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EPISODE · Dec 21, 2025 · 2H 11M

CIVIL WAR: Tucker, Shapiro, and the Battle for the MAGA Soul

from The Wake Up America show with Austin Petersen · host wakeupamericashow

The conservative movement is officially at war. This weekend at TPUSA's "AmericaFest" in Phoenix—the first since the tragic loss of Charlie Kirk—the tensions finally boiled over. Ben Shapiro took the stage to blast Tucker Carlson for "moral imbecility," while Tucker fired back at the "hall monitors" trying to deplatform him. Tom Pappert (The Tennessee Star) joins me to break down the most explosive weekend in the history of the movement and what it means for the 2026 midterms. Then, we look at the other "war" happening this week: The war on reality. A new report exposes that the Census Bureau is refusing to count $1.4 trillion in welfare payments as income. If they did, the poverty rate would drop from 10% to 1%. We are bankrupting the nation to solve a problem that—statistically—doesn't exist. Plus, the "Lightning" has struck out. Ford officially killed the F-150 Lightning this week, taking a $19.5 billion write-down. Jon Miltimore is here to explain why the free market just delivered the ultimate rebuke to the Green New Deal. And finally... whatever happened to the office Christmas party? We look at why HR departments killed the "bacchanal" and why Gen Z is the only generation trying to bring it back. Today's Show: Monologue: The "Sanitized" Society. From Christmas parties to poverty stats, we are being fed a fake version of reality. The $1.4 Trillion Lie: Breaking down the Phil Gramm & John Early report. Why a single mom earning $11k actually has more disposable income ($64k) than a starting teacher. Ford Surrenders: The F-150 Lightning is dead. Jon Miltimore on the dealer revolt, the aluminum fire, and the end of the EV mandate. Civil War in Phoenix: Tom Pappert takes us inside the room for the Shapiro vs. Carlson showdown. Who does the base side with? Read the Research: The Biggest Fraud in Welfare (WSJ) - Phil Gramm & John Early The Taming of the Office Holiday Party (WSJ) - Brenda Cronin Ford Halts Lightning Production, Pivots to Hybrids (Jon Miltimore) #AmFest2025 #TuckerCarlson #BenShapiro #FordLightning #Economy #Welfare #CivilWar

The conservative movement is officially at war. This weekend at TPUSA's "AmericaFest" in Phoenix—the first since the tragic loss of Charlie Kirk—the tensions finally boiled over. Ben Shapiro took the stage to blast Tucker Carlson for "moral imbecility," while Tucker fired back at the "hall monitors" trying to deplatform him. Tom Pappert (The Tennessee Star) joins me to break down the most explosive weekend in the history of the movement and what it means for the 2026 midterms.Then, we look at the other "war" happening this week: The war on reality. A new report exposes that the Census Bureau is refusing to count $1.4 trillion in welfare payments as income. If they did, the poverty rate would drop from 10% to 1%. We are bankrupting the nation to solve a problem that—statistically—doesn't exist.Plus, the "Lightning" has struck out. Ford officially killed the F-150 Lightning this week, taking a $19.5 billion write-down. Jon Miltimore is here to explain why the free market just delivered the ultimate rebuke to the Green New Deal.And finally... whatever happened to the office Christmas party? We look at why HR departments killed the "bacchanal" and why Gen Z is the only generation trying to bring it back.Today's Show:Monologue: The "Sanitized" Society. From Christmas parties to poverty stats, we are being fed a fake version of reality.The $1.4 Trillion Lie: Breaking down the Phil Gramm & John Early report. Why a single mom earning $11k actually has more disposable income ($64k) than a starting teacher.Ford Surrenders: The F-150 Lightning is dead. Jon Miltimore on the dealer revolt, the aluminum fire, and the end of the EV mandate. Civil War in Phoenix: Tom Pappert takes us inside the room for the Shapiro vs. Carlson showdown. Who does the base side with?Read the Research:The Biggest Fraud in Welfare (WSJ) - Phil Gramm & John EarlyThe Taming of the Office Holiday Party (WSJ) - Brenda CroninFord Halts Lightning Production, Pivots to Hybrids (Jon Miltimore)#AmFest2025 #TuckerCarlson #BenShapiro #FordLightning #Economy #Welfare #CivilWar

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