Welcome to the podcast. I'm your host, Jane Schaeffer. Today on the podcast, guys, I got to cover what's going down with Enthropic. They have released so much.
In fact, people are saying they're completely changing everything that OpenAI is doing. There's a release schedule from Enthropic because opening I recently just announced that they're shutting down Sora. They're video model for good, and people are confused about it. And all signs basically point back to Enthropic and how much ground they have gained with white collar and productivity work.
And their revenue is absolutely insane as more and more people are using them to basically power their whole businesses and companies. So I want to talk about the most recent update that Enthropic did two days ago. They released a computer use on Claude Co-work, which essentially if you're using Claude, there's three different tabs, the chat, the co-work, and the Claude code personally I'm not a developer, so I don't use the Claude code, although I probably should figure out how to use that more. But yesterday I spent basically the entire day working with Claude Co-work.
If you haven't used it before, I'm going to talk about some of the best ways to use it, some of the best frameworks, what it can do, what it can't do, and a lot of the updates. Now, one of the things that I'm really excited about with all of this is that if you want to try the latest versions of these AI models, whether that's Claude or OpenAI or Google or Grok or any other models, you can go check out my startup, AIbox.ai, where you get access to over 70 of the top models, and you can actually build apps and tools with them, build automations, so you don't have to sit there and do things over and over again. The website is aibox.ai, you describe the tool you'd like to build, and we'll automatically chain AI models together, add prompts, and build a tool for you. So it's linked in the description, you also can just chat in our playground with over 70 of the top AI models, and that is $8.99 a month, so way cheaper than $20 for 20 of these different subscriptions.
OK, Claude Co-work. The thing that a lot of people have been super excited about is Felix Reesenberg two days ago said, today we're releasing a feature that allows Claude to control your computer, mouse, keyboard, and screen, giving it the ability to see any app. I believe this is especially useful if used with dispatch, which allows you to remotely control your computer while you're away. So two features here, and both of them I've tried, both of them are impressive.
Dispatch essentially is, and all this stuff, by the way, you might not see if you're using Claude, but it's in your settings. So the first thing with this particular use is that it is for, when they first rolled it out, it was for Mac, but I think just today, a couple hours ago, they added it for Windows as well. So everyone should be able to get access to this. You have to download, I downloaded the specific Claude app for my Mac.
So it's not like on the website or the web browser. This has to be the app because it is taking control of your computer. So you're going to go into the settings and you're going to want to toggle on Claude Co-work and also you're going to want to go and toggle on dispatch. Now dispatch is a particularly useful feature that essentially allows it to sync up to your phone.
So if your computer is open, I just have my computer set to, if it is plugged in, not to go to sleep. And so I could be away somewhere, somewhere far away, and Claude can be essentially working remote. It essentially takes over my computer screen, can do literally anything I want it to do. And then with my phone, if I'm like, let's say I'm at the grocery store, I can open my phone up, see what it's working on, and chat with it and say, hey, now can you please do XYZ?
Basically, I think this is Claude's response to open Claude, which by the way, I also tried to set up what I did set up open Claude as well the day before. It is complex. I don't want to sound too dumb here or something, but it's kind of tricky. It takes a while to set up.
You're going to want to watch a lot of tutorials. If you're not a developer, Claude Co- does much harder to get set up, and it doesn't have a lot of the cool user interfaces. There's just a lot to set up where in my opinion, if you're the average mid-white call or person, or you're working in a company, you want to kind of be on the cutting edge, this is huge. Now, what I will say is it is completely taking control of your computer screen, and it is sort of slow, especially right now.
And they even admit this in their post, she said, we will work. This will work with both Claude Co- and Claude Desktop app. You can use it to click all the buttons in a legacy app that you'd like to automate, or use it to help you debug a native app you're working on. It's slow, but giving Claude any mouse and keys is so exciting to me.
That's what Felix said about this. He's over at Antropic. So it's slow is an understanding. It feels kind of like it's honey, if I'm being honest.
So I'm not going to over-hype this and say, it's zooming around clicking. The speed will increase inevitably, but for the time being, I think it's time you're really careful and make it slow. So why do I bring that up? It's a very useful tool because you can essentially chat with it and get it to do a whole thing.
So yesterday I had it generating scripts for a project I'm working on. I had it going into different websites, generating content. I had it going to AI box my own website and running boxes on AI boxes and grabbing the output of those boxes. Actually, I found that was one of the best ways to use it was basically to build an automation or like a tool on AI box.
And then give it a whole project, but when it came to the content generation, instead of trying to manually give it a huge prompt, we're ahead to add that into it steps. It's just one of the steps. This box, this link box on AI box, generate with these inputs and then grab that and move it to the next part of our project. I then had it literally opening up and editing videos on CapCut.
