CC#73: Mr. Rick Moulin - Superintendent - Bonner Springs-Edwardsville, USD 204

Summary In this episode of Cool Coffee with Kansas Principals, Rick Sola interviews Rick Moulin, Superintendent of USD 204 Bonner Springs-Edwardsville. They discuss Moulin's extensive journey in education, his transition from teaching to administration, and the importance of consistency and connection in leadership. Moulin shares insights on "making new mistakes," the significance of behavior as communication, and his excitement for the upcoming school year, emphasizing the value of community engagement and the role of teachers in shaping students' futures. Be sure to listen to Superintendent Moulin's own podcast, Talk 204 on major podcasting platforms like Apple, Amazon, and more. Check it out!   The mission of the Kansas Principals Association, an organization committed to educational excellence and the lifelong success of all students, is to develop and support all principals through optimized learning, collaborative leadership, networking, and service. Read more about the KPA HERE.   YOUR Input on Cool Coffee is NEEDED! Click HERE to share thoughts and interest for you or a colleague on being on the show! Click for ALL Cool Coffee episodes! Connect with Cool Coffee on... Follow us on X: @KSPrincipals; @KPACoolCoffee Facebook: KSPrincipals Contact the host: X @MrRickSola, [email protected], or [email protected]   This episode's chapters (timestamp does not account for show's 30 second intro) 00:00 Introduction and Background of Rick Moulin 02:40 Rick's Journey in Education 05:23 Transitioning from Teacher to Administrator 08:03 Reflections on Leadership and Mistakes 10:36 Staying Connected with Students 12:55 The Importance of Consistency in Leadership 15:33 Excitement for the Upcoming School Year 18:25 Community Engagement and Podcasting 21:55 Final Thoughts and Reflections   TRANSCRIPT OF THE SHOW (generated by AI) Rick Sola (00:01.813) Hello and welcome to another edition of Cool Coffee with Kansas principals. Today I am here with the superintendent of USD 204 Bonner Springs Edwardsville, Mr. Rick Mullen. Welcome to the show, Rick. Rick Moulin (00:17.262) Thank you, I appreciate you having me. Rick Sola (00:19.083) Yeah, it's awesome to have you here. And I actually had one of your colleagues in the spring, Dr. Steven Archer was on the show talking a little bit of PBIS back spring of 25. So good to have Bonner Springs back here again. And I could start with you like I did with him and ask if you have any insight on whether the Chiefs are going to end up in your backyard out there. Rick Moulin (00:43.31) I wish I knew the answer to that, but I think a great name for the Chiefs would be the Bonner Springs Chiefs. We would take them here in Bonner Springs for sure. yeah, I don't know that the Chiefs will make it over to the Kansas side, but wherever they, whether they stay at Arrowhead or come over to Kansas, I'm a big fan, so I'll continue to be a fan. Rick Sola (01:05.951) Yeah, yeah, I thought for sure we'd have an answer by now. So when I talked to Stephen about it, I thought it was coming up. But we'll find out soon enough, as long as they stay in the area. But hey, appreciate you being on here. So we're recording this. It's July 22. So kind of a busy time of year for all of us in education. I can imagine as superintendent, there's a lot that you've been working on all summer. But I always like to start with just a kind of a basic road to the chair that you're currently sitting in and your road in education. And so I'll turn it over and have you fill us in from day one in education to where you are today. Rick Moulin (01:47.118) Well yeah, thank you for asking. This is actually my 30th year in Bonner Springs, Edgarsville School District. I'm getting ready to start my second year as superintendent. So I started off in 1996, 1997. I was a high school English teacher. I did that for a while and then I became a high school guidance counselor. And then after I was a guidance counselor, I became the high school assistant principal at Bonner Springs. I was the middle school principal in Bonner Springs for a few years. And then I became the high school principal. Did that for about five years and then became the assistant superintendent. And then this last year I became superintendent. The other unique piece of this is I'm also a Bonner Springs high school graduate. And so I graduated from Bonner Springs high school in 1990. And there's no place I'd rather be than right here in the Bonner Springs-Everettville School District. It's the reason that I'm in the situation I'm in today is because I had great teachers growing up, a great school system, and being the first kid in my family to ever go to college and graduate from college, I owe everything to the teachers and the staff of USD 204. Rick Sola (02:55.499) That's awesome. First of all, what a compliment back to the district that was such an important part of your life and upbringing. But I bet that's really neat for the community to know that their superintendent is a product of their own system. Rick Moulin (03:11.404) Yeah, sometimes there's a lot of pressure because nobody wants to fail, but nobody wants to fail in their own hometown either. So there is some pressure with being a hometown superintendent, but there's a lot of pride. like I said, we've got phenomenal kids in our district. outstanding teachers and support staff and so I'm just lucky to be surrounded by such great people and to get to do this job. So very thankful to be in Bonner Springs, Eddersville. Rick Sola (03:47.263) So you went from a middle