to kill Ian Fleming Was a naval service Officer who had access to naval intelligence And everyone says that This character is just him Kind of like Dream casting Yeah You know Like this is who he always wanted to be Villains with asthma They do this in case of death With Nick Cage too He's like his evil mob boss But has the inhaler But she has like a platinum inhaler too Like he had you know He had celebrated He had like to get the inhaler It was pretty incredible Mention Mads Do she lower lip growth face The 9-12 shortstop profiteer gimmick Just really good for him I like this is from escape from New York When you put the chip in your hero So you can track them Yeah Like what's going on here Ah that hurt Oh no we can track you Oh this is a gimmick I would have like to put Like a time sensitive chip Or it's like he's got a week Yeah Right Well we don't have to get that When you're doing Spotify We've got a chip And uh And then tracking us every week Yeah Quotes like I need them alive Take your ego out of the equation Quite the body count You're stacking up Just like Chex It just makes me think I will Probably write some of these movies Yeah I will just grab like 600 of these Quotes And just throw them out of the souffle It still is a Bond movie It still has the locations And uh over the top villain And the cliche phrases And sometimes they just like yada yada Whole like geopolitical situations Um it's like we'll work it out Right Because of the filming in the tone And I really think there are actual effects It just under it lets them get away With the other silliness You know it feels familiar But it works I like an action movie It's one of that guy goes to shoot someone It doesn't realize that the guy swishes going out Yeah What does that not work? So yeah we can talk about that opening The black and white getting him Doubles out of it It's good The first 20 minutes of this movie Really good Like you can come in at the start Oh yeah It's it's a it's a pretty It's a flawless movie I have some fun It's pretty high level Bond's talks is fantastic I don't know who made the talks But that thing's just elite They've agreed had a tailor for him Yeah that is a nitpick Yeah size you up But also got to see a lot of say their dinner jackets and dinner jackets Which is my favorite of the whole film Yeah I like having a guy on hand who could dispose of bodies Is that was good? Yeah Yeah You want those? I did Yeah It's a joke Yeah Amazing car accident Like amazing Oh with the car spinning Yeah I'm rolling it Yeah yeah yeah And integrating the coiling up Yeah They must've CGIed her in there But it really seems like It's real in the cars for the last second I can't not nitpick that scene I don't understand that Because why are they trying to kill her there?

When they need to get the money? Have they got the money? They got the money But she can be killed Right he can drive over And she has the account And he has a better way to just get Bond So I don't understand that scene She can't die there Well aren't they trying to Keep up the pretense of I don't know But she can't have the bond movie And she's okay She can't move back I mean that's a huge logical moment to me I have the bond music for what's age the best Because it always age the best It's okay It's really just great thing music What do you think of the Cornell song? I kind of had I didn't have the song as much as this weird era Of I called it slow metal rock music Movies because my device Michael Mann was just like Boom You got audio slave And all that fun to him So this is this is kind of the era of O506 where they really did lean into these songs For two years then I feel like it's a natural It was a nice recipe for Cornell Which is an amazing singer A natural kind of conclusion for him As an artist too Like obviously he's like a grunge grunge grunge metal singer Every time it all throughout The grunge era of the world This guy seems like an angel You know like It's such a beautiful voice It's such a high register He's like a balladier Not always It might be vice A couple of the best ones ever Wherever this weird genre was It's like not quite enough for a spot If I play less but some of them Yeah it's like Evanescen's core You know or there's like orchestral sounds in metal songs I was going to play one of my My songs but I think it would get us removed on YouTube And we're going to run this I was going to play one of my My song play later Okay thank you What else do you all have for What's the best?

