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Jun 27, 2019 55 min

Child's Play 2 (1991)

from Horror Movie Night Hosted by Geekscape

In our continued efforts to discuss every killer doll movie ever made, as well as to coincide with the reboot now in theaters, your hosts revisited some kinder-trauma with 1990's CHILD'S PLAY 2! We come to a general consensus that this is the best entry in the series, though maybe not everyone's favorite (ahem Brian), and spend the entire episode gushing over how good the Chucky effects look. We're all smile because we have a friend til the end this week and forevermore here on Horror Movie Night!

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If you're craving more content on something for your favourite TV shows, then you should listen to Binge Town TV. Find us on our website at BingeTownTV.com, the Apple Podcast app, Spotify, or wherever else you may find your podcast. Out of Horror Movie Night this week, we are discussing Child's Play 2, arguably the best Child's Play movie of the entire franchise. I said it, I'm going to stick by it.

I've got about a page and half to two pages worth of notes explaining why I feel that way. So let's, we're still live on YouTube at this point, so let's hash this out. I'm going to say this, man. I think that Child's Play has like, and I can't really speak, I think one of the newer ones I didn't see, but like next to, no, I would say Child's Play has probably like the most consistent franchise.

I agree. Because Don Mansever, all of them. Yeah. But like, it was almost like they went from a straight horror, and this movie was when they realised that horror can be fun.

And then Child's Play 3 was a learning curve. I've never seen 3, is it worth watching? I will talk about it one day. That's why I got on the performance list.

Yeah, it's definitely not the best, but then like, dude, I'm fucking pride of Chucky and C. Chucky are just like, they are so fucking fun. They're just comedy. They're not the harm.

Yeah, but that's why I don't ever want to watch them again. I don't think I've even ever seen the entirety of C. Chucky. I think I saw like a greatest hitster like the middle of it at a party in high school or college.

The best thing about C. Chucky not to get off track is J.J. But John Waters can yell. Wait, you sold me?

I'll watch it. That's all I had to say, buddy. What do you want me to do? Draw you a fucking picture?

Could you? Someone get a pencil! Yeah, you please, it plays a trashy tabloid journal. That's the best thing in mid-century.

Anyway, so I actually think that this is the first Child's Play movie I ever saw. I feel pretty confident. That sounds right, but it wasn't the first I ever saw. You know, the first one I saw was Bride of Chucky, which makes no sense because you have no known like, backup information.

You don't have any exposition. I mean, I guess they do a good enough explanation. But yeah, so yeah, so Bride of Chucky is the first one I ever saw. And what about you, B.Kell?

It's John's Play-Toe. Yeah, he watched it. You guys watched it together? He watched it at the sleepover that I had for my birthday.

Yeah. What birthday was it, 11? Probably 10 or 11, something like that. Right when I first dip in my toe into horror movies.

And it was funny because I remember, I think this is the first time I've watched it since then. I think it's been a while. Maybe I watched it one other time, but I remember the wax being like bright orange because I thought it was like pretzel dip cheese. Like that's what I thought he was killed with at the end was cheese.

My other memory of this, because like, here's the thing, and I doubt any of the guys would ever hear this. And they were really good dudes. But the people that were at my sleepover at that particular time were like... No last names, Matt.

No last names. No, I'm not going to give any last names. They were like guys who also played on the sports teams I was forced to play on. So like, not really like best friend material.

They were just kind of guys that I was in a type of social circle with. Yeah. This is the infamous sleepover, Scott. This is when I watched Child's Play Starship Troopers and wasn't allowed to watch Porky.

So I went upstairs to watch species with my parents. And they realized they made a mistake. Wow, I would let my kid watch Porky before a subspecies or before species any day. But species fucked me up.

There's like, well, not as bad a species too though, but we'll get to that. What? It had just come out. I feel like your parents were pretty bad at judging what movies were about.

They didn't ask questions. Like the only time that I ever... That's bad parenting. Yeah, game's not screwed me.

And then I had to get my Aunt Gail to buy it for me. Because my parents took me to GameStop to get Conker's Bad Birthday. And I was like, this is perfect. Wait, what?

Conker's Bad Birthday was a video game about a squirrel that got wasted. And he's hung over and he has to find his way home. And everywhere he goes is a reference to a genre of movies. How do you spell that?

CLMKRS. For N64, it's tied with Metal Gear Solid as the best game ever made. But anyway, the guy... That's wild boast!

