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EPISODE · Feb 14, 2022 · 20 MIN

Chagigah 5: Seeing the Pain in God's Hidden Face

from Talking Talmud · host Yardaena Osband & Anne Gordon

The story of R. Yochanan who encounters a man who is picking less ripe figs and leaving the ripe figs. And the rationale and value of picking the figs that weren't quite ready becomes a springboard for some heavy hitting philosophical discussion of how God takes some people before their time, the question of hidden wrong-doing, and the possibility of trusting people that nothing inadvertently wrong has taken place. The object lesson is found in the trust Rava gives his wife, who (as it happens) is the daughter of R. Hisda. Also, more on the see-and-be-seen aspect of this mitzvah, and how it compares to Hester Panim, God's hidden face in the world, and the Jewish experience over all. Note again, the anthropomorphism. And God's pain, as it were. Plus, the story of R. Kahana hiding under Rav's bed.

The story of R. Yochanan who encounters a man who is picking less ripe figs and leaving the ripe figs. And the rationale and value of picking the figs that weren't quite ready becomes a springboard for some heavy hitting philosophical discussion of how God takes some people before their time, the question of hidden wrong-doing, and the possibility of trusting people that nothing inadvertently wrong has taken place. The object lesson is found in the trust Rava gives his wife, who (as it happens) is the daughter of R. Hisda. Also, more on the see-and-be-seen aspect of this mitzvah, and how it compares to Hester Panim, God's hidden face in the world, and the Jewish experience over all. Note again, the anthropomorphism. And God's pain, as it were. Plus, the story of R. Kahana hiding under Rav's bed.

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