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Chief Concerns

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0:00 - Video starts 2:48 - The Kansas City Chiefs took a heartbreaking loss to the Philadelphia Eagles on MNF. Did the 23:50 - The Cincinnati Bengals took a bad loss to the Ravens on TNF and lost Burrow for the rest of the season to a wrist injury. Should the Ravens now be the favorites to come out of the AFC? 32:00 - The Denver Broncos are currently on a 4-game winning streak after starting the season 1-5. Is Russell Wilson making the case for Comeback Player of the Year? Lamar Jackson’s best shot at a SB 45:15 - The Pittsburgh Steelers took an ugly loss to the Cleveland Browns on the road and recently fired their OC. With the AFC now being more wide-open due to QB injuries should the Steelers be considered a playoff team? 1:03:05 - NBA Talk 1:31:10 - Weekly Picks 1:44:00 - Superchats Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I thought it was telling me. I was telling because talent does not win. Go to the Super Bowl in FC Championship. This is the place where sports rates are there.

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What up? No. I almost forgot the name. and that's what we're talking about and but I'm glad you guys are here with us and we appreciate it you know it's what is it this holiday week yes all that we mark as a close Thursday Thursday closing early at one p.m.

Friday so yeah yeah so but you know we here to definitely recap everything that went down last week and also take a look ahead we get but before I can get to that though Andre sent the reminder and he said that be said that if the line is or eight and two last week he would come to the show with a ski max yeah I hope he is here he is not here no no no no no no he said because I went back and watch that part he said if they win Thursday he said that they went into and they won Thursday so he'll be out here after 30 that's what he said so two and two yes oh yeah so he's kind of Thursday too people he boy sure he did he boy sure that's why I was able to explain I was like a black man let's say while we're back and why I was like who do we pick this week let me go back to the big time so I got this one came on you right that's funny that was at that point we were doing the picks we were alright cool cool but uh but yeah anyway well we'll we'll remind be so I guess and maybe because he knew he wasn't gonna be in town he included next week just as you know a backup plan but we'll see but let's jump into it man we're gonna give you guys here waiting in a longer we're gonna be able to leave and we're gonna jump right into it Monday night football the Chiefs took a heartbreaking loss to the Philadelphia Eagles on and the question is the Eagles man did they win this game with the Kc give the game away this I got another question follow up at this Kc gave this one up Kc gave now that's not to diminish what Philly big is really definitely this played a really good game but the plays that were not made where the society factor in this game had none of the panel hammer homes did everything that we always expected this man chips are down back to the wall and he makes every throw he makes every play but football is the ultimate team sport and just because I throw a perfect pass doesn't mean that you're gonna catch the perfect pass and we saw MBS drop the go ahead touchdown I think I texted in in the in our text thread where when I was watching I want to say like six five or six minutes left and it was a third and five in the back of tight I can't remember his name no agree on it it's not great over the other one yeah one of the one of the earlier so no no it was a 35 he caught that over shoulder yeah yeah pretty like yeah so it was a 35 inside route he did somebody drink all his back he saw the guy that was gonna hit him hit him right in his hands and didn't get it in my head I didn't text it might hit I'm like that's the game right there that's the game right there because they needed that first down to continue to drive eat more caught and score because a field goal would have put him up once they didn't get that I was like I it's a lot of rain you think um it shouldn't have played anything just a word so sorry just a lot so yep yep 100% um I'm saying look it's football and at the end of the day you play in the elements not everything does but Kansas City knows that they do and when the quarterback has zero issue nobody else should have a issue one drop pass okay you know I get it you know maybe got it making adjustments early in the game okay damn it's a little slicker than what I thought but outside of that is football got you got to make the adjustment something when you saw that pass in the air that my home's through to MBS at what point did you realize it was gonna be a drop when you realized it was MBS when I saw it was MBS I can't I promise you I'm not being funny this guy drops more passes than anybody in football I say it all the time I was I was I was mad about that watching the game like how was this dude in in the league steel that was horrible and it's not it's not fair to pass you know it's not fair to serve and and we can go back with the take and talk about this beginning of the season he has no number one and no number two him and Scott Moore combined caught one pass before yards she's one pass before yards and other top two receivers now she writes get some burn but he's a backup steal yeah she writes they said it last night on the tellcast uh out of all of his pass catches only five will be on ten yards yeah they give niggas to the young stream type you know sort of things and you know what you do even cadarias Tony he's a rich man cadarias know 100% 100% so yeah man like watching that game last night and you know I got to get props to me I don't understand what they're doing with the talent around the home because realistically I started that old line who are they paying because client was hilarious about the Jones Oh he's talking about all the offices we pay he doesn't even the high plate I didn't really but I'll take the high plate court you know your top tackle he's with the fingers though yep so who are you paying you know I had a lot of confidence and in Cadarias from Tony coming into the season or you got the off season you know that other trap like everybody that catches on that squad minus Kelsey is trapped it's ultimately about arrogance and we talk about that too is there's super arrogant you know you got that's quarterback in the league make anybody look good but you can't you can't lose other guy hands on you can't you cannot in the bad thing about it is he threw a pick so he's in that he made him to say but the thing about that is it's okay if you were to throw a pick sometimes you should be able to make that up make it up he can't he has to be he's the one quarterback in the league the one that has to be perfect if Patrick Mahomes is off other than the same reason that I fit yeah other than the same resident defense not a defense yeah they stepped up big time this year as opposed to any other year but their office is suffering tremendously and it didn't have to you could write in several different receivers to play you could look at this point let's be honest and I understand that he just had his first one of your game in like a year and so he's going to be jacked I know exactly like let's be on like a cab doo they can't do that they can't let's be honest OBJ could have read past the same way a V s the MVS is faster than it all I don't think OBJ can get open anymore she we see that did you see him in the sun yeah did you not see him that's when we nine no no no no no no no no no he was in the league until this last week yeah no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no we're not expecting OBJ to be the number one guy that we have the revisionist history of being that's not the expectation the expectation to get open three four times again yes this team drops nine percent of the passes thrown in them which is by far the highest in the league 26 total for the season six more than the next two well that's unacceptable and the fact that he can't rely on it outside weapons I mean you can basically to set the box and we in Nick talked about something else too about this game it was very important not just this game but the thing that the chief suffered with the thing that they suffered with is they run pacheco in the first half and they don't have that completely ignore every single game any rate you even know that it's so good I don't get it I don't understand it especially when the run is working yeah if it's working why I'm bad it yeah he goes that guy pacheco should be the number one back pacheco I don't know if you can give him about 30 times a game but can you give him 15 or 25 touches yes because he could catch oh he runs hard is that look if I'm not saying he is this player but I haven't seen a person run that hard since Marshall Ridge bro like somebody that's like hey you know I'm running through you come on you too I'm gonna take you like he don't care like he runs literally with reckless abandon yeah and he has speed a lot of speed guys you know let me go down I don't want to get he's searching for contact he is what that you know he is he's not as good um when he was the guy but Kareem Hunt he's there Kareem Hunt yeah he's a poor man Eric Dickinson because he runs real high he does legs and that high stepping but he's effective he is and he should definitely start they should always start in second half with him run in the second part of that game that was the strongest on the office of Simon's patch from home scrambling you know other than that he's in trouble you know Travis Kelsey's injured a little bit I don't know people notice but he's ankle is still a little messed up and you know he got to tell the swift stuff going home he was had a good game for him too but yeah they had a really good scheme I asked your question I think the Chiefs lost this game was on the Eagles morning and with everything y'all are saying about the Chiefs I still would pick them as the favorites and they have so I don't you even see him people dropped him passes even seeing that Kelsey may not be what he was last year you may just be going to a slope I still think that they have a steam and I see like you say back to our patch from our homes so I mean he was played well but y'all been only going to call down he was been up and down I got one loss but so I really can't say much but y'all have a good all season no they have not they're not put together a complete game and that was a tough game and I'll say that environment was to come out with a victory was just as much and they're not the good thing about his end I pleased with it but morally there's no way expecting win a game I don't know if y'all noticed this but that's 80 I would even imagine being in that place that place was rocking I was a playoff game and every time that he goes out the ball it was definitely you can hear it through the TV I'm like this is ridiculous for NFL game they don't go like that you know she's probably got to know what home feel that's you know it's that was that was incredible in the rain benefit of the Chiefs because once again you're at home you can hear and say this is you know everything is going your way they had every opportunity to win that game but the Eagles deserve a lot of credit because in the second half the defense always makes adjustments and they always make plays when they have to just when they have to and that's both sides of the ball they had worse game ever but on that one drive you can count on one of them too he can get the ball to one of those guys they gonna make a play and then you can count on the defense step it up they've done it they've done it the whole season it's something you said it's funny I want to touch on real quick I agree they are still the favorites because of Pat Mahomes the thing I just when you watch it like trying to describe it to somebody you be like now you making that sit up like no you have to watch Pat Mahomes because he has the most uncanny ability to just get enough space it's not like Lamar it's like oh there he the fastest dude you know shake the big three guys and make everybody look stupid make people look stupid but it's in a way that it's like that you couldn't hit him oh there you can get arm on him or you could you could trip him up and it's just like he just gets just enough every time it's ridiculous it's like he knows and um because how is what's talking about it's like oh he knows every angle he knows every day it's like he does it's ridiculous that's a fact even even that throw and this wasn't even a run the throw like he knew uh the safety um he had the last uh Hispanic last night I can't think of his name name but they're strong safety wait to the pick no like no no blake is the kicker um that's your white dude safety all right so blake iship then he was coming as a free runner Pat Mahomes knew he just looked at him through the prettiest corner out to the to the title of somebody right my grub grub so you're not panicking I know you're not panicking you don't panic she is she is don't ever scare you who who scares you yeah on this side to dethrone him issue i had this one to talk about later we can talk about it and talk about this the guy named Raymond we need to start looking at a more jasmine like he's he's he has a better record he has an elite defense that can be crept like to these guys that can't get open against bombs why not them um mvp the a fc is down per nik this is his and pet my home doesn't know with it yeah this is his best opportunity can but if you tell me that the game is 2020 and mohomes got two minutes to vote it's too time else they went in the game right they went in if the shoes on the other foot i'm like well i don't know you know i'm not as confident i'm more confident with my home if they had not gotten their ass is kicking we came in here saying they would have best team in the league the next week the last year when we started talking about them being the best team in the league when i got hurt the reason i feel like that what me i speak for that i'm