The guy at GameStop was like, this is a little bit too... I don't think your son's mature enough for this game. So my mom's like, I'm not getting it for you. And then I got my Aunt Gail to get it a month later.

So here's a question. Why are you not a furry? After that, is it sexualized? Is she a rabbit on the front there?

Because I played this at an age where boobs were funny. You know? Because I wasn't allowed to see him. It wasn't like, oh, it was everything funny.

Boobie. Take up, mom. But then the other thing is that this was the infamous... I'm pretty sure this is the chucky getting a swirly sleepover as well.

No, it couldn't have been. It couldn't have been. Because Child's Play 2 was the first one I saw. And then I got obsessed with Chucky after that.

And I was pissed. They gave my Chucky because Matt had a Chucky and I had a Chucky. But I had a Bride of Chucky Chucky. Like I had like a...

Like a Sticky-Gear. Yeah. And they gave it a Swirly. And his hair was in the same.

So hey! Someone tried to fix it in the dryer, which just made it way worse. So guys, I just... I have a public service announcement for anybody listening, as well as anybody on the live stream.

But mostly people listening. You might want to go on incognito mode to look up Conker's Bad Fur Day because I wasn't wrong. There's a lot of shitty deviantart kind of furry porn. Yeah, I mean, there is furry porn on Sonic.

So there's 100% going to be furry porn on fucking Conker's Bad Fur Day. No, it else is really disturbing. Furry porn on Zootopia. Yeah, that gets creepy.

That's a... I mean, furry porn is creepy, but like Zootopia is really fucked up. Because... She's so sweeping.

Because you have a crush on... Judy Hopper. Judy Hopper. Judy Hopper.

Um, anyway. Matt, like Judy's not... I may or may not have a deviantart page just directed towards... Yeah, you can't escape it.

Oh yeah, that's a topian porn is gross. Wait, wait a minute. Can you tell me a link so I don't have to watch it properly? Um, those are awful.

What websites? Anyway, so Child's Play 2. The horror sequel that's spawned by them trying to do a PR cover up is just... Which is such a great 1991 concept.

Like, evil corporations, just... This would be really smart. Dom and Sini, obviously. Dom and Sini?

Yeah, I think that's it. He is just like... Super smart. I think that this was the best and only way you could have gone from the original Child's Play into a sequel.

There's no more. I'm not giving... I'm not giving their other sequels like a free pass because I think that some of them stretch a bit. Although I do really love Curse of Chucky.

I don't know about cults, but I loved Curse of Chucky. I think that's... I think that's why I'm a teen. Oh, Curse of Chucky is really good.

It's like a lot darker than most of the stuff. It's more closely... Totally. It's much closer to...

Maybe Child's Play 2. Probably Child's Play the original though, because it's pretty dark. I mean, it's got Chucky making some quips, but also the quips in this. I was expecting...

This was my first watch. I was expecting a lot more quips, and I was very happy that he's more pissed off than a stand-up comic because that's really... To me, that's the sign that a franchise has gone on too long. You know, as much as I enjoy Dream Warriors, that's when Freddy starts doing his quips.

You know, like, what an approach. A time-bitch. You know, and I think that really... Hellraiser 3 is when we get...

I don't know. It's the best and worst take on Pinhead, in my opinion. I mean, these are all controversial opinions from a white guy that doesn't matter what I think, but then we got Freddy 13th. I mean, when did Jason become a caricature?

I don't even know. I think... What's tougher? Yeah, and it's also tougher when they don't...

It doesn't talk. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, think about all the franchises. I think that there is a...

I mean, TCM 2 really is... So when the whole franchise kind of became a comedy, but TCM 2 is my favorite now. I mean, not for lack of... Toby who'd be trying to make the first one a comedy, but...

Screen 5 would have had gross face like blowing up someone up, and he's like, you're fired. And he's like, I'm going to the house. He's like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. So he runs in his knife stays in the air for a few seconds, and his arm grabs it.

So the might be like, this specific movie, I love it right from the opening shot, like the opening shot of the burnt up chucky head. Oh, yeah. When they scrape it back. Okay, so this is a thing is that I think that we are...

I'm trying to think of the term. I'm trying to think of the right word, because I want to say spoiled, but it's not spoiled. I think that we're spoiled in a way because we don't have to sit through intro credits anymore, but intro credits that are exposition are so good. So cool.

Because like, this is like one of the best. I think that Gremlins 2 had a really great exposition type intro. I think that you can do it in a cool way too, with like Knight of the Demons, where they have the animated with a great theme song. There are ways you can do it.

