Christian Yelich, Pete Alonso’s Derby Pitcher Dave Jauss & Big Ben’s Diet

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On today's Part of My Take, we've got a twofer for the people. We have a baseball episode of Part of My Take. Christian Yelich, good friend of the program. He joins us.

We have a new bet with him, and we're very excited to have him on the show. We also have Pete Alonzo's pitcher from last night's Home Run Derby, Dave Jouse, and he is probably the most interesting baseball lifer there is. So we talked to him. Great storyteller.

Been in baseball for 40-plus years. Awesome interview with him. We also have Big Ben on a Diet, Billy's QB list, Hot Seat, Cool Throne, Tears, Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and Guys on Checks. Great Wednesday show.

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Go down to it right now in the App Store for when life throws you some curveballs. Money Lion is the app for you. Today is Wednesday, July 14th. And to cover our asses, holy shit, can you believe what Shohei Otani did in the All-Star game?

It's incredible. He struck out the side. Perfect game. Homer.

It's going to be a perfect inning. And then he hit back-to-back home runs. Yeah, so we're actually recording the show before the All-Star game because, yeah, we're doing it. We're just doing it.

And it was a great game. Shohei Otani was incredible. Joe Buck. We said it for sports when they matter.

Yeah. This one, we're going to let go. But we have a great baseball show for you. It was actually funny.

So today on Greeny, the radio show, which I'm sure you've already listened to, his producer said we went off on like a three-minute rant crying about how certain players aren't playing in the All-Star game. Yeah. And he just wants them to care as much about the game as to care as about the game. He doesn't have a car.

How are you listening to this? Oh, so I got a guy that clips up. God, I'm not. Yeah, because Jacob DeCrom really needs to be starting in the All-Star game.

That would be smart. The guy gets injured every like fourth day. But we have a huge baseball episode for you. Christian Yelch has a great interview.

And then Dave Jowes, who threw BP to Pete Alonzo, who we should have mentioned is the Home Run Derby champ. People are mad because the rules of the Home Run Derby are getting, people are getting cheated left and right in terms of when the last pitch is eligible. I think we're at a point now where we care too much about these rules. Well, the only reason I care about it is because they took what was quite literally the simplest competition, which is hit ball over fence.

Next person, you try to hit more balls over fence than the first person did. And then they put a clock in it. They added extra time based on stat cast. They started measuring like exit velocity.

No, hold on. Wait. Before you get extra time because of stat cast, I don't know if you noticed this, but it was three minutes. Then you get 30 seconds extra time just for being there.

That's three minutes and 30 seconds. And you get a timeout that you can incorporate anytime. Timeout should never be incorporated into the Home Run Derby. It's a very simple process, Big Cat.

You have a guy pitch you a ball and then you hit the ball over fence. You mash taters. It's the most American thing ever. And then you can smash more dongs in the next guy.

Then you get that giant bat trophy from Century 21 or whatever. And a car. And a truck. So, yeah.

And the ESPN broadcast made no sense. It was just graphics everywhere. All I wanted to see was taters get hit. I wanted to see kids get hurt, which one kid did.

Shout out to that kid. Hope you're okay. I want to see guys fall down. That also happened.

But that's it. You don't have to make something that is so simple. And so, like, it is the ultimate. We don't ask for a lot out of our sports.

But I feel like the Home Run Derby is something that... This is really, like, the feather in his cap. The pièce de résistance for Rob Manford. Be like, I fucked up the Home Run Derby.

No one thought I could do that. It's so simple. But, yeah. I mean, Pete Alonso was incredible.

And Dave Johnson was incredible. We have him on the show. I don't want to trash Pete Alonso. Because, again, we do have his pitcher on the show.

Great guy. All-time baseball guy. And I like Pete Alonso. But Nancy's coming back from colon cancer.

Can we just not let him win? He was fucking awesome last night. Yeah. I think, though, I think Pete Alonso was like, look, finals.

That's good enough. Yeah. For the cancer survivor. That's kind of like, hey, you know, there was a moment.

Now I've got to go beat you. Yeah, it's true. It's true. He wasn't going to turn it off.

But I think everybody at home was like, what a story would we have missed? Because it is. Like, coming back from colon cancer, it's fucking incredible what he's done. Yes, insane.

And Shohei Otani, though, like, come on. We all turned in for you. We all tuned in for you. And that was...

He was ripping doubles, and that's about it. I know he went to the extra time, but, like, come on, man. You have to get out of the first round for the people. Yeah, I mean, Juan Soto did hit that bomb 520 feet.

Yeah. So the over-under... You cashed it. The over-under on that...

Yeah, that was very clutch. Over-under was 519 and a half feet, which I think would be the longest home run hit in the last 20 years, like the stat caster. Why are you looking at me? Something like that.

I don't know. Because you knew the over-under. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew that, but I do not know how long the longest home run was.

Yeah, so that's how high the over-under was set. How long for some run when you hit the river in Pittsburgh? Yeah, that was 2016. Actually, the one against the Cardinals.

That one hasn't landed. Okay, so Juan Soto essentially hit the longest home run of the last five years and only beat the over by half a foot. Yes. And thank God I bet on it.

Thank God we got that. So way to go, Charlie Spambino, which is a great nickname. All right, what? How great would it have been if Castellanos had been playing?

Yeah. Is there something tragic that happened? It would have been so wonderful. The kid definitely would have gotten hurt during his event.

Yeah, there would have been an ambulance on the field. Has it ever happened where in the home run derby somebody hits a home run and while the ball's still in the air hasn't landed yet, they hit another one out? Yeah, that's the whole... Oh, the Josh Hamilton.

That happened there. Wait, that was a few years ago, too. That was the whole thing with Schwarber as well. They were saying that it was...

Because there's an ump there who watches the whole thing, which I love, love, love. The ump in the home run derby and the ref in the three-point contest. Just sitting there and whistling it. That guy, just male in city.

But I guess what I'm asking is, has there ever been a play that's hit a home run that went so high that his next pitch that he hit had actually landed before the first I don't know if that has happened, but I know that there was multiple. That was like a lot of things. Yes, yes. All right, so other stories.

We got Big Ben on a diet. One of the funniest, greatest stories out of training camp, Big Ben, is officially. Year 18 in the NFL, he is going to diet. I liken it to you after a long weekend of drinking and eating terrible food, and you say to yourself, you know what, I'm going to eat a salad on Monday, I'll maybe do 20 push-ups, wow, I'm back.

That's what Big Ben is doing as a career, where he spent 17 years eating P.F. Chang and doing whatever he wants, and then year 18, he's like, why is Tom Brady playing still? Oh, because he eats healthy? You know what, honey, get me a vegetable.

Let me try one of these things. I don't know if you saw the report, Big Cap, but the report was that he is doing the TB12 method, except the Ben Roethlisberger method is more strict than the TB12 method. So is it the Big Ben BB-7 or the BR-7? I think it's a BR-7 diet.

I think it's basically like no meat before breakfast. It's probably just not eating. He's probably going to see how long he can fast. He's going to get to about 10, 45 in the morning.

I want him very badly to come up with his own nutrition plan. It's like for every milkshake that you drink, you have to have a glass of water, or at least a CRMS. Did you see, so the report coming from this guy, Ryan Burr, who had one of the weirdest conversations with himself about Big Ben. I'm going to read you just a couple tweets, because they're very good.

He started, just his credentials real quick. I started covering Ben as a basketball player in high school. I was in Toledo, played wide receiver on a football team because coach's son was a QB. Ben Rothberg was QB senior, made most of it, covered him at Miami, Ohio.

That was first transformation day after drafted by the Steelers, sent me to his house for the interview. In Pittsburgh, saw Rothberger transform again into star QB. That didn't go well. I mean, he won a Super Bowl, whatever.

Motorcycle, booze, women. Okay. The women part is doing a lot of work. Yeah.

So then he's quote-treating himself, by the way, this whole thread. He doesn't know how to thread. He said, then he married, was forced to settle down. I'm sure Rothberger's wife would love that.

What happened? Yeah. Wait. I'm trying to put together that order chronologically.

So first it was motorcycles and women. No, no, no. Booze, women. Yes.

And then after that, it was, he gets married, and then he settles down afterwards. Right. After he gets married. Yeah.

Then he married, was forced to settle down. He's really overcome a lot of adversity. That's right. Okay, hold on.

But the narrative of beer-guzzling Lazy Ben never went away. Okay, then we get to, find me an athlete, and professional, I'm quoting this exactly, find me an athlete and professional sport that gets blamed for everything as much as Ben Rothberger. From source in Rothberger camp, he is tired of it. His ego is tired of it.

It's just Ben, right? This is the source in Rothberger camp. It's just, like, Ben goes upstairs and uses the landline. Yeah, you admitted at the beginning of this that you've been covering him since he was like 14 years old.

You know him well enough that he's just telling you this. Find me an athlete and professional sport that gets blamed for everything as much as Ben Rothberger. From source in Rothberger camp, he's tired of it. His ego is tired of it.

If Steelers don't run the ball, it's because Ben Rothberger only wants shotgun. If offensive line has trouble, Ben Rothberger holds the ball too long. If defense struggles, Ben Rothberger scores too quick. Listen, I have seen the total a-hole Ben.

I have seen the unprepared, out-of-shake Ben. I am told, for what it's worth, those former Ben's have been buried in a grave. Big Ben's spirals are so tight that defensive backs can't help but intercept them once they get their hands on them. They're so damn catchable.

I'm sick of him getting blamed for those. That's fucking hilarious. And also, good job, Ben. None of it is true.

Good job, Ben. Well, I do think the first three things that you mentioned could probably be true. It's like, yeah, Big Ben doesn't want to do anything but run out of shotgun. Yes, that's true.

Yeah, but also, Ben Rothberger does not get blamed more than any athlete in sports. That's just not true. I think he probably gets blamed more than any athlete on the Steelers in the last 10 years because he's the quarterback of the Steelers. And I don't even think that's true.

Because think about who they had. They had guys that everyone hated. No, it's still Ben. It's still Ben.

This isn't anti-Ben. This is just, this is like Ben going mega here where he's saying, listen, if you thought the injuries were not enough, well, here's also my ego has been bruised. Ben's being a little extra right now. He's being a little extra.

It's because he's starting to hear all the talk. It's about that time of year where people start to say, Ben Rothberger is the worst quarterback in his division again. Yeah. That's always a hot button topic that you can say.

And I just want it on the record for the billionth time. I like Ben Rothberger. I think he's fucking, first of all, he's funny. Second of all, I've always said that he's like, I would take him, maybe not now, but for the majority of his career, I said I'd take him over anyone in terms of a fourth quarter situation.

So Steelers fans that are going to get mad at us, Big Ben is funny to joke about. You have to be able to laugh at Big Ben. The fact that he was like, he did a documentary by himself that basically had a doctor saying they've never seen an injury quite like what Big Ben went through. And then after that documentary, he was like, you know what?

This isn't enough. I need to also have a report that I'm the most criticized athlete of all time. What the fuck are we talking about? He's got a diet.

Yeah, Big Ben the Martyr. It's the Martyr Diet, the BB7 method, which is just something green has to be in your refrigerator all times. That's the kind of diet guide that Big Ben is. We've all been in that situation where you just open up the door and you're like, okay, there's a salad in my refrigerator.

I'm currently on a diet. That's all. All you really need to do is skim milk. That's what Big Ben meant.

You know what? I'm going to skim and I will, every now and then I'll eat a carrot. But I won't like it, but I'll eat it. Skim milk and unflavored lube.