hesitant on them is because i feel like something gonna happen i feel like not jinxing but something happened with lamar as far as not being able to be there someone happened with people who weren't expecting them to get beat again it's just like they could never see over deal what does that say about lamar what does that say about this mpp that everybody can scream about it it's the same thing you said about him before it wasn't it too that said that he like the fourth quarter's come and we see a different that was you right there it's true you know in time in the fourth quarter that's when we see a lot of mistakes being made that's when you see team like the cleaver game was the perfect example cleaver was out of that game that game was over i turned it i stopped watching it because it was no real need to continue why it's this game you flip back over and it's like okay let's go to the end you know girls pick that's all that's going to get so lamar's not but you don't look like it's not like hearing to be that way so a lot of these actually can't if you talk about seeing him versus Patrick well hopefully i wouldn't ever yeah yeah a lot of these guys are for a lot of these a lot of these a lot of these nine percent of the quarterbacks of the league right now for runners and i say that because when when it was the least on a day is everybody can you stand array most of them can't we know passion for homes can i say about for sale no i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna say you is that's it's not a from behind with elite he's been down every game this year right saying is good is that that's why you can't put him in at 90 percent at two percent time we talk about no no no you got the skill says you know you know it and i'm like we come back every year this year category with Joe burrow it is come back and then free game this year okay what Joe burrow then what is Joe burrow come back from Joe burrow been doing this league at LSU what what what what you come back from what you been doing winning what we talking about winning we're talking about answering the call and answering the mail to adversity which one of these what what what Joe burrow i would say Joe burrow that's you look based off of the numbers you got put gentle hurts in the conversation yes are you confident in it i know i'm not why would you only Shelton is why would you not be but you can't put taking a hurt to the conversation with Patrick my homes and uh Joe burrow because he's proving in this season he proves everything he's been down in all his games he's driving down he's going to play and touch that this happens to play on the best team like he's been playing on the best team since he was at alibar as he's what it is you can't do it if he's not talented i'm not saying if there's another tier right below those two coming back win from Joe burrow what's the game what's the game you just came back on the left didn't he just not do it that's not so the eagles the eagles have six this is 2023 season right yes he goes have six come back wins the season um two fourth quarter come back wins the season so if that's the case we're gonna put can't pick it in there yeah he clutch yes he's in no we got no no he's coming up come up wins four four he has four more more put back wins talking about jay and i see we confusing the conversation is not a conversation about who's the most talented none of it we say who the most clutch when it come when the game is on the line the ball is in your hands are you gonna be able to drive your team down to feel so let me ask you this come back so do you feel Tim Tebow and NFL was clutch then mmm Tim Tebow was some team on the playoff game he won eight games like eight straight games yeah thank you and he came back in the fourth so so look the reason why I bring him up is because and I understand your argument and you make about a point you can't conflate different topics to throw it into one piece of gumbo I agree about clutch clutch in my opinion is it just um quote unquote winning the game because i mean we throw in the game but i don't believe that he's not keeping him in every game he's not keeping him in every game that's the difference between him and jail and hurt so you want to go jail and hurt there as number three I'll stuck in number two and all of you don't say two don't even say Joe Baro came back on the only damn you talk about this year don't get me say Joe Baro came back on the Seattle he won a game 1713 I watched that game and he been watching Joe Baro so he came back yeah i've been watching he came back he showed him let me just talk about games this year he played the browns browns beating 23 yeah no answers Ravens beating 2724 the bar came back on him they beat the Rams 1916 it was okay game and the Titans Tennessee with these situations between 27 and 3 what are you trying to say i'm saying it there's nothing no clutch wins that's it we just oh we just we just i was like oh no no no no no no no wait time i'm telling Joe Baro is up there i'm not tripping off his town at all we're just talking about being clutched this year in the NFL well we also got four we're gonna get to them in a second oh browns got three come back four come back these are four come back so you know um these are good stats but you know there's other stuff you're gonna add it to it but yo i don't know i'm i'm just like they know they know that's not not buying j-mory stuff okay man bros gonna put number the left yeah well i don't like me and it was like no it was no it was yeah but but stats you can you can make stats say anything yeah you want to make story i know what i'm just statistics i see i know what's the name of these decks to say whatever bro you can make them no stay on whatever story you want to tell what you want to say exactly y'all what's game but uh but yeah i think i think you know he has a great situation i think you said it best he's taking advantage of a situation he's put in you know and uh it is what it is but um but yeah uh so my thing is you know i think there is time to panic in kansas city i think that for me this is the marjorie jacks this year it's super full of best for him you got to get to super full this year patrimah homes is a wounded animal out there right now running around with it you right you cannot because what if they make improvements of the rosen next year and then he gets receivers like oh he needs one really just one yeah you know you get one then your window so right and then you get joe burrow coming back next year you got yeah you got to be erom roger's that's when everything's right and it's daily getting fired the charges you got to head coach so let me ask you this kid who is the second team say the Ravens don't put it off who else is a threat to city in a fc to you it's got to be for them to panic it's got to be more than one threat oh no because i was looking at this today we were having our discussion because if it's one team they got to panic now we just got to be one team then that's anything happens yeah i was gonna say you're not gonna say you're not gonna say you're not gonna say you're not gonna say you're not gonna say you're he's every i was complaining i didn't think he's just he's just got back he just well two picks thought he was washed i we said everybody he was right he was right by the way whatever yeah i don't know you know i just already we're all in everybody in the damn chair i thought he was not he was he was he was already declining before the injury it looked like he must have more played what was he yeah it was yeah it was all way but what i'm saying is the dolphins i was i was probably the next most straight what about the bills they get there right now because we'll be more concerning to me than the dolphins and only reason like i said when two even when they were here to here the dolphins were no match will or continue like that every every type every top team they played they struggled yeah to me the bills um i've been steadfast on it on this point is they're imploding they are literally imploding and i don't believe that when come play off time you know you want to play your best football against play i'm trying to have not play their best football at all and i don't see them improving what can we say that there that is better week than week to what's been what consistent then then Josh then Josh i give you that my thing my thing my thing with Miami is this they have identity but they are finesse and we know that when they come play all time big boys got his team you know what i'm saying and yes jail and rams definitely changes that that secondary in Miami but upfront they're not getting pressure like that uh they're not scary i think the teams that that win championships and are real threats in the playoffs they're scary scary is is by definition a little bit different for every one of these teams the reason the chiefs are scary is because of pammo shit we could be up by 15 points with 10 minutes to go and he go beat us right that's scary you know that if he has the bow with any type of time and time out you're gonna lose um you look at nobody really ain't nobody really scary like that you know in my opinion outside of them in the ANC you look at the NFC the fucking Philadelphia Eagles that whole that whole roster is talented they're scary by the whole the some of its parts you look at the 49er they're scary by the some of their parts you know but you look at some of these other teams it's like nobody else is scary look the markets scare you a little bit with the legs but come week 16 7 at 18 play all time on the legs gonna be as fresh i think the office office is scary like that we seen it put up 70 early this year yeah after that I mean but we know that that scheme can put up points in a hurry and we know they got a lot of speed but I do agree with you though the finesse part they got to go play off so they got to go to Kansas City then we're talking about a different game they got to go Buffalo we talking about a different game they got to go play equipment weather yeah anything like that you're absolutely right but I do think that's scary part of them that you're talking about is that office was it's fast it's no faster office than in the long game as a student Kansas City keep up hell no not this season they're probably going to keep up with theoretically the Ravens because they don't really have that prolific of an office but I mean I know they beat them earlier but yeah and the Ravens number one pass catches off for the season Marques is out so yeah you got MVP like I understand but the MVP number one target is out but he's still an MVP and shit have my home just a former MVP of Travis comes to play whatever like we saw and we'll be fine win win win well we're just seeing what the chief defense can do to Miami's office and they won full 114 in you know one of those touchdowns came off of he the third he'll benefit the guys that I think they traded for him one made a strip and the other one ran about but but that defense that can see has he's going to keep them in games and it's going to make a defense they they are scary Chris Jones to me watching that game just Taylor hurts and the Eagles that's a monster right there and he deserves a lot of credit at the tackle to me he's the number one defense I'm not going to do right now he's number one and that makes his disruptiveness makes all the difference in the world those guys are there just sneeze they get a lot of penalties but they're aggressive and you know sometimes it's going to come with being aggressive so I just get that defense a lot of credit that they can make things happen a lot that offense enough time to make some plays they could have made one or two plays they could have won that game so y'all don't have the Ravens there is a favor some other everything no especially because they lost about the Andrew suit they lost about the Andrew who's Mark Andrew who's he's being Patrick Mahomes lost his old damn offense but we're having a catch up on another strategy here he's getting into that kill any other and I'm saying this any other quarterback in the league in the situation I argue that Patrick Mahomes losing his weapon is brings him down closer to the the rest of the you know why because he's thinking a lot of he's going to make every play he's going to make every he's going to make the plays it's all that makes you not making the characters who's seeing that but it's still getting away from my holes that yeah he can make it that last night he can make it that's a loss he can make it that catch NVS Miss which we know he misses a million over he could have made that against the Ravens or he could have made it any kind of against the Eagles homesteaders he had an opportunity to make that play in the next time he may make it but they're not making the place we're going to how do you say break it down you mean like a loss you're not talking about what he's there right I'm talking about Patrick Mahomes level play is leeks and vials above everybody else we motherfucking can't fuck them all we're not probably wide open to that okay what's those leaves on violence last night though exactly and that's the reason why you have to have context because pammo hopes that like it looked like 18 for 36 but they had 10 jobs wait a minute y'all we're confident the back the mall's going to drive down to the level 100% was not yes shit I was not saying this wasn't even I said it wasn't it wasn't it was it it was not because of him him i'm what you can it's not because of him hopefully for fact my home sake received rice is more caught up on the office ready to make a play that put him out there man let me yeah he the learn on the fire this he's a bet he's never been this time he is that's how outside of Kelsey in particular it may be even at particular little bit he's that guy when he touches the ball he makes me something happen yeah so i don't understand you really got slanted me and he's arrogant i think you know everybody's been longing him as this genius coach and you look great but now you also are devoid of talent what are you going to do where's this where's where's this key match where's this any re-possed man everybody was