Like Halloween 4 has a great intro. Halloween 4 has a great intro. Most of the Halloween franchise knows how to do it stylistically. Yeah, and Halloween 5.

Halloween 5 is an underrated intro, because it's like basically just the sound of a knife going into a pumpkin. At the end, you see the jack-o-lantern. Really? In general.

I think that night now, and I'm sure it also was usually pretty good, because they would have like these weird... You were always inside of a nightmare for the opening credits. Well, not the first one. Oh, well, I guess the first one.

You're walking in the boiler room in the first one. Yeah, but I feel like the first one starts with seeing the origin of the glove. Yeah, but that's before I'm either ready to be named or anything. I think that's like a quick...

It says New Line Cinema, West Cramen Film, Night Right On Street. So, I don't know, I think that it's kind of a gray area. We're just being pedantic now. But yes, this is an awesome intro.

They're scraping up all the pieces of him, and they're basically making him fresh and new, and then astute. Which is a bad fucking idea. Why would you do this? I think they wanted to make...

He says that they're trying to prove that someone had malfunctioned with the doll. Right. I mean, again, but also it's just really stupid of them. And it's the only thing like you said, it's nothing that makes sense.

Because there is absolutely no reason to dig up that doll, clean him off and remake him, unless you're trying to have an argument in court, like a legal argument where it's like this doll isn't on it. Yeah. Like I imagine they were just like, oh man, we need to remake a chucky. Here's an old robot one.

Let's rebuild it. You'd be like, that's so fucking stupid. Just make one for five cents because they're cheap to make dolls. And I've got some questions about the way that they make chucky dolls for later on in this episode.

But so they insert the eyeballs into the toy to finalize building it, and that's when chucky's soul is re-entered into the body and causes just an electrical malfunction that like blows one into it. It looks so good too. It goes straight through the glass and spaces all sliced up. Good shit.

Yeah. So fucking good. Like, that's the thing about this movie. It feels 1991, but in the best possible way.

It's like Candyman level nostalgia from here. We watch it and you're like, oh, I remember a good 90s, early 90s, like this is like one of the last one of those movies that I saw. Well, not one of these movies, but like this look was one of the first ones that I saw stylistically that feels like, okay, this is pre-strain. Yeah, well, and the chucky moves so well too, which is very well done.

Oh, yeah. Very well done. Better than the first one, better than most of them really, because it's all practical, but it's also they know when to fold and when to hold, where they're like, okay, we can't get chucky to do this thing right here, full body. So let's just have his facey moat.

Yeah, like it's really great. They really know, like you said, fold and hold. They know when to use him. So Andy is getting adopted while his mom is in a psych ward.

And his boss, which is dark. So dark. His foster parents kind of suck. Like, well, no, no, no, no, no, beef.

No, no, no, no, no. The act, I said his beef. I'm talking about from a parental standpoint. Like, I 100% on Kyle's side, she is going to have to live on her own in a year.

It maybe isn't that important to her to have family dinner time. Like she needs to do some money. That is a personal vendetta that you're putting on for this movie. I'm not going to stand for it.

That's a thing though, is I'm with you, Matt. Fuck family dinners. They are stress inducing to them. But it's a mess that you've got the dad who's like so unsympathetic to the fact that this kid was traumatized.

Also, how do you miss a chucky doll in the bed room? And then he's just like, it's just a fucking doll. Like, did you not read the piece on this child at all before you took over here? No, we didn't.

Yeah. Okay, here's the thing. As before you say anything, Brian, I got to say, I think that there's a bit of reality in this movie, a dark reality where adoption agencies are just absolutely overrun with kids. Because people are going to pop out kids that they don't have the ability to take care of or their fucking pieces of shit and they lose their kids.

And you know how hard is the Loser Kids and CPS? Like, super fucking hard. You have to be found with a fucking heroin needle in your arms to lose your kids in 2019. I'm sure there wasn't much better in 1991.

Apparently, side note, in 1991 Chicago's foster care was almost exclusively the palest of white children running around. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, do you think that Chicago has any brown people in it? Have you been to Chicago?

It's all white people. Later on in the movie when all the kids are leaving because of the fire alarm, I'm like, oh my god, it's all white kids. They couldn't get in with the brown kid union. Yeah.

I guess Dom Manseid even stroked to a corner and said, stereo didn't really worked out in his favor. Okay, so Dom Manseid, you might have a blind spot because he is a gay white man. That's true. Yeah.

