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EPISODE · Jun 22, 2026 · 1H 55M

Ch. IV (pp. 19–23) - The body is the other process that goes on

from Learning A Process Model · host Nicholas Montaño and Joey Massengale

The time has come to start defining the body in our little APM model. Chapter IV represents the real cliff of difficulty, but we hope the way we dive into the material will support you. Furthermore, I (Nicholas) aim to show in this episode how some of the most challenging aspects of this section come from genuine difficulties in talking properly about reality. That rather than Gendlin being obtuse, it is instead just challenging to think in the kind of ways Gendlin is thinking.It will be so worth it.If you hit a meaningful snag in this episode, please let us know! Joey and I discussed some ways we could make future episodes even more accessible without diluting the content, but we'd still love to hear from you.Happy IV-ing! (This is where things get really fun 🙂).{Paragraph scheme: top of the page always means paragraph 1. This will be changing in future episodes.}00:00 - Intro01:11 - p. 20, subsection (a): The body (when a process stops) is what continues...01:50 - p. 20, paras. 1–2: We will now define a stopped process.05:13 - p. 20, paras. 3–4: Until now, we had no way to speak about the seemingly separable...06:54 - p. 20, para. 5: Let me first say that not every change is a stopped process.08:54 - p. 20, para. 6: What continues is different than if there was no stoppage.14:50 - p. 20, para. 7: A stopped process is a changed implying carried by a changed occurring.18:49 - pp. 20–21, paras. 8–1: The differently ongoing process includes some unchanged implying which implies the object.21:28 - p. 21, para. 2: The carried stoppage is the body-version of the missing object.23:35 - p. 21, continuing para. 2: For the same reason I also want to call the carried stoppage the "schema".26:17 - p. 21, para. 3: I have already said that "recognize" is used "too early" here.29:42 - p. 21, para. 4: We are setting up a new convention of the living body...35:26 - p. 21, para. 5: If the stoppage is new, what continues has never occurred before...37:25 - p. 21, para. 6: Were there "two" processes before one of them stopped?41:15 - p. 21, para. 7: What continues would not be new if...52:06 - p. 21, paras. 8–10: We can also see novelty developing, if we consider this...55:24 - pp. 21–22, paras. 11–1: If there are many stoppages and resumptions, there will be many processess...58:33 - p. 22, paras. 3–4: In our new model the processes are originally and inherently coordinated.1:07:23 - p. 22, paras. 5–6: Therefore, how any one of them is, at a certain moment...1:27:00 - p. 22, para. 7: It is an empirical question whether all processes imply each other in this way...1:29:56 - pp. 22–23, paras. 8–3: When one defines separated processes or bodily "systems"...1:54:11 - Outro

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