Welcome to Music for Life, enhancing the Armstrong concert experience. I'm your host, Ryan Malone. In today's episode, we spotlight the performing troupe known as Celtic Knights, a touring group direct from Ireland presenting a program called Oceans of Hope at Armstrong Auditorium Monday, March 11th. We will also review the beloved musical styles that accompany competitive Irish step dance. We also have an exclusive interview with one of the main musicians and vocalists in the show, which you won't want to miss. So stick around as we spotlight Celtic Knights today on Music for Life.
We are well into our fourth season of Music for Life. All four seasons, we have been equipping our listeners with the tools to get the most enrichment out of their music listening. In the first two seasons, we occasionally interrupted our general music appreciation-themed programs to discuss an upcoming event at Armstrong Auditorium and prepare our audiences for this event. The past two seasons, however, we've devoted nearly every episode to that effort. These episodes have explored the artists and most all the repertoire being performed on the various concerts throughout the season. As I said earlier in the season, not only does this explain our tagline, enhancing the Armstrong concert experience, it still allows...
to present basic music appreciation skills in a practical way, preparing people for exactly what they'll hear in a live concert setting. As has already been evident throughout this season, different kinds of music have different kinds of appeal, and some styles of music, frankly, need a little more explanation than others in terms of being prepared for how to appreciate and enjoy them. But for the next group coming to Armstrong, I doubt they'll need as much help to be sold to the audience, given the kind of programming they are bringing and the kind of national appeal these types of shows have in the United States. Celtic Nights, spelled N-I-G-H-T-S, is one of the highly successful touring companies produced by the Ireland-based company GFD Promotions. It has been touring for several years. Edna Kenny, Ireland's Prime Minister from 2011 to 2017, said this about the group, quote, Celtic Nights have brought our distinctive and evolving music and dance tradition to the world stage and showcased our tradition in spectacular fashion, unquote.
From season to season, the group will tour a show with a different theme or angle. They describe this particular show on their website this way. This new production of Celtic Nights, Oceans of Hope, captures the very essence of who we are, where we came from, the dreams of a better place, liberty, freedom, and above all, family. It's the story of America, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. It's the story of people moving across oceans from all nations to free themselves from hunger, war, persecution, and famine to find a better place. This is their story told through Irish eyes. The production will tell this epic story through song, music, dance, and narration.
Songs, music, and dance will take the audience on an epic journey with two hours of entertainment. There will be moments of joy, sadness, happiness, and laughter. The message of who we are and the great journeys of our ancestors will leave the audience knowing that the stories of their grandparents, great-grandparents, and beyond should always be passed down through generations. Oceans of Hope is not only about the past, it's about now and the future. As with our previous Celtic Nights shows, the audience will be taken on a memorable journey. They will be a part of this production and warmly welcomed into the Celtic Nights family. A truly great night of sheer entertainment will be had by all, leaving our audience full of hope as the journey continues.
We look forward to our new show, Celtic Nights, Oceans of Hope, as we make our way from coast to coast, crossing many oceans on our special Journey of Hope. And so that's the description of the show from the Celtic Nights website. Now, before we talk about the illustrious cast of this show, I want to give a brief explanation of the musical styles behind the common Irish dances. See, for about a dozen years, our campus has been home to an Irish dance academy. Through those years, the school has been under a few different names, depending on the teachers heading up the instruction, but it has always been the Armstrong branch of these schools. Around the time our new Performing Arts Conservatory building opened back in August of 2016, the Irish dance instruction had been taken over by the prestigious Darren McGuire of the McGuire Academy of Irish Dance. Mr. McGuire has been using our large dance spaces here on the Armstrong campus for over a year and a half now, and his Armstrong dancers have been performing to much success all around the country. He had also inherited a crew of young people who had been doing quite well.