talking about all these years ago where is that that's right how did they do from the bearish man met nag oh who else is going from the cheese air me every man look different look a little bit different so whose offense was it because damn he got Sam Howard like they're looking like look like somebody yeah people know he ain't yeah so i'm just saying man that now everything for me is all about jazz mmm little more jazz you don't get today and rock tell you i i agree with your premise that this is the year i just don't think you can do it i i and i agree everything he had he had this is the year deservedly so like we're just saying tomorrow jacks is taking half of the season about three years least no years so i can be playing at least so that would be good this is a lot of about that that's yeah so by guys if you play at least so bro yeah i don't let's have a wrap it up by now so we don't see what you can do yeah like the jazz set i guess my home don't make everybody better um i don't think it is only but so much of quarterback he's good it's not like my home just throwing passes where you had to i reach for some of them oh he's literally putting it on if you know that he turned 4-3-25 what's he he hit his hand he hit his hand he couldn't call he can't stand it just fall down bro that's the first down yeah sure that's the last so so it's it's literally not on my home that there's nothing else he can do he's doing everything perfect to you know itself you know we else has been perfect so far who is it my tongue the goddamn now we ain't talking about you know we can't do it any of the stuff we should come right over there uh they did finally oc but yeah you know it that can't yeah so i don't even still yeah Tom the king our offensive coordinators is like um but anyway and obviously anyway we ain't talking about it right now uh the Broncos let's talk about some of that has turned around this season um the other 4-game winnest three got the starting season one and five uh Russell Wilson is he is he is he y'all for come back later yeah we we have a conversation about that yeah give you come back for me sorry yeah i got a so they do it so if you was sorry when you didn't actually i thought it was injury like he was out for another reason no he's probably well when you know once again watching these games that defense in in some of the plays that are made that Tommy plays but he still was jealous himself regardless you know watching him play is still not it's not impressive funny when you watch the hurts play this you don't see he's good he's thinking he's good you see you see uh Russell Wilson winn in folish rate games and you're like oh it ain't make it don't look right no it don't make sense don't do that don't do that don't do that looks like rove jim and but Russell don't look he does it don't look great i will agree with you but they all you know so it's it looks a lot better than it did but it don't look like it did in Seattle i wouldn't agree with you that but he went in one ugly at his prime and see how to know for when it ugly games it's what they did he just felt like a danger when he had the ball to him you know he gonna mess up i don't feel it with the Broncos i mean they make plays like like something makes him awesome catches dair june even came a lot this week that was something but he was fired up we got to get show i paid some pretty too you you have to i had him on my coaches and i looked bad early for having him on my top five but now i think that he's figured out what he needs to tell Russell what's it not to do i think he was trying to tell him what to do and thinking Russell's skill set was comparable to someone like a Drew Brees he could pull off the stuff they should not pay for him to do now i think so i'm paying his figure i just got to tell him yeah you can't do this head to ball out throw that for your pass don't it three yard out i don't want you doing any other stuff that i thought you could do i want you doing anymore and i think that's really beneficial so when you talk about come back clearly you can't yeah he's been able Russell's been able to adapt his that's a good his team is winning i mean these were impressive wins i mean i went over Kansas City went over Buffalo uh i mean you want to throw Minnesota in there you can't green band that you can't i'm not in a so yeah you can still put that team that team that team like well again to me you know so some of the things that you're saying a relationship is a necessarily built overnight right and we're talking about a historically bad situation where you get this quarterback that was dangerous you know and then he comes to the situation you pay them all this money without throwing one ball for this particular organization win the game and you pay a quarterback two-gundered whatever million that you gave Russell Wilson at the time that's the reason why you'll get Russell was right because you don't go for a rajulak in that situation all that being said he does look better um and i agree with Shelton where i think what it is is age is starting to catch up with him right because he he definitely was a lot more spry more versatile uh able to get out of certain situations and then make that play for a long time to me Russell Wilson had the prettiest deep ball in the league he did he threw it up a go way up there and drop right in the bread basket he it's not like that no more right and he's not using his he as effectively as he once did it to me it just looks a little bit more like age because it wasn't like Russell was Kyle Murray or Lamar Jackson it was like oh he a burger and then when you slow down you can still be wiggle he was there he was buried you know say past that threshold and now he just looks older right um and i think that with athletes that age and are not um elite elite level athletes they have to figure out okay what's old man game and i think with Sean Payton it's like this this is what old man game looks for you and i got you trust me and we're going to get you to this point and i think that that's what we're starting to see um but that's not the void of the wide receivers because Jerry Judy has been a church is off of here all year and for him to go back and forth with Steve Smith like that to have feeling a type of way you got to look yourself in the mirror bro because he's with everything he's back was fast your first round pick but i don't think it was dead i think it was the fact that Steve Smith was coming to talk to him like if you say that about me keep that same energy basically what he's saying don't come up shaking my hand bro like it ain't but you know what though looks like everybody on this stage is a little bit older now right when we was all Jerry Judy not though that's not understanding but at the same time you know one of his vegetables it should have hollered at him and you know what i'm saying like like at the end of the day Steve Smith isn't saying these things to tear you down he's putting a mirror in your face and being like hey bro i can't help you right i don't think i'm standing on a different side of you than that because i think looking at generation it's it's more on Steve Smith to have his critique more professional than it is for Jerry Judy to respond as a professional not to be a white piece said that of course somewhere who's been an elite athlete their whole life and usually people appraising them and maybe he was struggling who knows what's going on with it you hear that like you're going to be like like you're talking about and then i see you and you walk in the face and then how's it going to be out of my face bro if i'm a kid now you're right if i'm Steve Smith and i'm older and of course you're going to listen you know you know man had a bad day whatever but i can see Jerry Judy reacting the way i wouldn't put much blame on him you know i would think that in most cases you're saying i mean you could call me and now you call me telling me what you could do to help me if my game there is different if your job do it in a way where you're not being disrespectful Smith was a little discer and then he became like i said he didn't know what he was trying to do but my thing is this and i understand that he's younger but if anybody watched the Smith we know what that's not the type of analyst that's yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i probably the right pre-life was like you like really got me right i do like you do everybody else you like kids all right i'm just doing this one too you know mccin my homie and the other statesman couldn't talk to statesman could talk to statesman like that yeah they couldn't talk about him even though he was a dog that was something he had bad game and if they say something about him he'd have taken it personally so he'd have been he did the same thing because that's what he and i would have been he dropped the mic on his his good tv don't like it but you know i see jerry dewy's point but at the end of the day when when you are such a hydrophic and they went and got a franchise quarterback and you know now it's like okay now you have an opportunity to show what you got and you got to show what you got and on the field it's not there it's not there and then the other one too courtless starting to show a little bit more now but up until this point everybody on that office inside the crew shop they look very questionable in the last two three weeks they look a lot better but they're still nowhere near the potential that they should be at like courtless sudden should be a top 10 top 15 YRC in the league with Russell Wilson jerry Judy should have his first 1,000 yards season with Russell Wilson this year and he's nowhere near that he's not going to get a thousand right but how much of that is our Russell you know what all of it last season some of it this season but it's also now that they're catching a strike it's on jerry to step up to Jerry got to step up he got got to make plays now that's what they pay you to do um mico del said somebody all on champagne in the country i had him about a time i don't know he's still he's still over ready he's still trash i still say he's a good color so he doesn't get caught catches him lucky break it takes time it takes time else they want to play us to look at that time to get him out of there uh before we go to the next thing here i don't uh tweets over doors i don't want to hear no excuse about the cheese receivers y'all do they retread all season you still pick them away and give the Eagles credit and win in division that has that bro that has to say a lot of our brand is able to brand a stateless garbage chut me go there with the member to each garbage out of here the way he responded to the reporter oh man oh man oh see so uh we also have a video uh we we we're gonna hear from Nick um so we're gonna go and get that prepped up and uh ready all right uh so what the brother got to say he's making that he's making an appearance whoa what we got here from Nick what's going on y'all shaboy nikidusa well i'm feeling like nikidusa because this is a another edition of working title who deserves a disrespect shout out to that in sports um this week i would probably lean towards normally i lean towards the mike time in situation as far as in pittsburgh then losing to um a nigga with three last names who's a backup qb to to mr nasty man but that's that's for another that's for another week that's for another week but right now after coming off this monday night football game the number one thing that i noticed and something that i called early was patty ain't got nobody to throw to you know what i'm saying in this week and who deserves a disrespect it's the gm and then head coach of the Kansas c-cheese because why the hill are they wasting i'm telling how this right now they waste them patty's time they underpaying him Travis Kelsey well shit and chris jones that's those only three things that they underpaying all three all three of them literally are the reason why they went super boats the last two but only two and they gave him a butcher abeka and kennel stick make a throw to that that game we saw monday night is the reason why the chiefs would not win this will go this year they can't they don't have the talent and they're wasting patty's youth they wasted him and we see it we're literally watching it i just want y'all know i was first to call it that's a deserved disrespect there you have it um yeah yeah he he he he called it you don't think he goes both ways to a certain degree i mean he's right they don't have weapons the weapons call some game but yes somehow some way this is something to agree i was about to say wasting his youth is a crazy term being that they want a super ball that's it and they're the favorites to win it again is she are they still i don't know if they're the favorites of what i can take it yeah don't just i would say that like i said we for the fact that we talked about now even if not the eagles to me i still would put some of the other teams ahead of them and it once again it's just because of his weapons but he's right in a sense like damn they still are they are how did i how is he right and how did they do they leave native is and they won the super ball last year and then the favorites didn't win it this year along with well it's a tie but along with the eagles and the forty-niners oh well yeah yeah we'll talk about it looks like that's the best um that was about a shot yeah yeah did you create a rapsim just for this time then they ain't bro they're still at the top it we was all kind of uh all right we're gonna go to a next god dang that's his new nickname which isn't anyone because i want to waste the man work you know everything all the different so they make it make it show like this and we're gonna go to do it um until so like this needs to be talked about anyway so um the Steelers uh took an ugly loss to the Cleveland Browns Road as we mentioned earlier they got rid of Matt Canada uh with the emcee now being more wide open due to injury should the Steelers we looked at as a playoff team and i'm gonna answer right out the day i still say no uh as i said on this program before they've been overachieving in the management win