But seriously, this is the most relatable that Big Ben has ever been because he is that like choosing year 18 to start a diet. You've never seen a Ben like this. His metabolism can't work anymore. I'm a later 30s male.

I know what metabolism does to you. There's just no way you could be like, hey, you know what? At 36, I'm about, or 39, I think he is now, I'm about 36. I'm about to get in the best shape of my life.

Like, no, that's a fact that you will not. You can do everything you want, but you will not be in the best shape of your life. Do you think we'd be allowed to write his diet book, like the TV12 method, if we just did it on our own and sold it? I think people would buy it.

Yeah. And it's pretty easy. It's like, if you're going to Buffalo Wild Wings, get a diet Coke. Yeah.

If you're a Coke, still get the wings and the fries and everything. I honestly think just no meat before breakfast should pretty much settle all this weight. Yeah. The old classic, when you get a steak, instead of the fries, go rice pilaf.

Not a salad, not a side salad with rice pilaf. No Cajun fries. Just standard fries. Yeah.

You can ask for the Old Bay on the side and maybe sprinkle some on your own. Yes. I would say, like, if you're going to a seafood restaurant, only one deep fried item per dinner. It can be your main dish, but just don't get the deep fried clams and the deep fried pilaf.

Yeah. And the calamari. Well, calamari. Calamari is not.

That's not seafood. That's trash. No, no, no. It's not trash, but Ben can get it.

You know, I think things like maybe two mozzarella sticks instead of six. I would say never eat over half of any appetizer that's ordered at the table. You get up to 49%. 49%.

And I'm not talking about if it's you and your lovely bride who you truly enjoy being married to that you have to settle down for. When you go out to dinner with her, like, yeah, you can go 65, 70% all day. Yes. Because, like, you're a grown boy.

So you're Big Ben, you're an athlete, you need to recover. If you go out with a family and you've got, like, three kids around, limit yourself to 49. Oh, here's it. When you go to PF Chang's, because you go to PF Chang's every single week, maybe go with, not a pan-fried potstickers, do the boiled potstickers.

That's actually right there. I don't know. No, that would be down with self at all. Oh, here's all you have to do, Ben.

Just tell everybody that you bought an air fryer. It's so much healthier that way. You don't even have to do shit differently. Just be like, I got the air fryer, it changed my life.

I just hope Big Ben never retires. I really, truly don't. I'm going to be so sad when it happens, because I need these stories forever. He's the most criticized athlete I've ever seen in my life.

It's not even close. By far. Like, way more than LeBron James. Yeah.

I mean, it's just, it's the offensive line. No, it's actually Ben. He's more persecuted than Colin Kaepernick. He holds the ball too long.

Yeah. It's an absolute fact. That is very true. Like, the first two things that you read off were what?

He demands to have the ball run out of shotgun, because he's too lazy to move his feet. True. And then the second one was, would you just say a second? If O-line has trouble, Ben holds the ball too long.

Also true. Yeah. Those are just demonstrably true things. Yes.

Also, I just love that his ego is tired of it. That Ben got on the phone with this guy and was like, hey, listen, you know, listen, Ben can handle this, but Ben's ego is tired of it. You think Ben gets on the phone and he does, like, a different voice for his spokesperson? Yeah.

Hey, this is Jonathan from Ben's camp. He probably just uses his kids' names. Yeah. He can't think of anything.

All right. One other thing before we get hot sequels on USA Basketball sucks. ways to look at this well the most important one we need Lou Dorp I know he's Canadian shut up Coach K would never lose two games you'd absolutely never you guys rose from day in and day out he stopped being the USA coach they lose to Nigeria and Australia back to back coincidence is this all shaping up for LeBron James to come back and become the hero that America needs LeBron couldn't help this team but he refuses to play he's got the Monstars to worry about but isn't this the perfect scenario for LeBron to actually come back we're getting close to the point where we're begging LeBron James to play for Team USA well I don't even think it's LeBron you just need a fucking point guard and you need a roster that isn't all scores Ben Simmons Carmelo no that's not all scores it's also very funny that if you watch a little of the game it's actually what basketball should be because all the guys in the NBA are looking for all the fouls that they call in the NBA and they don't call them in like the world in the FIBA right so they're doing the jump into a guy they're doing the going up for a layup and throwing their head back and the rest are just letting them play and it's fucking awesome but the NBA players don't know what to do about it because all these guys they're used to getting those calls so I think that's one of the problems and also they just have a roster that's all scores every guy on that team like what do they do number one they score you need a you know what you need you need like Marcus Smart you know Bobby Portis you need some of these guys some grit and grind Charles Oakley Charles Oakley bring him back you need some guys that are going to get dirty with it Lou Dort get him to be American Grayson Allen Grayson Allen would be great you need some guys who don't care about getting shots they just want to box out and triple you don't think it has anything to do with a coach that isn't used to coaching the pros and he's used to coaching the college players and bringing players together and coaching them as a team you don't think that has anything to do with this the race coach of all time you know what would happen though thank god Coach K isn't coaching this team because he would have fucking coerced on the floor and I can't coach these guys that's a butterfly they never would have lost these games but if they did he would have are you dismissing Nigeria's accomplishments losing one game it's not an official sanctioned game losing once is fine that happens all the time losing two in a row thank you to the USA because they lost these games so the points rate will be a lot lower thank you Team USA also you're competing against Delhi who's one of the greatest international players his game was really designed to play at the Olympic level here's my goal you need guys there's no one else they can pick from but when you saw who's out there they're all stars on their team is Chris Paul going to play? no Chris Middleton I asked about that question today can you Giannis play?

we need Giannis Chris Middleton's going to play and I want to say Devin Booker which that's another score so I don't know maybe Drew Holliday's on the team as well we gotta blow this team up I think we have to blow it up already you know what they should do is they should just send they should send Baylor send the Baylor national championship team I thought you were going to say send AJ Titties nope have Rhodes go back to AJ Titties I'm going to suck a championship right into those guys nope that wasn't what I was going to say just get a point guard just get a point guard yeah you could get a point guard I guess have Lonzo go on that team and blow the whole team no oh oh play point guard for the team got it have we gotta get like the PMT stats count does he still do stats how many times has PMT mentioned AJ Titties you guys just have been you've been bonked crazy recently you bonked me 17 million times on Sunday for what? for everything I said you did the same to me as right? yeah but 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Musk and it's one of the worst visuals I've seen from any member of this podcast in a long time and I've seen some really bad visuals definitely one of the worst handshake visuals oh my god I asked him to watch it live and he's watching it live now what is this can you break it down yeah what happens is Jake goes in it looks like it looks like Musk goes in for the handshake and Jake just goes for a hug like buckle with a buckle like Jake's trying to put his belly button on Musk's belly alright so here's the problem so Musk gave him the shirt so Jake's like hey we're not doing a handshake because you have a shirt in your hand so I can't shake your hand he's got the shirt in his right hand he gives him the shirt then Musk gives him a little like thanks for coming out and Jake just like collapses in his arms to be held softly by Musk what is that so what happens is Jake it looks like he switches okay he's got it alright no Jake gets the shirt in his right hand and then quickly switches the shirt to his left so Jake's ready but Jake wanted to be held by yeah Musk so Jake like kind of reset to do a handshake and Musk just gave him like I'm gonna tap your shoulder and Jake just put his whole body on him he literally he's like let me just be little spoon for a minute one little second hold me and tell me everything's gonna be okay and then this is maybe the most relatable part about this whole thing after an awkward encounter or a missed handshake Jake takes three steps in the wrong direction realizes that he's going the wrong way has to turn around and walk back but he lets coach go in front of him so it's not that awkward like they're talking to each other after the weird handshake and Rico's carrying a huge big box because Jake can't hold it his alpha status might be in question and like I said Thursday we're playing ping pong this could all be what I need oh my god also the other funny thing I saw from this trip is that they're in the gym they're like with the team you know on scene and Jake's wearing a college shirt both days because he's a big J yeah he is this is a big trip for him right everyone else is wearing a t-shirt all the other guys just have t-shirts and shorts because you're in a basketball gym in Arkansas and Jake's still got the jeans casual big J but big J nonetheless the best part about this is I love Jake I truly do Jake when something like this happens he will be replaying it in his head for 24 hours like mumbling under his breath like I can't believe I didn't screw up that handshake I can't believe that I softly fell into muscle men's arms because I wanted to be held by him I can't believe that I kind of would have wished he'd kiss me on the top of the head I can't believe it like he'll just be saying that to himself constantly he can't get over these type of things so no one mentioned it Hank you're going to have to go in for a hug you can beat him no handshake hug yeah just pull it back if you're in Arkansas or Alabama right now as they're on the democracy tour as they're on the democracy tour if you see Jake instead of going up and giving him a handshake just give him a hug just hold him it's not your fault Jake it's not your fault damn that was awkward yeah anyway and my cool throne is tortoises so I don't know what event it looked like it was at the dog show but it wasn't the dog show but it looks similar to the dog show what tipped you off so that it wasn't the dog show well you know what I'm saying the venue of it I don't know why you guys are mocking me how else would you describe what that place looked like because there was a rabbit and there was a turtle but no dogs zero dogs but I'm trying to set the scene for the listeners describe what it looks like dog show no dogs that's exactly what it looks like which is you can't have a dog show with no dogs it's a convention again my point was to say I don't know why they had this tortoise and hare race because that's not something you just do for no reason and it's not something that people did you see the numbers on the video anyway back to my point is that they did whatever this fucking event was did a tortoise and hare race and the tortoise won the hare just stopped dead if they did it again that would have been on the hare like his first step was so fast I was like how did he lose this I mean you have to take the hare every time because I think if they did this race 99 times I think the hare wins 98 times that's how dumb we are that a story you learned when you're four years old we have not internalized definitely not a hot seat both Loki bangers this turtle is kind of a dog show dog show thing that's a fact the turtle is kind of a try hard I agree like what other event is this hat like seriously I really hope that it was a dog show and this was like half time of the dog show that would be so good vindication my hot seat is the entire PGA not because Brooks is about to be on a war path because he is and because a reporter called Bryson Brooks by mistake today which I'm sure was completely a mistake the guy sounded like he was from England or Ireland so I can't imagine he's up to speed on our trolling of Bryson DeChambeau but the real reason why PJ is on the hot seat and all other golfers besides Patrick Reed is that his wife has started tweeting from the burner it's been a while she's been offline for a while but she had to log on today and you tell me because it's still unconfirmed that this is his wife but I mean let's get real the handle is use golf facts all uppercase facts this is what we found when he got criticized for rules infraction he was tweeting about Rory and all that stuff wait but aren't tea times like Thursday you're late and then oh okay so she's saying late and then early the next day because they do flop like if you go late on Thursday you go early on Friday wow I'm not gonna lie I know that it's used golf facts but those are facts they are facts and like honestly it's relationship goals to have somebody that will defend you like Patrick Reed's wife defends him yeah they're trying to take down Patrick Reed via tea times that's pretty clear also check out Brooks we just have to say it a consummate pro he said that if he and Bryson are on the Ryder Cup team together they'll find a way to get along for a week he said I can find I'm pretty sure I can find a way to get along with just about anybody for a week bringing endorsement of their friendship I honestly think that Bryson is the last person that Brooks would want to hang out with for a week like literally the last person on earth so yeah that's my hot seat also shout out Patrick Reed's wife I just think that it's sweet that she's gorgeous because literally nobody else in the world will and then my that's a bong I didn't bong you that's a bong for saying I'm a fan of their loving relationship see I agree with you that bongs have gotten out of control but you also have gotten very horny I'm not horny at all I'm not horny nope maybe once you play today but not all day my cool throne is Terrell Pryor Terrell Pryor he's asking for the 2010 wins for Ohio State to be restored to the university which I guess makes sense looking back on it that was like the biggest nothing story that's maybe ever happened in college sports that had the biggest ramifications so Terrell Pryor got tattoos and then it basically took out Ohio State for a couple years Jim Trestle had to quit and he was known as the senator because he had like the squeaky clean image that he had going on and so yeah tattoos brought down Jim Trestle and Ohio State and now Terrell Pryor wants it back and honestly Terrell Pryor why not yeah it did lead to Urban Meyer and then Ryan Day so they can't be that upset overall but yeah I agree you should get it back right and I also respect on Terrell Pryor's part tastefully waiting for like a week after Reggie Bush was like hey give me my Heisman back knowing that everybody was like yes Reggie Bush is the person who deserves to be celebrated and then Terrell's like also just like tack my name on status if you guys alright my hot seat is quarterback rankings because Billy dropped his tier system and it's fire it's just fire go read it right now burn it there are a couple things of note in the Billy you can chime in wherever one did you know that Jared Goff is not Jared Geoff yeah that's the correct thing going that was an homage to PFT yes and then two I really liked what you did with the Saints situation you said that you couldn't find a picture of Jameis and Taysom so you just did a picture of Drew Brees instead and then you said whatever is happening at the Saints organization I put Jameis and Taysom on the same level I think Sean Payton is going to tank for a high draft pick Jameis' workout videos aren't helping does anyone think that Jameis Winston can actually yes he's a Hall Famer the one of one Jameis Winston guy came out all he does all day is name search and that's what he does he was DMing you don't think his workout videos are helping at all he made a three point shot with a football with his eyes closed you couldn't see in the first place no he can't now he's adapted he was literally born into the darkness you merely inherited it what is that if they share the same letter they're equal but separate tiers so like I have some of the tiers like two B's it's more of like some are rising stars while others are like fallen angels and they're eclipsing so the tiers don't matter or they do they do but they're separate so Billy just kind of took groups of quarterbacks that he thinks are similar in certain ways and put them together and then kind of stacked them up from best groups to worst groups well because guys with longer careers have more of an upside oh so he's an RG3 he just got signed by ESPN that was my break the glass in case of emergency and Deshaun Watson is J the last tier well what is it I didn't read it should probably read it okay hang on I'm going to read it right now the last year did you find out about I don't see anything about RG3 uncertain futures nice Billy Garoppolo, Locke, and Watson that's a tough break to have Garoppolo and Locke in the same group as Watson I just kind of want to sneak that one in there what about no Teddy Bridgewater you just handed a certain job to do Locke yeah honestly the program I was using to make these tiers didn't have some of the pictures the advanced software system yeah the advanced software system please get me a computer okay I'm looking more at it here the ugly ducklings you got Joe Burrow as an ugly duckling dude he had his teeth straight did you see the chompers no he's not ugly he's just like his hair is Their first seasons May have not been Considered beautiful But they can still Blossom into swans I thought Herbert Had a pretty beautiful Ricky or Denny Which kid is he on?