school principal to a high school principal. If you had to go back to one of those only and maybe taking the school out of it, the levels, where did you find the most enjoyment or kind of your insight on both middle and high school? Because you're kind of two different beasts, but they're very similar in some ways as well. Rick Moulin (04:10.87) Yeah, so when I became the middle school principal, my entire career other than when I student taught was high school. And so I learned a lot being a middle school principal. And one of the things that I think was very eye opening for me is I remember when I was a high school assistant principal and teacher, and I'm sure it's the same in every district, but there would be times where teachers would think, well, you know what? They're not teaching kids how to write in middle school. And so I remember when I became the middle school principal, I'm like, we're going to make sure we're writing. Kids are learning how to write. And I get down to middle school and they're writing, kids are writing all the time. And I remember sitting in a PLC one day and one of the teachers said, well, I don't think in elementary they're doing X, Y, or Z. And I said, hey, hold on one second. Do you know when I was at the high school, they used to think that we didn't teach kids how to write. But now that I'm here, I see kids writing all the time and not only that but we've got great teachers and so we can't assume that we're not doing certain things at the elementary school because chances are at the high school there's probably college professors that are sitting around saying well in high school they just teach them this but the bottom line is I think I think it's a very rewarding job. Middle school was awesome because, you know, the age of the student, they're learning who they are. Rick Moulin (05:43.38) I really loved also being the high school principal because at that point kids are starting to make plans for what's next in life and it was just an honor to be part of that and to help guide kids and help develop programs to where kids could actually explore different career opportunities and things of that nature. to answer your question, I don't know, I love them both. I I love middle school and I love high school. Rick Sola (06:06.987) Yeah. Yeah, I have only been a middle school administrator, but I taught freshmen when I was teaching and loved them both. And I can see the rewards on both sides. is some it is funny. You mentioned the the next level always kind of looks down upon whether they're not getting this done at whatever level. And then you're right. It probably carries on up to college. Well, those schools aren't really getting ready for like we're working on it. And you'd always say it's a We're planting a lot of seeds and they come to fruition at some point. just takes some time sometimes. Rick Moulin (06:41.902) You know one thing I do at home? I pretend like I'm not very good at making the bed, because I hate making the bed, right? And guess what? My wife ends up making the bed because she doesn't think I can do it. Kids are the same way. And so when kids get into a classroom, they're going to try to, get away is not the right word, but they're going to do what they can to... to maybe get out of doing something they don't want to do. Kids may not want to write, right? But it doesn't mean they don't know how. It just means that we have to put the procedures in place. We have to put the expectations in. And we just have to make them do it. Rick Sola (07:23.659) Yeah, and they're not always wanting to be there. that a lot of times they just do what they need to do to keep either parents off their back or teachers off, whatever, you know, and just kind of, I'll just kind of get by. then, and that's what's needed. You know, when I was at the high school, it's neat to see when they start to kind of form a direction of where they want to go and that passion starts to ignite and then you see them thrive, you know. So you were a teacher for many years and then. Rick Moulin (07:31.875) Yeah. Rick Sola (07:51.689) got into administration. Did you always know you wanted to go into administration? Rick Moulin (07:56.48) No, I never wanted any part of being an administrator until I decided I wanted to. So I remember being a teacher and... trying to think about what was next. And I actually start taking classes because I wanted to start working towards my master's. And after I took my first administration class, I decided this isn't for me. I don't want to do this. And so I reflected and I actually became a counselor instead. So I got my master's degree in counseling. And at that time, as a classroom teacher, I had kids that would talk to me about, you know, personal issues they were having all the time. And it felt good to listen and to help guide kids and things like that. And so I thought, I don't want to be a principal. I don't want to be an assistant principal. I want to be a counselor. So I did that for several years and as I was doing that job once again I did some self-reflection and thought you know really want to make even more of an impact and how could I do that and so I decided maybe I could be an assistant principal but never never really thought about being the lead principal until I became the assistant principal and after I did the assistant principal role for a couple years I thought you know maybe I do want to be the principal. And because I could have even more influence on kids and the trajectory of kids' lives and things of that nature. so it just kind of, it honestly just happened over time. So. Rick Sola (09:21.365) Yeah, that's actually kind of a good analogy to what we were just talking about as far as kids kind of get along with them when they discover something just like you did. You discovered, hey, maybe I do want to do this. And if someone was trying to teach you to be a principal way before you were ready, you may have just kind of gone through the motions. OK, check some boxes. But then it kind of clicked for you. then so now you're in the superintendent chair. You're going into year two. Is there anything that, know, hopefully we have lots of principals listening, but there's a lot of principals that are aspiring to take that next step. As you go into year two now as a superintendent, is there anything that you look back on like, not going to do that again, or I want to make sure I do this again, or any reflection on that? Rick Moulin (10:10.754) Yeah, there's a, you know, I think part of being successful at any role in a school district is you have to always reflect. And it took me a while to figure that out. You know, I always tell kids and teachers and anybody who will listen that, that you want to make new mistakes. Because if you're making the same mistakes over and over, you're not learning and you're not growing. Early on in my career, I remember, you know, for example, we'd have a freshman orientation when I was a high school assistant. principal and the next year we'd have another freshman orientation and there were times where the same types of things would happen that would cause a little frustration or didn't go as smoothly as I thought. But if you wait a whole year to think about it, you forget. And so early on in my career, I learned that I keep a calendar. And on that calendar, as we go through certain events or certain situations, I make a note on the changes we're going to make for the following year. Usually it's something simple, but I'm not going to remember it a year later. So it's important to reflect. And so in this role, it's the same thing. We're not perfect, I'm not perfect, and nobody is. But the goal is to try to do the best job I can and to be as supportive of our kids and our teachers. And if I do make mistakes, I hope that there are new mistakes because I'm learning. Rick Sola (11:39.305) Yeah, gosh, I wrote that down. really like that quote, make new mistakes. It's simple, but there's a lot to kind of grab hold of there. And I feel so similar in that I always get most frustrated with myself if I make a mistake for the second time. Like, you knew better than that. Come on. But to make new mistakes also implies effort and growth. And that's how we grow through those mistakes. I really like that. And a great strategy as far as a calendar goes, keeping just a calendar, because we are a profession of kind of annual events. We're in registration right now. We'll get the back to school night. We're going to have, you know, it just kind of cycles. So that's fantastic. You know, one thing, as I kind of think back on, I don't know if you felt the same way, but as you go from being a teacher Rick Moulin (12:17.848) Yeah. Rick Sola (12:35.455) To this day, my biggest challenge of transition was from teaching to the assistant principalship. I felt like it was a new career. And one thing that really was a struggle early on was I felt like, my gosh, the relationships and connections I have with kids as a teacher, I can't match that as assistant principal. Then you discover, it looks different and there's new ways to do that. As you've gone from the AP to the principal, now to the superintendent, What does it look like as superintendent to stay connected with kids from this chair? Rick Moulin (13:11.01) Well, I think it's the same advice that I give our principals is that for me to be successful, for our principals to be successful, we have to be where the kids are. And so I remember, you know, going back to your question, I'm going to backtrack for a little bit here. I remember being an assistant principal and having the same feeling that you just described and being an assistant principal is a hard job because number one, you know, a lot of times you're dealing with behaviors. Number two, you want to support the teachers. And number three, you're dealing with angry parents or sometimes parents that are upset. But I think the moment that everything shifted for me is I remember working with a kid and the kid was in trouble for some reason. And the old me at the time in my mind would be thinking about the consequence right out of the gate. And so as the kids tell me what happened, I was thinking about, the consequence of this kid's gonna get ISS or detention or whatever the case may be. But one day it just clicked. And as the kid was talking to me, I stopped thinking about the consequence and I listened and I reflected. And then as I was talking to the kid, I said something along the lines of, hey, you're gonna be in a similar situation down the road. How are you gonna handle this differently? Let's think about it now while you're not mad. Because when you are mad, you're just going to react the same way. So let's think about it. And the kids still got the same consequence. And I just remember at that point, the conversation with the parent went much smoother. The kid. liked and respected me because I took time to listen and help him reflect. And then when I called that parent, it was, hey, we've got a plan for how he's going to handle this situation in the future. This is what he says he's going to do if he gets into a similar situation down the road, and we're going to help him do that. And behavior oftentimes is a form