Hi friends the world got you down don't be sad listen to two dollar late feet with Zack and Dustin two dollar late fee is the podcast that celebrates the Best decade of entertainment the 1980s we pick a movie and soundtrack from our youth that we loved and see if it holds up today We also review your favorite celebrities from there all in the spirit of positivity and togetherness check us out at two dollar late fee Dot-com everybody welcome to another episode of our movie night We are at Monster Mania sitting in the hotel room and we've got a small audience of our friends Jackie Joe and Kyle But the guest on this week's episode is one half of the Fright School podcast Joshua Hello Before we dive in to the movie of this week cheerleader camp how about you give us a real quick rundown on what is Fright School? So Fright School is this project that I do with my friend Joe who had never been a fan of four and ever seen anything ever Well, he saw the ring so Yeah, and we were talking one day I think we were watching American Horror Story and he was like, you know, we kept my other friends are all big horror nerds And so we kept talking about how you know American Horror Story references all this American Horror and he didn't know we were talking about So we're like, hey, let's show you these movies and we'll talk about their socio-cultural political whatever, you know Context that they are in and it also tends to have a pretty queer band because we're queers You're blowing my mind right now, but I gotta say though, I'm surprised you're not So is my wife So I do have to say though that I'm super Happy with the way the Fright School works because you don't get to bog down in the socio Social implications of horror to not have it be entertaining your pacing is very good So anybody who listens to her movie night you will enjoy Fright School because they're basically us but smart Right, but you know you got Brian Kelly over here really dragging down the average That's basically my intro for Brian Kelly to do his laugh. So that worked out perfectly I will say I really really love the first like now the show. There's like this cool 20 30 minutes at the start It's just like you and Joe catching up Super entertaining every week like I do want to know what's going on Alright, so it's just Joe trying to derail us so that he doesn't have to actually face the worries watch Let's talk about drag race Because that's what we do too.
It's alright speaking of things that are gay It's perfect that you're on the cheerleader camp episode one of the campiest films pun intended that we've ever watched on I mean, it's it's no sleep way camp, but it's up there. It might be a little more self-evident It was something it's really doesn't remember to be a horror movie at the start We have a good 40 minutes of like dramedy like in dramedy and then we get oh People it's kind of you to call it teen dramedy. It's just feels like it's a meatballs movie It really is fucking the balls. Holy shit I'm gonna be broke my rules for Beetlejuice because I didn't put the work in the girls boyfriend is just Kmart fucking Beetlejuice I Try because I'm a huge fan of Beetlejuice and I love that like Beetlejuice derailment every time like we gotta talk You know, we gotta talk about so I was looking like how can you connect this to people?
I feel like you're so close by You know what I'm gonna give you a pass because you've done it for almost 100 movies or no I'm sorry almost 60 movies. So we're just gonna let you like off the hook here pal It's gonna be a rough go this weekend because I don't usually watch movies while I'm traveling Yeah, so since we're alive. This is like a live in my first monster mania by the way Oh, yes, she's yeah, and we can't give him any sort of drugs to calm down So he's basically living off of like adrenaline and Yeah, I only experienced it for 20 minutes and I love it already because it's like do you remember those like goth girls in high school? It used to pick on and then got really hot there are the ones that didn't oh Oh Full steampunk and it's like a lot a lot of trench coats outside.
I'm talking about the smoking session guys I'm sure everyone in the lobby is beautiful I Bring some completely different crowd and you're going to be like I retract everything I said Because I had a steampunk girl say move So now all the beautiful women at monster mania. I am just bitter. I am a bitter man It's okay because you can be bitter with every other woman in the world now, but you're engaged hello Congrats somebody's gonna marry you I thought he did a bunch of push-ups on the plane and that's why when I saw him it gave a hug I was like your biceps feel good So cheerleader camp cheerleader camp after bear cub camp so we start with like some killer pom-pom nightmare Yeah with Betsy Russell Jill talking saw which I really liked right away I know her face there's a real lull in her career when I was checking on I'm familiar and she did nothing of note from like 1988 till 2005 Yeah, the funniest part about that is that the both of you have like this. Oh, I know this person Terry Wigall is the person 90s eight ladies are like oh my god that explains everything about her Acting chops because they're just abysmal.