The ugly duckling Is that because of his haircut? Yeah, Justin Herbert Is definitely higher Than the ugly duckling I sort of did But like People can get mad at you For Ryan Tannehill There are a lot of Ryan Tannehill fans out there That aren't going to Appreciate you putting him In the Mets here With Ben Roethlisberger The most persecuted Quarterback in sports Ryan Fitzpatrick Matt Ryan Kirk Cousins And Derek Clark I did a little clickbait Thing here where I Purposely put the big Fanbase's beloved Franchise quarterbacks Into the meh category Ah, okay You basically invalidated Yourself as a blogger Correct, but the click Still count I like that you put Kirk Cousins All things considered Pretty close to hanging it up Yeah, yeah Alright, good job Billy, that was a good block Alright, my cool throne Is baseball having a Marketing problem Because of Shohei Otani This actually is a mark That Shohei Otani Has reached his highest level Because now the discussion Becomes are they Marketing him correct And is he marketable And then you saw Obviously Stephen A. Smith With a stupid fucking take But this is like We've had this conversation For a very long time With Mike Trout Why can't we market Mike Trout Maybe it's just baseball Yeah, maybe that's what it is They're both playing The small market of Los Angeles But it's just like We always have this conversation It's like why can't we market I think this one's a little bit different Because right now it's like Shohei Otani is the face of baseball There's no more discussion of Is Mike Trout the face of baseball Who's the face of baseball Even while Mike Trout was the face Or the gross chin of baseball We were all talking Who's the next face of baseball We're looking forward to Whether it was like Acuna or Sodor One of the younger guys One of the Slam Diego players We're looking for the next generation Of the face of baseball Now we have one Now I think it's like Set in stone that Shohei Otani Is the most electric player In baseball by far But my point is That baseball The way baseball used to be Is never coming back And that is like It's never going to be A national Everyone talking about it Like home run derby In the late 90s It's never going to be that Like it just isn't It's just not There's too many sports It's fragmented NFL has gotten bigger All these things So it's so stupid Because all I see is this conversation Of why can't they Why aren't we making a bigger deal With Shohei Otani Either you know about Shohei Otani being electric Because you follow baseball Even a little bit Or you don't follow baseball at all So then you just don't care Yeah I think that We are making exactly As big of a deal as we should About Shohei Otani That's what I'm saying But it's never going to be Like people want it to be Like they want it to be McGuire Sosa again We're never going back We've got to figure out A Colin Coward analogy for that It's like baseball Baseball thinks it's a Lamborghini Right But you know what Sometimes having a Toyota Camry New model All the bells and whistles Not bad It's going to last you For 300,000 miles Take it to and from Your next divorce hearing But that's all you need Out of a car Every time I see someone Be like hey Why aren't we making A bigger deal with Shohei Otani He's like we are He's incredible He's electric If you follow baseball In a little bit You know about him You think he's awesome You think he's incredible You want to watch his at-bats And then there's just Less people who follow baseball Than there were 30 years ago So that's just the reality of it It makes sense But also he's trying to fix Out the marking problem By doing what we all said That he should have done Which is get rid of The seven inning double headers And then also he's considering Banning the shift next year Which I think that'd be awesome Yes I should love the seven inning Double headers Yeah Wow I do I think double headers are cool There should be more double headers I respect That's the legacy of the game Yeah There should be more double headers Billy, hot seat, Cool Throne My hot seat is Rick Pitino Grease was eliminated from pool play In the Olympics Can you coach us? Can you honestly play for US?

The Olympics haven't started Well the FIBA pool play They're eliminated They can't play They're not going to be in the Olympics? No They're out there Rick Pitino's a great coach He is I think he could have It would have been hilarious If Grease beat the US Anthony Nossos That's what I was hoping No Slovenia's going to be us Luca Cool Throne Respect the cup people The Tampa Bay Lightning Vented the cup Pretty bad All the respect the cup people came out The trophy lovers Yeah respect the cup It gets like fucked every year Exactly The Stanley Cup is Without a doubt The most abused trophy in sports That's what makes it so wonderful The stories you can tell Yeah exactly Good talk Good job Billy Alright let's get to our interviews We have first up Christian Yelich And we got a word from our sponsor Before we get to Christian Yelich Yeah before we get to Christian Yelich Cross Country Mortgage If you're looking to buy a house You should be talking to the good folks Over at Cross Country Mortgage Much like us in Barstool They are a people first group of people They're dedicated to the fundamentals Of mortgage lending So you get a fast, convenient And less stressful home financing Or refinancing experience If you already own a home You can refinance right now Rates are unbelievably low Don't pay the bank more money than you need to And you figure it out So you can go to Cross Country Mortgage Check out the different types of rates That they have Check out what they can do for you In terms of special financing If you're already a homeowner And you haven't refinanced recently You might be leaving thousands If not tens of thousands Or it could be hundreds of thousands Of dollars on the table Over the lifetime of your loan That could be working for you In other places So check them out Rates are at all time lows They might not ever get this low again Call today Our friends at Cross Country Mortgage Are going to give you a free home valuation That's free to you Just for calling When you go to crosscountrymortgage.com Learn more about your future Home buying experience or refinancing Cross Country Mortgage LLC NMLS 3029 Okay we now welcome on A very good friend of ours It's been a while But it is Christian Yelich 2018 MVP No big deal He was not in the Home Run Derby Because he doesn't hit home runs anymore But he's still number one in our hearts Christian thank you for joining us So I was looking at it The first time you ever joined us On the show When the Home Run Derby bet was made Was 2017 All-Star Game in Miami After that point You were maybe the best baseball player In the world For like a year and a half So I'm hoping That you reclaim that magic And you're back to being The best baseball player in the world Yeah no it was an 18 All-Star Game in D.C. And yeah you were right Like literally the first No it was Miami No it was Miami In the second half of 17 And then all of 18 No it was the second half of 18 All of 19 Because that was the first We did it in the lobby Or like by the elevator in D.C. That was by the elevator in Miami though That was Miami No because I didn't make The All-Star Game in 17 I lost my wallet At the W on South Beach I lost all my shit on the beach So I know I wasn't with you guys It was like in the hallway Yeah it was It was in the hallway I thought that was Miami Okay so I stand very corrected But the point still stands That I get the PMT bump So let's actually start with that So this season Maybe not the best start for you But take me back Two months into the season May 23rd I feel like you need us To make another unreasonable bet Because you are a spiteful guy I like you but I actually Really hate you Because you've made my life Very stressful for the last Couple of Junes Thankfully this year Wasn't so much the case But there were some Legitimate conversations That we've had to have On this show about Eating each other's assholes And I don't know I feel like you kind of Thrive on that You like seeing us uncomfortable So is there I can let you make the call Do you want to put us In a bad situation again Give us something to bet on I mean you guys put yourselves In a bad situation You know you kind of Do that to yourselves If I recall correctly But you know what One of the biggest regrets I have so far in my career Is not being able to do That home run derby I want to do that so bad In 2019 And I actually kind of Got her practicing for it And I remember I remember texting with you And just being like Dude like I blew out Getting ready for it I don't think I'm going To be able to do it I'm sorry I know how much Everybody was looking forward To that Not only at Barstool But just like everybody That follows this show Or anybody that had Any kind of idea What was going on What was being said So still on about that And maybe we'll be able To do it one day Because it's a It's a career long event If I recall correctly You never said like Next home run derby You just said Ever win a home run derby It is And I remember When you texted me About your back And I think I put on The fakest Oh man I'm so sorry Like response of all time Where I was like Damn that really sucks Meemaw I'm like fuck yes Hopefully your back Never gets better But I remember Dave was all pissed too Because I think you guys Had everything set up Everyone was going to watch it And live stream And everything like that I was like dude I got to pull the shoot I got to cancel the back right now Yes so I do fully expect you To be in a home run derby At some point You will have to hit Some more home runs though So maybe we're running ourselves I'm going to have to play better I'm going to have to play better Like the actual games Before I can do a home run derby That'll happen again eventually I think so We'll make this happen I was talking to the guy yesterday That was supposed to throw to me In that derby He was just texting me Reaching out saying hello And I was like hey man We got to do this At some point before it's all said done We got at least seven more years left So at some point At some point We're going to get out there I hope Alright so we also have to talk about The clip that went semi-viral last week You got tagged out Making a slight move to second base And I've never seen you that bad You were very mad So well come on You made a little bit of a move I watched the video I think what made you mad Wasn't necessarily that you got called out Is the emphaticness With which the umpire called you out Like he punched you out He wound up for that He was really excited to make that call I think that's what rubbed you the wrong way It was a lot of I think that was the third game of the series It was just a lot of build up It wasn't just like that one instance You know what I mean But I don't really want to say too much on it Because I'm probably going to get fined To do some out for my on-field antics there Do you still get paid If you get kicked out of a game?