of communication. And once we take notice of that, we can actually figure out what's going on. Rick Moulin (15:21.078) in this situation and how can we help the student learn from it and grow from it because a consequence is a consequence and students need consequences for behavior but they also have to learn and grow from it and so that was a big step for me once I figured that out. And now in this role as superintendent, like I said, I want to be where the kids are so I visit our elementary schools quite a bit. And that was very eye-opening for me because I'd always been a high school principal, a middle school principal. I love our elementary schools. I go into the elementary school and the kids are so excited to see it. I've done some guest teaching for some different lessons. I've read to classes from time to time. But really, I try to just interact with kids in the lunchrooms when I go to the schools and just touch base. I'm a guest speaker in some of our secondary classes, different things of that nature. You can never lose sight of the reason we're all here. We're here because our kids need us, and they need us to be the best we can be every day. And you don't know. what's going on in your district if you're not where the kids are. It's hard for you to make decisions that impact kids if you're not around the kids. So I just make it a priority to visit schools and classrooms weekly. Rick Sola (16:50.887) Yeah, that's great. you'll be in a being a product of Bonner Springs as you go around the buildings. Do ever get students come up and say, hey, my parents went to school with you or whatever, anything like that, any connections? Rick Moulin (17:02.784) yeah, I've got a makes me feel old because. I've got students who, you know, I had their parents and they'll tell me about it and they'll share stories about when their parents were in school and you know, the, and I don't know if you have the same experience, but you know, there'll be times where a former student will, I'll see a former student somewhere, whether it's grocery store or Walmart, whatever it is. And a lot of times a former student will say, remember that time I got in trouble? And honestly, I don't remember. I mean, I do not remember most situations of kids get in trouble. What I do remember are the relationships, I remember you know the the qualities of the student that I enjoyed and so the things that stick with kids we just have to understand that we make a huge impact on kids even when we don't realize it. So I see kids all the time and I see the kids parents and you know there'll be a time where I'll be in a classroom and the kid will say hey my mom said that she had you as an English teacher and I'll say something if it's appropriate at the time I'll say hey let's do a quick picture you can share you know put it on you know we'll share it with your mom or whatever and so we'll do a picture and you different things like that. Funny thing is I was in lunchroom one day with a bunch of kindergartners and this little kindergarten girl When I came into her classroom like the week before and the teacher introduced me and the little girl and she says, does anybody know who this is? And this little girl raises her hand and said, he's friends with my grandma. And I go, I am friends with your grandma. And so anyways, we're in the lunchroom and I said, hey, let's take a picture. Rick Sola (18:44.767) You Rick Moulin (18:50.638) we'll share it with your grandma." And she's like, okay. So we take a picture and the kid next to her, can you take a picture with me for my grandma? Sure. And so the next thing you know, I'm taking, you know, I took like 10 or 12 pictures of kids because they wanted it for their grandma. And of course I don't know their grandma to send them, but I took the pictures anyway. It was kind of fun. Rick Sola (19:07.018) Yeah. Rick Sola (19:11.125) That's awesome. I gotta imagine going to elementary school just kind of reassuring and just kind of feel good and you know, go in there and they give hugs and you know, I very rarely do I need to go to an elementary every once in while. Usually I'm working with fifth graders, but I filled in for a second grade teacher covering a class and it was incredible. First of all, it's a hard job. There's a lot going on in that second grade. I was only there for 45 minutes and it felt like three hours and it Rick Moulin (19:33.912) Hey, you're not kidding. Rick Sola (19:40.617) You know, I'm juggling plates and I'm like, my gosh, but there's a magic in elementary schools, I think, that's just really, really neat. Rick Moulin (19:48.338) It's so impressive to watch elementary teachers in action. And I made a joke with our kindergarten teacher one day. I would love teaching to kindergarten for like 30 minutes because man, they have so much structure and routines and all the things and those aren't necessarily my strengths. But man, we've got some amazing teachers. Rick Sola (20:11.413) Yeah, you kind of hit on this, you know, and maybe you have some new principles, but like I said, hopefully there's a lot of principles listening to this and we're at the start of a year, especially those new principles. What advice would you give them as they're about to start, perhaps either in a new position or an administration for the first year? What advice would you give them coming from a superintendent? Rick Moulin (20:35.374) I think for principals or administrators or even teachers, anybody in the profession to be successful, you have to be consistent. You have to be the same person every day. so, Todd Whitaker, I don't know if you've read his