Yeah, she's like the worst There's a lot of it before the breast augmentation. So she's just like I don't even have fake cleavage to keep you Talking about the top of scenes in this movie. There's a weird like battling topless scene Yeah, girls topless the other girls like well, I'll see about that and then also takes off her top So that's never happened at cheerleader camp or any camp ever in the history of humankind So don't get your hopes up heterosexual white men that are watching this though. It is just This movie is like there's dragon is so crazy weird and they're all like oh you yeah There's no there's no such thing as like rape in this movie There are no responsibilities nobody has a response nobody there are nothing happens if you're a complete sexual predator So strange because they're just like why should we be scared?
He's a 30 year old man with a camera following us around in cheerleader. Yeah, he's very creepy So he did get Winnie the pooed during the moon drive by I've never seen a 12 inch crack So it's also weird is that like you guys remember Brian were you only we did killer party? Oh, that was Dylan wasn't it so Dylan was on when we did killer party and there is so much like rapey Fabro bullshit in that movie. It's a great flick but like Calm down Great evil dead rip off minus the rapey frappros in it and that dude in this movie like that This is becoming a common theme in horror.
I don't get that shit about anyone. There's not a person that's worth caring about Yeah, maybe when I get later in my notes, I'll be like oh I think I did start using names, but I'm so disconnected from the movie now that like I don't remember who these names refer to and that's not good You don't care about each other people keep dying No You know I'd actually like this movie more if it was a dream because it has that dream logic shit that you expect but Missing an incredibly important scene here because it's a part joke because I mean you know I had actually But not even admitted into this movie. There's a panty shot and I don't know what I expected Because it's called cheerleader camp maybe they're not panties, but they're like the what do you call them? Those little skitties that girl the Spanx the girls wore over their panties when they're cheerleaders because you know when you're wearing a six inch skirt And your ass is five inches long, you know, you're gonna show some but when you do a high kick, but this movie is it's a really weird amalgamation of misogyny and Complete granola.
Yeah, you know like it's the most I'm sorry. Oh meal. It's not even granola There's no sugar to this movie it is plain fucking oatmeal at room temperature 90% of the flick except for a couple like Solacious moments and some kills and some pretty sweet tween between teen witch level rapping Oh my god, no, it's not since teen witch have we seen such painful wide rapping are you kidding? Delicious Is baller it's one of those things where it's like the rapping sounds like her name is Brenda.
She's no pretender You know that that's not even episode without taking the opportunity to write down that shit and then wrap it to us because he is the White is rapper ever yeah watch out. Mrs. Tipton's is the nickname of the of the of the cheerleader the head the what we want I like the coach or something of the who's like the John Water School of acting like yeah I think she did I kept thinking she was in a John Waters movie I was too so John Waters. Yeah, yeah, I was waiting for the line to like show up It was she was so alive at this time.
She had a chance. I don't know I feel like she saw the the scripting She was like there's no shitting in this movie I don't want it right and so they found the next best thing which is a woman who could pretend to be a cheerleader And then the sheriff could pretend to be the football player and they could have an extended fetish sex scene Which is just so odd. I mean it's so pinky and so odd like it goes on for six. Yeah, what's being murdered around them?
It's yeah Brian. I've got your Beetlejuice by the way. Oh, I just remember that Madden I just wrote this down. I forgot the fat guy in this movie his name is Tim his character's name is Tim He plays the fat clown in Batman Returns that the penguin shoots.