I think so I only get kicked out of a game twice But this one was definitely my My better one of the two You're going to get thrown out of the game I guess fully commit to get thrown out of the game It wasn't even like I didn't really realize It was like a full-blown blackout snap I don't really remember it I was shocked Yeah I was shocked So people always think I'm a super laid-back Happy-go-lucky guy But I'm kind of not There's times where I am But I'm pretty I get pretty fired about it sometimes People that play with me And know me in a baseball sense Know that's in there But in my day-to-day life I'm a pretty laid-back guy I kind of just chill But that's also like It's funny when everyone's like Oh man I thought he was so laid-back Well he's a professional athlete And he's really fucking good You have to have at least Some competitive streak in you What though You can't talk about What happened on the field But after Do you just go and take a shower And hang out Or do you go home Like what is it Is it fun to watch the game In the clubhouse by yourself Yeah so I did go home I think it was the sixth inning I made fifth or sixth inning Somewhere in the middle of the game My other ejection was at the bottom of the first So I actually had like The whole game to watch So this one was at least in the middle But counsel our manager He got thrown out right before that Like the inning before So he was already in the clubhouse At his desk And to get back to our locker And he got to walk down the hallway And it's past like the manager's office So he was sitting in there And I got walked by his office And I was like well shit Like what's up man Did you watch with him? No I didn't watch with him Because we were still losing the time And when I got thrown out Of my other game The manager also got thrown out with me Mattingly And I watched the whole game With him in his office And we ended up blowing like A five run lead And watching the implosion Of a five run lead with your manager While you both kicked out the game Was a pretty uncomfortable experience That's interesting So I was like Alright and we tied it up I was like oh I'm probably I'll say what's up to counts Now if we make a comeback And I'll watch it with him And as I was going to his office We gave up a homer And I turned around Went back to the training room And just like Our GM was working out In the weight room So I talked to him Kind of about like What happened and all that So I was just pretty much Hanging out in shorts And a t-shirt And called us all the time And that was that It's pretty uneventful I was calm again After I got thrown out Kind of just like walked back in Some of our pitchers Were in the locker room Talked to them a little bit And that was that You feel like you have All over the internet Everybody was texting me The rest of the night Kind of went everywhere Because it was a pretty good snap Yeah you walk around Like a badass Like you feel like Hey don't fuck with me I'm liable to just snap on somebody Not really Because it's not really It's not something that I do And the umpire We have the home plate umpire The next day So we went up there We kind of both had Like a pretty good laugh about it My first time back the next day He's like What's up Like how's it going man What up you He's like are we good I'm like yeah we're good Like you know shit happens My bad And then we just carried on It was fine But I think me and him Will probably have a pretty good relationship At least for my end Like the rest of my career So it's a good laugh And I don't know We'll see if he hates me Happened or your feelings Or anything like that You just kind of acknowledge Okay enough time has passed Where I'm not mad anymore It was like the Prototypical example of that Actually It was like hey Hey we good Yeah we're good Nobody even like addressed it Like no one's like No one's like my bad Or anything like that He's like we're good Yeah we're good Alright cool have a good one And then we play the game My favorite is when you're like Yeah you know like Two alpha males sometimes get together A lot of stuff gets said You know we butt heads sometimes And so it's a way you can like Apologize to another man But also make yourself seem Like the biggest alpha in the world Yeah where you're like Hey I'm sorry Yeah no no It's interesting though That the two times you got kicked out Your manager has also been kicked out Are you a little bit of a brown nose Are you like a teacher's pet The first time I got kicked out first And then like 30 seconds later Donnie was yelling at the umpire too And he got kicked out This time The council was arguing and calling I think it was during a pitching change And he got thrown out And then an inning later I got thrown out So at least this time Like my actions weren't the reason Why the manager got thrown out Which makes me feel a little bit better Yeah yeah Yeah so he got chucked earlier So I felt better about that one Alright so you know Your season ended up going As well as you'd like But you're going to turn it around The Brewers still are in first place I mean the Cubs are done So I don't even have like animosity I did have a question though That game two weeks ago When the Cubs were up 7-0 And the Brewers won 15-7 What the hell gets said in the Like when you come off the field After giving up a 7 spot In the first inning Are you guys all saying to each other Hey we're still in this But not really believing it And then you actually end up Winning the game by a lot Well like in that situation You're like well shit Like day game last day of the series Down 7-0 You're like well That wasn't a great start And you kind of come in And you still haven't hit yet though You know so there's 9 innings to play And you're like well Let's try and get like 1 or 2 here And like see if we can keep it interesting Chip away Never know what can happen Like you know like Hey we can't really let these guys Score too much more Because we're already chasing 7 So what everyone was saying Was like hey let's just try And get 1 up there Or 2 up there And see what happens And I think we did get 1 or 2 In the first And then we got a bunch back In the second Or maybe it was tied in the second And then yeah I've never seen a game like that In my career That whole series was pretty wild The things that happened in it Yeah I don't even really know How to describe that game Like you said It was insane Yeah I was listening on the radio And I was like 7-0 And I was like oh Cubs are back And then 2 seconds later It was 7-6 And then you guys put up 8 runs In the fourth inning It was like okay The season is pretty much over And that was kind of like The end of the Cubs season In terms of like Their losing streak And everything going poorly But I just It always is funny to me When you see a score like that And you're like It must be so weird To be in the clubhouse Or that or the dugout It's like a softball game broke out Where it's just everything is working And everyone's scoring And innings are lasting like an hour long Yeah I mean it was like 2 and a half hours And we're in the third inning We're ever so like well If we're gonna play a 7 hour game We might as well win Everyone's trying Yeah it just went wild How many games per year Do you actually get down about a loss Because there's so many games that are played Like you can't take every loss Super competitively right Or are there some guys That actually do hate losing that much Even over the course of a long season it really affects them i mean different losses definitely definitely hurt more like that game if it kept going south and you lose by you lose by 15 you're just like well that was a shitty day but it's a baseball season like it's gonna happen you know you're gonna get blown out a couple times a year you're gonna be playing really good teams but games where you're up like three to two in the eighth inning or three two in the ninth and you end up losing a tough one to somebody in the division like that game definitely hurts a lot more than the one that was just like well that was just a shit show what are you gonna do like with him tomorrow so they have varying degrees if you have losing streaks or just the time in the year when you lose like they can hurt a little bit for sure i mean even though baseball's a uh a game where you're guaranteed to basically at least 60 games a year you know even if you're the best team in the game so yeah what happens on a long losing streak are there guys like let's say so i think the cubs lost like 10 10 in a row 10 11 whatever it was i'm sure maybe in the marlins you were on a team that had some of those losing streaks are there moments where different guys like maybe seven games in a guy tries to give a rah-rah speech and it doesn't work it's like well fuck what do we do now like how does that how does that play out when you're deep in a losing streak yeah i mean there's like i think the most we lost in the marlins i think it was 13 maybe it's when uh it's when our manager got fired and the gm of the team became the manager i don't know if you remember that time so yeah we lost 13 in a row i think right after that happened and uh there's different phases of it like the first time you lose like five or six like oh man like shit like everybody's like all right we gotta turn this around it's getting it's going south like we need it and it's like seven eight nine ten and it's like what the fuck dude and it's just you seem like you find a different way to lose every night like it's impossible to win like you said you're up by seven and you lose or you're winning by like one or two and somebody gets like a you got a basis loaded two outs and someone's bat shatters and the game-winning run scores on that play and you're like we just really just cannot win and sometimes it feels that way and one day it turns and you can rattle off seven or eight that's just why baseball season so many there's so many ups and downs in it you know where there's times in the season where it feels like you're never gonna lose again and you're on 10 game winning streak and you cannot lose like no matter what you do you can't lose and then you go through a week where you cannot win it doesn't matter who you're playing you could have you know the best pitchers in baseball going for you playing against the worst team in the game and you just can't win because baseball's a free game sometimes and weird stuff happens so guys try everything there's pump-up speeches there's guys are doing crazy things trying crazy things uh anything to just try and break the streak and to win but if you're gonna give a pump-up speech the word of advice is to like always wait till like your ace is pitching that night or you got like the best the best chance to win or you're not going against the other team's pace yeah you gotta say you gotta have some feel with your speech because if you go out there and you're like i don't know you're facing like kershaw or something that night you're on like a seven game losing streak like guys today's today we turn it around and he goes like hey shetty with 14ks or something like that and you're like oh god no it didn't work yeah yeah way worse situation than you had going tonight um i want to talk to you real quick about the bucks because uh you kind of got i don't want to say overshadowed but it seems like david baktiari has a new favorite beer chugging buddy and that's dana beers uh have you been invited back to the playoffs have you been invited to a bucks game this postseason to show off your drinking skills yeah our schedule just hasn't really lined up for it we've been out of town we've been playing at the same time um they're playing right now it's also breaks on that in town i was texting dbock about he's asking if i was gonna go to the game or not what we really need to see is a dan vogelbach boxyari chug off i think i think that would be i've seen i've seen bogey hammer a beer before because i just wanted to see how fast he could chug it and i'm not gonna lie he's gonna give dbock a run for his money i'm not saying he'd win because i respect dbock's abilities i've seen it up close as well pretty impressive stuff but i think the state of state of wisconsin and beer chugging fans alike would really we really need to see it we need to settle that one of these days i was hoping we can make that happen i think i'm not sure game six lines up we'll make it to game six i think we may be able to go or not you guys have a game game six at home maybe they'll move it i don't know that would be electric though is it a game day game night game tuesday night they have to move that they would have to move that the only thing i would tell you is next time can you can you make sure that the beer is topped off well so what happened with that was i didn't know i didn't know i was just drinking a beer you know and so i didn't really know i was gonna chug it and and dbock like elbowed me because hey bro you're up in like five seconds and so i'd already had like three quarters of a beer maybe it was even half i was like what do you mean because i was i was on the i was on the aisle at the time so i wasn't really playing and i don't know if it's like the greatest look right now i'm not i'm not playing and i'm hammering beers at the bucks game our gm everybody was there and then i was on the screen and kind of played it off as like i was meant to do that the entire time kind of gave it the stand up and the walk around i didn't even know if i could chug it honestly because i hadn't chugged a beer in a really long time but i saw what happened with with aaron and i was like dude i gotta i gotta finish this thing and there's a moment of panic there when it's tilted back you can see me like there's like a i don't know if this is gonna happen here and we powered through it and that's where the victory celebration kind of came in dbock's all fired up going wild and i wouldn't i wouldn't give myself an a for the chug by any means like it wasn't it wasn't impressive but we got the job done and that's kind of half the battle you know just so perfect so wisconsin that this is like a thing at bucks games and it's like everyone is just like this is fucking awesome all of our sports every player who plays in a wisconsin you know sport has to come and chug a beer as fast as they can right it's just what you got to do it it makes for a great environment too it's an awesome place to watch a game like really any of the sports teams wisconsin it's a cool atmosphere no matter where you go watch the game but uh yeah the sports playoff games are electric yeah all right we gotta we gotta ask you this because we need headline what do you think about the whole spider attack stuff have you noticed that a difference in the pitches you're seeing since the ban has been enacted uh maybe a little bit i mean i know i know it was fairly fairly prevalent but it's one of those things like nobody was really doing anything about it and then all of a sudden out of nowhere it kind of just became a big deal i felt like it kind of happened overnight but yeah it's definitely one of those things where there was some nights where you could like you could hear the it sound like velcro coming off guys guys figures when they're especially in the the 2020 season where uh there was no fans it was a lot quieter in the stadiums but i mean guys are so good that i feel like they don't really need it like they've kind of shown like hey you guys are still really good they can still spend the baseball i'm not a pitcher so i don't really know how big of a difference it really makes it's hard to tell from the batter's box i'll be honest like i still think guys are pretty nasty maybe