Chris Hipkins: Labour leader on ferries, boot camps and whether he'll still be leader in 2025

Labour leader Chris Hipkins has spent a year in opposition now - holding the top job longer than many commentators expected he would.  Looking forward to 2025, Nick Mills asked Hipkins how Labour plans to grow its vote and what policy it plans on looking at. Also, what is likely to be in the government's new plan for the Interisland ferries, and why has Labour called for the government's boot camp trial to be shut down?  Hipkins joined Nick Mills for his final slot of 2025.  LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.