Charlie James & Jessica Brassington defend homeschooling against podcasters.

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Charlie James: Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan have a podcast, and in listening to that podcast or clips of it, they appear to be two of the most anger-filled women that I have ever heard in my life. I mean, you can just see it in their faces. There just seems to be no joy about them, and lately they've taken on homeschooled kids—homeschoolers. I want you to listen to what Jennifer Welch said... what the real problem is here in this country. Jennifer Welch: The dumbest people she knew in college were homeschooling their kids. And so this is trickle-down stupidity, this is MAGA on steroids, this is Mawmaw, this is tradwife, this is unvaxxed and unjacked and all that [expletive]. This is the worst, worst, worst, and this [expletive] is America has a crazy Christian problem. We have a fundamental crazy Christian problem. Charlie James: This is Angie Sullivan. Angie Sullivan: I just think homeschooling is a bad idea from soup to nuts. I don't care if you're a nuclear physicist, I think it's just [expletive] weird as [expletive] that you want your kids around you all day, every day, and all night. And just the socialization... Charlie James: Yeah, yeah, like I've said, I've met a lot of homeschooled kids. They are the most socialized kids in the world. Joining us right now is Jessica Brassington. She is with Mama Bears Rising. Jessica, thanks for joining us this afternoon. Jessica Brassington: Hi Charlie, thanks for having me. Charlie James: So you've been kind of low-key on your response to these two. Um, what's going on? Jessica Brassington: So, I take the approach that I don't—I don't give attention to ignorance or stupidity. I choose to focus on uh the positive and the stories of the women who, for this example, this is one small example of what I believe parents have the right and freedom to choose as their—how their children are educated. Uh I choose to highlight the people who have homeschooled. Uh myself included, I've done a mix of public school, private school, and homeschool with all three of my children, and not give that the attention. I think a lot of people are sadly that's what they're doing to get a rise out of people and and get the clicks, it sounds like. Charlie James: So I mean, and that's one of the big—that's like the big talking point, these kids aren't socialized. But like I tell everybody, when we've got friends that homeschool their kids, and you can actually sit down and have a conversation with them. You don't get grunted at and their faces aren't buried in a phone or a tablet. Jessica Brassington: Yes, sir. And one thing, my girls now are 22, 21, and 17, and one of the comments that would be made regularly when I had my girls out with me was, "Wow, your children are looking me in the eyes, and they're they're engaging and they're initiating," because you need to look at it, one one way that would help is if you are forced to be in a building in a room sitting next to people, are those your friends, or is that a forced situation? Whereas homeschool children have to actually initiate and go out and forge friendships. They're not uh surrounded by necessarily peers all day in a forced situation. So even even from that perspective, it puts the onus on the homeschool child to take initiative. Charlie James: You know, one of the the big things that employers are looking for, and one of the things that they say are really is really missing from the workforce, are the soft skills, the interpersonal skills, the ability to um you know just be pleasant at work. How did your uh kids uh your daughters do in the workforce when they started going to work? Jessica Brassington: Well, and this is one of the beautiful things. Um all three of my children are different, and that is one of the reasons that I believe home allowing the child the parent to make those decisions for their children is so important, because what works for one child may not work for another. And all three of my children have taken v ...

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