that's because i'm not playing very well so baseball looks like an aspirin coming up there but uh yeah it was just one of those things that just gained a lot of traction out of nowhere i felt like i think everybody in the game kind of just new guys are using stuff to get a grip but non-pitchers like myself i don't know if i really know how big of a difference it does or doesn't make yes you guys are still pitching well you know like all the best pitchers in the game are still pretty much doing the best in the game even after the even after the ban so i think it was one of those things where everybody thought there's gonna get this massive difference or like these guys are gonna sink all of a sudden and that just wasn't really the case i don't know what you guys think about it but that's kind of from my perspective right i think it's kind of weird the timing that baseball had to do it in the middle of the season like not even over an all-star break they just like decided one day okay now the rules are gonna take effect and then you had managers that i guess you just get to call out the opposing pitcher whenever you want i don't know how that works yeah i mean i think we saw that happened the one time i think right like the phillies nats game but that hasn't happened in any of the brewers games or anything like that like it's been pretty standard the umpire checks the pitchers glove and and hat and we're on their way and it's like it's like a three-second check so i feel like if your manager requests the check and they find out that the pitcher's clean the manager should have to step into the box and take another bat i mean yeah it's pretty bad if you don't you better have pretty good pretty good idea that there's guys going something or using something you're gonna you're gonna call them out i wish you know i wish i wish normal people could take that pass yeah you know i think it'd be pretty cool i don't there's no way that it actually would be able to happen or anything like that maybe like by bps in spring training i think it'd be cool though like just to give people perspective on like baseball and like hitting or anything i honestly think if i if i stood in the box against jacob de grom and he threw a thousand pitches i don't think i'd make contact more than once maybe luckily it sounds it sounds extreme but i really i really think you're right yeah like i'd get lucky maybe a couple times but that would be pure luck there would never be a time where i would swing being like i'm about to hit this yeah i mean i think no joke i think like there's a chance that you can maybe like foul tip one right but like if there was like an actual defense out there like getting a hit like there's no there's no chance actually if you go over it out yeah it'd be crazy i also think that you would just get exhausted swinging about a thousand times so if you could do like one at bat per day yeah for a thousand days in a row i feel like one of those you can get a thousand yeah because eventually like you have a better chance you have a better chance of a thousand at-bats in a single day of foul tip in a ball if you did one at back for a thousand days i would say zero yeah because like eventually you'd just be standing there and you'd just be pure guessing on time right okay like you'd be able to like get the bat in the way of the ball at least like one time i feel like right yeah i know where he where he is in his wind up now's the time i gotta start swinging and hope that i guess right yeah but the thing with him is like his ball goes like this guy like it feels like it's going like that and then yeah i mean it's 95 on our sliders and they look like fastballs until you go swing up and they're not so it'd be an awesome experience like i don't know how that would ever happen like for people just to be able to to see that and i know there's those websites like on twitter and instagram so i think they're like pitching into things like i overlay the two balls the fastball and slider and and just like people that think hitting and stuff is easy like it's kind of funny when you guys like face like hate or something you know there's a guy on third less than two outs like we'll just make contact and get the guy in right you guys are on 100 from like behind you and the balls are rising and you don't know where it's going to be and it should be not fast on the flip side what always amazes me is like when a guy like or all the chat who's had struggles this year because his movement is just not the same and it's crazy to me that like a guy who throws 100 but he has no movement everyone crushes him because it like eliminates that one variable and now everyone in mlb even though it's 100 miles an hour if it's straight and doesn't move you guys can all fucking like smash on that yeah i mean a lot of it's just like location i think pitchers go in slumps too you know where they're not really hitting their spots as well as they usually do or just freak things happen to them too you know they hit a guy a broken bat single and then a homer there's three earned runs right there before like anything happen so pitchers go through slumps too but yeah a lot of it's just like location based and all the best pitchers in the game are the guys that you know throw really hard with that velocity and then can locate it really well and like i'm gonna be like facing chapman as a left-handed hitter is not a great time either i'm not a lot right you're not like stoked to go up there by any means so so let me ask you this then because kyle hendrix obviously i love kyle hendrix like you face him a bunch he doesn't throw faster than 88 tops but he just all location like how much does that fuck with you yeah well you go you go for a thousand against him too yeah oh yeah 87 88 just because like he's i enjoy facing him because i don't do well against him either like i don't i wouldn't say like i crush him we've had a lot of battles over the years just because we're in the same division and face each other all the time but yeah he's got three different fastballs and three different change-ups and a curveball and he locates it moves the ball around really well and throws any pitch in any count uh and so i don't think people appreciate that either like the art of pitching like the way he does it with because he throws he throws forcing fastball that kind of cuts a little bit a two-seam fastball he throws forcing fastball on top of the zone he has a two-seam change-up uh change-up that cuts a little bit and then a straight change-up that looks like a four-seam fastball it's not and then his curveball is pretty good too it's just it's not what he's really known for you know he's known for fastball change-up he can front dory with two seamers back dory with cutters fastball so he's just moving it everywhere you know and all this he can make all these pitches look the same and people don't understand that either like oh he's thrown 87 like how can you not hit that you know it's like oh dude you just think you have no idea right it looks it could be it could be 82 and you don't know the difference between the two right you don't you really don't like they all look the same coming out of his hand it's impressive too like and one of them just never gets there you know they're the same pitch and one of them's 10 miles an hour slower and it just never gets there he's had all the success he's had in the game you know for a reason is there a certain pitcher who's like if you were pick one pitch from an individual pitcher for a person like us to step into the batter's box and you get one crack at it what is the nastiest pitch oof the guy with the nastiest pitch i mean there's a lot of guys with electric fastballs like i don't know who i who i mean i think the grom's probably the guy that is like it's pretty impressive like they're not facing a lot too when i was in the nle's and that was before he's only 102 he's only throwing 96 only 96 at the time but uh give some appreciation there i think hater our our closer um just like you can watch on tv or video like certain guys fastballs look different like there's different 98s some of them feel light and they don't feel as hard as it says and there's other guys stuff that it'll say like 95 and you're like dude i could swear that's i swear that's 110 is that like a rising action on it with the balls yeah the rising force mean like the perception the way they throw it like sometimes like dude it's like you don't see certain guys as well like i might see a guy better than you see a guy and he could be really good or be not as good and we both have different opinions on like that's why it's just a fascinating game yeah i mean fastballs it is always fascinating to me how much like two miles an hour or just like i was saying with chapman like when he doesn't have movement on his fastball it could be 100 but it's not the same like the i've always heard like you know guys whose fastball seems to get faster like at the end you know i mean like it pops is that something that's real well so like people understand that now like a few years ago you wouldn't really know why a ball got on you like that right now and now it's because they have ways of telling like extension like how far down the mound he is when he lets go the ball like guys that let it go closer to home play obviously the fastball plays better um to release like some guys release the ball higher or lower and guys have the lower release the ball seem to like take off a little bit more like load low releases and like hike above the ground when they release the ball and then that's where that that's where the fire technique came in was in the rpms on guys fastballs like the higher the rpms the more life and rise you get to it and that's kind of where people were pointing to where they became kind of a problem in the game and so if you had a guy combine all three of those things then it's a tough baby to say the least yeah if you want to if you want to sound really smart to your friends at home just say hey you know a rising fastball doesn't actually rise it just doesn't drop as fast as you think it's going to drop exactly yeah people forget that just hold the plane better yeah yeah all right what about um what about knuckleball could i step into into the batter's box against knuckleball and take a thousand swings and hit one uh maybe just because the velocity is not as the velocity is not as hard and sometimes they don't do anything right you know like sometimes a knuckleball just literally just kind of flows in there if someone ripped off a good one then no like guys they maybe guys look stupid on a really good knuckleball they're hard to even catch let alone hit yeah uh if they catch them pretty good like guys have a good knuckleball you don't want to play catching them because you actually might get hit in the face if they catch it right it's like no thanks i'm good on that but there's not really there's not really too many knuckleballers left in the game i think ra was one you can't you can't throw a knuckleball no spin if you got all that stuff on it exactly yeah you guys ever tried that you ever got like a can of that stuff right here yeah right there how sticky is that though it's incredibly sticky doesn't help my typing that was nice by you by the way that was a really smart move to be like i've never seen a can of that yeah yeah never in the brewer's dugout no no my beer was just accidentally half drank yeah yeah no i've never seen what is that spider attack stuff you got yeah never seen it oh all right i got one last question use pft on roback.com for 20 off your first purchase r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com code pft make the best performance polls the only performance polls we wear uh we're gonna send you one christian we send everyone our uh roback performance cue zips when they come on the show uh this is a maybe somebody say this is a mean question i don't think it's that mean but you know you haven't been great this year so uh is it weird sometimes like for division rivals like if you haven't gotten hit against the team to be like hey oh i just gotta hit my first hit against the cubs in the middle of july do i go do i stand on first base and be like hey rizzo how was the offseason it good i love talking to rizzo first base we always have some good conversations over there about who knows what just kind what's going on or how we're both doing at the time yeah we laugh at each other about how hard baseball is sometimes yeah he's a great guy man i love i love talking over there um i really like i mean i know it's a rivalry but i really like all those guys over there they're uh they're good dude they've had some passionate games over the years but um i don't believe you i don't believe you with wilson contraris it feels like every i have a theory actually here's my last question i have a theory that it's just if you're a good catcher you should be hated by the other team like the catcher position is is somehow always the most hated guy on each team really i feel like that's the case because i don't know i mean i've always had good conversations with wilson you know you gotta play i would say hello i'm gonna play for a long time obviously respect him he's beaten us a few times on his own he's literally had a few walk up against us i think so um super talented there's always going to be that rivalry when you play each other so much but you gotta you gotta respect like how talented people are in the way they play the game there's obviously um a lot of those guys on the cubs are very talented and um we've had some good fun battles and we've come out on top of some they've come out on the top of some and like i said who knows what's gonna happen here in the next few months but um you know riz kb hobby wilson like that core over there we've had a good run against them and i've always enjoyed playing against you know it's a rivalry and the two fan bases don't really get along i think that the players do we've had a couple dusts we've had a couple benches there's never been any there's never been any five just like the occasional occasional shouting across the way each other will you sprint to first base on your next walk for us patrick wisdom uh said what i don't know if you ever did he kind of you like jogged lightly yeah it's my favorite move in baseball please just a full sprint yeah yeah just a sprint a breakdown at first base yeah just run for sure don't turn towards second at home yeah don't turn towards second you know it gets heated after that happens you know i don't i don't love that you did the hips moved i watched it like this time before this interview but i didn't move my shoulders or anything like i didn't attempt to there was no way i actually went to second there was a shimmy there was a shimmy like in basketball you guard the guy's hip you guard the guy's belly button because you can't go anywhere without it your your torso moved my belly button was looking right at the headlock staring down staring it down so how are you gonna know by how are you gonna know by sprint on the walk though i feel like you're not walking on every bruise game i'm not there'll be highlights people will say like oh he's right on the walk and then we can we can be like yeah he respects 90 then we'll put this clip that should also be it's gonna be sports in a top 10 play just the hustle that you would show that's fair okay you know you gotta do something every night you know to contribute to a win and so i haven't really been i haven't really been getting big hit lately so i can hustle i can get hard 90s yes exactly you know just set the tone set the tone do the little things right and big things