games that they should not have won i i did not have them as a playoff team uh i don't recall coming into this season so uh there's some unknowns for me uh you know can you pick it yeah he has great comeback wins he's fighting what happened last year week but you know we don't know what he is you know he looks mediocre he's probably the reason why they he has to make all these damn come back because he's so bad yeah so for me no but what i will say is there is absolutely no way in hell they should have lost again i don't give a damn it is on the road i don't give a damn it is against the top defense in one of the top defense in the NFL this is a rookie right? he is he is a rookie late round pick and probably throw this in the last game he shit yeah this is an absolute horrible loss it is to lose to a guy like that because and then the blame on offense you can't manufacture offense that defense that defense should have been eating this man alive some kind of way so that defense y'all deserve some blame for this um because you already know the offense is but it's a rookie out there bro you gotta you gotta confuse the shit out of him and to be honest and to be fair because you know i'm very realistic tom it is a defensive guy that's his job so now bro to me this loss wasn't on matt canada this loss is more like tomlin because if you got a rookie out there that that has an initial dtr then yeah he should have been out of there bro this should be this game shouldn't even be close well the other reason i don't know he's not and i'm not sure none of them because they said one game i grew up to wholeheartedly there is there was no passing test downs in this game um that's crazy none in the end of the year 22 times one turns down east side both were interested in it just wasn't much offensive all the defense held if i hold you to 13 points we should win the game and that's pretty much in any team so for that i do give the defense pass because at some point they got to rely on this office to put the ball in the zone and you got enough weapons on office to be able to do that it's we look at picket we got look at picket you know we blame matt canada and now that he's gone you know who's next it's picket so until then you know they got picket for two more seasons bro and um and yeah i mean i i understand they held the browns the 13th and points but the browns don't have to have any that way they probably should have had three points that she even got them school right you know and more importantly you know it's the fourth quarter and this may go on a drive to win a business no fuck on that bro like at that point you really should have been dialed into what he was doing and to be able to lock him down so so yeah now hypnotized he'll look in they've been out there all day okay they've been playing football all day valid because office can get shit going right yeah yeah i'd be suffering and that defense is is that you know his versus defense is really really a good defense but it's tough we all know it's NFL and it's really really really tough to maintain throughout now you would hope that they would have taken up on that last drive but i think it's the they did the right job excuse me the right thing in getting rid of that kind of and i think pickets can be safe i think next season or whoever they replace kind of the way pick it as enough of a collection we'll talk about his comeback wins if he's if he gets a good offensive mind around him i still think that his career can be saying he could look better negative office was too stagnant it was stale everybody knew i was coming in never looked innovative and the reason that he was so good in the fourth quarter because they got to improvise a lot more like it was off script we're not going on his bullshit man kind of the stuff let's go try to win the game he excelled at that so i think he put him in front of a good um office coordinator they do better i do think they'll go to play off this year if the playoffs was about today they would be playing the Dolphins in the first row so i'd be looking for a quarterback in the after this year or shit they should be looking for one thing that's not coming draft because here's the thing right when i look at can you pick it what what's special about it like nothing jumps off the screen saying oh this is this is nice this is salvageable like he's not elite or even really good at running uh his arm talent is very mediocre at best it's not like he has a big stature in the pocket you know like what is that you see clutch yes but it was i see i'm winning games this is in the fourth quarter i see but you know what though i also see somebody getting out gained i see somebody's fault though i'm not putting all of the blame on him but great quarterbacks overcome battle seats you know what i'm saying and i'm not saying he's a great quarterback i don't know about that shit i don't know about that i think a good a great oce make can make the quarterback better 100 percent right but but the opposite if you true who give me an example um i have never seen a bad oce like i put you like this right it didn't matter who the oce was tambradi was but he looked better and they were more successful when it was with dang's yeah but they still won championships without they think they said that when he left they they weren't winning they weren't winning they won't came back they still i went he understand but he went to the bucks of one of championship you're right okay right i'll give you that but that's the greatest quarterback else okay um um you should have a home would be at me yeah i'm going to score that i'm saying i gotta be extreme case where the quarterback is going to be able to also it is an issue case and i do agree where oce can elevate somebody right like we saw what what might then you was doing with to uh but the thing is is to uh has had like like this season when i asked the same question and we we put the spotlight on to it it's like okay well what makes it special quick release and he's accurate right everything else is very questionable like he's not that mobile you're gonna get ran down by the alignment bro you know i'll run the alignment he doesn't have the biggest arm in the world what can you pick it yeah what are you gonna win the Super Bowl no so that's why you shouldn't take another year to invest in somebody that is mediocre at best see now and here's the thing the reason why two was in a slightly different situation because they went and drafted jailor while they went and got tari killing paid them so now they have weapons so they're elevating the talent around the mediocre quarterback and now the mediocre quarterback looks like he's good if not on the precipice of the next level but can you pick it and the Steelers are far in my opinion from that uh George Pickett's is nice um Deontay Johnson nice he's like he's even up and down and that's not all him he's nice he's nice running game warren it's nice warren and warren and i say no i say what warren is nice warren is really good i tell you that you got the two sort of like how everybody in the office was confused not just can you shake it like everybody and it just happened like we're playing on script i do think can you pick it i'm not saying that he's a world leader anything like that but i would put him in the same class as but he hasn't had a success yet but that's a tool like he's average is average is i feel like that he still has the opportunity and if he doesn't do it with a good OC then i would be on your side but i still think he has the opportunity to learn and play off his skills set to be average or even good in his league i don't think he's gonna change shit i don't think firing Matt Canada and then uh hiring these two coaches uh Sullivan and somebody else and then split their duties between the two is gonna do anything he's gonna change anything i really don't i want to see it can they play the bingles next with no Joe Burrow after that they play the card and then they play the coach and they play the bingles again so they got a shot by a straight swing i'm not trusting them any of those games i get i get i just i just no i don't yeah don't i got first of all i gotta see what this officer looked like without that Canada are you gonna really be pushing around on the field with nazi harris steel can't fucking run right you know uh can't george pick you got an elite you got two receivers george pickers is is looks like it's pretty good you know i take john scan get open when he's healthy so what do you have problems there's a fairly good time to get back yeah so you got things on what are they going to do differently i need to see on the field i need to see the product i think we'll see they just go they're gonna have a better scheme like they have to it can't go worse than that but the only thing that's worse officer lee i'm afraid of is you know you got a change on the fly you got this you know it's tough to do but there's no where the best coach in the league comes in it's what i'm here for to make this shit happen but who but he ain't going to be in the office of court that you were talking about the adjustment on the fly yeah i was talking about him being a leader of men he's going to make sure that this adjustment period goes smoothly that's his job that's what he doing to see yo and he's the best at in the league so we're talking about making a man sees and change i would never have any other coach after him to do it it's just it's just tough still for those men to make that adjustment okay you got to get out there if we talk about the scheme oh we talking about we're talking about implementing a whole new playbook we're just talking about the change of the process changing some schemes i don't think they're gonna throw a whole playbook out they're gonna have someone who's familiar with the terminology about the quarterback's coach or something like i don't move up i just think the scheme that Matt counted the rain and how his office was looking on the field it was him it wasn't as we just sitting here and said it had all the tools now it's gonna be someone that comes in we think about a scheme and my time is gonna make sure they're thinking of just to it so how much was it was on can he pick it not be in the guy to do it because a lot of times coordinate his hands a tiny neighbor i don't believe in how can i expect him to how can i how can i give him more weapons and more things to work with tools when he's not the guy let me let me add let me add this and i just saw this from cam haver um and maybe we can read between the lines maybe there's something here maybe something is it but he said uh only time will tell i think we look at the situation it comes down to execution first any person who thinks just firing an old c and you're automatically gonna get ten times better you're starting to stay in an hour game it goes down it comes down to execution at a high level it comes down to everybody being in one accord and so we'll see this we'll we'll approve a lot more weeks after that we'll keep pushing forward sounds like can you pick not a leader of men that's it and that's stuff when you're on teammates that to me that says i don't know we got to see that ain't saying i got the big confidence in my back camera camera camera and that's one of the leaders on that spot you know what that sound like when the 49ers were trying to believe in trade rights and when Brock pretty came around him and i know he did the guy the other guy i don't know and that's when i read between the lines with what can't hey what's up right there can't in my opinion it's him saying that the guy that is supposed that we're supposed to believe in i don't know if he can execute at the high level that we mean that position execute at correct yeah so okay well can you pick it you sound just like nigga mister business but the you know no yeah i remember that that was crazy bro mitch went to to play he takes fairs to the playoffs but at the end of the day i'm asking you the same way i asked well i'm not saying i don't think mister tubis is good though but you do you think the best of playoffs twice look at some just if you went to the playoffs i don't know if you took it yeah exactly i agree with you want a bus before we jump into this basketball question i want to the nb s toss this out from you guys the detroit line spiked shelter that was hella we're gonna be winning wasn't it was not about you that it was okay yeah y'all still uh on the fence about just the feels not i'm not lying that's on the fence though i am because they lost that the bad we we talk about teams winning and losing games the bears lost it so so look this will be this is the the definition of what a bad team and what a good team looks like bad teams lose games like this this is why they have a losing record this is a game you're supposed to win against a division open it and you lost the game good teams take away games they stay in it they believe they keep crawling they keep going and at the end of the day they win the game so to me this is a teller a good team and a bad team the lines are good team are they world beaters are they the nfc favorite no but they're definitely gonna make the playoffs and they're definitely gonna scare somebody in that first round beyond that you said scare i think like you said we're i'm scared yeah it's like the match up but it's just like the giants of last year you know what i'm saying they overachieve and i don't think the lines are overachieving they just finally starting to build on the foundation that that uh the kneecaps what do you say you don't buy he's he's fighting the captain he's fighting the team he's fighting the team he's dealing with the team i believe in the lines when they play us in in not two weeks they can beat the caliber that's the first real test i'll say it i'll say it i'll come back in and say i'm gonna be kind of tough it's the biggest game right yeah that's all that always does and jory love is up and down though he has before we get into the basketball like jory love like that's according to back give me another year with him because he sure what the hell is doing love though the kids he's so oh yeah he's so fly he's so