Oh wow serious Yeah, so everything matches that so the fat guy in this movie his name is Tim and he plays the clown and Batman returns With Michael Keaton wasn't Beetlejuice. I look that up myself and delivered it to you because that's what I do guys So what is so that's so weird the bad guy went from being it's not so weird Right like he he got to be a super inflet. Yeah, but he's a no-name clown. Is that the comic gets the dynamite?
No, no, no, that's the one that literally says like Joker Hang around about oh and then he shoots him and rolls him into the water his character is literally named fat clown Do you think that matter for that movie? It's all about pros and cons It's like when that super attractive woman sleeps with you, but she doesn't want anyone to know and have to keep it a secret This is a rolling theme in our podcast. I think it's gonna only happen more and more opposite as we are closer to the wedding. Yeah Jade was that super attractive Did anyone write down any quotes on the movie that they wanted to shout out?
Yeah, I've got two of them honey on her muffin I don't even know we are 40 minutes into an 85 minute movie with one kill And I also have a note that this movie will be 30 minutes long if not for all the dream sequences Oh, really? Yeah unreasonable. I wrote down your a mascot not a human was a quote that I have yeah And also the one cheerleader cuz I read a story about this to train and what it taught me was that if we think we can then we probably can Okay, so is am I the only person that feels like the mascot's eating lunch part is the best part of the movie? Oh, it's so funny.
It is this movie does not know what it wants to be it wants to be a teen fret sex comedy It wants me to write it wants me meatballs or like fucking porkies to you. Yeah, but then someone gets shears in the back of the skull Oh shit, I like that. I was the best kill I really that was the best kill That was better kill than that and cheerleader. Yeah, certainly not slashing people up with pom poms in a nightmare Yes, the razor blade pom.
You know, I like the okay, so the concept of razor blade pom poms is sweet But I think that the execution is so disappointing. Yeah, yeah, I don't know I am not an expert I am not a filmmaker. I cannot I'm not a producer. I have no idea how much this movie cost or made $10 and 22 There's there's just man Oh, man, what you are so low energy like I can continue it's just kind of there This so this movie starts really fun and then it becomes insufferable because they really don't crank it up at all It's like they have the same level of camp as in the first 20 minutes as I do in the last 40 But they never really to do camp you have to like have to crank it up, right?
Like that's kind of the whole point of campus so like okay We establish the level of ridiculousness and then we have to move it up a couple The only the only other like truly ridiculous thing that happens in this movie is like there's no fucking way that band would ever get Both to play cheer My my quarrel is much more immature than yours. Are you talking about the fact that the fat fuck like drinks an entire bottle of water? Which is supposed to be vodka and then it's like Ridiculous that's better than what's actually bothering me. What's actually bothering me is what justifies a camp because there is three groups of cheerleaders They should have had twice the cast so this is me to make it work because yeah, you're right There are nine girls in this movie like three groups.
Oh, no I'm sorry there might be 15 because I think there are three groups of five and they're like no one of you can be queen And there's no explanation for why Tim or Brett are at this care Because they're the throwers at least are they the throwers because they look like the yeah at least rent Fox Cleaning up and why is the survivor girl like with him because it makes no sense. She doesn't even like him He's always trying to bang someone else. He has no scruples because it's like he doesn't ever question like maybe I shouldn't cheat on my girlfriend Yeah, that's the other reason it's like a really bad 80s porn with no sex like all the guys are ugly as fuck in my opinion Like all going for this guy isn't that leaf So who is Graham's gory and and he is truly the cutest girl in the entire Yeah So are we all in agreement that the mascot scenes in the mascot actress are really what make this movie watchable Yeah, and I love it. I mean obviously spoil everything But I love it she turns out to be the killer like I like the thing is that I saw a mile away I mean it was obvious, but they phone that shit in What to do she's like okay, you've got to shoot Brett and she's like, okay like No, oh his no amazing.