But he's not like, you know, he's he's he's he's fallible. So anyway, let's get back to the movie. So there's some darkness here where they don't look at the case. They're like, okay, well, she's like, whatever the woman's name is, gets stabbed in the chest later is like, oh, you should take him.

And they're like, okay, I guess. And so they just fucking leave with him. It's like, they didn't really have time to plan it out because the adoption agency was just like, you'll love him. He's a great kid, even though he's traumatized from seeing people get murdered.

So I get it. But then we go back to the, um, we go back to the evil corporation and the little toady who who was like, oh, things will be fine if we reanimate this doll. He grabs the he grabs the chuckie that's then remade. He doesn't realize it yet.

And he throws it in the back of his car, which is full of toys, which I think is very funny because he doesn't even fuck with the toys. They're just like prototypes or him doing market research or whatever. He throws him face down and check. He keeps going.

I like to be hugged. I like to be hugged. I like to be hugged, which is actually Chuckie became my spirit animal. No, no, no, you're combining two things.

This is my slapping of two things combining. Um, the, I like your balls. You know, baby, I like the, I like to be hugged. Was the Tommy doll that they had at the house that Chuckie knocks over because then.

Oh, the good guy. Okay. Then he else hugged this and starts beating it with the vase. Okay.

All right. All right. No, it's not a vase. It's like this weird piece of like China ceramic that just like, oh, oh, that's also really, this movie has a lot of really dark comments, which I think are great where, um, Andy's like, the mom is like, my grandmother gave it to my mother and my mother gave it to me.

And he's like, well, who are you going to give it to? And she doesn't have any answer for that because I'm assuming that they're infernal, which is totally fine. Like be a fucking foster parent. Please, even if you are a fiddle, be a fucking foster parent.

This movie should be like giant red sign, like be a foster parent, but just bet your kids because they might bring the killer doll home who's going to kill you with the sewing machine. Um, but yeah. So, uh, also this mom does, this, the foster mom does get a bit of a, um, a strike against her because she makes fucking egg salad for lunch. How divorced from kids do you have to be to be like, I'm going to give you the stinky one.

I don't care how much you like the taste of egg salad. There's no time when you should have egg salad in a paper bag inside of a plastic bag. Inside of a paper bag and then a plastic bag because it's just going to sneak up your kids locker and they're going to get laughed at. It's still over failure right now to gate.

Exactly. Egg fucking, exactly. No wonder Kyle wants to get. So Kyle, speaking of who's like kind of a picture.

I can't get your. It reminds me and I don't know how accurate this is because I was like, eight, but it kind of reminds me of a babysitter I had, but I don't remember anything about the babysitter, which is weird. All I remember is that the babysitter taught me all the words to regulate by Warren G. Wow.

I feel like I'm learning so, I mean, we've been podcasting for over six years together. Almost every week. And I'm learning new shit all the time. This makes so much sense about your desire for white boy rap.

I blame that woman. Yeah. So Kyle is very, she's better with kids than the fucking foster parents are. Like she knows how to talk to Andy like a person because you can talk to kids like people, but like with the sensitive loves of like knowing what's appropriate for a kid.

I think you guys are like in the dad, like you're you're you're you're lumping the dad. His name's beef. You can Joanne. Joanne Joanne tries.

She does try. She tries until obviously until beef, neck, it's naps. And then she's like, yeah, that was for me, child. Before we talk about before we talk about that, there's one other kill that we need to talk about, which is the Sparkle Motion teacher.

Oh, dude, I have the quote that she got down Mrs. Kettleworth's dedication to Sparkle Motion. But the thing is that we have the best quote from the movie and it's not from Chucky. Get lost, Michael Chip.

My book chip. But weird thing is that I wonder if I was like six, the entire classroom scene, I'm like, remember scene for scene, every scene that happened. If you're watching on YouTube, I use the clip of Chucky with a ruler. It is my favorite shot of Chucky in the entire franchise.

When he's just like walking like this. He's walking with the ruler in his hand. He just looks so menacing and creepy. The entire franchise?

All of the movies is my favorite shot of Chucky. That's a lot. That's a lot to say. I don't know if I have the answer to that.

If you were to like quiz me on that, I don't know if I'd have an answer because I definitely want to rewatch Shouseplay and curse at Chucky. But I mean, it's great. It is great. But I also really like when he's in the car with the dude and he has that gun that you know isn't a real fucking gun.