at international contests. Some of our patrons may have seen some of these dancers collaborate with the Chieftains several years ago when they performed on our stage. At any rate, the presence of an award-winning Irish dance school on this campus, just down the hall from where I'm recording right now, has created some unique opportunities for us in the campus's music department to work together with these dancers. We have produced five musical theater productions where the main dance style of choice for these productions was traditional Irish step dancing. Of course, I can think of many musical theater productions that have dancing in them, but none that use Irish step dancing as the main style and a means of telling the story along with the standard musical theater vocal style. As the composer of these musicals, it required me to learn the particulars about the different kinds of dances featured in this art form, and I thought it would be helpful to give you an overview of these main kinds of dances and the musical features of them, which I think will enhance your appreciation even more for what you're going to see on our stage. Musically, there are five different kinds of dance meters and tempos in competitive Irish step dancing. The reel, the hornpipe, the slip jig,
the regular jig, which dancers would call a light jig or single jig, and the treble jig. Now remember that dances are based on a recurring meter or stress pattern. The most common stress pattern in Western music is a strong beat every four beats, what we call four-four time, or even common time. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. The Irish step dance based on this meter is called a reel. Within the dance form, there are two kinds of reels even, a reel and a treble reel. Treble implies a hard shoe dance, but musically, both are based on the same four beat per bar stress pattern.
It is also important to note that the beat is subdivided into two equal halves, or like saying two syllables per beat, so a duple subdivision to musicians. One and two and three and four and one and two and three and four and. Or even if I notated it in two-four time, one and two and one and two and. So a duple subdivision of the beat. Here's a brief segment of a reel from one of our musicals. This is from our production about King David, the scene where he danced before the Ark of the Covenant, and this is based on the Irish tune, The Rousing of the Drink.
Now, the hornpipe is another kind of dance, also based on the four beat per bar stress pattern. Irish step dancers use hard shoes for this kind of dance as well. Musically, this one has more of a triple subdivision of the beat. One and a two and a three and a four and a one and a two and a three and a four and a... Or it might have more of what we call a dotted rhythm feel, where every beat has a long, short, long, short, long, short, long, short feel. Like long, short, long, short, long, short, long, short, one and two and three and four and... Here's a brief segment of a hornpipe from one of our musicals. This is from The Widow's Might, the story of Naomi, Ruth, and Boaz. And this is the Entract at the beginning of Act 3, which is basically an exhibition number of all the Irish dancers in the...
show. None of the dances in this production were based on Irish folk tunes, but rather from original tunes from the production. This hornpipe is based on a tune associated with Boaz and his farm hands. So that was a little of the basic hornpipe meter and rhythm in competitive Irish step dancing. Another kind of dance is the slip jig. The slip jig is a very distinct rhythm and meter, and one now used exclusively for women's soft shoe dancing. It has a three beat per bar rhythm pattern, but each beat is divided into a triple subdivision, or three syllables per beat. One end a two end a three end a one end a two end a three end a.
Musicians would commonly see this notated as 9-8 time. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9. I suppose it could also be notated in 3-4 time, with the triplet being the constant subdivision of the beat, but usually it's 9-8, and that's as technical as I want to get about that. Here's a brief segment of a slip jig from one of our musicals. This is in the musical Undefeated, the story of Isaiah and Hezekiah, and based on the Irish folk song In Deepest Sorrow I Think of Home.
So that was a small portion of a slip jig dance based on the Irish tune In Deepest Sorrow I Think of Home. Now I want to play this entire dance break from the undefeated musical. This is the part of the story where King Hezekiah's tribute in the form of dancers from his royal court in Jerusalem performed for the Assyrian king Sennacherib, which makes that particular Irish tune apropos for this moment in the story. This number in the musical is called Parade of Tribute, and it incorporates the slip jig we heard above. But it starts with a reel based on the Irish folk song Your Old Wig is the Love of My Heart. Then you hear the subdivision of the beat change into a hornpipe.
based on the Irish folk song, We Are Bold Volunteers. And then you'll hear that three beat per bar, triple subdivision of a slip jig that we just sampled, and then it ends with another sprightly reel, based on the Irish folk song, The Le Monde Field Rangers. And I'll talk over the section breaks, so you're sure to know where each dance style occurs. Here the subdivision of the beat indicates a hornpipe. Here's the slip jig. And now back to the reel tempo and meter.