Well, that was like, you know, I watch it like I'm gonna come at this with the French I like oh my gosh, so the only thing I can say is like okay that girl is not Friends listening who take psychotropic medications for whatever you may have Don't let your friends tell you to stop taking it when she comes in like no more pills I'm like that girl is a problem. So like she doesn't want you to take your pills. That's not very good advice She's got to be the killer that's what I thought when I I miss anything in this film where they discuss why she is on the medication from the nightmares is what I'm gonna guess Yeah, I don't say what it is she's taking either I think but I'm still like that's not good advice. So don't stop taking it Do not stop taking medication unless ordered by a psychiatrist and general practitioner Well, I say that only because I saw on Facebook somebody asking what what essential oils can I replace my trasadone with?
The frights go perspective and I'm not presenting it. I'm Basically just doing you're suching it. I'm pitching and he's catching apparently Actually, I don't even know that about you Joe. I shouldn't say that.
Yeah, what the fuck he's not able to find himself so unfair Damn just because this is nice. It doesn't mean he's the bottom. It's true. Maybe he's verse.
You don't know these I don't I don't I don't I don't we don't talk about that. So that's a weird thing about Homosexual friends is like do you not talk about your sex life because all of my friends know my sex life ah well the promise We all see each other on the apps so you know you know you know I'm just gonna keep going you know I don't you know you don't like investigate. So so unlike grinder. Yeah, does I never been on grinder?
You know like ever since Craig's another shock ever since Craigslist is gone. There's no way for me to get some strange You know like in my neighborhood. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm grind or do they actually have like you know you go on You know like a menu.
Yeah, like is there like verse bottom? Yes all that bear. Yeah, so there's a place for the size You know people want to know it's act dimensions. So size queen is that like entire is there a way if you're a size queen to like find What's the opposite of a size queen?
Well depends on how terrible the person you are because I mean I guess if a guy's like Oh, it's nine inches and he shows up. It's clearly not and you go With it guys could never work with treatment Dude, I don't know if you're like size queen, you know like Yeah, yeah, you can you can totally go on and you guys this is so educational this is amazing This is exactly like here's a screen name and you lied about this and that next week you got it some big big asshole to fill Sorry You got some big Trojans to fill big Trojans all right, so Magnum so Hi friends the world got you down. Don't be sad. Listen to $2.00 late fee It's a disaster $2.00 late fee is the podcast that celebrates the best decade of entertainment in the 1980s We pick a movie and soundtrack from our youth that we loved and see if it holds up today We also interviewed your favorite celebrities from there all in the spirit of positivity and togetherness Check us out at $2.00 late fee.com back to back to the the queer perspective on cheerleader camp would you consider this Worth your time would you would you like would you consider this movie enough of you of like the sub genre like the John Waters ask like He doesn't have enough to make it really a cult film when you are like okay You're gonna talk to some other people that are that are into queer cinema like is this it's not really a cult classic It's pretty obscure it was a by the way Matt didn't mention but this is a listener submitted from listener So maybe explain read the email and then Joshua can like kind of get his to the person's ends I mean that was queer perspective like since it's so campy in this this the main well that this What I find it campy I mean I mean it's pretty Last week episode as of this recording No, no, no, no, what you put up what you what did you just record?
Oh? I was audition. Yeah, okay, so you guys definitely do and I know this from listen to your show But you guys definitely do a lot more serious stuff so that you can talk about socio economic You know you're way more in depth and serious than us and we're definitely going for the hahahaz because we you know dick jokes hahah That's yeah, no, it's awesome. No, it's not bad.
I'm just I know we're awesome I just always think about like I don't sound like to elitist like oh More meat I do try to find films I consider to be good and to be like a link Okay, this is good this is bad for horror of you night so as far as horror movie night goes this is pretty Lean as far as yeah, it's worthwhile memorable stuff, but it still isn't personally for me It wasn't a bad watch I didn't have to fast forward anything. I didn't feel too bored by anything the pacing wasn't bad I knew exactly what was happening. What's happening? But it felt very light.