I mean mostly we talk about Location and Sean over here Sometimes gets a little skeptical Of people going to Europe and filming things And I just this is the classic example Of when you go to Europe And build something it works It's a two track thing for me One I don't really care as much About going to places you guys do You know you guys are like Wow I went to It's like correct We're going to be That's fine I'm sorry We can't feel The second thing is I really hate when we do this But then it's only And it's as much more Common in the last 10 years Aerial shots Drone shots You never see the people's feet On the ground in the city They just like They place you in the city But then I'm fast at it's so bad About this but they show you all these Images of a city You never see characters in the city Because I don't think that they were there But they were there But this movie never seems fast And so Okay You'll never see it Never Never That's right That's right That's just It involves status I'm proud of you That's good I wish you didn't do it That's right I can't blame them because they've made three extra billion dollars Or you know what I did That shit happens But The ending of Fast 7 is so perfect Just a bit such a cool way to end it And then maybe wait six years And make another one I think they've gotten increasingly worse Anyway Anyway You think they've got an increase That's right Yeah Why is he 10? The 10 was appalling And Sean really felt hard I don't know I still don't understand that anyway What do you think was the best I mean I thought the Spider-Man trade was fascinating Yeah that's a good one And I also think That's the fun Marbury for chasing kid Just a whoa I think Two point I stole the words right out of a bit As well You more of a kid fan or a starberry fan What is the right answer to that? I'm sorry It was just the two best Point guards in the league Just got traded for each other Yeah but what would my answer to that be? I think you're probably more The Steph person Could be my guess What do you think?

I was trying to think of 1998 Gonna poucher just got traded For somebody who was exactly equal The Caitlyn Chet They just got traded for each other 98 Wow Okay yeah That's kind of terrible How do I just get traded? I know that word Just a career is traded I love the Spider-Man James Bond I think the other thing that was smart Was I think bringing purpose and way The screenwriters along as They are ultimately Kind of the authors of the James Bond Yeah It's just effective Everything works You know what's so great though? Like Every single one of these movies And these are not my favorite movies Every single one of these movies When Bond fires and the movie starts And you hear the dum dum dum dum dum Like every time that drops They bring it back at the end For like the coda When he And which says the next movie Which is like a little annoying But then music just swells And it's like oh Bond is back We did it The name's Bond James Bond Big Thunder Burger Web He's a food and drink The Dreamer team Of course Then at the he's spending honor words He's in location Wow Um We choose to be Michael The Bahamas or Venice But you got to make those finals And like Como Where he's doing the rehab Like those are some And Mr. Weitzville at the end Like Tomo It's spectacular But then you got like the Grand Canal And Venice For me it's Italy But I don't know if I can choose between the two So I've So you've gone to end Madagascar Off the table here Okay I think they use Venice the best I think they use Venice I think they use Venice It's not Monaco It's Montenegro It's Montenegro But they filmed it in the chocolate But they made it seem like it was Monaco It's kind of a Monaco stand I think it's in a reality It takes place in Monaco In the novel Yeah I thought we're in a ball game Yeah Montenegro So they interacted with the Venice then Yeah, I guess so The Ocean Cloud is a real hotel That you can go to In the Bahamas I have been Was it lovely?

One years ago Yeah, it was great Yeah, it was great Yeah, see there we go It seems like I was Kind of like San Antonio With better food I still would like to go Is that because of like What's it called? The River Walk? The River Walk? The River Walk?

That's what you see That's what you see That's really great Thank you I've never been to Venice Would you have a great check or no? Well, the bathing suit Obviously but then it's Another one where After the poker game Bond and Vesper Are having dinner And they're like in the corner Of that like the hotel splendid Yeah And okay, sure Thank you, thank you Mr. Bond And it just looks It's very beautiful And they're sitting in the corner And I would like to be them I think the first time we see Eva Green In a plunging neckline dress I was like This is a great film This is a great film making The Vincent Chase award for We sure this character was Actually good at his job The chef like What's going on? He just lost all your money And then it's like your move It's like I Hopefully I can win This high-stakes poker game On the B-minus poker player And then after that It's I'm just gonna try to erupt James Bond's nuts And then I'll find a way to get the money back Like I haven't He's completely lost it at that Point when he's in the torture scene What is he has a plan?