slow he's so slow i'm with you bro what you would you rather have king and the same hell no hell no same you said category you could know you better no jory love shh jory love has a bigger arm he's a bigger player um he slashed the more and it more consistent it can't speak he had a really good game sundae i'm giving that he's flash consistently bad no he's he's having always done a pretty good game the quarterback there was on a division leading team just a week ago and a quarter back i had two wins and you're telling me oh i've seen him with flashes and then he ain't been good bro like he's had flashes you that's the right terminology that's the best you can't just come off a segment and say can you pick it don't show y'all anything and this thing was leading the division so my love is and nothing to pass well first of all you you see why is game Sunday first of all you said first time you showed up for all you then if you did win the game that's why you said that the Steelers have the best they coach yes right so so that's a check mark for the Steelers okay uh would you say the Steelers have a better defense Steelers are better team and if every day you're about to ask me the Steelers are better yes even including all right so it's can't be no place to kill no he may not be much better but he's better I'll only take Jordan because he's black if I had to choose black if I had to choose I would go that way but speaking of that I want to ask y'all this because I was thinking about this like I want to see don't want to win here okay um because you know reload it right you're a man on reload it yeah he ain't or the name yet no I'm not ready to give it back to him yeah we know we got more bullets than to take yeah it's reload it so we're gonna see if you can fire but I was thinking about this I was thinking about Brodley bro I think Brodley is the white jailer hurts that's a good analogy you know you know you know you know you know that's what I'm going to see I see the vision yeah man I thought about it I'm like yeah that's right yeah I think it's my right bro like that I think he's he's the equivalent of the white white jailer hurts he got everything around he can be yeah the team loves it that's what that's what it is jumping like but wait oh you know it's character yeah that's character that was character below average that's all show the hair that you know but yeah team loved team loved him team loved I see this I see the vision I think that's right what you said so he's winning they won't beat the hell out of the guy boys can you get the hell out of the child yeah yeah man he's good he's good he's good uh NBA man um let me just go through uh Nick one of the know who looks my watch the clippers of the Warriors I don't know that's interesting um but what I will say is that um I want to show given the Warriors yeah oh you know I'm glad we actually mentioned Warriors because jumping and I want to give them some more time but man I don't ever but they were supposed to be like years ahead they were they were all right okay they used to come on your move you lost you peed so bro you you you you that was more that's more on the Warriors miss handling that situation than it was what we were saying because they had it they had it sounded like I said the situation was made it should have been well how really really wise when was to me I I loved it been a fly in the wall in the room to see what whose decision it was to get rid of wise man wise man Detroit yeah I'm actually I don't know he's decent he's he's another big body and that's what they're missing they have no size part they have none so Dre Mons getting a little older a lot older a lot older and I don't know he is limited you need as much size and you need versatility depth and versatility as you get and you had these older guys guiding him along he had a whole year to sit and rest shirt put him out there and find another play and then it would have been better movie is better than what he's not he's better than where he came didn't he didn't need the assets they got back for wise man don't want to get to the farks not necessarily they didn't not necessarily take it back for wise gp is somebody else and he was pretty violent to play off but but but here here's the thing we've never in the history of basketball just seen what is it a dynasty a dynasty right in the midst of their dynasty have a secondary core that they're trying to bring on that's what i was saying yeah because we never seen that didn't work and it didn't work it wasn't working in either partly the reason why dynasties have a run is because we know that it's veteran players that win championships most championship teams don't have more than two or three young players and if they have to three up they're not getting more they're not getting minutes they're not getting big minutes they're only giving maybe one young guy minutes like that so for them to go through that transition and try to make that work it just did it but i also agree with Shelton where wise men was the one you know if you want to give it a comminga i would have felt the type of way but it is what it is want to give it a moody i feel the type of way it is what it is but wise men is the one that has things you cannot teach you can go get another six seven six eight wing that's athletic and try to bring them along right you can do that you can even to a degree get another Jordan pool it's not like they drop the Jordan pool in the lottery they drop the Jordan pool right before the second round you know what i'm saying so so those other guys are more expendable it's it's it's taking those calculated risks you know what it's never been done we have an opportunity they fit our mold they fit the mold of the guys that are ahead of them they can teach them we can grow so that way when clay looks washed like he does now he's had his first 20 point game of the whole season you know what i'm saying he looks bad um now with clay moves on and we don't recycle it now we got the next guy to step in you know what i'm saying and here's the thing right like i think Jordan pool could have been that guy Jordan not to find out the second unit he did Jordan pool's ego in his mouth wrote checks he can't cash but if he would have been humble right now would have been he would have became the the bloodies star in the lead bro he averaged 18 points as a third or fourth option in gold estate and he's averaging less as a number one option right now any of the lowest uh plus minus percent in the lead right now he's yes done pool is trash trash he so so it shows you what Jordan the organization what the organization does for certain players because of the scheme and because they've curried so stuff curried let's not get that twisted so i've curried 35 years old looking like it's still 28 so it is what it is do the warriors look washed to degree yeah because Dremon definitely looks older still the hardest so you know you're gonna take his cheap shots and shit he's oh man that's what that's his old man game kalay Thompson is done you know some of you would have been said on his podcast i want 100 percent agree with what he said what has kalay Thompson done to get better year after year he can't shoot he can't shoot he can't create everything it was was shooting and going off those grades and he was a great shooter he was a 3D defender he was ultimate 3D guy no 100 percent but he don't have no post game he has size for a guard for a perimeter player he don't have a whole game he can't dominate a small guy if you put him on him he can't do that he can't he can't he can't score off the dribble and i'm not say becomes left curry or become bored i'm not saying that but it's like he's never added levels to his game i agree with that at this point his career you would like to see something like that like being in the post at this point and like six eight yes it's not his say i think stuff currier on his way to the car wash bro oh the car ownership now i was that don't know when i was playing well but i don't know i was like i don't know what to do i don't know i think i don't know i think you know when he got the keys bro you know over the app he got he got he got he we wanted the car bro he just ain't pulled out the drop car won't want to keep he good okay shut the chef is still cooking in the kitchen the chef is you know who's looking great playing great when up these numbers i don't see people talking about kd like that bro kd's like really why because because nobody respects kd no more look at all these scenes you have been at crazy scenes that you'd have been traded to you forced your way out of whatever reason and then now you got bradley biel and devon book not bradley but they haven't been playing and he's just like that carrying that change no respect it but when it's championship at this point at this point at kd's career is when the championship without staff he's right that's it bro the repist he's no matter what the fact though let's look at look first of all his guys have been hurt bradley bielerad david book just finally you can't be and shit and uh look at the brad in the 40 years old look at all uh year 21 look at the numbers kd kd kd kd kd kd kd kd kd kd he's not a year 21 number two again nobody respects kd but nobody respects kd because we see you do this in the regular season when it comes to play oops don't choke free don't talk about the rise regular season who just choke the free pro there may be a little 20 years in the game they average in them they're 30 can't we never see nobody after your 20 average 20 this year is been in a 31 seven and five but we knew he had oh man gay five six years ago on daddy's first i was selling y'all niggas he got oh man gay i'm not this doesn't hurt me kd should go out still average in 2025 so you think about time he gets it whatever LeBron's ages he ain't gonna be putting up 30 yeah dude in them they're seven feet with a jumper up here what do you mean well he don't look Ken the reason why i really love starting players in kd's one of these guys is that kd can score from anywhere on the court he can shoot the 40 the 40 footer if he wanted to you know shoot as many as name instead but if he wanted to he could do that he has pull up game off the dribble he can move without the ball he has low post game he has mid post game he has face up game he has back to the basket game he's seven for he got dirt fairway so so yes he's gonna he's always been extremely efficient you know the one thing that never leaves you as a basketball player you 50 years old you shoot that ball del curry right now right now can shoot 40 percent from three guarantee del curry so kd is still going to have his 20 plus he's gonna be in the mid-20s year 22 whatever however you want to play right at this point in his career kid it's no longer about the affluence not about the every piece now how did you do a winner championship without steps so here's kd been a delete 15 came in in 2007 so what is that oh 714 16 years i didn't want to show the man some love bro because he deserves it nobody's really giving him props like that but what he's looking for but when the championship yeah i think i i think a lot of the game goes to the fact that the team has not been playing the greatest win makers and then that goes to show like right now they'll be in seven place the Lakers are eight and six the Lakers gonna get the pub anyway and the brothers gonna get it because of Lakers because of how long he's been lead but kd is as we've seen this movie before with him and it's kind of like i think that people just kind of like whatever especially with the team not winning i put you like this kid we've never seen somebody a year 21 do what LeBron's doing we've seen kd do what he's doing we think i do do that are we gonna see what's that let me get traded for the books i hope so oh so because this is damn their talent wasted we're talking about a 25 26 point a game scorer um and you know the bull here's the thing the bulls wasn't last season was the season before when they put all that together with Caruso and stuff was it last season before so when they first put all that together i really liked it they got off the gate strong lonzo got hurt it just with the shit because they literally needed all of those pieces they needed lonzo to orchestrate it and the defense that lonzo brings to that team once they lost that they lost their identity um and they lost everybody's role change and i've always said zachlavin is a weapon you deploy but it's not necessarily a cornerstone he's like you don't necessarily build upon it he's a guy that you add to like oh we need more fire car like you got luka he's like kyereen you put zachlavin there's a damn near the same thing he needs to go to the Lakers obviously he's from LA the Lakers are devoid of shooting i don't understand what who's the guy they got from the Miami heat in the off season gave it's a where the hell is hurt now but still it didn't hurt none of them none of these shows it none of these guys have been able to step up even Austin Rees or Toriel Prince none of them none of them and a d don't even give me started on a d but none of these guys have been able to really play to their level now i don't know if you trade exactly you know if it happens to him too i don't know but here's the thing that we do know his history said that he's a 20 plus point score everywhere he's gone that shit will not work in other bro i know i want to win the mix you go to the mix car bitch well when you go to the worst thing what huh don't say kengan i i can go to state is so thin that they're not need like what are they gonna give up because if i was like i want to play i'm not paying them because kids he's a free agent to be i'm paying that man so i'm gonna give him my best player not getting any return and then you're like an expiry contract yeah that's what i said that would be the value i get an expiry contract but you're not a free agent destination what you got to sell somebody on because they give it exact you got to give it to the market i'm gonna stay so what else do you have on that team who's the fidgety who's the fidgety i'm out too so yeah i don't know now here's the thing um you