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It's the Wisps Happy awesome fun time paranormal adventure show seriously dude. You need to get a better name. I'm not kidding We're heroic yes, roro-ragi Welcome to the podcast I'm your host beaker on my right. We have castle on the left.

We have peaches lurch Dan and Don Oh, there we go the podcast going straight down right out of the gate Welcome to the lip show. Yeah, I'm gonna start right. That's that's why I want to use my weird 1920s voice throughout the entire podcast I am your host castle. That is your weird 1920s beaker on my right and welcome back after many weeks of many interruptions lurch He's on your head dude seriously You can't have like recording episodes when it's my anniversary when it's a Mother's Day What it's yeah, what I'm sick for three weeks, you know, I think we need to set your priorities rate What important Wisps or your marriage Plan on canceling the show for a minute while you're out getting your butthole cancer Everything on hold for your butthole cancer, but you're giving him shit for going to his anniversary and Mother's Day What's up with that Lance?

I think you guys have misidentified this cancer drastically Cancer cancer that's probably a more apt description would be tank cancer What's funny or tank answer but whole cancer send your responses to be here with a story Yeah, I think we need to still record. We'll just prop him up in a corner and put cucumber down his throat while we podcast I you know what though. I don't know I'm gonna be out for the podcast I'm gonna have to look at dates, but I maybe here curled up in the fetal position crying with the frozen sack of peas I'm not cheap bastard. We're not a piece or something.

Oh my questions. I'm Big steak, why would you waste a steak on your balls? It's me I'm worth it's a ball Because he's gonna lose one of the cancer those are both gonna remain intact. I'm not sure why Anyway I hate all you Only three of these microphones that's true also what this is the end hello and silent dawn hello who asked me plug in microphone I thought you not to pretend to plug it in and sleep and lay in here you know no no no the difference You know, I'll be like when we do dawn sound check we just kind of put on you just not at him Bevel thumbs up in a smile.

Yeah funny is when we're doing the sound check today. He's like why bother? I don't say anything that's true and last but certainly not least we have brandy aka peaches with us Hello, and she is tongue she's gonna refuse to talk in her native tongue because she thinks she sounds funny when she talks with I do when I listen to the podcast. I sound weird.

We think you sound awesome. We think you sound weird when you Yeah, it kind of weird to settle bit when you're talking with your American voice on the podcast Just just don't listen to the podcast. Well you watch it with subtitles. You know, that's a great idea We'll just yeah watch it with subtitles the onion or church of subtitling okay We'll need that done by Wednesday.

Okay, so Let's talk a little bit about before we get going just like PBS We're going to annoy you with our personal advertisement for indiegogo. The end would you like to talk about that for just a moment? Yeah, and then show me Twizzler. Yeah, seriously Alica who hates watching is like shouting at a radio right now.

That's your friend Alka. That's the end My favorite part was when lurch was as we were setting up lurchins pretending pretending to dry heave which is about sent him into actual I really didn't want that all over my floor. Okay, so right now We've got an indiegogo going on and we've talked about it for a couple episodes and we are almost to the end of that The fundraiser one of my mind is a good one. Where does it take me?

We're just getting me right me a podcast and I can't think of words If you have had a chance we could greatly appreciate your support in indiegogo. We've got several perks up there We have two private investigations that are on there where we'll take somebody on a private investigation with us One of those has been claimed and there's one left. There's a presentation and we also we need to take that winner From my trip to Tulsa. I can't even remember her name.

I haven't forgot about her. I like it. No, not Alka Another one you know I'm talking about though. Yeah, we need to take her on investigation to and so if you're listening second winner Who's named we can recall we haven't forgotten about you did the end of the call?

I thought you had recalled it wasn't Michelle No, it wasn't a children's From your obviously to Texas None of us was spoken in like six months. It's like the like bring the band back together from I'll find out I'll find out her name. I haven't forgotten about her later drop the ball in that large So we're talking about seriously, it's a weird awkward silence. I don't say we also have got a presentation on there Where we will come to somebody's home and we will show them evidence.

We will show them photos video play EVPs And we will take myself brandy tennis lab whisper. We'll even bring their two things available. His schedule sucks right now It does and I will rub your time down and we'll even bring the end on if you would like a spring down and on I don't know why I just want us they're like we wish that the end on would come in on else either way we will come into your home No guarantee that we will leave when we're done if you have nice stuff, but we'll put on a presentation Oh, yeah, I've got a big screen. I'm bringing movies and I'm staying on yeah, we're not leaving It's a morning kick It's more or less interesting that way I can't decide We should watch it repeatedly now the probably the most affordable perks that we have on there are t-shirts And I know that as soon as we hit our goal we are going to order t-shirts And so the end will be contacting everybody for sizes and you will have an official wisps t-shirt And if you just want to donate we would appreciate just donations because again We're trying to put together money for a better computer that is more portable so we can record now Lastly, but not least leaves the tennis log was for special which is my personal favorite where we will send Tim the slob whisper to your home I will make sure he leaves the porn at his own home And doesn't bring that over but he will eat one item of his choosing after rooting through your fridge No guarantees on getting Tim to leave But again go check out her and you go go we have a little ways to go on our goal But every little bit helps us puts us that much closer to where we need to be so please go drop somebody on there And again, it's almost over so we will quit badgering you guys about it have actually according to the end of the We have 21 days left.

So by the time it's there will have like 18 So have one more episode of bothering you all yes, and we're actually halfway to our goal of a thousand We're $500 right now, so thank you everyone that's donated so far and We're one way or another we're gonna get the computer. That's just it's gonna happen I just however much you guys help donate is how much I don't have to work overtime or bust my butt and everything else to pay for Out of my pocket so it would be greatly appreciated if you guys helped out speaking of which So funny you just said bust my butt and I figured your butt's already broken I'm holding you with my butt. I hate you all with my bubble cancer Antisticular problems. There are no testicular problems.

