🎥 Cerity Partners' Tom Cohn and Amita Schultes - combining an OCIO with a $100B wealth management practice

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode dives into one of the most topical trends in the evolution of wealth management platforms and their adoption of private markets.We are joined by Tom Cohn and Amita Schultes of Cerity Partners, where they discuss the recent combination of their two respective businesses, Cerity Partners, the $100B+ national wealth management firm, and Agility, a leading OCIO business.Tom and Amita discuss their merger, why there was a need to create customization for wealth investors in private markets, and how bringing on a leading OCIO business takes Cerity Partners’ capabilities to a new level as a solutions provider in private markets.Tom is the Chief Solutions Officer and a Partner in Cerity Partners’ New York office. He’s a member of the firm’s Leadership Team. He has over ten years of experience in various investment management roles, previously serving as an Investment Analyst at Spero-Smith Investment Advisors, where he was responsible for due diligence and analysis of third-party managers and assisted in global market and asset allocation research.Amita is a Partner in Cerity Partners’ New York office, managing Cerity Partners’ OCIO client portfolios. She’s a member of the OCIO Investment Committee. Amita brings over 20 years of experience as an investment consultant to bear to the firm. Before joining Cerity Partners, Amita was a Partner and Client Portfolio Manager at Agility, where she served as a voting member of Agility’s Investment Committee. Prior to Agility, she was a Partner, Managing Director, and Senior Consultant at Colonial Consulting, serving as an investment consultant for endowments, foundations, and pension plans. She also served as a Senior Consultant at Ibbotson Associates.Tom, Amita, and I had a fascinating discussion. We covered:* The why and the how behind Cerity Partners’ merger with Agility.* How wealth management platforms can balance customization and scalability.* Why scale matters in wealth management.* How alternative asset managers can differentiate when engaging with the wealth channel.Thanks Tom and Amita for coming on the show to share your views and wisdom on wealth management and private markets.Clip #1: Why did Cerity Partners decide to look externally to build OCIO capabilities rather than build in-house?Clip #2: Marrying an OCIO practice with a wealth management practice.Clip #3: Do wealth clients look at having an OCIO capability as something differentiated?Clip #4: What are the things you look for when evaluating a fund manager?A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. 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Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions02:05 Introducing Today's Guests, Tom Cohn and Amita Schultes07:35 Cerity Partners and Agility Merger Details08:24 Client Services at Cerity Partners09:39 OCIO and Wealth Management Synergies10:52 Why Cerity Partners Chose to Partner11:36 The Importance of Cultural Alignment13:33 The Role of OCIO in Wealth Management15:17 Cerity Partners' Approach to Private Markets16:56 Operational Excellence in Private Markets18:06 Research and Due Diligence in Manager Selection19:32 Institutional vs. Wealth Management Clients21:22 Complementary Insights from Institutional and Wealth Management23:05 Unified Research Platform28:57 Access and Customization in Client Solutions30:56 Scalability and Customization in Private Markets32:38 Structuring Customization with Scalability33:05 Educational Component in Client Investments33:21 Framework for Custom Portfolios33:55 Resource Allocation for Customization34:07 Niche Opportunities and Large Teams34:32 Enhancing Client Relationships with OCIO34:48 Negotiating Fees and Structuring Solutions35:03 Next Innovation in Investment Solutions35:24 Turnkey Solutions for Operational Complexities36:26 Model Portfolios and Unique Strategies37:25 Combining OCIO and Wealth Management Practices38:23 Innovations in Structuring Solutions38:45 Workflows in Private Markets39:31 Client Experience and Technology Integration40:30 Importance of Definitions in Private Markets40:58 Private Capital and Real Assets42:06 Relaying Information and Expectations42:42 Role and Goal of Investments43:03 Evolution of Alternatives and Private Markets45:13 Partnerships and Mergers at Cerity Partners48:08 Evaluating Managers: Art and Science50:11 Trust and Long-term Partnerships52:28 Manager's Edge and Structural Benefits54:49 Training and Mentoring in Manager Selection57:21 Challenges and Opportunities for Managers59:31 Favorite Alternative Investments01:02:28 Closing Remarks and Final ThoughtsEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant. 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