Changing Aging (S5 | E198)

Changing Aging (The Open Nesters Podcast Season 5 | Episode 198) Changing Aging [Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we dive deep into the transformative journey of redefining what it means to be an open nester, guided by the insights of Dr. Bill Thomas and his daughter Jude Thomas. We explore the multifaceted dimensions of aging, tackling the misconception that this stage of life is marked solely by decline. Instead, we present it as an opportunity for growth, adventure, and enrichment in every aspect of life, including relationships, spirituality, and creativity. Dr. Thomas, an influential figure in geriatric medicine and the founder of the Eden Alternative, shares how his life’s work has been driven by the belief that aging can be seen through a positive lens. Rather than managing decline, he encourages us to cultivate environments where growth and vitality can flourish. Together with Jude, they reflect on personal experiences that shaped their understanding of elderhood, including the poignant lessons learned from their daughters, who have navigated life with extraordinary challenges. Their stories emphasize the wisdom acquired through love, adversity, and the uncompromising value of each moment. Read Bill and Jude’s work on Ageism Jude Meyers Thomas (Born September 23, 1959) is an American advocate and educator whose work has centered on improving the well-being of older people with a focus on promoting inclusion for people of all abilities. She is the co-founder of multiple long-term care reform efforts including, The Eden Alternative, The Green House Project, The Pioneer Network, and Minka Homes and Communities. She married Dr. Bill Thomas in 1993 and their first child was born in 1994. Soon after her birth, Haleigh Jane Thomas was diagnosed with a rare neurological condition known as Ohtahara Syndrome. A second daughter, Hannah O’Hara Thomas, was born with the same condition in 1997. Hannah died of complications related to the syndrome in 2015. A healthy third child, Caleb James Thomas, was born in 1999. Her work caring for her daughters had a significant impact on her outlook and advocacy for people living with differing abilities. An Excerpt from the Interview [Jude Thomas] We have such an amazing group of friends of all ages. My son, Caleb, our youngest, 22 years old, his friends love coming and hanging out with us as much as my friends who are in their eighties and nineties. I didn’t have that when I was in my thirties. All of my friends were just about the same as me. You just thought you had to hang out with people your own age. I love that it has opened a door for me to be friends engaged with people of all ages and all abilities. I’m really proud of that. As we discuss what it means to embrace the open nesting stage, we reflect on the joys of discovering new passions and redefining relationships. The hosts, Amir and Tessa, share their personal narratives of how this transition allows for creative expressions—be it painting, writing, or music—while fostering deeper connections with people of various ages. Dr. Thomas highlights the importance of playfulness and intentionality in our lives, encouraging listeners to explore interests that reignite joy and curiosity previously overshadowed by obligations. The conversation also tackles significant topics such as anti-ageism and the necessity for a cultural shift in how society perceives the aging process. By sharing practical insights based on decades of collaborative work in elder care, they prompt reflections on how we can create supportive communities that recognize the vitality of older adults while breaking free from conventional, limiting narratives. Lastly, there’s an invitation for listeners to engage with this idea of creating a life filled with purpose and openness. Whether it’s through cultivating friendships across generations, exploring new hobbies without hesitation, or participating in ecstatic dance, the message is clear: this chapter of life is filled with potential and creativity. Resources for You We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group ask to join and we’ll let you in