That's like a shot, obviously The butch is girlfriend aware For weak link of the film My wife demanded we put this in Okay Her quote James Bond is a fall in love In a week I completely agree They fell in love in like two Seconds He's like I love you It's like what? You hung out in a wet shower And you had a dinner together You're in love James Bond? Coolest guy in the world I was gonna fall down around Animal questions I would agree Like after he is rehabilitated But before they get to Venice There is one scene That's usually cut from cable Interestingly I've seen this many times With a little finger scene The no, that one's still And that's really nice A good for him Where they're just like Romping around Like on a medical bed Like they've been out So there's clearly some time Where he's like Mobile and walking around But still under medical supervision In his opulent late como area And also Evergreen is there And they are exploring They're feeling for one another If you will So it could be like two to three weeks I'm just saying Yeah, yeah, the time My question was gonna be How many times do we think that That's total? Well the medical staff had to come in And drain all the blood from his scrotum Four times a day Across my mind It was how much action was he really getting in the aftermath of the torture scene He's still in love So you cut him a little bit slack I think also In getting betrayed by Vesper Shows why he becomes the cat Of all cats around These movies Kind of reject that at the end Which we talk about Anyhow He says to her You don't have to tell Which is why I love you Which is the dumbest thing ever Because she's literally Making a face Like you should not trust me Right, she's talking When he's talking to her about that Like, you know Like, she's like, this is not gonna go well Yeah, she enters the VESPR As the password And she starts weeping Because she knows She has to betray him And he's just like What's wrong there?

He's still sad Easy weak link What stage to where What kind of name is Vesper? I can't make such a joke about it You know, I don't know I think it's kind of cool Could we call her like Angelina? Vesper is Latin for evening Right, Vesper is like I'm not having evening I don't think Vesper is hot I don't think Vesper is hot I don't think Vesper is hot I think Vesper is like oh I think Vesper is Latin for evening I think it almost literally translates to get late at night So pretty good for me Bon's not that what we mentioned He's not that what's great It's just a hair Bon will have to go all in To call his bluff At the stage to where No disrespect to Jean Carle Gini Another great international actor In a virtual film He's great but he's saddled with a lot of exposition This is the easiest what stage to worst ever The Sony products If you have Sony Ericsson's cell phones And the Sony Vio has like three modes in the movie It's so crazy The phones are so weird You know what either of those products Were on your computer You have the Sony Ericsson's stretch No Yeah, that was like a whole year of So James Bond in six hours Poisoned nearly to death Knocked out in the horrible car accident Where the car rolled over 10 times And he got literally knocked out Portrait by naked And the guy hit some hard bamboo thing Against his nuts The six hour stretch for James Yeah, not tapped in all the time I'm gonna say I need more time in Lake Omo maybe Maybe about a year They don't say how's James James, are you okay yet? It's like Which time is they want to give me In Lake Omo?

Lake Omo? James, ready to come back to work yet? Actually no Yeah, I'm not I'm with you I mean if he's getting time With Vesper Yeah, stick around With stage to worst In the shower scene Vesper was originally scripted To be wearing nothing but her underwear Daniel Craig stepped in And said Vesper would not have stopped to take a close off And the scene was changed Just giving him a little stage to worst In the shower scene Oh my gosh It's good in the shower scene Let's not like the time That's covering very much And there's another category About other places It's kind of funny Because Eva Green is in the Like I'm happy to take my close off As far as she takes No, no, no Uh, remember when he flew to work That's time for a p-break How many of them he's rehabbing? Probably skip The rolling around in the bed Like that That's a minute there Of course I do Listen, this is moving me more sex I'm standing up for another room Right now to say yes There's plenty of them I wouldn't say the actual physical Stuff with them is like body heat Okay, well nothing is quite like body heat Right, true True I think that they have a palpable chemistry That is very natural So where'd you go for it?

When would you go for the bathroom for three minutes? I think either at the bodies of it I was gonna say Um, because it's just It's too creepy for you No, it's just kind of boring No, it's just kind of boring The bodies of it to me Because I went to see it It's like a very dated 2000 May 2000 So that might have been worse Yeah, but um It's kind of quick And then what does he learn? Like, oh, the bags on? You know, like, you know, it's fine Is this the greatest collection of hot people though?

In one of these movies? Because we didn't even talk about it on the mill set-ish Isn't this? And we didn't talk about uh, Katarina Marino too Like, is this the most We've done better? Interesting I mean, we've had But also Craig I know Craig I think it's considered the hottest bond Not even a people at the time thought He was sort of plain looking People weren't saying I didn't know that he was plain In bonds, let's see What do you have most of these guys like us?

