EPISODE · Oct 23, 2025 · 30 MIN
Chaos Is the Glitter of Growth: Jacki Leahy on CFO Buy-In, CRO Tenure, and Fractional RevOps for Startups | The Revenue Insiders
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TL;DR: RevOps does not live to please the CRO. It exists to protect the revenue engine. In this fiery conversation, Jacki Leahy argues for CFO-level alignment, one big change per quarter, and why fractional RevOps beats a too-junior first hire for early-stage startups.What we coverWhy CROs now have the shortest average C-suite tenure and what that means for RevOps“Diplomatic immunity” for RevOps and reporting lines that actually workThe quarterly “one big swing” rule based on Theory of ConstraintsReal talk on change management costs and how to calculate a payback period the CFO will green-lightWhen a fractional RevOps agency outperforms a full-time hireThe “Google Sheets empire” trap and the moment you must professionalize opsAI and GTM engineering: why tools like Clay should push you back to first principlesA spicy assignment for your calendar that will give you hours backGuestJacki Leahy, Founder of Activate the Magic, a fractional RevOps agency for early-stage startups. Follow Jacki on LinkedIn for unfiltered RevOps truth and very lively comment threads.Key takeawaysPitch RevOps initiatives in CFO language: problem size, cost, ROI, and payback periodDo one material RevOps change per quarter so you can isolate impact and unblock the true constraintExpect a temporary productivity dip with any change. Aim for initiatives that clear a 30 to 35 percent swing when you net the dip versus the upliftEarly-stage companies should pair fractional seniority with junior doers rather than hire a single under-sized “head of RevOps”Action for listenersOpen your calendar and identify recurring meetings that serve approval more than the business. Keep the ones that move revenue. Question the rest.LinksGuest: www.ActivateTheMagic.com
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