come that's what they say right yeah little things add up to big things in the long run and i'm watching this replay again your belly button moved your belly button listen the conversation first base kind of went like this and then it escalated a little bit and i got thrown out you're the belly button baseball yeah i would call it the same exact way i would call it the same we play too many games right you know things were heated patents were high guys being dudes you said you know and then one play to another one of us i believe the game all right well you're out of here yeah good luck for the rest of the season now that the cubs are in full rebuild rebuild mode again um i i wish you personal success i hope you have a great second half it would be great if you just rattled off an incredible second half it's just you have to come on the show to to find your magic i'm serious i have another great second half but this is going to be a yearly thing for the rest of my career on all-star right for coming on pmt and just getting the bomb maybe a little your salary goes to us well it depends you know it depends if it works or not okay what does work mean if you hit 20 home runs in the second half yeah sure so we get a little your 20 home runs in the second half we get a little your 25 percent of your salary for every home run you hit we get that no let's say if if you hit 20 home runs in the second half you give this podcast fifteen thousand dollars 20 home runs in the second half yes what do we get what do we spend it what do we spend it no no no no we'll go to uh we'll come out we'll do where you live in the offseason california right okay perfect so if you hit 20 home runs then we'll come like stay we'll do like a weekend where you like you know put us up at a five-star resort we all hang out play wiffle ball and you take us out to dinners and shit and just like on christian shoes new shoes matching outfits so it doesn't have to be cash you have to spend it on you remember brewster's millions the uh the movie you have you have to spend 15 000 on us in a weekend all right i like that okay yeah just a guy's trip i was gonna say we take 15 grand we reinvest it and we bet on christian yellow to hit another home run in the playoffs and then if that hits then guess what i can't be a part of it you'll spend it on us 20 000 let's say 20 come on 20 for 20 20 20 fine how about 20 home runs a lot of home runs i think i think yeah my mvp hat was like 25 or something right all right so this is good 20 for 20 if you hit 20 home runs we'll do a brewster's millions but it's 20 000 weekend where christian just spends it on us and we just go and fucking ball out yeah we'll do something fun guys weekend yes i love this if you want to bump it up to 100 000 this is when we always negotiate ourselves out of something yeah we should think about it think about the 100 000 we'll think about it all right 20 home run watch starts today i fucking love this love it all right thanks man appreciate it you guys good talking to you all right christian else was brought to you by raycon great friends over at raycon we love their earbuds whether it's for work or play a lot of us are gonna be on the move this summer so my advice to you is take your raycons with you whether you're at a ballgame whether you're on your commute a pair of raycon's wireless earbuds in your ear can make all the difference they look great and they feel even better they come in a range of cool colors and they have customizable gel tips included for a comfortable in-ear fit raycons are built to go wherever you go with quick and seamless bluetooth pairing and a compact charging case we love raycons they fit in your ears perfectly i like to wear them if i'm on a city bike bike around town they don't fall out i'm at the gym not to brag working out i like to put the raycons in they stay in there they're comfortable they sound great listen up raycons offering 15 off all their products for my listeners 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than i do on a normal bp day so i'm ready to do that all the time how did you find out that you were really really good at throwing batting practice was it because as a pitcher you got hit a lot or did you just get into his own actually i didn't i was i was an infielder only played in college um but i had to when i started my managing career which was a lot earlier than most players um because it was it wasn't because i was hurt it wasn't because i was wasn't looked at as a college player we had eight guys signed contracts in the college i was at my senior year so they were looked at and wasn't i didn't have good coaching because my high school coach is in the illinois high school hall of fame my college coach is in the college baseball hall of fame so i have good coaching it was complete lack of talent that i had to go into coaching and managing and so i had to i was the only coach and head coach and manager on my team both canadian professional baseball college baseball and so i had to throw it up every player and i also had to catch bullpens and all that so i had to throw right away and i knew i could throw and make them a lot better hitters than i was because i wanted them to have a chance to be confident and it started back in 1980 and i've been able to do it in some years i throw every day of the year wow and you it was it was incredible uh your location you did hit him once you hit pete once did you was that a brushback was that like a hey just so you know i'm still the boss out here no and actually when i when i throw it our youngest son who's my media director right this moment he got this computer set up and everything um as a pitcher he drilled a lot of guys he was a really good pitcher but he drilled a lot of guys and so as i hit alonzo the ball's up on my hand i said wow i'm like my son because i drilled him it was the first guy i ever drilled and then also i said in 95 when oftentimes i threw to cal jr when he was breaking the consecutive streak i used to throw him i said i never hit cal how can i hit this guy it was the first guy i never hit in my life and so i was not a drill back it was a slip ball and i couldn't believe pete laughed about it the next ball he yanked out of there so it was kind of funny actually i got i got a message from our trainer last night the mess trainer brian chickalow great man left me a message but congratulations fun to watch it by the way we wonder if we're gonna have to put pete on the uh on the eye on when he comes back it was great it was a great moment i also i noticed you weren't wearing a hat and i feel like you were more locked in than anyone else because of the lack of hat was that do you you never wear a hat when you throw bp you you seem so much more focused than everyone else and i swear it was partially because of that i never wear hats on bp i always take it off um i always try to take these these glasses off um but i i never wear a hat i don't have any chance of having any hair ever in my eyes so it's okay i take a lot of money on on uh hair dryers and shampoo in my life so uh yeah so maybe that's that's it but dr bachette as a hitting coach never wore a hat but that's because he's got a beautiful looking face i got a face for so i'm good on that i read that you one time threw a hundred inning game in college one college i was at was atlantic christian college in wilson north carolina it's now called barton and for a fundraiser we threw a hundred any game and i threw to both teams now we did start to count one two you know a one two count so there's plenty of times it was a two pitch um to the hitters but they played we played both teams had the captain um the captain was the manager one team the other captain was the manager the other team was a really good fundraiser and uh i threw that and then dragged the field afterwards because of course you're the only coach and you're also the groundskeeper you're also my first my first college job was at westfield state college in like 1982 i was a head coach the youngest coach in the nation i make fifteen hundred dollars a year and my budget was fifteen hundred dollars graduate graduate of amherst college i had a master's degree from umass sport management department and yet i was making fifteen hundred dollars a year for my for my for my job my grandfather always asked me he said hey when are you gonna get a real job yeah you got great so i want to mention your college because i saw a quote uh that was issued out last night you said in 1991 40 percent of amherst grads are lawyers 40 percent are doctors 15 percent go into some kind of business the other five percent are idiots like me enjoying what they're doing now my question is does that also apply to williams college next door oh no doubt no doubt but don't let them don't let them be haughty-haughty say that they don't do it no and all those ninety five hundred percent guys that graduate and now girls when i started was not co-ed but now girls they always call me and want to know what i'm doing or the other five percent at williams and i never call them other than to say hi and stuff like that but i never ask them what they're doing at some you know high tech company or in the in the medical room diving into somebody's bladder or clean or something like that so i i ask because uh sitting in this room right now uh who he was our intern but he's now full-time uh is someone who might have graduated from williams and he would be in the five percent of idiots but guess what he's got a great job so i feel like you guys are kindred spirits in that respect we are he's an f-man how are you an f-man he's f-man it's only f-man and i was i would say until they changed it i was a lord jeff and they found out that the lord jeff had a bad history so now they're like a man i would go back to chicago after after going to amherst my first year and all my buddies in chicago today so so what's your nickname i think the bob gaff that's funny because i saw that quote and i thought like that's a great quote because our guy billy here wrestled with the like hey should i go get a job where i'm you know a doctor or lawyer or maybe you know try out being a five percent idiot and have a good time yeah i'm glad you are doing it and guess what i have we have three sons my wife and i have three sons they are much more brilliant than i am uh my wife is much smarter than i am she's written two books and uh but all three of our boys are in the game uh one's a scout with san francisco giants actually lives in wrigleyville he lives uh he does the midwest states um for the giants he's an amateur scout the middle one lives in scottsdale he's a mental skills coach for the diamondbacks always say he had he's 28 years old he's had 28 years of learning what not to do mentally like i do and then our youngest is just taking a uh coaching position at boston college he's a he's a pitching coach graduated from nyu and uh he's he's my media director today you're actually the perfect person to ask this question we brought it up on the last show i don't think we had a good answer for it though at what point uh do you switch from being a baseball coach to a baseball manager because i'm pretty sure in college you're still a baseball coach right yeah yeah you're a head coach in college and even my my first managing job in 1980 when i went up to uh new uh to woodstock new brunswick in the canadian senior league um i was still a head coach because that was it's like if you go to a semi-pro team or a professional team in like germany or italy or australia that's not part of um the baseball affiliate you know the professional baseball affiliate you're a head coach but in professional baseball you're a manager you're probably a manager and that's reason you're a bench coach rather than an assistant head coach or something like that it's terminology there's also a reason why we wear uniforms on the bench where in every sport they wear you know pullovers or they used to wear suits so bench coach in baseball i think is like the coolest job because you can you explain to me exactly what your day-to-day as a bench coach looks like because i always look at it and i'm like he gets to sit next to the manager he gets to maybe give him a little input the manager can take it or not he gets to hang out with the guys it seems like a pretty good life so what am i missing here is it just it's a pretty fun existence correct i believe that everything in baseball has been a fun existence and i did have some years with the uh with the pittsburgh pirates and we always like to say that willy chargill one of his favorite quotes was they don't say work ball to start the game of baseball they say play ball and and so i've been able to play for 46 years and 45 years of my uh of my working life and a bunch of them have been the bench coach you're you're whatever the manager needs whatever his strengths are you complement those strengths but you really work on what his weakness is because everybody has a weakness so if they're a really good relationship guy and not a good numbers guy you take care of the numbers or i've been a manager who was a really good numbers guy but didn't want to admit it to any of the players because it wasn't that time that was good to be a good numbers guy so i was a guy that was a numbers guy the numbers geek and he could be the relationship guy and the hunch guy it wasn't a hunch he had numbers going through his head all the time um and you do a lot of scheduling you're really that go between so that you try to deflect some of the stuff that the manager on the manager's plate so he doesn't have to take care of it but these days a lot of coaches do that you know when i first started it really was the bench coach and then when i first started the ex-bench coaches were the guys that were the guys that kept the manager out of getting in trouble after the game be it yelling at media be it yelling at players or being going out a little bit too much right i like that yeah and can you tell when you have a manager that's about to get ejected from the game like when he gets to the ballpark that day you know that he's on one and he's looking to get tossed rarely have i ever had a manager that i knew was gonna get tossed before but often before the inning started or you you never were surprised unless the umpire made a bad ejection because you can hear it coming and there are times that you knew that hey imagine you know this would really help the club this time if there was a really good opportunity take the uh take the uh the burden on you and managers do a great job at this take a burden on you now i can't say that when i did imagine in winter ball in the minor leagues you know i was kind of a kind of an idiot as a manager because i've never gotten thrown out as a bench coach but i got thrown out of 18 out of 60 games in 1999 in in dominican winter league that's a lot of your record very impressive i actually heard that you got banned from the dominican league for two years yeah yeah i did one time they said i was unprofessional wearing shorts um coming out after being ejected coming out onto the dugout and i accosted one of the umpires which was they fabricated the story of course one week later jose offerman took over my job and he punched the guy out which was also fabricated because the punch the punch never connected the umpires just fell to the ground he took a dive he should have tried to take a punch but so you were just getting kicked out of every game then you just got kicked out of the league yeah that happened it's a glorified dress code violation though you were in shorts and they got mad because you came out there and you were showing some game and