To do? And Monica Bellucci And Daniel Craig Right, whoa So that's Yeah, that's powerful And I'm trying to think No, you're just your focus on that Alright, that's it for the podcast So, the sector is giving it a run for the money What else they do versus Eva Green is like the all-time cage match That's an insane battle Was there a better title for this movie? No, this is great That's a good title That's the book Best quote Um, you lost because of your ego And your ego can't take it Or I'm sorry, that last thing nearly killed me Better for your poison Or the whole I need you looking fabulous Which like seven one-liners What's the dinner jacket one? There are dinner jackets and dinner jackets That's a good one It's my favorite Steven has my time to take a word You got one?

Yes What is it? I don't think M keeps her job I just, first of all, international incident At an embassy that winds up on the front page Of every UK newspaper Then they- Oh, there's a fall guy There has to be a fall guy for that Well, sure, but then after that She lets an M-I- she lets like a mole Into M-I-6 A county department Who steals all the money So that's $150 million Walking out the door Trails gone cold Bonds out there Did he check out the money two days earlier? Yeah, I mean to accountability For the vetting process And you can't confirm it That's for sure But it's like how many different fall guys Can she keep find at this point? I love them I love Judy Datch But I'm like, this is a meter cock up There's a way that I've- I've just a great joke For how many times can you lose $150 million But I've got a lot Is this like a David Kahn situation?

No, it's like a little laugh I, uh, I know what you mean I, uh, furthermore, I think I'm my six of that That's like, I'm like, what these films reveal Is how bad am I sixes? I mean, just consistently Like the terror comes to England It's a point in these movies In the correct movies And it's a very important organization Yeah, you have a how to say Um, not really I have more, I have a lot of picking nits Which don't take away from the movie for me But I know this is true for a lot of jeans on stuff My hat is taking short, sweet This movie's better for the trailer It's not up a notch You're not making such $50 million But I think it's actually a better movie What do you do with ours? This is a sleasiness And I don't know I actually think this is a really, really, really terrific movie But I think it could have been like a little bit darker And a little sleasier and sexier At the time though, it was a strong shift away from what the movie said Yeah, yeah Like the scene when he's um Like battered and bloody and has like cuts on his face But we really have never seen Bond Look like that Like look that Unbarnish The torture scene is wild And violent and upsetting I kind of, what would it take for this movie to be rated? Like what's missing as it just ever?

Yeah, yeah You know, I'm like, who's the actress that he's about to hook up with? Katarina Marino? Yeah, maybe Okay, sure Let's put some real sex in here Okay, let's do a fun That's why it's a hot take Katarina wanted to direct the casino royale And I was not interested And he claims that he worked behind the scenes with the funny family Because of what he knew about the ownership of the first book Were in different hands And I think when he got down the line with the funny family He learned that they had secretly acquired the rights of the casino royale He was set in the 1960s with Pierce Brosse The torture scene would have been worse This is the 90s when he wanted to do this, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah He's like, I have some thoughts on the torture scene Not scary and violent enough Yeah, I mean, imagine what the game could have done This is the new royale He thought about it again Um The only other actor in series contention was Henry Cavill Who's only 23 years old and they said no way Um, but they apparently screen tested really well And they got excited about it And then just decided to see him like 22 is crazy I kind of wish that he wasn't Superman so that he could be Bondo Because he is, he would be the perfect Bond to follow, correct?

Because he's more in the classic mode Yeah, he's so, well, he got fired from that But then he did the whole mission of possible run He did man for Bondo That was his fun movie Very good, very impressive I think he's really underrated And this is where we're going to mess up his I'm not going to mess up his mission I'm not going to mess him up, really Yeah, so that would be alarming That would be his fault, if he could fail it back Are two finalists for the Eva Green role Where Eva Green? And Olivia Wilde Come around the OC It's amazing sliding doors Yeah, this one really has to be over again to me I don't see the Olivia Wilde thing at all Well, she's in Rush basically by basically playing this character Eight years later and didn't totally work in that role And she is very beautiful, and it's still dirty But like, I think she doesn't have the mystique And I glad that is for Americanness You know, like she was great on the OC But I'm like, I don't want, you know, hi Is she descended from British royalty, though? Or sort of like, Madderhouse? She could be, and she was definitely married To an Italian princess, I don't think that's what it was There's other stuff on the river That's where we're running late Madam Wu, the lady who played her was also in the only place Overacting where I'm going with Alex Demetris He's very TV actress I was also going to say Katarina Reno Okay, Mrs Demetris It wasn't her choice, probably The horse, right?