So that was an example of a reel, a hornpipe, a slip jig, and then another reel, so you could hear the meters change for each. Now the jig is up. Let's discuss the regular jig, which dancers classify as either light jig or single jig, but musically there is no distinction in the meter or tempo, so I'll just call it the jig or the regular jig. If you recall, the slip jig was in 9-8 time, or three beats per bar, with each beat having a triple subdivision, as in one enda, two enda, three enda, one enda, two enda, three enda, or one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. The regular jig...
is based on a two beat per bar pattern, with each beat having a triple subdivision, or as in three syllables per beat. One enda, two enda, one enda, two enda, one enda, two enda. Musicians would commonly see this notated as 6-8 time. 1-2-3-4-5-6, 1-2-3-4-5-6, 1-2-3-4-5-6. Before I play a jig, I'll explain the final kind of dance meter and tempo, the treble jig. This is based on the same meter as the jig we just discussed.
six quick beats per bar divided into two groups of three. However, the tempo is much slower. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Now, treble, as we said earlier, also implies the use of hard shoes, and the slower tempo allows the dancer to create more clicks within the slower pulse. So let's hear an example of a dance break from one of the musicals that uses both of these tempos, the regular jig and then the treble jig. I titled this The King's Court as it represents the culture present in the Jewish court at the time of King Zedekiah. This is from the musical Jeremiah. This starts with a jig and then moves into a treble jig, and then after that it continues on into a hornpipe and then a reel. So this is a great example to listen to as we close this discussion so we can get an example of both a regular jig and a treble jig and then to review what the hornpipe and reel rhythms sound like. Each one of these is based on an Irish folk tune. The jig is untitled, but the treble jig is based on My Eveline Gave Me a Secret to Keep.
The hornpipe is based on a tune called the Gypsy Hornpipe, and finally the reel is based on a melody called the Fairy Dance. So here the tempo slows down for a treble jig. Now here's the hornpipe section. A reel.
You are listening to Music for Life. I'm your host, Ryan Malone. This is KPCG. In today's episode, we are spotlighting the performing troupe known as Celtic Nights, a touring group direct from Ireland presenting a program called Oceans of Hope at Armstrong Auditorium Monday, March 11th. We also have an exclusive interview with one of the main musicians and vocalists in the show. But what we just did was review the beloved musical styles that accompany competitive Irish step dance. We just heard the King's Court from the original musical Jeremiah, which fused Irish step dancing with the American musical theater style. I played that segment as part of our discussion on the different musical meters that make up the main dance forms within Irish.
We'll start with the five dancers, though. Cuiva Quinn began Irish dancing at the age of four for the Tara Dance Academy, and she was... a member of the Spotlight Stage School until her late teens, where she was trained in various styles of dance and drama, from which she has performed in some of Ireland's top theaters and concert halls. Quiva joined GFD Promotions in 2014, touring Germany as part of the show Dance Masters for three years, touring China and Poland as part of Gale Force Dance, and touring America with Celtic Knights.
Dancer Conor O'Neill achieved top five in Great Britain, eighth at the All-Ireland Championships, and 11th place at the World Championships. In addition to touring all over Europe and Asia with Titanic Dance, Celtic Legends, Gale Force Dance, and Dance Masters, Conor also joined Lord of the Dance in 2015, dancing alongside Michael Flatley. Derla Casey has been dancing from age three and has trained in multiple styles of dance such as ballet, hip-hop, tap, contemporary, jazz, and modern dance, but it was Irish dancing that stole her heart and would take her all around the world to countries such as China, Russia, France, Germany, Switzerland, and Denmark, performing in front of thousands. Derla has been touring professionally for the last six years, and this will be her first tour on the cast of Celtic Nights this season.
Holly Dalton-Heath is from Belfast and started dancing at age five. She competed in the highly competitive All-Irelands and World Championships, placing third in her region and 14th in the world. Since retiring from competition, she has toured Europe, China, and Taiwan with professional shows including Magic of the Dance, Danceparados of Ireland, Dancemasters, Galeforce, and once again with Celtic Knights. Also born in Belfast, dancer Oren Lynch began dancing at five years old. He has won many medals for both solo and drama competitions at the World Championships, placing top ten on numerous occasions. He began his professional dance career with Dancemasters before joining Galeforce, performing in Europe and Asia.
as well as a run of shows in Belfast and China with Titanic Dance. So those are the five dancers in the Celtic Nights tour. Now let's talk about the nine musicians and vocalists and listen to a few great examples from some of them. Lead vocalist Rebecca Shearer, born in Scotland but trained in London, is on her fifth tour with Celtic Nights. Being lead vocalist for this group, as well as for Gale Force Dance and other theatrical events, has taken her all over the world. In addition to singing and acting, over the last four years, Rebecca has started co-producing and directing shows as well. Let's listen to an example from her. This is The Night Visiting Song.
