Cheryl Hines: The Sad Beige Life of a Dangerous Optimist with Alison Pill and Natalie Ingraham

Cheryl Hines, wife of RFK Jr, wrote a memoir and "wrote" is used loosely in this context. Her publication team didn't do her any favors with this lightly edited, sprawling account of Cheryl's life and path to becoming the unwilling wife of the Secretary of HHS–or is he the secretary of HHR?  Cheryl doesn't understand that her choices have consequences, even as they continue to pile up, including the demise of her podcast and relationship with Tig Notaro.  Jessica talks to Natalie Ingraham and Alison Pill about the book and Cheryl's life.    Olivia Nuzzi's book Secretary of HHR Cheryl photoshoot This would have been a better cover photo RFK Poem Slate article  Like this episode? You can rate, review, subscribe, follow, share and comment! Questions about the show? Guest pitches? Email [email protected] You can buy awkward merch! You can become a Patreon member! You can watch this episode at https://www.youtube.com/@MakingItAwkwardPod Follow Jessica Wilson on Instagram @jessicawilson.msrd and TikTok @byjessicawilson   Jessica Wilson's book: It's Always Been Ours; Rewriting the Story of Black Women's Bodies