you're gonna send this guy home well mojus alu was the general manager for escajito at that time and for some reason our best hitter timo perez was hit 10 straight times and i heard it like some of the pitchers would get some sort of extra bonus when that happened and so the 10th time it happened i complained to the umpire and he kicked me out i didn't ask our guys to drill anybody so uh so now all of a sudden in the 13th inning and things are going crazy i'm out in the top step and they say that i'm yeah my dress code so so along those same lines you've been part of uh bench clearing brawls because you've been in you know major league for a very long time what what is a bench coach is like what is the checklist when a bench clearing brawl happens what are you doing first what are you doing to make sure that like everything's cool what goes through your head when it's like all right it's go time we're going for this well it happens a lot you know i mean it's and it happens in your family sometimes you know your sons go after each other and stuff like that you got to make sure that you break things up and not escalate it um and so usually you try to make sure you take care of a player on another team that you can handle so that they don't add to it and then you also try to save your best player so he doesn't get um suspended after it now when you bring that thing up i still remember my son showing me the the clip and i think it was from you guys when you were saying how about that joust guy you know there was a pittsburgh cincinnati brawl and i was like the last guy to get out of the dugout well there's a whole lot of people in front of me and clintus that time had two bad hips and he couldn't get out of clintus one of the strongest men and he and shawn are studs and i'm trying to get behind so my knees don't quite work and so they're now at home plate and i'm trying to get out there and you're you're you're jacking on joust the old guy the brawl's gonna be over by the time you up in the in the streets in the alleys and sky going you got some brawl and then and it's obvious you know it's you see it publicly now because it's that pnc or it's that great ballpark of america or american park and all that but it's the same thing kids are kids are kids in the dugout and it doesn't matter if they're 35 playing a playing a game at the big league level or it's you know at the softball park down the road those things happen have you had a chance to take stock of your legacy as a home run derby pitcher and think to yourself like am i the greatest home run derby pitcher of all time no and and when it's really fun if this has happened to get chance to talk with you and have my whole family here to be able to enjoy this and get to know pete's family because i've got to know pete um but to put in perspective probably the the most uh the most time i ever got compliments publicly was in 2004 i was the advanced scout for the red sox and we came back from 0-3 against the yankees and then we sweep the cardinals and guys like shilling and low and pajo and ortiz and baratek they they said that our reports to myself and the two guys that were in the field with me were scouts and galen carr was a video scout at that time we put it you know we worked all year and it's been a really good job um and they complimented me personally a bunch and so you'd walk around bossy have your ring and they'd say oh yeah you're the reason that you could come back from 0-3 and the first thing i'd say is no i wasn't because those reports were there also for the going over three we were 0-3 and those same reports were there on three so it's the execution of the players because that red sox team to win seven games in a row they executed they played together was awesome and that's the same thing last night is as i look at i could have thrown those pictures to somebody else last night and they wouldn't have gone it was he's really a special special hitter he's a special power hitter and in that type of uh venue in that type of competition that's pretty special to see him do that it's interesting that you brought up 2004 because everybody does talk about coming from behind when you're down 0-3 which i mean for understandable reasons it was an epic comeback it was like one of the greatest comebacks of all time in sports but nobody really talks about what happened next in the world series it almost felt like the world series was a foregone conclusion at that point because of all the momentum you had but i can't imagine that you expected to go in there and sweep the world series if you ask guys like kevin malar and uh fair attack you know they did you know and and you didn't publicly say that before that but this club got so confident out of beating the yankees four straight and at that time that american league east made you better than anybody else because they were the best division of baseball by a decent step and that's not just a hit of the pitching was ridiculous so every hitter got better and and because of that you were going to have a really good opportunity to beat anybody else you played because you played the best competition not just for the previous seven games but for the previous 160 or 180 games and so you're prepared and that's that's the reason why the best teams in all at all competition in all levels in all sports you don't want to play the weaker teams in college why play why play the weaker teams it's not getting you better it gets you a win but it doesn't get you better and and that's why i really believe that in the aura that i felt in that clubhouse coming in for the world series there was i mean unless we're gonna play the yankees again at seven or another al east team that team was gonna dominate whoever they played and it did yeah so there's a little uh synergy on the podcast if you had christian yellow john he's gonna be on the same show as you we just talked to him we talked about losing streaks what's your go-to move if your team's in a losing streak how do you like as a bench coach get guys you know back on track or do you not say anything and let the guys kind of figure it out themselves the three minutes to five minutes after the the previous game is over it's over and done and i've always felt that way um i think you model it and set the tone as a staff person be it the manager be the bench coach be the coaching staff and being a team leader like a yellow cheese and so that that doesn't change and that doesn't mean that we all handle things the same um personality wise but we have to have that tone and in baseball it is paramount there's there's no sport like it because you're playing every day you're playing 162 and so um you move past it like this and i do and that's the reason that's the reason we tell our club we tell our players in our club who is playing the next day before they leave the clubhouse so they can already have left that night no matter if they won or lost left that night ready to go the next day and louis rollhouse and and the staff we have do a great job and the players are all focused on that and it's uh it's a really good tone and i've always tried to set it and each year you get a little better at it because i'm better now than i was a week ago and definitely better than i was five or six years ago in what i try to do what would you say has been like the biggest improvement in the last 10 years and i would imagine that as a bench coach like you there are a lot of guys that are smart that understand the game of baseball that do a good job but don't necessarily stick around for as long as you have so i have to assume that you've either found an edge you've found something you can keep improving on or you know something that they don't know about you know just how to be a guy that people not only respect but like hanging out with i think it's my arm because as long as you throw really good bp you're always going to have a job i never say it's up here maybe it's my heart i hope it's my heart a little bit but uh the arm because i always say if that arm goes if my arm goes today which is never it's gone you never know when it's gonna go tomorrow i'll either be the met bobblehead or if the mets don't want me i'll be wally the green monster or i'll be dinger out here i'll stay out here i'll be dinger in colorado because that's my next job if i ever get what speed do you throw at for your bp because i always like it's one of you think it's very slow you're still throwing in a nice clip well it is a lot slower than it used to be i mean i used it when i first started you know i'd go in and when they needed somebody firm to throw i'd be that guy i remember throwing firm to like movon and mofredo cordero and these guys in the old fenway uh cage out in center field i've got broken nose broken hand because the cage ricochet was almost like arena football out there um and so i used to throw pretty hard but i was at that still at that 50 feet 45 feet 50 now they have it sometimes on the board these days so i actually know that sometimes i'm throwing like 49 miles an hour only and probably yesterday i was probably throwing a little bit less because for a home run derby you want to throw a little bit less you don't have to add any power to the ball when the guys are taking their swings to go go out and practice you ever thought about using spider tack or any performance enhancing capabilities make sure maybe you extend your career a little bit i should have done it more to my son's all three were pitchers the middle one caught also when hit but all three did pitch and i taught him to throw strikes i taught him how to command the ball i never gave him spider tack and it took away probably some of the success they had they weren't quite as bad as i was at giving up all my runs but they definitely weren't that guy with the spider tack to have the extra spin on the ball and break and everything like that how much easier is it to coach first base and third base is it like i mean you just relax at first base first base coach is kind of like that's the easiest job in the world right so so as you guys know my dad sports writer for 50 years of the chicago tribune he was a proponent he was not my grandfather was one said what are you gonna do when you get a real job my dad always said do what you wanted what you like and he says i i always liked writing um and i still go today i go to work each day and love what i'm doing he says david do the same thing so he was he was so glad i went to coach in and i finally get a uh big league coaching job with the red sox in 97 and i call him on the phone and i said dad jimmy williams has taken me as one of his coaches and he goes oh that's great and he goes what are you gonna do i said i'm gonna be the first base coach he goes oh that's like um breasts on a bull he didn't say that i said oh thanks dad um but i think i think at that time um people didn't realize that there was a lot more because yeah third base coach it's the it's the most when i coach third and when i talk to guys that coach third now i know that it is the most it's the closest to being a player as a coach you are because you have to react as a base runner you have to react and it's the hardest base running is the hardest thing and as hard as it is to hit base running everything is changes every pitch right and you are involved every pitch and you have to react off of nine people not just the pitch in one person um and that pitch is tough but base running there are more mistakes than anything else and so as a third base coach you have to be a player and it's very difficult however when i took over at first for jimmy i took pride in learning from davy nelson and a few guys that were really good tommy harper um and i took pride in it and you can be a good base third base coach there are some mechanics of a first base coach and there's some mechanics and i tried to train that when i was field coordinator and farm director to young guys coming up and i still add some input because you can be a good first base coach and it's not just a token because most of my buddies when i did you know when a lot of buddies would say as doctors or lawyers or whatever they were doing big power finance guys they say hey i just want to come and be a bullpen coach for a day come on i'm not gonna go and take that scalpel and go in and take somebody's bladder out you can't coach first yeah yeah you might go out first base you might forget the special sliding mitt that a guy wears yeah yeah or for our club we had to have a mask this year i'm under kevin pilar that's tremendous yeah unreal what a what a super guy he is and he's great for our club he's good for baseball yeah you mentioned your dad he is a legend he was a legend in his own right and uh so he was you know a sports writer for a very long time also on tv the sports writer writers on tv which is a hilarious show that you can go back and watch on youtube but between that your dad being a sports writer and then you being a baseball wiper do you respect baseball more than anyone on earth i think you might i don't know i'm blessed to have this position i'm blessed to be able to do this i'm blessed to be able to be raised by my dad my mom and all the people in chicago they love my dad it's still to this day when they won the world series our son was working at a yahtzee's while he was getting his master's in sports psychology at adler university the middle son was a master skill coach and he walked he would leave yahtzee's and during the run for the world series he would walk by and all the people had put chalk things on well yeah he wrote he wrote something for papa bill his grandfather my dad on that wall and even though you know i was a pirate at that time i had to take that and really cherish it to my heart so i respect that i respect the people more than the game of baseball the people are involved in baseball i've been you know from from man from having felipe louis my manager back in you know 1989 to now his son louis rojas in the mets or to be jerry manual hiring me as a gulf coast league manager in 1987 and and then uh being his bench coach in 2010 being able to be with players like nomar garcia park nomar garcia park left me a text last night and it was because that's a home run hitting contest um to him in 99 in fenway and he sent me a text and said he watched with his kids he watched me and pia alonzo and it was it was so special in my heart i mean so it's you know when you ask that question i didn't think it's the people in baseball yeah i respect that more than anything that's a great answer and you were at that 99 uh home run derby that so for people who don't know that was a legendary home run derby it was mcguire it was so so it was griffey it was bonds it was all the guys in that era did you know at the moment at that time you're looking around like these guys uh this is incredible i'm not gonna ask a steroids question but these guys are incredible and like did you have a second while you're watching it like this is this is something people look back and look at all the legends that are playing in this game i did in the story if you backtrack just a little bit when nomar asked me because home run derby wasn't a big deal at that time um well nomar asked me probably about a week before he goes hey they've asked me to be in the home running contest and he was in the group i threw two he goes i want you to throw i said oh my i got three young kids and my wife's rented a place in the cape to get away because i spent no time with you i used to take a bus i lived in brighton in boston and i take bus 56 in the ballpark we only had one car and it was easier to get in but i couldn't drive and could leave the family