It's just like the size of Chucky's hand. And then he shoots the guy in the face and goes, I don't know. I can't watch this movie and not think about graveyard shift now because that's the last movie that I saw him in. The teacher also gets an air pump in the chest.

Oh, by the way, you would absolutely get an embolism and die way before you get stabbed in the fucking chest six or seven more times. She gets a brutal fucking death. So of all the times we've seen her die on our podcast, is this the worst? Probably.

I feel like she gets killed off camera a lot too. Brent Dorif. Okay. Whose daughter is in later the future for the franchise, which I love.

I just love that. So Chucky kills the teacher. So now oh here's a question. Are we going to gloss over the fact that he cleaned up his mess?

Like he cleaned up all that blood. He cleaned up that room. He hid the body somehow and nobody's like, oh, the teacher's dead and call the house. Like would no one know this because it was only detention.

It wasn't it was probably like three o'clock in the afternoon when she got fucking murdered. I think you're looking too logically into a Chucky movie at that point. This is the movie that look logically into because it's like the most logical of the chucky's of the guys for the next two weeks. Yeah.

So yeah, we're going to go. Thoughts are taking over. Yeah, that's true. I can't wait.

I can't wait. So that's going to come out right after the week after it's released. So you'll hear our if you're listening to the podcast and watching live stream, you'll hear our in theater now episode. Hopefully we liked it, but I'm excited.

I'm sorry. It's got more camel. There's no way I'm not going to have a good time. But yeah, no, it's going to be fun.

But the other big thing that happens in this movie is that so, you know, Chucky kills the teacher. Comes back to the house and he. Hasn't hang and feel. Andy makes a decision.

Andy is going to kill Chucky and he does it the best way he knows how. He pulls a Seth Green. Look at me on letter face and he hits a turkey knife or whatever it's called. Yeah, that's turkey knife and he's down there ready to go.

And that's when beef shows up and things don't go so well for beef at that point. Yeah. Also, I was really. So this was my oh, it was the cheapest.

Well, not cheapest. It was the least painful kill, the quickest kill and also the one that I would feel most appreciative to be murdered by Chucky because I've seen him murder a lot of people. I think this is the best way to go. So yeah, just fucking kill me.

That's like 30 seconds of horror in your life and you've been your dead. Like it's a win win. Yeah, I want to go. Yeah, so I was pretty shocked because I did say that this is my first watch.

I was pretty shocked that beef got killed and I'm even more shocked that the mom got killed. And that was a really that tableau of her like turning her around and it felt very how he H2O and they're just like dead bodies with like crazy shit that's happened to him. Like I really loved it was a great. Chucky turned Joanne to Joanne Fabrics.

Really, really Joanne. Fuck, it's amazing. I can hold this up the camera. But if you can see I have a note that says there's a Joanne Fabrics took somewhere to.

I can see it. So this is where so all that stuff's great. But it's the next part of the movie where things get fucking awesome. And that's Chucky gets the car with Kyle.

She tries to kill him. Chucky escapes with Andy. Flips her the bird from the back of the truck. And from this.

That's really where that is the like welcome to prime time bitch of the child's play franchise where Chucky stopped being a menacing wise cracker to being a straight wise cracker. And I'm okay with it. It worked well for this. This point on the truck stops and they go inside the factory.

And the last third of this movie is like perfect. It's perfect. No, it's pretty close. It's pretty shut up Brian.

There's only one issue with the last 30 minutes of this. And it is not a comedy scene. It is a serious scene that they shot comedy style which was him falling down the slide. And it's just like a camera painting on Tommy.

Like, whoa, 10 seconds with no comedic value. I was like, wow, that is so parody in a serious scene. All right. So you got to get the only shot.

Anyway, so one of the things I love is that Chucky actually finishes the ritual in this movie. It's been too long that he's a doll so it doesn't do anything. I love that he starts to bleed. That's super cool.

Here's the thing about this movie is that. So I think that Don Mancy and he did the right thing with this thinking, you know what, lightning's not going to strike twice or lightning's not going to strike three times. So the first one, I said what I wanted to say. Second one, I made.

I can write a second movie, but you know what? I doubt there's going to be another one because it's hard to go back. It's hard to go on from where we are here. And so he really does a great job of setting up the tableau of all the moving parts in the factory and you get a nice kill with that guy in the eyeball.