know the bull's are in a situation where you're gonna take back contracts back you know what i'm saying like bruso too yeah they're trying to blow it up they're trying to blow it up lonzo ball's injury derailed what the bulls could have been i'm not saying a championship contender but they would have definitely been a playoff team and you know challenged the likes of the boston's not this boston but boston's what years ago i knew you know what i'm saying uh the fillies like all of those teams they want to challenge those teams but now it's it's my fault i got to be a question what's up let's go ahead and say he is struggling man he's running he's been injured in a glee he's hurt he's coming back from injury they wanted him to work his way back in the shape and get back on the score but he is got it right now yeah yeah he is but in school you just you just yeah he's wrong he's wrong i'm wrong yeah i seen middle with then ball and chip maball in maybe of course uh brandon miller brandon miller not even starting running with him yeah that's a check check yeah that was a game bro man because he's like the re-bro people say he the second coming can he he he's gonna be the next great white hike yeah i was saying to marry me i think he is the next great white hike but here you know i said do from duke conner uh what's up flag yeah cooper flag yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i see that i'm realized i see that game the thing i do like about check is this right and i'm projecting down the road but obviously wemby is going to play french national basketball check is going to be on that team because we ain't got nobody to compete with that and chet is the closest thing he really is chet is the closest thing and to me wemby is better the number if you if you literally look at it side by side numbers are very similar but you watch their game wemby is way more um aggressive didn't win me strobe against chat though yeah yeah shut that up very close i mean it's just one of the people who is right here yeah yeah if we're talking about height and skill bro chet is going to be america's version of wemby yeah okay uh i just want to get russel west bro because everybody jump on rus a lot of everybody get a chance shout out to him for going to talk about my bro i want to come off the bench you know to make this thing work man people just call himself is just at another you know i kind of i'm low you know i'm low people in the clip of bro i will i will mind seeing ruskey the ring and i heard you say that before they've been winnancy went to the bench too they want to you know too many guys yeah look get what a renaissance will talk about this come on four guys in their career they have average 30 bro like how do you how do you massage that how do they all handle the ball and they all handle the ball they're all best with the ball in their hands you got four now and he got one that is definitely the client but says he's the system with that with with rus going to tylun say let me come off the bench what that tells me is that james harden is delusional james harden is delusional because at this point in their career russel west brook is more valuable to that sardine lineup then james harden is because russel west brook is a leader and he's the ultimate team player because you you listen to you know former teammates especially like bradley vial this is the bradley vial glory nobody has nothing bad to say outside of the Lakers but you look at what russel west brook is done going to tylun with that tells me is that team is not going to win because james harden is delusional and he's going to be out of the league if i was on that team and i was i wanted to come off the bench give me the second unit where i can go ahead be me and run free and do what i want to do see them get my points but still gonna be in the game in the fourth but i don't have to share minutes in in risk losing out on my field of the game because i'm not touching the ball in the first quarter you know that message you have for us again like y'all having and y'all go here and battle over the ball i'm gonna be the second unit and i'm gonna get my shot so but to me i like how russel west brook looked with pj and kawaii though you know and that's what i'm saying that james harden is delusional because realistically from a basketball perspective in my opinion james harden should be the one who should be the one with the second unit with all the sayings with the ball in the hand hey you stand there you stand there you stand there and i'm gonna go to work i agree russel is not that player no more russel once upon a time okay see rus i just saw a clip of compilation that's why i put together so this used to be the most unguarded-mid-range jumper again when we used to have a little button hop and pull up and everybody grilled he don't know more i don't know what happened that russel west brook different rus this rus is more of a distributor push the pace uh leader on the court because kawaii and pj can kind of get lost at times and rus kind of orchestrates everything and time lose set it we finally got our leader they better have kawaii and pj those guys are lead by example both of those guys quiet russel hey bro come on pick it up james harden is not that's james should be coming off the bench yeah so i do want to show him some love so i'm gonna go in uh get ready to hand this over to spike for our weekly picks um but while he's pulling that up i just want to say man you know uh we need to get it in and filly talk so we are going to talk about a process filly who the sitzis don't we want to talk about a process yes somebody said they need to trust the process that was dia every i said good bro they got blown out by saaria's watch the state team this team just can't win a game three and oh god black folks out here looking crazy they spent all of it in the what do you say oh but uh he said if you come to Colorado to get a bag go somewhere else because we're taking players we ain't making no money bag yoes you got to come here want to play football and you got to come here want to get your degree and want to go to Colorado but if you come here to make money and get rich go somewhere else wasn't that his son doing this all every day what when they doing all that when they went down what did you say we're bringing loyevica time i think that that she gets stolen because they got stolen after they went uh one after they went uh one after they went one day first three games i ain't gonna lie i was mad about that i think the problem was uh it was kind of fit man that's maybe what it was but how do you not say that now see dia i got a problem because these players were going because of that yeah they were going because they could get money and they get publicity but here's the thing they only like you win it that's it then so everything going to go there and you lose the games like this bruh i see i said i've said on the sidelines since week three i've said it is off the way all the said he is out of here dia my thing is you know i got my thing is you know i got my issue with dion this wasn't the year they're ready to be they really should have only added one more win they came back in one two games she's looking like he's damn mediocre you know he quit on the team last last year he just quit he ran out ran out on the floor blaming but he's like keeping it dust yeah but not a man like and then now you gotta get guys like you got this quarterback but now players of life and i don't even know he gonna be there they asked they saying this about dion and when dion was asked about it he didn't even give a direct answer which is so so dion so that recruiting process is gonna look bad so everything everything people been saying about dion bruh they all hit man they look right in the black twitter ain't been the same bruh all these people are it's true use excuses all you don't even know what colorado played on bro bro people was up three o'clock in the morning watching the game is what bro bro bro i don't want to watch the one i was like i was like there was i was like i'll come last night i'll stay in the show today like i'll come back that way that way that game when they when they when that first one when they when who was it came back in the game with uh Stanford that was last one just like right away and i did i was just like it's bad i was watching that at this belief i was like what's going on what happened but dion hey this last thing i was saying i was dion knew what was up because he started complaining about those Friday games early even though they had been winning a little game he was like man this should be he's crazy y'all got to playing on Friday night he was like what is this i was what's going on you know because he knew it's team want to be up hard and then shit and i can't they guys don't care about football bro they don't they don't give a damn about football and that's all because of dion dion is still that culture they don't so so yeah man that's that dion's process so we'll see you'll be fine i just want to see how i look to you two million four something right but he'd be fine with it three year process right you bro if it's not where we at next year i don't know if it's right where we at next year we're going to be going to be texting him calling him right now to me i look do y'all really think he's going to jump schools like that oh i do why wouldn't he why wouldn't he dion has no faith in anything it's up dion he has no ties the only reason i think he would is because he don't like the cold at all he really don't like the cold he can't stand that he faking it because he had the job you got to fake it till you make it and at this point he want to get it far away from cholera as possible if he can he want to bring it back closer to this side east coast and from one whether he's being challenged or but he he's trying to stay out don't you get cold back to that conversation like that cold yeah his biggest issue are his voice because he can't leave and take them with him because they have to sit out of here if i read that correctly i thought you could play now not the they've already transferred already what you can do what you can do about about so he has to stay there another year if he's gonna fail so that's the reason why i don't think he's gonna be personally right unless you're but you have that bro anything fair game once should do is in a fail yeah but the thing is is i don't think he's leaving his boys i definitely think he wants to see them through and then i think next year is gonna be a better year because even if some people don't yeah because he doesn't yeah you don't know how to yeah he has to because he hears the thing Ken um i'm not saying that they're gonna be like national champions next year i'm not saying that but they should win their division um they should win their conversation they should be close to play off to reason being is let's be honest from the weaponry standpoint they're fine they're soft out fine they are they need a whole line they need a lot i'm not saying i didn't say elite also definitely they said they got tough they got tough they're good enough on the front to make sure happen bro oh i've never seen a quarterback take the amount of hits that he's not gonna be on there but i'm sure he's already adjusting that and that part is already in the way yes nothing else changes i gotta be all like even if they learn don't change that one line has to change yeah my biggest fear is those guys get the angel east curse boy you get the angel east curse is over with and they seem to seem like they had it do can you go pro early in wba yeah she says look yes she should well what a thing well she make it right in well she makes me make money as she makes money as she can sorry about that but we're talking about angel east y'all didn't read the stories a lot of crazy crazy stuff going on some in-fighting on the team moms are fighting yeah the grey stripes she's got no two points she's in definitely suspended that's plummet mhm let's be on social media chance and it's not it's actually already rich in the way they were expecting like yes this is gonna happen and i like already this is gonna continue to happen and i just angel east i wouldn't want to jump or paddle her she's a kid i think that with the nca we'll have to take a look at it's yeah this is gonna happen people are gonna get famous they're gonna start going to school they're not gonna care if they play like i got my check already so it's cool the last thing and she post up all summer she has not done one bit one criminal basketball yeah and there's no need it's the same thing that dion talked about a couple weeks ago when he was like look we have all of these dudes basically make it nfl money but our staff is literally less than half of nfl staff but you want me to control these 17 18-19 year olds i do hundreds of thousands of dollars i do a million i do that's not easy that's your job that's not easy it's not easy but it's not easy because i don't have a staff they need the staff you need a staff to handle that because it's one thing to talk to 25-20 years that's a multi-millionaire we're talking 1920! anchory says 1.7 GPA yes my son can do that right now no she don't that's just people that leave people who never mouth what they say to you yeah you're right and the thing about the reason why she suspended for her team so her mom i mean jay's mom i mean it's the whole student out there is what it was yeah they don't need to be as mean that if she loves you and happens you'll have to happen but it's because in terms of giving you a lot of time correct because she's probably because she probably can do the math but you play the whole first and nothing though and that's true yeah she basketball you play first and now the christmas is over with if you could they're gonna check raise at christmas time they go check raise at that point if you ain't made it you're not playing sex semester i went to a hbc you so that's always some players that happens and so what have they said that she what would be the issue of why she's not playing there i don't know what it could be i know that first game they struggle horribly she's not