Yeah, I like the ending shot of El I actually wrote that down. I know what it goes. I wish this movie had a bigger budget and I wish I had a bit Cast I mean I'm sure like they wrote it instead of making it up as they went along because that's like what it felt So this is the reason why I'm not so upset about that because it happens a lot I really they lose the plot about you know 30 to 40 minutes in most of the time with a way pick But there's usually something that we can kind of as I walk away I kept remembering our episode that we did with Mike from five second films on the on minix we kept saying like the movie kept forgetting to be a Movie that's how I thought watching cheerleader. Can't was like this movie doesn't know what it is and it's just taking swings at everything I think this movie would be more unwatchable if it wasn't the predecessor to the past month that we just done This is probably our worst month and that episode's a great listen and subscribe But March was a tough month of movies the movies were They're rough Yard you put the below neon maniacs which is half a movie What is the same years people just right?
I'm saying it's it's somewhat not as shitty to me to watch because of everything that it follows Definitely has more shining spots for me, you know like there's better There's a Seriously like neon maniacs has that sweet scene where the hand gets wet and then it melts like spiking gremlins Yeah, I'll see yeah, yeah, but what is cheerleader camp have Corey? Yeah, she's funny, but she's no she's no like 30 year old playing a 12 year old and you're on me Yeah, the shears in the back of the head the shears in the back That was a really cool really cool kill. I also really want a crazy old man red herring is yes crazy old man red herring Yes, we thought he was in a Rob zombie Talk and like that kind of you know hillbilly backwoods like all It has no place in this movie getting gutted I was okay with but it just looks so lazy It was so you know what I wanted from that scene was I wanted where my from five second films when he gets ripped in half and Everybody mad like he got over his fear bites We never established that if you're gonna have a guy that fat You need someone got it and it needs to be at least a 30 second scene of just more and more guts come Yeah, you know the fact that they turn him into like the fact of this movie absolutely is Relentless in fat jokes with it. Yeah, it's insane like it's a bad for guys like absolutely no Just guys women to anybody in the 80s who is fat and cast as a fat person or film They are so funny Like a literal attack on his fatness by ripping his stomach over having it pour out.
I mean it's just yeah the whole film He's just about that unless podcast on the left to Was hired and her only role in the show was for the company like look at that fat pig you're marrying wow Disgusting fat disgusting monster. Yeah, no we really always have respect for was it Chris Columbus or John He was when they did home alone for buzz his girlfriend They were like get a boy get a boy and dress him up and drag because we do not want this poor girls entire existence to be Look at how ugly he is in this photo and you know who's fat disgusting. I was buzz I saw him in blue ruin and he is not aging well now. Let's say that buzz wasn't aging well in 1990 No, but buzz he had a weird face buzz was That guy that got late most of the time the girl was probably not and in a position to consent He came off as he had that look, but he still seemed like a guy got late new buzz No, all right.
Let's is there email there was an email right? It's something about queerness Is there any other notes that anyone wants to get through before I read the email from Steve and we dive into let's do this shit No features all right so the email we got from Steve actually doesn't have a lot of it Well, there's I mean he's too far horn which is cool, but he doesn't really say a lot of why he wanted us to talk about your Camp he said I want to send a quick thank you guys your podcast has become a muscleist and for me It's always hilarious. I make sure to tell anyone I know that love harm movies They should listen my favorite episodes are sleep we camp to and demon wind special shout out to Matt Special shout out to Matt and Scott for putting in all the serious work to make this thing can keep going You know, it's my place. Yep No email no email would be complete without a couple movie suggestions I think the 80s movie cheerleader camp would be a good watch for you guys And if you want to get real wild skin deep best go into that one fresh or so I won't spoil anything But it's got some and then in quotes with a question mark great practical effects now Skin deep Matt has showed me skin deep on air.
