Celts Trade for Jrue Holiday With Michael Pina. Plus, Pats Hit Rock Bottom With James White.

Brian chats with The Ringer’s Michael Pina about the Jrue Holiday trade, his elite defense, Brad Stevens’s busy offseason, and whether this trade makes the Celtics the title favorites (0:30). Then, Brian chats with three-time Super Bowl champ James White about the Pats’ blowout loss to the Cowboys, Mac’s dreadful performance, and whether the team can recover from its 1-3 start (53:45). Brian ends with a sad note on the passing of Tim Wakefield, and he takes a couple listener calls (1:25:15). The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Host: Brian Barrett Guests: Michael Pina and James White Producer: Jamie McClellan Additional Production Supervision: Steve Ceruti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices