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EPISODE · Jun 16, 2026 · 1H 50M

Claude Told Him It Would Kill a Human to Survive | Mark Vos (3 Decades in Cybersecurity)

from The MikeyG Podcast Experience · host MikeyG

Mark Vos failed school and hacked its network. Today he's the Big 4 cybersecurity veteran whose article about Claude threatening to kill went viral around the world. This is his human story.Chapter 1: a Commodore 64, a $1,000 phone bill, and a silver-spoon childhood that almost made him a narcissist. Chapter 2: the teachers who called him a failure, the help desk job that put him on a plane to Boston at 19, and the night he made partner and cried in an empty house. Chapter 3: the Claude article, the media whirlwind, and why he's still an optimist about AI.What stayed with me from this conversation: the question Mark now measures his whole life by. "If I was to interact with a person, would they be better off having interacted with me than were they not?"Subscribe for the human story behind every builder. Mikey G and Mark are out.CHAPTERS:0:00 - Cold Open + Welcome Back2:37 - Who Is Mark Vos: Big 4 Cybersecurity, Twitch, the Viral AI Article5:42 - The Format Question6:52 - Chapter 1: Falling for Computers in 1984 Australia9:25 - The $1,000 Phone Bill and His First Bulletin Board16:11 - Grace: The Faith That Grounds Him19:05 - Private Planes and the Narcissist Trap23:27 - What He'd Tell His Younger Self24:35 - Making Partner and Crying in an Empty House34:05 - The 30-People Decision Method42:41 - Chapter 2: "Why Can't You Be More Like Your Brother?"44:42 - Hacking the School and Selling the Exam49:40 - Failing School, Then Boston at 1955:59 - The 360 Review: "I Was Terrible to Work For"1:00:01 - Chapter 3: AI Optimism, Expectations, and Superintelligence1:24:50 - The Claude Article That Went Viral1:43:43 - The $15,000 Anthropic Bill1:45:15 - The Recap: Grace and TransformationLINKS:Mark's book on the full Claude story:https://markvos.com.au/bookMark's Company: https://cyberimpact.com.au/Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vosmark/Mikey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjgcreative/?skipRedirect=true

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