The horse is a lot That guy Jean-Carlo Janini is not that guy I don't think he qualifies He's left away, and he's in some duties He's in some duties, definitely not that guy I love him in these movies, though I mean, I love him right, and everything, but He always does well I always like having him, he's even going to get in all eight I just love you, I understand he's moving, he has a small part of it And then he just nails it I'm going to go with Avana, whatever her name is No such She's like a that guy to me She was on a dance scene You don't want to be in? She has a next scene I don't know if everyone knows who she is But she'll be also I have her in a different category I was one like, you know, that Jean-Carlo Janini was in book love too And that was like a real, he was a that guy to me In book love too, I was like, hey I think the wise mensies at this time was a that guy But he hasn't been elated Jan waiter's a word for best he check It's got to be the goatee athlete in the beginning The bond is chasing In all this shit that guy does Yeah, Sebastian, Janini's eligible Okay, I had Judy But I almost feel like she's like the fourth most important actor in the movie I don't know if she's necessarily Jan waiter's ish When she confronts him after he kills the bomb maker And she says, you're not seeing the picture I was like, wow, we need to cut that out with the podcast That's in her eyeliner She's great, this is where I had a vinyl sandwich She's really good as the villain's girlfriend I kind of a villain girlfriend Yeah, exactly So that's like the big guy at the poker table was great I like when he throws in the five billion he holds up the five Recast and catch Here's what I have for you Okay, we got ten seats Put some recognizable weird ways, is that? Are they playing themselves or the characters? What is Pat Riley's character's name?

I don't know Is it like um You don't know? We don't know? Is it like Sebastian culture? Yeah, is it something cool?

Can we move to the poker game to the seats? Or are they all American? Is this a very terrible thing? What a Lauren Hill cameo Where she plays a woman who probably doesn't speak in the poker table Is that a high-sink poker table?

Okay, nobody's with me on this I think you have a jack on the set Okay, right, yes, sure It would have been funny if it was all former bond girls I would have been using Or all people who were in a bond Yeah, it's not the poker table Or one on all the phones, you know Half eyes are in a research The graphic design in the beginning Was inspired by the cover of the book you mentioned 1953 10 years The original design of a playing card Bordered by Red Hearts 8 Red Hearts driven blood The eyes of mine rotated seven times While being filmed And became a spoke of world records For most spins on a car crash Another simple smart cable thing Which is like, he's about to this The Venetian house that falls apart Was the largest rig ever built for a bond film Huge tank, 90 tons Well then Daniel Craig in 20 pounds of muscle For the role by it here in the Sean's diet Mostly proteins Minimizing his carbs Training 5 days a week and only doing cardio on the weekends That's what you do, right? Yeah, that's what we do exactly this Vespers official job International liaison officer For the financial action task force Of HM Treasury Same Don't know what that is So They did a big deal with Ford Yeah The Mondeo 14 million pounds Yeah, you can see the Yeah, you can see the Ford The opposite That's his rental car until he trades off For the US market If Sony and Sony Ericsson Who Sony has a Blu-ray player Cybershop camera All the Sony stuff from the 2000s For the DVD of the security footage Why are they filing the DVDs of the security footage? You know all the stuff At any pawn shop near your house Um But not enough product placement Compared to 2002 Which died another day Had the nickname by another day The product placement was so bad That it actually was a huge magazine People like you guys have sold out the series This isn't even a movie in a while So I don't remember the products Oh, you get a product placement, right? The watch Yeah, on the train Not a Rolex, no me go Yeah First movie ever dubbed in Chinese for Chinese cinemas No And they added extra dialogue to explain Texas sold them Okay Because it was not a familiar game In China Now they can just add this podcast to all the It's just like a drink What do you know what I was like?

