EPISODE · May 28, 2026 · 40 MIN
CKIO Fisher Phillips | How a Law Firm Wins Business with Custom AI
from Tech Teams Today · host Revelo
Most engineering leaders know the build vs. buy vs. partner question. Evan Shenkman is living the answer, and it's all three at once. Evan leads knowledge management and innovation at Fisher Phillips, a large labor and employment law firm that's quietly become one of the most aggressive AI adopters in legal. The playbook is set in legal, but it travels.In this conversation, Josh and Evan cover:Why build/buy/partner stopped being a choice and became a portfolioHow to hire across the AI-ML and domain-expert seam (and which soft skills actually matter)The "moneyball" approach: turning years of messy, unstructured expert data into a working toolWhy the model du jour problem is a feature, not a bugHow attorney-client privilege becomes a real competitive moat when you build your own toolsWhat Evan's path from practicing attorney to AI team lead says about non-linear careers in tech leadershipAbout Our Guest:Evan Shenkman leads the knowledge management and innovation function at Fisher Phillips, a large labor and employment law firm. After ten years as a practicing attorney, he moved into KM, then data analytics, then AI, becoming one of the earliest adopters of generative AI in the legal industry. His firm was a design partner on CoCounsel, the first GenAI tool built for legal work, and now runs an in-house team of ML engineers and former practicing lawyers building custom AI tools on top of foundation models. Evan isn't a coder. His job is making sure the people who can work seamlessly with the people who practice law.About Tech Teams Today:Tech Teams Today is a podcast by Revelo where we sit down with engineering leaders to talk about how they build, scale, and lead high-performing tech teams. Real conversations. No fluff.Subscribe and never miss an episode:- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@revelohq- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3ymzd0MC1YjnFy7hKzzR9x?si=51f3989aa4bc4308- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tech-teams-today/id1641545336Connect with us:- Revelo: https://www.revelo.com- Josh Anderson (Field CTO): https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuadavidanderson/- Revelo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revelohq/
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