Yeah, eyeball the scene. Probably my favorite kill in the movie. Well, I guess it's my favorite kill, but I don't think it's the best death. I think that the most horrific death is definitely Joanne really because it's off screen, but it's also the more horrific because you know it's going to happen.

But you know it's happened and then she pulls the Kyle Pulsar aside and you get to see that. That's what I'm saying. It's a very Michael Myers kill because a lot of Michael Myers kills her off screen, which is why Halloween is a very bloodless movie, but so good. And effective.

But I think that Don Manseen did the right thing by being like, there's no way to go beyond this. And so he really went balls the wall all out in this last 15 minutes. And you get three, you get Chucky come back three times. And every time he looks at you, well, not every time, but it's great.

But like, you know, they're running through the labyrinth of dolls, which is really, really cool. Oh, so good. And then so here's the thing. This is what I like about the movie is that Chucky realizes that he's trapped as his doll forever, which means that he has got like no fucks left to get.

Like, not only is he going to kill Andy, he doesn't even care what he looks like anymore. So like when they slam his hand down, he fucking... He just pulls the... Oh, there's a sinews and stuff.

I love that little... That's a little movie detail that I really love. Yeah, he rips his hand off like it's Evil Dead, the remake. And then he makes himself a knife hand.

He like tapes his hand with the packaging tape. It's his blade cosplay, dude. Don't hate it. It looks so...

And so here's the thing. So I said that him holding the rulers, my favorite shot of Chucky. Now let me explain one more thing that is a favorite Chucky thing for me because I love this franchise. Stitched up Chucky has always been one of my favorite Chucky looks.

But my favorite Chucky look is Chucky with knife or hands and legs sewn to a board on like a wheelie cart as he's just dragging himself. He looks so fucking badass and scary at the same time. Well, the thing also is that it's a very interesting little jab at Chucky by having his balls stapled because he's a doll, but he's becoming a human. And so he's getting his balls sewn into like a little wheelie, whatever.

And he's like, I'm gonna cut your legs off. I don't even care. So here's the thing though. There's one question that I'm very confused by with this movie.

And it's... What is the purpose of the button that Andy pushes that apparently just brings a doll back into the one thing and just starts shoving arms and legs into it until you tell it to stop? Like why was that built on that conveyor belt? I don't understand what purpose it serves.

It's quality control. You're often concerned about that than the fact that you can press a button and spray hot wax everywhere but in the clothes. Yeah, like at the end of this movie, I am on, I am here for the fucking ride. I have paid the admission.

I have done an hour and 10 minutes of Cherokee development. I don't give a shit about logic anymore. I am just ready for some mayhem. And the baby, baby, that's a...

Whatever it takes reference for any noobs out there that haven't been with the show for four fucking years and have heard us talk about that movie at Nauseam. Anyway, so you get the house of wax Jared Patti Lucky kill. And I love it. I just...

I mean, I saw it coming a mile away. Still loved it. Everything about this movie was probably so fresh in 91. And the thing is that when we talk about movies, I think out of the dark is a great example.

When we talk about movies that were kind of ahead of their time, you can still feel that charm, which is really cool to me where it's not like, oh, I've seen this a million times, because we have the ability to be like, oh, this is where the trope originated, or this is an earlier incarnation of the trope, and it's so charming and it's so fresh and it's so entertaining. Like, I think that there's that... This movie is really one of the better movies that I really put off. You know, I put it off because I knew...

Behind the... Where's the behind the curtain? I can see Matt's Trello list. I can see Brian's Trello list.

I can see my Trello list. And I knew this was coming like two years ago. And I was like, oh, I'll just wait. There are a couple other ones that I know for a fact that I really want to watch.

And I'm just waiting. But that said, I have a lot on my list that the two of you guys probably shouldn't watch because they're at least a year out, and I have to vet them because they may be fucking garbage. But so don't go through my list like, maybe I want to watch this. Just like do the Matt Kelly where you're like, oh, I found this with Khan.

I guess I'll watch it. Like where do my next is it my next pick, Matt, the 92? I can't remember. I think that might be my next.

I'm pretty sure that's my next one. That one I've been waiting and you were waiting and you picked up a Khan and you did the quality control check and you're like, yeah, yeah, Scott, yeah, do it. And so just like ignore my Trello list because my Trello list, I added like 30 things today because I'm amping up for my birthday pick. And I'm like, oh, I need something good.

But also. All right, let's do our final thoughts and start to wrap up a little bit. So all in all, I still say, this is if not my favorite child's play, it's tied with bride. It is a very good fucking movie.