This man has three aces and two eights And in the game of poker we call that A whole house I'm about to hear it So they destroyed three Aston Martin cars Which were $300,000 each That's cool That's adding Upsetting That just starts my heart The bleeding of the eyes, the real medical Condition It's known as Hamo Lachria Yeah, that's why it's here with Europe Just to get out of here It can actually be an indicator of Some sort of tumor Terrible thing So there you go Just use this right Sorry Sorry I didn't follow your cover up That well enough But yeah, it's usually assigned something Not great as hell Well, maybe that explains the shifts Rekla's nature Yeah, yeah Apex man Dean Craig, I'm gonna say yes I think so I became like an A-plus Lister after this Definitively, I think it's pretty interesting that he's able to hold onto it With knives out That is unusual Because most bonds go into a state of You know, they reduce their public awareness You know, like Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, even Chris Brosnan, who still works But they're just not the same in our culture Like, you know, Craig's the only A-plus movie star That's out really rejuvenated that Totally But it was concurrent You know, like, that came up before No time to die Yeah, first The only thing is that he married Richard Vice in 2011 And then Skyfall was released in 2012 So I would probably locate That as a effects mountain Just in movies and in life That's really powerful Free song Eva Green I'm gonna say yeah It's the biggest movie I've ever been Felt like she was headed for a giant things after Probably Yeah They're an agent fucking up Yes, I'm art in DD9 I'm gonna say yes James Bond I don't I'm gonna say no I feel like he meant more in the Probably not in the end Yeah, yeah Doctor No, Doctor No, Doctor No, Doctor No, all His fingers, that period That's the most important High-stakes poker, no Tuxedos Apexone for Tuxedos Has ever been a better Tuxedo moment in a movie In a movie Oh gosh I mean, there have been up there Modern movie, maybe not All of a sudden, I'm not gonna say it With the Rat Pack Yeah, you're right, Rat Pack Tuxedos I'm like, classy dead bodies, yes Yes, definitively I don't know, emotional shower scenes He's a classy dead body Katarina marino being tangled in hammockers No, I was like that in the dead body exhibit Oh, sorry, I thought I honestly thought You were talking about the guys in the trunk You know, and I was like, well, what makes them classy? You want a girl? Best racehorse name, the chief? The chief, it's a great name Until you know the back story, book a name Yeah That's something James Bond is a great racehorse name I mean, that's brilliant That's pretty good Yeah, that works for a horse That works for a horse, but not her That's a great one What about Ethan's full beats?

What about what tells him he? Four Jacks Four Jacks Oh, yeah, four Jacks Picking nits We talked about most of these Isn't this easy to fight off being poisoned Where it's just like, oh, thank God I had the thing in my car And I'm good and ready to play poker a minute later I'd like some questions I'd like to think that our intelligence organizations Have at least figured out the, you know, the anti-boys and treatments Okay, I anticipated this, but I brought some poison here today So let's go through a live tournament We have her picking nits, he said, yeah, go The plot isn't going here, I don't understand So Felix Leiter is going to help him buy back in But why doesn't Vesper want him to buy back in? Is this so that she can save him? Because then she can't execute the plot that she needs to She's laughing in her own way She's laughing, she's not going to give him the five million Yeah Well, also, does it matter because then Okay, well, she can be laughing and or She's working for them So if Bond doesn't buy back in, then the guy wins Not necessarily though, what if the Japanese guy wins?

What if the black guy wins? Like, I don't understand, like I mean, I will agree with you that Let's win all our money back at a high-six poker tournament In Montanecro is not a foolproof plan for anyone, you know It's not great for the CIA, not great for MI6 Well, I'm pretty interested in it, yeah I think obviously I pointed out, just like I don't think that even Karate can die there in the road When they haven't yet secured the money They haven't yet spoken to the Swiss banker It's very shady It's a story, it's a moment that doesn't make sense to me SQL, Prick will press the CDL, black cast, don't touch one, don't touch one I would like to see the old black cast with the games That's the dangal kaluya as Bond thing is really interesting to me I think that would be fascinating I completely agree It doesn't seem like I'm going to do it The Broccoli's do not seem open to that Or really any sort of reimagine But it would be great We talked about that before in the spot, right? How about him as Bond? A couple years ago, it was very hotly dated A lot of other 40 guys, he's got to be the best candidate I mean, he's the best actor There are a lot of interesting candidates It sounds like we were talking about Aaron Johnson's He seems to be the favorite in the class right now Because, yeah, the other person that should be in this is Chris Ryan Declaration, but since he's not here This guy, Connor's one else, he's a little young but he was on the show S.A.S.