So I just told it like, hey, on my computer, there's a video editor called CapCut, open that up, pull this file in, pull that file in and start editing it in this way. Now, what I will say is again, not very fast. You got a lot of the work done, but if you sit there and watch it, sometimes it can be painful because it's like, I am opening up CapCut. Now I'm searching for the new project button and then it says like 20 things back and forth for like three minutes.
It's like, okay, I'm clicking on it and you're like, oh my gosh, it's so slow. But so here's where I think that this is pretty useful. Number one is it took me basically all day to kind of chat back and forth with it and get it to figure out how to do this whole project, this whole workflow. I mean, to be fair, probably would save me two hours a day.
And it's actually something that I have a, something that I have an employee working on. But it's something that I'll probably take two hours a day. It took me, I don't know, the better part of four hours, not like constantly chatting, but I'd like send a message, I'd be working on something on my other computer. And then like 10 minutes later, I'd send another message or correct it.
But the cool thing about it is at the end of a conversation, once you do work out like a whole workflow and automation with it, you can say, save this as a skill, it will create a file where it breaks down everything that worked. And also, by the way, sometimes it tries things, they don't work. And it tries them a different way when it creates that skill file at the end. It will just like basically document all the ways that it works to accomplish your tasks.
It doesn't have to go and try different things. And sometimes sometimes the way this tool works is different than the way that we are used to. So I remember like when I was first using it, there was, I was like, copy this and paste it here. And it really struggled with like the copy and paste for a long time.
And finally there was like a pop up that like had to, you know, say like, hey, do you accept the copy? Like that I can use the copy and paste on your computer. And I'm like, well, of course. So then added that to the skill when I ran it again, right at the beginning before I even kick off the whole thing, it's like, hey, we need access to copy and paste, and your browser and your computer files.
And it kind of had like this checklist and I clicked, except all, then it could run the whole process where, well, I kind of worked through it and it was taking a long time yesterday. It was having pop ups one by one being like, oh, I can't do that unless you can access to this. So once it built that skill file, it gave me all of those kind of access requirements right at the beginning that I could check off and it could go. So it takes a while to get something set up.
But once you save it as a skill, then I just basically the skill kind of has a name. And I'll have to do is say, hey, run this skill again. And it will go and do the whole process. And it kind of has all figured out now.
It is slow. So I would definitely recommend having a separate computer that you are running this on. And I think you can just get an old laptop. If you have one, a lot of people, of course, are buying Mac minis, but I don't think that's completely necessary at all.
But right now I literally have a couple of a few laptops. So I just ran that on my Mac all day yesterday and then I was working off of my windows as kind of my backup. I'll probably at some point get a Mac mini that is running at all. I think it works a little better on Mac at the moment.
Well, at least that was what I was thinking about. We just they just rolled out windows today. So it was only two days apart. I was just thinking they didn't have windows ready to write a rock and roll.
Overall, I've been really impressed with this tool. It's so much it could do. I mean, literally because it can take control of your screen and it can click around. I've used a lot of these agent softwares for the last couple of years.
Opening. I really kind of was kind of had a good thing going with their agents, but they just weren't quite there. And this feels much much more sophisticated. This feels like it actually works.
And I've been actually saying this for a while because I've been using the Google Chrome Cloud app, which is a sidebar, which takes control of your Google Chrome browser and get stuff done for you. So that's kind of my first introduction to this. Now that they've just made it control your whole computer screen. I'm thrilled.
And this is honestly a pretty decent tool, especially if you can use it. If you can dispatch a remote from your phone, I would say throw this on a separate computer and I'd probably say build out some skills that you teach how to do and just have it running those skills. Or anything that's pretty repetitive. It's writing newsletters or articles or documents or research, all that kind of stuff.
It can get it all figured out. Now the one thing that I want to end this on, I made a post on LinkedIn and it got a lot of traction. So I think it probably resonated and struck a chord with a lot of people. And I had basically reshared a post that I saw on X from Thomas Frank.
He said currently 892 hours into automating a 30 second task I do four times a year. It's going to be so worth it once I get everything working. I thought that was hilarious. And I think that that's kind of what I felt like for me yesterday, but I was also figuring out the tool and all the capabilities and how to set it up and how to, you know, how to basically connect it with my Gmail and with all my different apps and stuff that I use.
So I think at the end of the day, it does kind of feel like this. It takes forever to figure out some of these automation software. But I definitely think that this cloud, this, this, this cloud computer use is one that's super valuable. It's worth a learning.
Yes, like I could say, it's kind of slow and it's not, you know, and asks like for permission to do things, but it does get the task done and it does do it well. So I would say spend some time on this one. It's going to get faster. Like they're going to make the tool become faster or faster.
Now, if you're a developer, you probably don't even need this. You're probably running something like Open Claw or something like Cloud Code that can get a lot of these types of little, can get a lot of stuff down for you. But if you are a no coder like myself, this is 100%. I think the best way to work with agents and to automate stuff, it is phenomenal.
I would highly recommend it. All right, guys. Thank you so much for tuning into the podcast today. If this was interesting, try to really just basically spend the entire day.
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