It just depends on which type of chucky I'm looking to watch, I think. Yeah, I definitely need to rewatch Curse after watching this to make a decision about which one I whether I like Curse better than this, which kind of is blasphemy. That's somebody that's like, if somebody is like, you know, I like Halloween H2O better than Halloween 1978, but who gives a fuck, you know? I see I love child's play too.

But the issue, it's not an issue, but it's hard for me to say when something does such a dramatic genre shift throughout the series, you can't like I can't compare bride of chucky, seat of chucky to child's play one, two, and three because they're just different. They're different movies all in all. Do you think that child's play one, two, and three are kind of like their own thing and then everything after is its own thing? I think so.

And I would be I would think that because three is almost like, and it's been a while since I saw it, but the best way I can describe it is three is more goofy, but it's almost like a town that read its sundown in a sense, that it's like a hard movie with just very goofy scenes. I think that you're talking about slapstick. I haven't seen shouts play three, but I've seen town that there's sundown and it's very like, like when they draw it hard, you know, like, yeah, it's very slapstick. It's weird.

It's a weird movie. The weird thing is that they all have it like, they all connect together logically. Thank you, Don and see me. Because like even how chucky comes from his demise in this into part three makes sense, and then, you know, bright of chucky and everything else.

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All right, so double feature. Matt, you go first because you picked this one. All right, so I'm going to go with the more logical one, and then after you guys say I'll say what my kind of weird goofy one was, but I'm going to go with demonic toys. Damn it.

That was my first, for me, that's the gimme. That's a low hanging fruit because this one feels very much like demonic toys because if you were to split all of Chucky, all of Chucky's good qualities into like six mediocre killer toys, you get demonic toys. And I was thinking also just because of the warehouse. Yeah, oh for sure.

Like it made me think demonic toys. I'll let you guys go and then I'll say my really absurd one. Brian, do you need time? You want me to do?

I need time. Okay, so this is a little off the beaten path, but if I was really doing a double feature with Child's Play 2, I would pick who frame Roger Rabbit as the intro. I start with who frame Roger Rabbit and then do Child's Play 2. It's because of the fucking dip because this movie, if you guys had seen it when, okay, so Matt, you were 10 or 11 Brian.

That would make you what? Six years old? Yeah, about that. About six years old.

That's kinder drama, right? The shot of his talk is about that. And Roger Rabbit is totally a kids movie, but that movie fucked me up because like that dip scene is nuts. It's not the dip scene.

I'm sorry. It's the fucking steam roller scene. Yeah, when he gets run, I stopped watching it that point. I couldn't.

I saw it in theaters and I was horrified. I didn't see the last five minutes until like six years later. But I loved it. I loved the idea of Roger Rabbit.

It's just that it was so scary to me. I was like 92 at one of the best movies ever. I still like one of the best movies ever. What?

I think it's a massive, even outside of genre, you think that that movie is one of the best movies? I think it's one of the best written scripts. They did a fantastic way because they basically just rewrote, it's Chinatown. It's the Chinatown screenplay.

I was trying to think of what the crime noir was. Yeah, it's like they just were like, let's remake Chinatown and let's put this cartoon character in it. And but like here's the thing, what they did that was smart was that they never stopped it from being a film noir. You know what I mean?

Like it is a new art film. It's just a new art film that's wacky. And I think that that's really cool. So I love that.

But I also think that it did so much shit that had never been done as seamlessly as that before. So like it's kind of an important movie. I'm pretty sure like it's even on like AFI's list of like 100 most important films of all time. Like it's I would very highly rank it as like pieces of cinema.

Are you saying are you saying that Bob Hoskins in Who Frame Roger Rabbit is better than Bob Hoskins in Super Mario Brothers? Yeah, that's pretty much it. So Brian, back me up here, bro. I'm guessing that Matt holds Roger Rabbit in such high esteem because his first boner was nice to just grab it.

Is this true? It could be because I don't know if she was my first but she's my most recent. Wow. Brian Kelly, how's that a boner since 1996?

Or yesterday. All right, Brian, what's your double feature, bro? So this is I mean, it's not too much of a stretch but just trying because demonic toys is really the perfect one. But I would I would go with Scream.

Really? Because A, the error of when they came out, the age of when I watched both of these and my biggest thing for thinking of it now is Chuckie's hand caught in that cage and his reaction is so similar to Billy when Nev Campbell is hiding in the closet and he's got the phone and he's like, I've got to find you. You fucking bitch. You hear me?

