Change Starts with Curiosity: Understanding Malaysia's Orang Asli Communities with Joseph Koh

Join us in this enlightening episode of the "Lead Change Heart Way" podcast as our host, Koo Lily, speaks with Joseph Koh. Delving into the intricacies of social change, Joseph shares his dual role in NGO work and HR leadership, emphasizing the significance of curiosity in understanding community needs. He reflects on his experiences with the Orang Asli, offering unique insights into their challenges and cultural contributions. Key takeaways include:- The importance of curiosity: Discover how a simple act of curiosity can lead to profound understanding and impactful actions.- Sustainability in communities: Explore how self-motivation among marginalized groups is essential for real change.- Understanding cultural history: Gain insights into the dynamics of indigenous communities and the misconceptions surrounding them.Connect with our Joseph Koh on LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/josephkohlivesmatter/Connect with our Founder Koo Lily on LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/koolily/About the host Koo Lily: Koo Lily founded mq Training two decades ago with a simple belief: transformation begins with people. With over 30 years of experience, she has worked with global enterprises, leading financial institutions, and industry giants across Oil & Gas, Retail, IT, Services, and Manufacturing—helping leaders grow, cultures strengthen, and organizations change in meaningful ways.Her approach combines Training, Coaching, and Consulting, delivering practical solutions that are relevant and aligned with business goals. Along the way, she has guided 500+ corporate clients and 15,000 leaders and professionals across Asia, always weaving in the values of Humanity, Empathy, Authenticity, Resilience, and Trust.As a Heart-Centred Speaker, Inner Change Advocate, and Leadership Coach, Lily draws on art, storytelling, and authentic presence to create experiences that move people. Her book, LEAD CHANGE HEART WAY, written during the pandemic, reflects her own journey of self-discovery and invites readers to embrace change through reflection and renewal.𝐋𝐨𝐨𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐨 𝐝𝐫𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐥, 𝐬𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 𝐟𝐮𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐇𝐄𝐀𝐑𝐓—𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠, 𝐜𝐨𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠, 𝐇𝐞𝐀𝐑𝐓 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐬𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬, 𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠?Feel free to contact me or visit our socials✉ [email protected] 📞 +60 19-314 2188🌐 Websitehttps://www.koolily.net/📸 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/koo.lily/📸 Facebook https://www.facebook.com/koo.lilyAbout mq Training Coaching Consulting At mq Training, we believe that true transformation happens through people. We focus in helping organisations' people and culture development through:✔ Leadership Development – From self-mastery to leading teams and organizations✔ Establishing a Coaching Culture – Embedding coaching principles across all levels✔ Customer-Centric Culture – Shaping mindsets and behaviors across the organization, inside out✔ Leading Change – Fostering positivity and resilience in transformation✔ Effective Communication – Elevating clarity, influence, and engagementConnect with MQ Training Coaching ConsultingConnect with us on LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/mqtrainingcoachingconsulting/?viewAsMember=true🌐 Websitehttps://mq.com.my/Sign up for our weekly newsletter, give yourself a dose powerful learning and reflectionshttps://mq.com.my/contact-us/Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/MQTrainingCoachingConsulting/**Timestamp Chapters**:00:00 - Introduction: Understanding Change01:18 - Meet Joseph Cole: NGO Work & HR Leadership04:16 - The Role of Curiosity in Community Work11:02 - First Encounters with the Orang Asli19:12 - The Importance of Cultural Understanding26:15 - Land Ownership and Community Challenges30:00 - Call to Action: Curiosity in Your Community