book, but basically he talks about if you've had one bad day, you might as well have. know, bad days every day because people don't know what to expect. So you can't treat people nice four days out of five. You gotta be the same person every day because people appreciate consistency. And so there are gonna be some challenges that you face and you're the person that everybody looks at to determine how they're gonna react. I remember when I was the high school principal, there was a post on Facebook of a parent complaining that their kid only got four tater tots for lunch. And this picture's on the, and I didn't look at Facebook, but people would often. bring stuff to me and say, hey, did you know this was going on? So I remember coming in the office one day and my secretary comes up to me and says, hey Rick, have you seen Facebook? And I said, no, what's going on? She said, look at this. And there's this picture of a lunch tray with four tater tots on it. And we're getting slammed for having four tater tots or for not giving enough food at lunch and all this stuff. And I looked at our secretary and I said, Renee, we've worked too hard. We are not going down over tater tots. And she laughed and I laughed and we moved on. I did end up calling the kid in and say, hey, if you ever have an issue at lunch, you just need to let me know. And what's ironic is the kid said, that wasn't even my lunch. I don't know why my mom did that. And so we kind of had a little, but I did. I said, hey, if you got an issue, if you feel like you're having an issue at lunch, all you got to do is let somebody know. anyway, but. Rick Sola (22:11.135) haha Rick Moulin (22:38.034) The secretary was going to react and so was the office, was going to react however I reacted. So if I got mad, they were going to be mad. But I made light of the situation even though in my head I'm like, why would somebody do that? But you know, so you got to be the same person every day. Rick Sola (22:55.615) Yeah, I really like that. Do you find it a challenge sometime on the internal struggle? Because inside you're like, are you kidding me? Tater tots? This is, you know, but on the outside you have to project, you know, differently. Rick Moulin (23:06.83) The times in my career where I've let my emotions take over, it just causes more work. Because then you have to backtrack and you have to do all the, and so, so you, you know, you try not to take things personal, even though it's hard and you try to be consistent and you advocate for kids. We had a, you know, situation where we had a parent, a parent teacher conferences one time. And one of the teachers came up to me and said, hey, this parent's here and they're not very happy. I said, OK. So I went into the cafeteria and she was sitting with the teacher. And I'm sitting at the table with the teacher, the student, and the parent. And the parent starts saying something like, keep in mind for the audience listening, my name is Rick Mullen, right? And this parent looks at the teacher and says, another thing. I cannot stand Mr. Mullen. And I'm like, she's talking about me to me and doesn't know it. And she's talking about how she doesn't like me because this, that, and the other. I listened and I turned and looked at her son and said, hey, let's figure out how we can get on track. What are some things we can do to help? And after that, she looks at me and says, my goodness, thank you so much. What's your name again? And I wanted so bad to make up a name, but I told her, hey, I'm Rick Mullen. And she was very embarrassed. Later on, the teacher joked that. Rick Sola (24:10.699) Ha Rick Sola (24:25.611) haha Rick Moulin (24:33.292) I was trying to kick her under the table, but my legs weren't long enough. And so, but once again, it's really easy to take things personal, but most of the time it's the position that somebody's attacking and not the person. And so if you can look in the mirror every night and know that you're doing the best you can for the kids in your school, then you should be able to sleep at night. And what you're doing is important. Rick Sola (24:36.427) Hahaha Rick Sola (25:01.693) Yeah, that's a funny situation to envision, having that conversation. I bet the student was just mortified, probably realizing what was going on, the teacher. But no, you're absolutely right. there is that internal, and that's something that I've gotten better with as you just get into position of things you've got to kind of keep inside, or you have your team that you may share some things a little more candidly with. Rick Moulin (25:11.438) You Rick Sola (25:30.869) There's a saying, a good principal friend of mine say, something to do with when the principal sneezes, everyone catches a cold or something like that. And there's a lot of truth to that. So hey, we're about to start a new school year. What's got you really excited about 25, 26? Rick Moulin (25:37.792) Yeah. Yep. Rick Moulin (25:47.082) I'm excited to see our kids continue to grow and develop. As I told you before, we've got such good teachers in USD 204 and the classroom teacher makes all the difference. Because, you know, whether you like it or not, every kid only gets to be a first grader once, a second grader once, and we got to do the best we can to maximize kids' potential. Our former superintendent, Dan Brungart, used to say, they walk across the stage one at a time. And so we've worked really hard over the last several years to put kids in position to where they can be successful in whatever it is that's next in life. So some of our kids are going to go to college. We want to make sure