Like if you put them side by side, they're so fucking similar in the way that they like react. Brian, I got a project. I got a project for you for by the time this episode comes out. Side by side?

No, I was going to say just take Billy's dialogue and put it over top. Or by first. I think that would be easier to do Chuckie, obviously. Yeah.

But so the goofy one that I had was going to be Jaws. Jaws or Jaws 3D? No, Jaws 1 because they're both universal movies, right? This is the Universal Monster?

This is a Universal movie, yeah. So Brian was talking about when Andy sliding down the thing and then Chuckie jumps out, just like when the shark jumps out of the water and attacks Quinn, they blow up Chuckie like they blow up the shark and then it both ends with the two surviving people walking off into the sunset, like the way that Chief Rody and Richard Rifus swim their way back to shore at the end of Jaws. I don't know, dude. Yeah.

That's a stretch. Just more of a stretch. You ever see the eyes of a shark get eyes like a doe, doe eyes? The devil's eyes.

There we go. Back to Halloween 78. All right. So the things that we liked?

Yeah. So I'll pick it up. Can I kick it off? Yeah, go for it.

The perfection. Have you guys watched it yet? No. I'm told that I shouldn't hear anything about it and I'm going to be in a bunch of hotels for the next seven days.

So I'm going to watch it at some point or in the group. Yeah, actually. So Katie from the group. She's our friend, but I'm saying like anybody that listens, Katie from the group, suggests she posted the trailer when it was coming out onto Netflix, when they had a release date.

And we were at Pop Rock and Horror when it actually dropped. And so obviously I didn't have time. But when I worked from home this week, I just put some time aside to watch it throughout the day. And she and I wrapped about a little bit on Messenger after I finished it.

And we are of the agreement and of the opinion that it is a one and done film. Really fucking good. But it's not a movie that you really want to watch again. Yeah, I can't remember.

She saw that at the same time. She saw it at Fantastic Fest. Yeah, she saw when I was seeing something else. And I think she saw that when I saw FP2.

So I was like 3 AM. She said she said it's like 3 or 4 AM in the morning when she started. She had been watching movies for 10 straight hours. Yeah, then it might have been that because the FP was like midnight release.

Yeah, so it might have been that. Yeah, because I know that she saw terrified. The same. Might be the killer.

Dude, you got the better end of that one. That's what I thought. I'm terrified. Anyway, Katie likes it.

Anyway, you had it. So I really liked the perfection. Watch it on Netflix one time. So I will talk about two things real quick.

They were both films that were given to me at Pop Rockin' Horror. The one is called Night of the Axe, which is a 22 minute short film made by a guy who's been pretty active on our Facebook page since Pop Rockin' Horror, Sean. So Sean, thank you for listening and being involved. So I'll be honest, I enjoyed it.

I didn't love it. But it's definitely something that was made with a lot of passion. And while the acting is a little rough, it's very clear that it's just him using local friends. But the gore, which is what you're there for for this 20 minute short, is really fucking good.

So you're saying we need to use him for a future HMM episode? Yeah, there's a scene where someone gets an axe in the head. And we've seen that before. But when the guy goes to pull the axe out of the head, the skin gives with the axe.

Yeah. I was like, oh shit. There was a couple moments like that where I was like, damn. So very good.

I'm excited to see what else Sean has, obviously, because I like where he's going right now, right out the gate with this. And then the other one that I watched, I have so many mixed feelings for it was called badass monster killer. Yeah, we saw that guy give us a copy. I saw that guy give us a copy.

Yeah. And it's very so I liked it a lot, but I don't know if I'd ever watched it again, but it was very like they went 100% into what they were doing. Like it's it's like Tokyo gore police. It was almost like, hear me out.

Tokyo gore police, if it was a Black exploitation cop movie and if all of the monster effects were done by stop motion clay nation creatures instead of like the hyper weird gore stuff. So it's just like it's so the whole movie shot on a green screen. It's very like obviously shot on a green screen and that's like a stylistic choice. Okay.

He'll shoot someone. It's kind of got like an Akira vibe, I guess, where like when someone gets injured, that's when their mutation begins. So like, oh, okay. Yeah.

So like he'll shoot someone and he'll like blow off a part of their body. And then all of a sudden it's all this stop motion clay nation that starts to take over like half of their body. And then you've got like a half man half clay nation creature that he's fighting. And it's really fucking cool looking.

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