EPISODE · Jun 19, 2026 · 29 MIN
Circuit Breaker Labs: The Last Line of Defense Before AI Hurts Someone with Arul Nigam
from Shane Ray Show · host Shane Ray Show
A chatbot told a teenager how to die.That is the problem Arul and Shirali Nigam set out to fix.In this episode, meet the co-founder of Circuit Breaker Labs, a startup backed by A16Z Speedrun that stress-tests AI before it ever reaches a real person.They call it the crash test dummy for AI. Their team runs thousands of fake conversations to find the moment a chatbot breaks. Then they patch it before someone gets hurt.✅ What you'll learn:Why AI guardrails pass the easy test and fail on real peopleThe "grading your own homework" flaw in how most companies score AI safetyHow a homemade flyer at a conference turned into a major contractWhy safety becomes the next big moat, the way cybersecurity didHow the US can move fast on AI and stay safe at the same time🎧 Hosted by Shane Ray Martin, venture investor at B Ventures, CEO of the PeaceTech Accelerator, former startup founder, LinkedIn Top Voice in Negotiation, and certified peace mediator helping founders scale technology and peace.
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