I believe right or was that I know that was after we were We got done so so was your behind their curtain kind of you know information about how we do our podcast Normally we record on like a weekend morning and we'll record two episodes at a time And then afterwards was another half an hour to shoot the shit because man Brian of brothers and I am brother from another mother to them Now, which is awesome for me But it's like we don't know how to stop talking and so now be like hey dude have you ever seen this thing? I believe it was before we actually did sick, right? Yeah Emailed us and I was like yo let me send you this over because it's awful. Yeah, it's the dumbest shit ever seen It's like worse than any it's worse than that was that machete or the machete killing the uncle Sam right is that the yeah?
It's so the scene that I showed him uncle Sam that we discussed that kill right? So I'll just I'll try to describe this the best I can but the scene is rather than sister running away from some type of weird practical Effect monster that has axes for hands and the little boy turns around and the monster swings his ax hand and it cuts The boy and he goes half you missed and then blood starts to come down his forehead And then it cuts to a wide shot and he just splits in half entirely down the center Oh, it looks it looks like shit out of you. Hf Oh man, I see the killer kind of episode out of it. No, no, it would be that scene That's the only scene we're talking about so double features Josh you are our guest Would you like to start with what your double feature with cheerleader camp would be?
You guys go around for a time First, okay Scott. I mean I'm going the easier I was sleep away camp. All right. I mean I'm Matt you can pick sleep Wake up to no no no I had two options and neither was I just love sleep with camp I think that it's a much better much campier Take and it was earlier than cheerleader camp, but can you imagine having?
Quote what normies over to your house to be like we're gonna watch cheerleader camp and then sleep away camp for people that have never seen either And probably people we could we could get my wife in on this and we can be like yeah Yeah, it's just like light-hearted teen romp flicks from the 80s and then we have you know like the I feel like most of cheerleader camp Is pretty light and then in sleep wake camp we get the the hot water burn, which is my baby I want to baby know like bad one. Oh, yeah, baby like tea Yeah, I feel like you could really like Adam Sandler's skin. I don't feel like it's a deep cut anymore was that on That was just in our chat one. Oh man.
That really really made me question how much I hate Adam See I want to I want to like not hate him anymore for how much he gave to me for that Baby don't like to eat well. What's team made out of oh? All right, what's your double? You're gonna have to make so slow.
We don't so loud I was trying to think aside from sleep away camp. What is a movie that is kind of a comedy But has to do with camp and murder so the obvious answer is bush wax darn Daniel sir Might appear in next week's movie who might be the reason that I thought of that So because we may be watching suicide squad with shitty 90s billings So I'm I up until literally recording this episode I had every intention of picking revenge of the nerds as my double feature because this is a very rapey 80s team comedy for the most part But honestly if we're talking about campy films about cheerleaders, but I'm a cheerleader is the dog that is so disrespectful And I mean it's wonderful girl. I never remember her name, but she's the villain in Casper. Oh, yeah Yeah, Kathy Moriarty.
Yeah, she's so good Yeah, she's all warps warps like that is a John waters. Maybe the John waters just didn't get around the jacket. Yeah, totally All right, Josh. I would go with lucky McKee's 2001 version of all cheerleaders die.
Okay Hey, I love lucky McKee. I just watched that a week ago. There we go perfect. I like it That's why I'd say you know that'd be fun.
That's something I would like torture my friends with those two back to back So can you can you have any positives to say about all cheerleaders? I want to discuss it because I don't ever be a horror movie night pick I mean I like Betsy Russell in this movie He was not a fan of you I was actually really disappointed because May is one of my top ten all-time favorite horror. I think it's fun. So they're both ridiculous.
Yeah, like I just think yeah I mean it's just ridiculousness. I don't know. I think that's what I was going on. I wanted it to be more ridiculous You know, I felt like it kind of didn't go far enough for me And I guess I can say the same thing about yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I'd say with it Definitely everybody's energy could be a lot more I mean yeah, I was gonna play on that People leave your house happy I just leave my house Exactly just get out get out. No, hey, we smoke a lot of pot and hang out. So it's okay. It doesn't matter what Alright, well that was cheerleader camp from 1988 Josh.
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