by himself so i didn't get a whole lot of time with the family so um i came back i said nomar i don't know let me ask let me ask my wife and so i go back and say billy uh nomar's actually be in the home running contest and throw to him but we've got this and she right away even before she goes no you gotta do this it'll be great i said oh yeah it'll be awesome for the kids it'll be great eight chicks and two-year-old kids no problem so sure enough we do it but i stepped on the field that day to throw bp on the monday to the whole american league i threw to everybody in american league and then threw to a whole lot because people didn't bring their bp throws at that time so i threw a whole lot of home running guys too because that day i threw probably 850 pitches and uh and so but i stepped onto the field that day and i forgot my kids or any i had no idea who kids because it was it was dramatic there was there was fines and there was social and there was larry walker and there was vladie jr there was uh oh everybody and then of course gwynn and ripkin with ken williams but so so when you say what legendary it was i was a little kid it was it was and i got to see ernie our the national league captain was ernie bain yeah it was an all-time yeah he was an all-time and he was in the tent afterwards and my wife brought me up to him and say hey this is david he got to see you when he was young with his dad and that was especially you know and i felt the same way yesterday though being out there and seeing soto and and schwerber and and then uh okani and then tapis jr and nick castellanos i mean it was i thought i forgot that the kids were in the stand until they were young i mean i brought him on the field and almost got security arresting us for bringing my wife and i think you just answered my previous question too because that like your love for the game and the people in the game is infectious and you're just talking about it is awesome like i'm smiling right now you're talking about it so i think yes i'm putting you as number one respecter of the game of baseball in america maybe the first family of baseball yeah yeah that's awesome it's just cool like it's just sports should be cool sometimes and it's it's cool to embrace those moments what do you think you'd be doing if you weren't in baseball right now i'd be teaching or or uh if i didn't get the chance to go to hammers college um i probably would be doing something around chicago um see this is perfect because you'd be you don't really have an answer you'd be like i'd be doing something that's similar to baseball yeah i love it that's so great exactly but that's right like your your love of baseball i think it woke up something in just america is going to love baseball a little bit more tomorrow than they did when they woke up today and your pitches i hope they do because it is it is it is fun for for me and my family but that's what that's what recreation and entertainment is about and and and these players put a lot of work and time to be as good as they are and their talent level is special is special there's so many times i've been a field coordinator or farm director and people say what's the what's the highest level you know what's the toughest level to get to from a ball to double a because it goes from you know two teams to one team ages there's no there's no the biggest gap is minor leagues to the big leagues the triple a big league is the big leagues because the big leagues is the big leagues and there's one spot and those guys are the most talented they work the hardest and uh it is it is a special game to watch it from bp to taking ground balls to then a 90 game that's tough to win it's tough to win a major league game yeah what about um as a bench coach do you have any i'm most fascinated watching people relay signals into the game especially like a third base coach relaying those batter do you have any go-to like fake signals that you do to throw people off if i did in that state i might have to change all the 12 or 14 we have for this coming series because yes you have a bunch and you know what i think we probably overdo it because it's tough to pick up signs from the other other club it's a lot easier to pick them up if you got like you know technology involved and they stop that but without technology it's tough to get on and you're like i think i got something here this is gonna be a good bluff signal and then you've used it in a game it's like you know what this one's just not working yeah but it really comes to the execution of the player because oftentimes the miss sign allows that the other dugout to think they have it and all of a sudden one of your players missed the sign or you put it on wrong and all of a sudden the other club goes oh we don't have it anymore so i love the miss sign because it takes away their feeling that they have the sign yeah good point yeah um well dave this has been awesome we really appreciate it uh we got to come out to a game and we all live in new york now um i don't actually want to come out to a game i do go to the city field whenever the cubs play the mess but it's a long drive you know from the city to to the city we should get you to come out and play some yeah our coach yeah the wiffle ball doesn't stay as straight yeah it's a real ball yes but um yeah and guess what if you're coming out only because you're coming to the cubs get those get those tickets from david ross or something like that i'm not leaving for you if you're coming out to see the mess i'll see if i can leave you some french tickets and that's way up top yeah right it knows me sorry i love it well uh thank you so much for doing this really appreciate it enjoy tonight and uh great pitching like incredible pitching performance last night thank you okay let's wrap up we've got uh guys on ships uh all right this is from last week i'm boss with a bad one him hey dad cat i'm a week away from the due date for our first baby my husband has been very supportive and excited for the big day but has told me he's going to be saying poosh poosh with the oh man that's great poosh poosh poosh poosh that's a mega performance um yeah i know he's going to probably uh if it's your first kid well if it's any kid he's not going to do jokes because i tried to do a joke and then i was like shut down quickly by everyone in the room and then it was no jokes you just get a look and you know it's not a joke in place i think we've all gotten that look before where you try to bring some levity to a situation that's not always appreciated um yeah that is funny though poosh poosh yeah just do it in your head yeah maybe whisper it yeah hey guys especially dad cat i recently stopped breast pumping for my four month old and my left boob won't stop producing milk do you have any tips to solve this problem no i do not pft uh i mean i've got a lot of ideas yeah how that works you do big boy just just have somebody suck on all the time just let just find somebody that wants to suck on it just let them suck how early on in hooking up wait could you actually like blow into it like you're blowing bubbles if you blew into the nipple why are you asking me i don't i don't blow into tits well speaking of i mean i have tits i would if i was uh with a lady that gave birth to my child i would really explore the breasts in the whole milk situation you haven't you tried it have you tasted it no that's kind of weird i would definitely taste the breast milk i don't think you would it's so weird you can sell it online billy knows all about that it's like the most valuable thing for bodybuilders uh for girl dad big cat how do i get my tatas to be as perky as yours i know people give you shit i know people give you shit but i'm seriously jealous thanks it's the big bandai it's do 20 push-ups every like two or three months right before you have to take your shirt off and then you're good to go no i that's me i know i'm working on it i don't know if i haven't eaten carbs lost a couple pounds gonna keep working all right last one also i want to say i like your shirt today oh thank you it's my pot you give me an australian party shirt next time it's my potty shirt there it is it's chillin uh last one i saw my boyfriend's phone a list of girls and i was at the bottom of the list when i asked him about it when i asked him about it he said he said it was all the girls he kissed not all the girls he said sex with yeah every guy has that because he's telling the truth yeah you guys keep listening who they kiss why is there a list of girls he kissed not the girls he's fucked he said it was so the list was longer question mark thanks oh my god it's totally normally thing that every guy does we've all got our list of smooches we carry it with us um yeah just just believe him on this one you don't want to dig too deep on hey babe what's your number 10 000 but no kisses oh 40 000 like what is it who does could be 45 if we're talking no tongue too you count you're like ant you kiss on the cheek oh that counts probably yeah he's trying to get the list as long as he can he really said i kissed oh my god there's actually a possibility this person's in sixth grade that's true and so if you're a 12 year old listener part of my take then yeah i think probably every guy has a list at least in their brain in sixth grade girls yes yes um just hope that it's the best look the worst case that you're thinking right now is that it's girls that he's fucked which it 100 is but the worst worst case is what if he was just ranking the girls that he's fucked that he likes in your last then it's really bad so just hope it's not that yeah i mean it sounds for your sake it could be the girls that he's fucked in order of most recent to least recent yeah in which case just pretty yeah good job actually if you ever as a little tip for guys if you're ever suspected on cheating on somebody you just make a list and then you leave it out somewhere and she'll be like what's this list it's like oh i made a list of all the girls i've had sex with since i was born until now oh you're at the end oh yeah i found my list uh all right billy recap ready to roll by the way so people uh billy's back on his recap on monday we fell off a little bit and then afterwards when we stopped taping he was like so i was talking to a weapons dealer and we're like that's exactly what we want on the recap so he's ready to roll well uh so first things first christian yelich talked about velcro sounds coming off the ball and i was really hoping that i'm gonna go look for it online in the replays but i really want to hear what that noise sounded like in the stadium last year yeah yeah find that for us yeah even if you don't find any that make that sound add some in post and then you're gonna go so viral yep be like hey check out do it for maybe not actually um do it for gary cole okay yeah i don't know all right uh the longest nope the longest home run in lb history before that cast was 582 feet in 1987 and but soto's was the longest who hit that one but you found it you found the distance i just wanted to confirm i just wanted to confirm that feels like you keep going offline that feels like such a fake stat it was probably that glenn allen hill home run yeah they hit the building actually we should be asking bubba bubba knows all the all the master staters uh longest home runs in home oh that's home run derby history erin judge we were there for that 513 what's the sickest home run of all time bubba uh i still think the bear runs at newbie stadium when it goes into like the third deck yeah yeah that's a good one all right longest verified home run was babe ruth at tiger stadium he hit one 575 feet i feel like feet were smaller back then and that's that's the longest that we have so 575 i found 582 1987 but you don't know who anyway ryan burr he was the one who also broke the belichick guerrero story where they were fighting so there may be truth to this ben roethlisberg diet because he did break the tb12 diet story that ended up being completely true and they never won another super bowl right right yeah joey meyer of the denver zephyrs that was your 582 mile high denver zephyrs denver zephyrs could forget yep um okay also uh steven a smith also had to apologize to nigeria he apologized to multiple countries yeah i'm sorry to everyone yeah everyone in a huge uh like it looked like a college athlete like apologized or something it was like also just so funny when steven a smith has put on his voice yeah it's just a it's like a very funny thing to watch you have to like go and be like now yesterday i said some things well because you always expect when he uses that hushed tone because steven a is so good he makes you lean in and listen to him talk and gets real soft yeah he comes over the top he raises his voice and that's when he smashes you so when he's like i'd like to apologize to all the viewers out there of nigerian descent for absolutely nothing yeah you expect for him to come over the top right right uh and also i can totally see how jake broke his ankle on a flat surface i've seen that video oh also the jake video he is someone pointed out online big jj taking free merch from a program that's true interesting well i mean it was just riko walking out with a giant boxer yeah and there were young boys inside of it jake is now a pedophile as well no don't say that don't say that no it's that what's the baby's blood that's in there yeah it's the platelet rich baby's blood jake was walking i'm just saying if he's wearing some arkansas swag it's tough for him to be completely neutral i don't think that he should be allowed to commentate on sec basketball next season correct agree he should recuse himself all things all related yes tortoises have no natural lifetime they can only be killed by other things they never die i thought we didn't we talk about this wait they can't die whole age they can't die whole age tortoises they need like something else to kill like a heart attack nature yeah like nature time i think tortoises do die billy they do die but they don't have any like no tortoise dies in natural causes like if you left the tortoise alone and kept like forever right there's a there's a tortoise named um curious george lonesome george i actually mushy lonesome george yeah what does that mean i went to ecuador it was the oldest living animal on the earth right i went to ecuador went out to the galapagos islands i was going to meet lonesome george the next day the night before he died he was like 180 years old the whole time he mushy i think he just didn't like you yeah he actually pulled a smart move so you killed curious lonesome george allegedly billy by the way you're back that was great that's exactly what we're looking for 69 8 that was exactly what we're looking for billy round applause yeah billy 69 is on the bottom good stand on top oh my god dude 69 was just bouncing around on top 65 65 so close also billy asked if he could write a blog for tomorrow's show from the interview jake is absolutely going to listen to the show and he's going to try to get that blog out super early i bet so blog off blog at first oh oh jake if you're listening feel free to blog what you think you should be doing about your sec journalistic liabilities for next year you know what billy you cock in i'm not actually lazy okay we're not saying that we're listening to the show but blog the discussion about jake's handshake okay what are you doing what you doing so i'm not saying that we're listening to the show and what i'm not saying but we're talking about it and i'm not like talking about it i'm not saying i say it anyway Take me on, I'll be gone It's Pardon My Game presents by Barstool Sports