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EPISODE · Mar 27, 2025 · 31 MIN

Civilian Cyber Corps: Protecting Underfunded Organizations

from Data Security Decoded · host Rubrik

Welcome to the ⁠Data Security Decoded⁠ podcast by Rubrik Zero Labs. In this episode, our host, ⁠Caleb Tolin⁠, is joined by ⁠Michael Razeeq⁠, a cybersecurity policy researcher specializing in advocating for Civilian Cyber Corps (C3s). Michael shares insights into how these volunteer forces, C3s, are transforming community cyber defense, addressing workforce shortages, and providing both preventive and reactive cybersecurity services to underfunded organizations. Michael's research provides a unique perspective on the emergence of the Civilian Cyber Corps across various models, from university cyber clinics to state-level programs. These task forces address gaps in cybersecurity defense where resource constraints leave organizations vulnerable. As a ⁠2024 #ShareTheMicInCyber Fellow at New America⁠ and 2025 Fellow at UC Berkeley ⁠CLTC⁠, he advocates for a "whole society" approach to cybersecurity, highlighting successful implementations in states like Ohio and drawing inspiration from Estonia's cyber defense unit. Join Caleb and Michael as they explore the operational frameworks of C3s, discuss the challenges of recruiting and vetting volunteers, examine legal considerations for establishing programs, and share insights on measuring both quantitative and qualitative impacts of these initiatives. They also look at the future of C3s through increased collaboration and partnerships like the Cyber Resilience Core. Episode Highlights: [01:30] The Rise of Civilian Cyber Corps (C3s) [13:11] Pathways to Establishing C3 Programs [19:47] Left of Boom vs Right of Boom Services [26:49] Addressing C3 Implementation Challenges Episode Resources: Caleb Tolin on LinkedIn Michael Razeeq on LinkedIn “Civilian Cyber Corps: A Model Law for States” by Michael Razeeq for New America New America’s #ShareTheMicInCyber Fellowship Program UC Berkeley Center for Long-Term Cybersecurity Program CISA Cybersecurity Resources for High-Risk Communities

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