Row Heroes, which is playing basically a proto Bond in this movie about an organ African campaign in World War II And he's just like, he's got it And if they wait five years, it could just be him But better with Wayne Jenkins in the trailer Katherine Huns, Steve Bishamie, Sam Jackson, J.T. Walsher, Phil Piccraw We don't have Chris If you're Wayne would have been at the poker table Goddamn! I was super spy I think Steve Bishamie or Sam Jackson at the poker table would have been fun Sure I think you could talk to him at Bishamie in the Giancarlo, Gianini Roll Oh, okay Well, I would have enjoyed that Just go, I'm just not going to get up Bishamie in my life these days But being honest, no more Bishamie was everywhere That's why he's in that category Which is like, he's going to make it a special guy Just one asker, who gets Amanda? David Green Best supporter?

Yeah, don't you think she can run around and she wins? I was going to go mad for her supporting her Okay I feel like These Bond films are very very, they're up and now I should say Because I think Walsher and S.A.S.S. are actually quite bad And this is bad This and I fall are pretty much as good as franchise movie Yeah, so I follow the masker, please So, but I always feel like this should be kind of literally recognized more aggressively by the Oscars Yeah, I should be recognized This is a good movie here, but I should have I agreed Probably next book questions Shouldn't I get a cut of the $150 million pot? Like 5% Or queen country, that's what we work for Yeah Well, tip Throw in like a 5 million, whatever Thanks, James Hey, how about the money?

I'll have to negotiate with CBA, I think You know, the MI6 CBA How did they determine Bond was the agency's best poker player shown? Was there a satellite tournament in like a new castle? I don't say when you're talking about spinning off the series Like the MI6 double over tournament is a show I watch Guys, don't ask any questions But we're gonna have a poker tournament on Saturday So good, Bill Thank you This is a better runner, Tom Cruise or Daniel Craig I'm so glad you brought this up I was thinking that he was just a corner Ergonomic, tough in, of efficiency Yeah But I think that there is something Cruise is the best in my opinion I think he's the best in my opinion But like Craig is using his bulk Like to make it look slightly more Like proportional, I think in a way that works for me How tall is Daniel Craig? I'm gonna say like 5 to 8 But he's tall I think he's probably in at 5 to 10 He's listed at 5 to 10 Oh, that's 5 to 8 Yeah, okay Do you think Cruise is next mission possible?

He saw the Bond movie He's like Can I kind of be more running? Yes, that's movie Honestly, yes, I think that these movies being good Is partly responsible for why 4, 5, and 6 Of the Bond films are so good I think that he sees that they're not Fucking around anymore with the Bond movies And they're not gonna be silly anymore So he has to take the next level In my opinion, that's actually great Should there be a classy World Series of Poker Where everyone's in Tuxedo's And there's just hot women with evening gowns Just walking around in martinis I think that means a lot of participants Of the World Series of Poker Could we try it? What channel would run that? The classy World Series of Poker Is all the people are basically All the people who play poker for a living They're basically all out, except for a living We have to go to Tuxedo There's people that So maybe we do the Met Gala We do the Red Carpet We take all the photos And then once you get inside the Met Gala, it's just a poker tournament Okay You win?

Yeah, but do you want to cover it? I can cover it I like watching classy dressed up people play poker And like crazy rich atmosphere is like that It always makes it a movie I would need them to borrow this pacing Where there are lots of breaks For people to order drinks, have fights and stairwells Have sex and a shower implied You know, etc You want them to be covered in the coverage You want to go? Now cut away to our shower sex scene During the Tuxedo program I just want to get an intermission And then you know how many watch the Oscars With the Golden Globes And like all the mingling And people taking selfies together Before it and after commercial breaks Is the most exciting part? I need the mingling Imagine the like miked up plus NFL films possibilities Though if we just like put a little pocket camera on people And mike them up through the playing of a tournament This is a great idea Cocktails?