engine right no i mean she took what what happened the reason why they pulled her out of that one game is she saw the three and it was just an ill time shot just just doing some stuff she's doing some stuff she's white ladies she said it down cose and then she put it back in there and then she put it back in there and anything could happen behind the scenes you're right there and at that point anything could have been going on and so that's probably what it was but the parents got into it like i said that's what it got missing the parents got into it and they start having words online which should never went that far and next thing you know she's not playing uh this is this is this is partly black twitter for all these black people having the whole thing with that we can't love it's almost damn it like dion again you know they're up rolling they did they didn't know now we can't even defend her you know because you don't know how to handle success mmm jesus christ man from success they got the DJ counterflute mmm what we got right all right but we got the picks of the week as of last week in you're still in the league um thanks for the 26 and 19 Nick these numbers may be doctor hey doctor Nick jumped up the second place so he hasn't been here i don't know what happened well Nick had good Nick still keeps the tallies here so i feel like he probably can cheat better since he's not here in the festival coming face us so per these numbers Nick is number two with 23 and 22 um Sheldon you actually showed us number two with 24 and 21 then Nick at 23 and 22 and b-4 you're 21 and 20 because they still miss a four-year picks and i'm 24 and i was on the heel on a couple of these picks by myself had a terrible week last week I was on the heel of a couple of games by myself and one game we all missed it the charges the charges the charges the charges bring back game all over the game you switched it you did switch it i think we're not big green but i said no i'm saying you switched it because you said we all pick charges i'm back and watch it for that to see like cuz i sometimes i forget we picked you but you said you know i'm rebay right now i'm rebay right it's daily sport of all four yeah you know he's done he's done i said i think i asked for him what's up bro with people to see up what they said expect right but i'm sorry got to be one week man oh my god that's right right there man excuse you that bro for doing this thing alright man week 11 picks excuse me with 12 picks first we have Denver versus Houston shall i start with you you got you're using bro you're using i think that they're gonna come through they've been playing well i don't see that stopping now they got my mental and they're in Houston right mhm so you're playing well too they are they just on the road once again know you get the young guys with that it's gonna be tough so even though they had a tough game last week that that builds character that's important can't we get i think i think i went to Houston on this one uh when we put up my picks to get you know what i mean yeah this is a big game i recommend we all pick the same list yeah yeah yeah i thought Houston was going to be going this is great because i didn't need to put these games up that's why it's so some of these big things i know bro yeah i would uh yeah i would with with with Houston um but i do have a question um if right y'all was on this Houston team y'all think that's the system for no no no i'm trash right no he's just not he's not he's not developed fast enough he's not see they strive i'm shooting some bill oh here we go see i see i knew it i knew i knew i knew i knew i said i'm like man i said i'm on the right i'm not expecting you to do it boy anybody bro you know i hate i hate anything anything anything with Alabama bro that's what i was definitely but uh i did like rice young but man Alabama QB just don't work out back you know he don't be able to hear his rice young you know who else we got we too would have this really fragile you know who's looking bad until you got to say about coaching and better team anyway but i'm just kind of curious because when i bring up rice young is trash when i watch a player like this little's awful i'll keep saying if you don't have any and he would be he would be better than he is in in carolines yeah really because it's just more stable environment and once again he would have more wibs than his stable environment yeah the mikko has that thing turned around bro they've been created an a locker room all yeah he's that culture yeah he's that culture he's he's a coach and he's something totally different and they believe and you got tanked they're looking like a top flight receiver right there you got nico college playing well right nobody on any of these guys no brown right no brown playing good was that these guys are making plays and the thing over it is um they're better than what in carolines he got out of three line that's it that's his one and only target out of the line catching getting eight targets nine ten targets game that's the problem that is because he's not a number one he's number two he's clearly number two he's not even a number two at this point and he is but he isn't what i mean by that he's even even when they let him go in Minnesota it makes sense so he wasn't good enough to be the number two in minnesota at this point but he's the number two in rebuilding team yeah that's why sure you know for four carolines that's a good number two yeah they still need a number one yes and he's the client number two yes he's he should be a guy that next series might be you know well well it should be but if he's in carolines and they ain't done no better than what they've been doing so far you know it's gonna be in that one row you know what needs to happen can't seem to give up a fifth round pick and go get out of deal now and now it makes sense that makes sense it will be a good cause he man i'm telling you he gets it open he gets about nine ten targets a game and he makes the place he makes the catch up but i went to the white boy that was in uh l.a. the l.a.

the left office and i heard what? no he been hurt oh he hurt he wasn't hurt um this doesn't cost me a damn fantasy match up bro i mean i saw he only had one catch yeah i'll coop ahead yeah i'll go ahead because i'm just even a little ten years ago i was just like i was just like i was just kind of if you on that but they got to convince me that he was the best he is that guy but he's been hurt no he's the best no he's the best no he was the best he was elite at one point but it's dead she was at one point the super boy here he was arguably the best part of the day he was super elite i don't want to believe but i think i think i didn't but she pukin the court until this part of the business time yeah what's up who's your people do you got problem we got to problem this match up they're going to have to be like niggles screwed up wait what yep they're not playing dimmer i don't know mick mick over here he hates trouble so much he hates trouble so much he don't even well we got to check these other pieces i'm gonna make sure they all right nick nick nick none of these are right really wow i didn't even look at it i just need to make you send uh because green bay actually plays detroit yes not san francisco what's the holidays do them all wow yeah he's looking at naturally yep he was looking at week 13 this week 12 same man oh yeah because i should have known better because we play on we play on them thanks given and i didn't hear this so it's three thursday games a friday games a black friday game and then sunday schedule as usual tell you i wanted to get one picks up on the flower with yeah we're gonna be on the flower go ahead all right what you see on there you like let's do a thanksgiving day game okay um just a thanksgiving day picks just all of them for thanks giving day yeah okay first one green bay at detroit you mean detroit you know you're trumpet you mean great great thing you're already right all right next my cowboys washington going to dallas i got dallas i got dallas don't know why you come back to me on that one please who you got king oh hey what it's in dallas so i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go with the cobwebs it's a trap game though it is it's really is i'm picking game with detroit next week so yeah this is a trap game who you got chill um dallas was not watching dallas okay all right the last game on thanksgiving is the 49ers going to seattle oh that's good it is these are good games to pick you know this i'm gonna go with the 49ers you got so you said going to seattle um since 49ers i don't know if dino's gonna play he came back that game didn't they said that they let me see i think they said something about him not being out just for y'all's therefore who you got okay it's in seattle in seattle running back christmccaffer no seattle's running back oh can i well i'm gonna see if you can actually find a gun give me the knock let's die you don't load the bullets you got to let them be just fly that you got 49ers i was a tough loss by seattle last week it was all right black friday game we can skip that's the jets couple of good games we can go from for sunday i'll start with philadelphia buffalo hey how many do we pick it we already did three we'll do a couple of one four we usually do four of five all right philadelphia buffalo philadelphia buffalo philadelphia gotcha he's my feeling really really can we get one buffalo i am too buffalo give me the bills give me the bills give me the bills i've been saying it all you know and the last one i only got some improvement i gotta get back on track this one to do it which looks on the road though it is trap guys gonna be tough let's go cleaving the denver really it seems that that jacks will be a houston jacks will be a houston's better that is tough that's really tough that's what a division lead or is it yes oh damn trial versus lance you know oh man how do you use it it's that he's that he's in bro yeah lance lance has some to say the day yeah he had like four touchdown hands and put up numbers who watches the show and tuddies like you know you like tuddies you know he's like column so we got two rutts two rutts two rutts two ruts two pounds pretty much nothing got jacks if he fucking jacks up though can you get one black baby well sort of come here you know coach black so oh man who you got show i'm gonna take these extra hours well man oh i'm on a bandwagon i kid good mm-hmm good see for you might be alone with such an as we and you know what i got i got to make some ground up and that was it those are the picks for the week they appreciate you all right got real what you talking about bro we were early today and all time uh all right let's get these super chats and we'll get out of here um let's see i think i was shouting out uh nico del as a new member uh uh shanico del we the boy said can it pick it going to get mike tomlin fired not it won't be kennedy pick it that do it i think the only way he'll get fired i think like i was there earlier i think he's gonna end up leaving or these young guys will come in and they just do things different than that daddy do uh so that's what i'm thinking if anything happened but he's been there a long time and um you know maybe it's maybe he just get his office and be like all right i'm out so and don't want to do this whole rebuild thing um so what was he someone said i used to re-spray it on a USA team over the summer so she was doing something but definitely one study uh tracigee give it up for my for all my egos dropping every Sunday we about to pull up hey tracie uh tomato sabago nico del i bet 70 dollars to win 10 dollars just to get some extra money from an like football solo under 60 points minus 713.5 finished with 62 what's your worst beat uh oh gambling i don't get me i don't even look at that kind of a bad beat um my worst beat shit that happens all the time lose my point five no i lost my point oh one i forgot who it was um betting on jewellery's random next guy yeah no one yeah i lost any final oh okay i i get y'all in the strategy about point one not point one point one tracigee the bears need to blow up the team defense to start on completely do the boys trade for a game since bucks not utilizing right tracie uh tracie uh tracie just got tracie right make that a rule yeah i think so and yes and there's need to blow it um when you um you could technically trade day but i think um it's after a certain time because you just got traded but you can't get right you can get traded twice in a season okay i got you got true yeah that that was that was a random event that i heard but tonight he normally don't say anything but i i got y'all shot at Adrian Wells remember for 25 months man salute to me man you gotta come on the show man one time we gotta we gotta highlight you bro he i think Adrian is Adrian is Adrian a Cowboys fan? Adrian Wells is a Cowboys fan how about you guys? i think it's i'm gonna start you he's the star to show every week Cowboys stuff appreciate you Adrian appreciate you first one before you got here bro everything nice yeah he would talk about Cowboys every week yeah so we gotta have you on bro 25 months yeah we need to get all that he's one of their three fans Tracy G blah blah blah don't be cheap for the top NFL team Jaylen showed us that the chief's cheating in the Super Bowls are now leprechaun Patrick i love Tracy man i love it uh uh Jaylen Jaylen Jaylen Jaylen Jaylen Jaylen Jaylen you know he just he just blew that Super Bowl uh yeah we're not gonna do that he lost that shit i'm not gonna do that guy uh cd this might be the worst MVP race ever i agree i agree too who is it i agree to pick somebody cjster help you know he win a bro yeah he's a he makes a playoffs and he should be should there's no very cool i think i think Jaylen and Patrick Mahomes are top of the lead i think yeah but but you know no knock to them they win but they're not it's not MVP well you know like the ball you know it's nobody that's balling out like that that deserves MVP yeah every one of the ones that at play will have showed some they'll ace me the last honest in your opinion which commission