that those kids are ready. If they're going to a technical school, we providing the skills necessary for them to be successful? job force, the military, whatever it is, our job is to get kids ready for what's next. And we've really taken some great steps towards that. Another thing I'm really excited about is we have a team that's been working with the University of Kansas. We were one of the inaugural teams to start looking at AI through the University of Kansas. And so our teachers have started implementing a little bit of AI. And we're going to continue to grow that this year, led by a group of our teachers and teaching kids the proper way to utilize artificial intelligence and how to be successful with that. You know, there's so many things that I'm excited about. If I could, I'd like to give a plug. I have a podcast that I just started this past year. It's called Brave Talk. Rick Sola (27:33.291) Absolutely, yeah. Rick Moulin (27:39.862) or Talk204, excuse me, Talk204. And so you can catch that podcast wherever you listen to your podcast. We're gonna have our first episode of the new season, I believe come out next Friday. So we're excited about that as well. But I'm just excited to see our kids and our teachers and summer goes fast, but you also miss the people you work with every day because you don't see them for a little while. Rick Sola (28:10.581) Yeah, that's great. We're starting to have slowly some teachers come back in the building. And just what you said, it's really great to see everybody. You spend all year together, get to know people, and it's like a family. So I will link your show into the show notes here, the Talk 204. And that's really awesome. I actually clicked on a few and heard. you had a, I think it was maybe your most recent one, but you had a senior on your show talking about some things. Rick Moulin (28:37.614) Yeah. Rick Sola (28:40.149) That's a lot of fun. So have you enjoyed it? Got it off topic real quick. But have you enjoyed doing the podcast? Rick Moulin (28:46.316) Yeah, I've really enjoyed it. was something that I kind of wanted to do. then Jada Houston, who was the guest on the last podcast, it was kind of part of her senior project to help come up with the title of the show, the theme, and all those different things. She works with our communications coordinator. But it's fun to talk to students and staff members and community members about things that are happening in our district and just to build those connections. The school district is a big part of the community and so we want to make sure that we're building good partnerships. Rick Sola (29:23.317) Yeah, no, that's awesome. And what a cool thing for her to be a part of something that's continuing on beyond her years in Bonner. So real quick, you've done a lot of this, but 30 seconds, a quick brag out on just Bonner Springs, Edwardsville, everything. And really, you've done this whole show. There's so many really rich things going on in Bonner Springs, but a quick brag out to your people. Rick Moulin (29:47.726) I tell you what, our kids, I'd put them up against kids anywhere. They work hard, they're respectful. We have our challenges just like everywhere else. But the nice thing about being in Bonner Springs, Editorsville is our kids and our community respects teachers. They value education and it's just great to be part of. The second thing I'll tell you, and I've said this a few times now, but literally, It's just magical walking into some of our classrooms in USD 204 to see our teachers in action and connecting with kids and you know kids that may struggle to see the light bulb go off and it's because of the great work of our teachers and our support staff and we've got a great team at our central office as well and really at the end of the day I think we're headed in the right direction. our focus as a district is all of us are here because kids need us. And so we don't hire people just to hire people. Our kids and our buildings need us. And if you're in a support role, you understand that that support role is needed because it helps kids in the classroom. So I always use even like payroll as an example. If people aren't getting their paychecks, their focus on that instead of teaching kids. And so we have to make sure that We're doing everything we can to help our teachers and our staff be successful. And it's just a great place to work and live. Rick Sola (31:23.913) Yeah, that's really awesome, really great perspective. And as busy as it is right now, I really appreciate you taking the time to come on here. And just so many different sound bites. I wrote several down that make new mistakes. But I really like your behavior equals communication. We were talking about earlier, then like you said, the focus on if you're not getting your paycheck, that's where the focus is going to be. It's detracting from the classroom. And then, course, what's going to stick with me too is we're not going down on tater tots. Rick Moulin (31:54.05) Yeah, that was a funny situation. Like I said, you have to be consistent. You have to be the same person every day because the people around you are watching, the kids are watching, and they're going to respond how the leader responds. And that same thing in the classroom. Kids are going to respond the way the classroom teacher responds. Rick Sola (32:18.207) Yeah, 100%. Well, Rick, thank you again so much. And all the best to you as you start your second year out there as the head up in Bonner. And we'll look forward to a great school year ahead. Thank you so much. Rick Moulin (32:32.866) Yeah, thank you for having me.