Yeah Great, cool bartender Thanks Any answer about our questions for either of you? We already did it with the timeline of their relationship What is your best double feature choice for this movie Sean? I think you could probably go right from this to Dr. Knell And say like this is actually how the James Bond franchise Starts, you know?

That like sets you off And Connery, I think Connery where Craig is the eaten Is now the debate for most people who is the best Bond I don't know what you do Where do you say that? It's Connery I mean it is it's Connery He was the original podcast I kind of put as like an emeritus And then Craig and then everyone else I have some idea that I would pick old finger Just because that's my favorite of the conries Hey rounders, go rounders That's great That's all poker We're born Like the first born is an interesting comparison Time-wise And you know what they're doing and not doing The Indian Reds do want an air word for what happened the next day Um Probably a tisicular implant Transplant? Transplant is a tis not Six more months of blood draining He really can't overstate The amount of work that we need to be done to repair That's the way that is impotent That is impotent That's why I wasn't sure He was actually hitting him in the balls Because I was like How can we have an impotent James Bond It defeats the purpose of the movie franchise And Madeline Wilson's character even has some line to that I'm hitting you like where the future is not something You're right I guess I just didn't 100% want it to be true I thought I was just hitting him near Also, one of the better lines Everyone's gonna know you died scratching my balls Yeah, that's a great one What piece of memorabilia would you want from this movie? The car is obvious, but I'm right at the boat No, the boat that they're taking through Venice Not at the boat that they're taking through Venice Not at the boat that they're taking through Venice I like the poker chips with a million dollar block cards Oh, yeah, that's right I never seen them in casinos, but they're always at the whale tables The coach Vince Aka word for best life lesson Mm-hmm What is it?

I do And they're dinnardagas and dinnardagas I won, I'll wear a cup Just in case Mine is, I just made this up by my generals Or worth more than $150 million It's a contract That's just a contract Here's the password Okay, good Who won the movie? I think James Bond won the movie Oh, James Bond franchise I was gonna say Barbara Broccoli Brother Broccoli, the stewards of James Bond I think that's right But I think that's kind of secretly wins the movie He still wins it But the villain performance Every time I see him in a movie I get excited Do people know his name Like it's the general movie I don't think normal people do Yeah, not quite I mean, he really was He had a run with Rihanna Bit by my money He's like a villain in that video And so I think that exposed him to a newer audience But he was headable He was headable He was headable on TV obviously But I think he paid attention to these things You know who he is And if not He's just that guy For him to be in a rail We got correct I don't have a ton on this This movie's very good I'm just a fan of Bond I think I think Daniel Craig is the coolest person I've ever seen in the movie I think I just like the movies These movies feel like a genre to me I think Mission Impossible and Borns are just more boring Because they take themselves so seriously Yeah The subtle tongue and cheek is with Bond I just really like I think John makes the same way So I like John Wick Because it doesn't take itself so seriously It's like a little tongue and cheek And Mission Impossible and Borns are just so serious John Wick is a good shot though Also very clearly inspired by this era of Bond And almost parodying your trauma Like killing my dog It's the Indiana John Blueprint of It's seemingly relatively normal person Who has to be a hero versus like Born in ancient hunt Which is like these are just heroes I don't see like normal people Right I would still mention possible for any of these movies Personally but I think that's because I think I do I would say three Mission Impossible movies I probably have over this But I think this is like the best Bond effort That I can remember Yeah Well there's no We didn't talk about Quasalas Which is the next movie after Which has been in the news lately Because it was made during the writer strike Yeah that in 2008 And snakes because they weren't able to read the movie On set Like it's a little incoherent kind of boring It doesn't work that well And then the franchise is really revived It's got to fall But also Quasalas brings in Spector and Mr. White And then it but it's also trying to hang on To some of the best bird character Because they feel as you feel Bill that you just want her back And Skyfall goes back to Just like Bond the hobby of a character Who is a former and a success It's more grounded So it really it does work when it's less Ridiculous international conspiracy Great