has done more for their sport commercially on the field court silver or giddell and i never pick a del bro i was gonna say silver not after what giddell is done but why you say so just by default just on oh yeah i'm gonna show that's like a deal why you say you know i feel it's the biggest thing in america part of that has to do with him and what he did off the politics with blue left i know dale is grown the dale is grown in this lead to places we we had the NFL play those days don't see you mean but i'm not even that just like the NFL drives sports talk like you can talk about NFL the people we interest at 12 months out of you true it's very rarely for any other because they're because it's um out of all of the major sports at least at least at least at least at one point exactly and then also because of when they play so they play in the weekend what throughout the week we're talking about what happened in that weekend you know what i'm saying in the area is a game in the middle of the world kind of sort of middle of the week there's a game so it gives you even more talking going into the weekend um also i think with roger giddell what he had to his advantage is um coming from paltagna vu is the internet yeah like think about it with paltagna vu what's the fucking commission of the NFL the internet and social media was not a thing um and just think about how many more revenue streams from selling your product now it's on youtube tv now it's on slink that was here now it's there you know it's not just the cable networks you have so many other ways to generate revenue so to me i'll i must take Adam silver only because it was a tougher job to do what he had to do versus in my opinion what they'll have to be well sir i thought he did a good job starting setting up but i think that silver is not gonna get out the park and the other thing is this um i don't know if y'all saw but i think they want to expand two or three more teams like in the next two or three years and i've been talking about expansion for years now silver has been really in seale i think this and what the third team gonna go i don't remember i like the season tournament i like the things it's silver it's done though i don't know no no no it's really all right when you're picking the deal bro i'm picking the NFL yeah okay uh one of the point i request uh challengeships to say we tripping to Lamar has been balling definitely playing better than my homes and hurts so i don't know if uh we'll see you can't say that because of the fact i child it's too serious i get it um yes i'll see i'll let me like any move Memphis to the east yeah Lamar Lamar has had some awesome games but like Spike says you know before quarter Lamar at times it's not existing he let them teams come back in the games a couple of those games and he's laid a couple of eggs he laid the eggs in and out his coats with the backup QB and i can't i can't say he's played perfect either he's played really well at times but he's been mediocre times as well uh this isn't as black and white as it seems but uh it's the interesting comment nevertheless i don't see we got a career 10 games suspicion for tweeting a link meanwhile dream i only gets five for choking to do it out so i thought that was interesting it's all about perception yeah i know niggas is gonna fight with them jul yeah i know and trust me that was bigger than Adam Silver he's out in karaew this week yeah with uh yeah that's bigger than Adam Silver he probably put that on because he thought he looked good yeah that's how i was thinking about it i was thinking he probably didn't think he felt it too political statement yeah this is fly bro this is fashion man no i'm fashion man check me out oh wait this meant something else though this karaewe there you go hey in terms of the expression they said uh Adam Silver named two teams last in seattle if they do add two teams move Memphis to the east and move them into sota to the east and leave those in there i guess that part because because once again we know they just gonna get it in yeah yeah they just got they got football they just got the age from baseball and now they're gonna get they're gonna get back to the back just a few more lsa's uh why don't we're talking about mat naggy being the kc oc as a reason why the office looks trash i have the last three because they'll look trash fully catching them all yeah that's that's not an offensive steam thing that's people making play the steam part though like like i said the steam part that i don't get though it's why they go away from the running around whatever but other than that they can't kiss the ball man they'll catch if they were catching these passes we wouldn't have a i put you like this they have 26 drop passes after last last game total for the season if they would have had 18 drop passes for the season they would have had that game one they want the game is a truck they might have been undefeated right now yeah they'd be Detroit let's uh drops yeah that was a drop because all right well they want y'all to catch my balls uh hell's age jeez still is better get 400 total offers of yards or better after firing Canada next game and kenny got no excuse not to be at least decent uh they don't happen like that you know what you're doing that's that's not realistic wait no gradually what should we expect from the first game um it should look better close to 300 at least 300 at least because it was hard even watch the game i hate watching still yeah i can slow it for anything because it was some crazy no i think they're playing um the browns aren't they all right just play it just play it just bros i did it i'm sorry like the last thing is an ad he actually i said he went yeah oh i'm glad you picked the game that would have been on the big deal with it would have it would have never been on the big deal with him i'm so down since the game again i know i know it's a show burrow is a single two row now for the rest of the year like the bingles nigga yeah russel he's but you got lucky because that this season one looking good i'm shit i'm kind of lucky because i fuck the burrows i don't want to see them but i like that uh so not gonna excuse uh Rob got to shout out to join the love he bawled out this week okay all right let's go show the brother some love yeah he definitely make it in the past and we kind of jump on he's been under the radar so you're starting around this is his first year starting all the way so you he feels even what going the best one from a rock but but can there's only but so much that you could learn on the better and around the big talk so yeah you need like right we're talking to him he was more to this exactly listening to his listening he took him on his wing like he would talk to do it like he would talk to a little not even conversation tomorrow uh wise man averaging 5.3 rebounds in detroit damn yeah it's up it's up to trombone about wise men is not how well he's playing it's the fact that he didn't get a chance to develop under the guy's who's with that would have made a difference for him he was scarred when he left there madly straighted so no he's not playing that well but that doesn't mean he's not trash especially still would help that team you know since they were a lot years away this is for you people now that the rock is looking to make single on the main guy are you ready to admit that k will be better than jaylin green um i always spoke you know look i said as a gm i would take it jaylin green because of the athletic ability um the basketball skill set jaylin uh kay cutting ham has more of the it because he controlled temple of the game jaylin doesn't do that jaylin just has upside because of the athletic ability but kay has more of the game that you want to build around um i think it's easy to say kay would be better than jaylin right now based off of what we've seen jaylin has not taking those steps that needs to be taken by year two right because he's what second year now yeah second year more third year damn yeah i know so this is his third year he's not taking any steps what do i always say three or five and this year he looked like another guy he don't look like the guy he just looks like a guy and yes and goo especially alas like that match because it's not going to make it because it's not going to make and the thing i like about saying goo was his hands i was talking about big man in their hands how soft are their hands and they catch the ball can they make can they make difficult uh catches when you know what they go always go perfect pass like then bounce passes for big man it's hard to get um and how does he later ball like what's his touch around the basket all of those things i love from him and his footwork is in fact he's a good pass or two and he's a good pass but most big man to have soft hands like that and have such around the basket and can pass the ball well can't he just stay healthy what's up what's up with it sorry two and two and two i tried to tell y'all that i said it's great i'm saying oh my god i'm saying to you i don't get it i don't get it i don't do we put we put we put it emphasis so much on talent and what we know individual players are going to be but you put that to can i just start a new coach and make an enhance may do you know do you have money with money but it's still it's still more than that it's just it's more you know you got to have veterans you got to have it if you're going to win in the mba you're not going to win with a young team i mean i take time yeah the roster's the mess they got k-gun to him jade and i'll be killing and hey you're still there you know so they got all these pieces that are similar and like i've always said when you draft that many pieces everybody can't go you know shout out the bit of the like everybody can't go you're going to have to trade some of those guys before roll guys they'll get some moves good they got back lead they got man yeah they got the rant they got the rant they got they got a they got to collect a nice collective of pieces that they can move they that's who the ones we want to keep with who's the one way go yeah to me my opinion uh daran k-i-v in the twin nor else it can go twin because he's a rookie and he shows a lot of problems yeah sort of he plays defense he remails and i like him but the rest of them can go all of them bigs the majority them bigs wise and you can you know send them somewhere else i like him in that manner if he would come down right up but yeah the rest of it would go but that's the same thing about dealing green too though like a lot of these guys man they come in the league they really don't know how to put basketball they got talent they got skills and they can jump out of the gym they can someone can shoot but you still got to learn the game you got to know how to play the game and there's so many facets i sent a video that but nara king was talking about just just one side of the ball but he was talking about his score and he said there's nine spots on each side of the floor and five spots at the top he said he has nine spots that he can go to and he has different ways to get there and every way that you can count of him he has a count of four so he talked about he breaks down his mind sees the floor differently than people and i'm thinking like hey a lot of basketball players that way they think about the great ones are they see the game different some of these young dudes just be like i buss you know i buss you up it's me the round in that it's me lord in that it's so much more than i know what i saw in jail and green was not that like he's just not mature somebody that's showing the intelligence to move the ball in the proper way to get you to take your play basketball because the game of basketball is literally about passing moving getting the easiest shot the way we teach basketball in america like you said i'm a bus show and i'm gonna take the toughest shot i'm gonna cross you i'm gonna make you look back to make you look good right and basketball at the highest level do you need some of that here and of course but if you're doing a championship that's not championship level basketball and not everybody has a dream like to do that right there's only one or maybe two guys that have the freedom to do what they want to do everybody else that way i wrote uh last one shot of the cam w said uh cp and book had us believing marty was a good coach damn mmm damn manti was a good coach he is i like my yeah he is it's tough what he's doing right now manti always takes over reclamation projects if you if you look phoenix was the only one that was kind of sort of ready to take the next step and even when he got there he got there when uh they drafted uh big man oh uh a agent because when they got the uh booker it was erwatson he took from erwatson so yeah kind of the erw he told management once you saw booker he like i i know what you pick who's the guy um got dumped on by diong jordy and got messed up by kyereven night brand brand brand yeah they pay brand and night big money and then they had another guy i can't think and they drive and so bledsoe mmm they pay brand and night and pay bledsoe and when they drive the book he told everybody hey i'm not starting them they like skit all right here all of these are the Kentucky guards all three of them all these two guys right here not this is the guy so you know look at the end of the day basketball is a business and that's the business when you have a hundred million dollars invested into two guys and you draft a rookie or go play that's why they had to move on of them right because you can't you can't put a hundred million or a 50 million on the bench all right well that's going to do it for us we appreciate you guys coming through uh kicking orders make sure you guys let somebody know about the show please uh we always welcome new voice that's like coming to strive yeah yeah like coming subscribe i see a couple of names in here so that's dope so that's dope and we've been picking up subscribers we'd like you guys to come through uh so that's it we'll catch you guys next week we out peace please thank you thanks you guys happy thanks

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