No longer tarry This morning's tempest I have to cry I must stop him to when he can't Wake up, love It is thine own true love Wake up, wake up
We just heard The Night Visiting Song, a track featuring vocalist Rebecca Shearer, lead vocalist for Celtic Nights, a performing troupe coming to Armstrong Auditorium Monday, March 11th, in a show titled Oceans of Hope. Another actor and musician in the cast is Kevin C. Olihan, who will serve as a vocalist and musician for Celtic Nights. He is an award-winning Irish actor as well as a writer and the creator and host of the weekly podcast Fireside, the Irish Storytelling Podcast. Then there is vocalist and musician Mark Irwin, a tenor from Ireland who studied at the London School of Musical Theatre where he received the Andrew Lloyd Webber Scholarship. Joining the Celtic Knights cast this season is also vocalist Amber Sylvia Edwards, who has performed in a number of stage productions in the UK.
One of the musicians on tour with Celtic Knights this year is the multi-talented Kate Hennigan, fiddler, harpist, and pianist who recently graduated from the University of Limerick in Ireland where she collected numerous prestigious awards in both piano and harp. Kate has toured internationally and performed extensively across the globe in Europe, the United States, and Asia playing harp, violin, piano, guitar, as well as singing. Kate comes from a strong traditional family who are all multi-instrumentalists and or singers and who all perform and tour regularly together. Kate is also a member of Ireland's well-known country music band Hurricane Highway. Kate is developing a reputation as a composer and is increasingly in demand as a tutor, co-managing one of Ireland's acclaimed traditional Irish music summer schools. You're hearing Kate there performing with another member of Celtic Nights, Emily O'Dwyer, who is a vocalist and fiddler with the group. Emily studied at prestigious schools and conservatories in Florence, Vienna, and Ireland. She has performed with several GFD Promotions touring groups and for two seasons now has been part of the Celtic Nights team.
Two other multifaceted musicians in the group are brothers, Dara and Mick Healy. As a versatile and vibrant multi-instrumentalist, singer, composer, and dancer even, Dara stands out among professional Irish traditional musicians of this generation. He is equally at home playing traditional Irish music as well as classical music and other genres, holding a classical teaching qualification on both violin and piano. But in traditionally Irish circles, you'll probably hear him mostly on the accordion. Dara is a founding member of the exciting new Irish band Boxing Banjo, a four-piece group that includes his brother Mick on the banjo, as well as a violinist and guitarist. Before we talk about Mick, let's hear a little from this group, Boxing Banjo.
That was The Slug from the exciting new Irish band Boxing Banjo. With Dara Healy on the accordion, Dara will be part of the Celtic Knights touring group coming to Armstrong Auditorium Monday, March 11th. Also in that band and also touring with Celtic Knights is Dara's brother Mick, who you would have heard on the banjo there. Michal, or Mick Healy, is a multi-instrumentalist playing banjo, mandolin, guitar, piano, and the Irish drum known as the Bauran, and has several All-Ireland titles to his name. In 2007, he was crowned World Bauran Champion as a young teenager. In 2012, at just 19, he released a solo debut album titled Pleckin' About, which showcases his creative skills.
as a composer as well. We'll hear a little more from him later, but let me get to the final vocalist and musician to discuss for the Celtic Nights tour. And he is also the participant in our exclusive interview on today's program. Kiaron Olihan has performed in a vast number of operas, musicals, and stage productions. He was trained in Dublin at the Royal Irish Academy of Music. And to talk a little bit more about his background and what he'll be contributing to the show, let's hear from him directly. Here's the interview I recently conducted with him over FaceTime.
I'm one of the singers and musicians in the show Catholic Nights. I've been with the show now since about 2016. This is my third tour of the States. And so you're singing in the musical side of the production. Yes. And as a musician, what instruments are you playing? Just guitar. Okay. Explain how you got started in music and what brought you into, how you got into this line of work and this tour. It was never something that was strange to me. I came from a very musical background. My parents, my grandparents all were singers and musicians. So growing up playing music and singing songs was never anything that was out of the ordinary to me.
And I suppose as a natural progression in life, I just followed in a lot of my family's footsteps. And where did you grow up? I grew up in a town called Wicklow Town, which is just on the east coast of Ireland, just south of Dublin. And so what brought you into this particular tour? It was really through mutual colleagues that I came to know the show and the company. I got suggested for a role with the company from a mutual friend of mine and the producers. And kind of the rest really just happened naturally after that. And so, like you said, this is your third season touring with them. Yes, yes. And what are some of the...
exciting things that you've been able to do on this tour some of the honors some of the great places you've been able to go it's always very exciting touring the states i think everybody in the cast always feels feels the same in that sense um i mean since 2016 i think i've seen over 40 states in the u.s at the moment and i've seen we've gone coast to coast we've seen nearly every climate now um so from the very cold to the very hot it's always an amazing experience witnessing the changes in the the vast landscape of the u.s it's amazing amazing to be over here in particular last year when we were we did a two-week stint Off-Broadway in New York, which was probably one of the biggest career highlights for a lot of us in the company. And you've also toured around the world as well? Yes, yes. The company that we work for, we have several different shows, whether it be Irish traditional shows, Irish dance shows, musical theatre shows. And we're lucky enough to have toured the likes of China and Australia and a lot in mainland Europe as well.
Great. Now, just for a kind of a listening-based audience, if you could describe basically the group. I mean, like when we look at the stage for a Celtic Knights performance, what are we looking at? How many dancers, how many musicians and singers, you know, who's on what instruments and that type of thing? So we've quite a large cast. There's six singers, three female, three male. We have five traditional Irish dancers, three girls and two guys. And then we have three traditional Irish musicians, which, and the musicians, even though there's three of them, they all play a vast range of Irish instruments from.
They put an accordion to the harp, to the fiddle, banjo, guitar, flutes and whistles, et cetera. Right. So we cover an awful lot of paces with the cast, whether it be song, dance, or music itself. Right. And describe this Oceans of Hope show. How will that take us through the story and describe it? Sure, sure. Well, each year Captain Knights comes out, we usually attach a different heading to the show. This year, in fact, is, as you say, Oceans of Hope, where we're telling the story of our ancestors, our Celtic ancestors from Ireland, Scotland, Wales, for the past centuries have...
We've been forced to travel to every corner of the world, not only the US, but to the likes of Australia and New Zealand as well, whether it be through sad circumstances or happy circumstances, whether it be through war or famine or oppression. We try and tell the story through song, through dance and through music. As I said, it sometimes necessarily doesn't have to be a sad or a happy thing. A lot of the songs are simple stories that have been passed down through archaeological heritage for the past centuries. A lot of these songs wouldn't have been written down. They've passed down through an oral tradition in Ireland. There'd be no music or anything. It'd just be passed down from one generation to the next.
We sing a variety of sort of old traditional songs to new songs that have just been commissioned for the company in the last couple of years. We have one of our main songs in the second half is a song called Spirit of Freedom, which was composed and written by a musician in Ireland by the name of Don Meskel. And that tells the story of Irish people leaving their homes, setting up a new life in foreign lands, but always dreaming of what they've left behind, whether it be the landscape, their family, their friends. So it sounds, in a way, sort of puts it in a negative or a sad light, but not necessarily always a bad thing. So we have songs like that, and then we have one of our favorite sections in the show is an unplugged section where we sit down at the front of the stage and sing sort of snippets of probably the most popular traditional songs that have come from Ireland in the last couple of hundred years, like your Wild Rover, Black Velvet Band, Tour Allura, Molly Malone, sort of stalwart classics like that. And we always like to get the audience involved and they sing along. Oh, that's great. And you said you're on a two-month tour, is that right? Yes. And you're just now in the second week of it as we're talking here. How is the show going over so far through the United States? Really fantastic. Another wonderful thing we love about...
touring in the states is the crowd reaction is always amazing it's really fantastic we feel very at home thanks to the audience participation and reaction after the shows we like to go down and speak to members of the audience and ask them what they thought of the show. And just, we sort of swap stories. And you obviously have a lot of people who are from a Celtic background as well. And it's always lovely to experience stories from different generations. And so have you ever been to Oklahoma before? No, this is our first time. Well, that's fantastic. Yeah, it's doubly exciting meeting new people in new cities and new states. And at Armstrong Auditorium, our campus is actually home to a very prestigious Irish dance school, actually. So I know there's a lot of students here from the Maguire Academy of Irish Dance, which has a branch right here on our campus. Excited to see your production.
Fantastic, fantastic. You said there was a favorite part of the show where you all sit down on the front of the stage and sing these folk songs. Is there anything else in particular that you are excited about just personally, you know, as a musician, say you really enjoy playing this particular tune or you enjoy this moment or you enjoy this aspect of the show? What would that be? An exciting thing for me would always be playing with the traditional Irish musicians when I play the live pieces that would accompany, say, the Irish dancers or accompany some of the singers. There's something always really magical about playing live on stage. The crowd are clapping along, the pace is up. It was just something.
that I've always enjoyed personally anyway. It just really, it adds a very exciting aspect to the show for me. Excellent. Well, is there anything else that you'd like to add in terms of maybe something everyone should come out and see because of this or that? Well, yeah. I mean, there are several Catholic shows on the road and touring worldwide at the moment. We offer a sort of a unique experience where we pride ourselves on getting the audience involved. We want to get them singing along. We want to get them clapping along. We tell stories in our music.
Our dancers are all live. Our musicians are all live. Our singers are all singing live. It is a real unique Celtic live experience that will leave people hopefully going home singing songs in their head and wanting to come back and see us again in the future. Sounds like a blast. Well, Kiaran, thank you so much for your time. This has been great. I appreciate you explaining the show to us. No problem. Thank you. And we'll look forward to seeing you pretty soon in Oklahoma. Absolutely. Yeah. Great. Looking forward to it.
And more like that I had still him so here he started by the life He's gone and white and early took a drop of the fuel Heapy mad from sink and that's the pan he's cure Whenever he's on to check and saw the last week while Captain all the while, had me curious I will set your heart and wobble it up He was a heart, page and sigh and cry, find the song what's high And of the rocky road and double and wampy cheat the boy On the fair and turn and down the rocky road All the way to double and wack-ba-la-dee-da In Dublin next arrived I caught such a picture piece or two deprived a view of that wide city so then I took a stroll All among the quality for the liquor store All in any locality, something cost me mine When I look behind the bundle code I find A funny stick, a wobbling wire, and bore the rope, said me caught up, no, wasn't much in both And the rocky road to Dublin, one, two, two, four, five, one, I came to turn it down the rocky road All the way to Dublin with the lullaby bar From there I got away, me stairs never fell, and landed on the key, just as the ship was said. The captain of me, I said that no rule, Harry, then I jumped aboard. I'm coming back for party, down among the peaks, I've laid some happy feet, I've got some packages to walk around me, bubbling up the hardy head, pushed me selfless head, fed the forest head, on the rocky road to Dublin, one, two, three, four, five, up the hair, I'll turn it down, the rocky road, all the way to Dublin, pack the lousy line.
All the way to Dublin. You are listening to Music for Life. I'm your host, Ryan Malone. This is KPCG. In today's episode, we have spotlighted the performing troupe known as Celtic Nights, a touring group direct from Ireland presenting a program called Oceans of Hope at Armstrong Auditorium Monday, March 11th. We also reviewed the beloved musical styles that accompany competitive Irish stepdance. And what we just heard was an exclusive interview with one of the main musicians and vocalists in the show, Kieran Olajan. And we followed that interview with a track that featured Kieran's energetic vocals in that rendition of The Rocky Road to Dublin. More information about this Celtic Nights performance and all performances at Armstrong Auditorium can be found at armstrongauditorium.org.
You can follow Armstrong Auditorium on social media. You can also follow this program at the handle MusicForLifePCG. Now, to conclude today's program, I want to return to those Healy brothers on accordion and banjo and end with a lively performance from both of them, and this includes guitarist Shane McGowan. I hope you enjoy, and I hope to see you soon at Armstrong. You have been listening to Music For Life, a production of KPCG 101.3 on the FM dial in Edmond, Oklahoma. From the Herbert W. Armstrong College campus, I'm Ryan Malone. Thanks for joining me.