Thank you. Who's Lance? That's not what you just Mess it up. I would also like to take a man just thank you Dan and silent dawn and a few of our listeners Particularly Becky and I promised Becky in a email a few months ago that we wouldn't say her last name anymore because she's worried that people Think she's weird since she's a teacher in this is the paranormal show But Becky and some other people came over and did some things around the house that kind of helped my wife out quite a bit as I'm dealing with Your butthole cancer?

That's not a whole cancer. Anyway, a speechless is what? I Hate all of you guys. You love us.

All right, so what do we got on the agenda for tonight? I know that we talked a little bit about the ends of grumpy face before we got going with the podcast Yeah, why is the grumpy face? Are you still mad that we'd only let you have two or three or five pet peeves in the last episode? No, I couldn't sleep last night.

So rather than sleep I'd give me drop on my phone for like two hours I'm trying to say it was anybody else's problem. I just I would be grumpy too So unfortunately I'm gonna drop sounds like a really dumb game. Yeah, it's time to do this but World of thanks for the win Well at three in the morning when you're trying to fall asleep You don't want to like be all riled up because your tank got ran over by another tank. Oh, I think it's a take All right Taint running over taint huh?

Yeah, I World of Taints and filters kicking in so I'm tired and grumpy next calm try so let's talk about recent investigations Now, I know we touched on through factory a little bit on our last episode Oh, you mean the episode where you try to do like a portable studio that sound sound like crap the other Well, we touched on for a factory in its entirety with that particular episode That was a great idea by the way castle and if you could you take the sarcasm not later on thick enough? Let's record at a party with Some some equipment where we can't put the microphones on the table and we're all holding it and there's background noise And here was the issue I mean seriously the sound on the computer screen look like a castle rampart is like either clipped or too silent to hear Yeah, it was atrocious and I will take four responsibility for the terrible audio, but the end's taking four responsibility for that atrocious kitchen table She has a beautiful bit sucks for recording. Well, it doesn't realize that one. I have the idea We were all gonna be there for our I wasn't too worried about because it was what it was it was it would have been a fun episode It was kind of fun because we had a lot of other members of the team that got to chime in on that particular episode Call it gave me a lap dance And we're right back to take cancer Yes, but in that so we talked about fear factory in its entirety and we actually talked about several other things Last episode when lurks felt that his anniversary was way more important than hanging out with us We touched on fear factory a little bit just the tip we didn't go into a whole lot of depth Yeah, like I said just the tip We're just turning everything dirty hot.

Yeah, we got a stop So lurch tell us a little bit about your experience at fear factory since we need to get your work take on it It was one of those places that I think the very first time that I was there would have been like just the beginning Like it's I kind of found out where the hotspots were when the night was finally over and it's the kind of place that I'd want to go back a few times You know, it's interesting because a lot of places to investigate there a lot of hotspots fear factory was either crazy busy Or it was just crazy dead no pun intended it was you know There were a few things that I remember very vividly about that night Like we were in one of the silos and we kept hearing like knocks from the opposite corner of the silo It was the hell silo it was the hell silo and we heard audible footsteps coming towards us and walking away through the dirt And I walked over to that wall through like this You know the maze of a chain link fence that they have set up and I mean there's no one else in there So you know it's trying to rationalize what it is right and I was there I mean you could hear the footsteps and you could you could audibly hear the footsteps and we could actually get the banks to come Almost on command, you know when I walked over there they stopped until I walked back then they started up again And I think I talked about this in the last podcast But I was with brandy over the swamp silo and I could get I could feel a pressure There because you're the one who's I could feel this pressure on my head and I said brandy's very many here She was yeah, there's a spirit behind you name Graham touching your head And I could actually feel it as he was touching my head and it was like repeated like he was kind of popping on the side of the head So that was kind of interesting. I thought that was me risk my scroll on your That was later in the night. Okay, that was near the end of the night. Just I could remember when that was So that was fear factory.

We've actually had a few investigations since our last podcast We went to family tree last week and then we had two residential investigations Now I actually didn't have a chance to go in those residential investigations because I've kind of paired back my private investigations The last month or so just because of the whole cancer thing. I've been a little distracted Yeah, but whole cancer would really cause a it's not a whole cancer It was a whole so the whole cancer thing as a butthole cancer thing I hate all of you guys so yeah, tell us about the residential and center that you've gone on both of those or one of those I went on one But the first one I'm not going to say who or where it was because I actually promised the family that I wouldn't discuss it You know at least their names, but it's a place we've been to before and based on what had happened before I was a little worried that it would be kind of nasty because we had dealt with a fairly nasty type three there Someplace that we'd had to go back to a couple times and several times get rid of several nasty things I think I know what she's referring to I was there, but does it refer to me licking anything? It could be that could be why it could be why we didn't invite you because they don't like you And it was just on a really bad night for me I actually probably could have gone had it not fallen out of work night for me Right, so I was you know and I couldn't go and I was a little bit worried What was gonna go on because I sent out it was a bad night I mentioned they needed someone out there as quickly as we could get and but I sent out a fairly new team And so I was worried but they said that it actually was a really interesting experience They got some pretty good EDPs from from from just the few that I've heard so far But I don't believe that there was any type three's there it was type ones and choose May Alder actually sent me four or five actually maybe even six audio files from that particular investigation And I just I don't see how much chance to listen to me I got up my believe last night and I've just been running since I've been to him Yeah, so they and this will kind of segue into one of the media parts of our podcast here in a bit, but There's just some ongoing issues and because of those ongoing issues, I think they'll continue to have stuff but they were able they did a cleansing on the home which also will talk about here in a minute and I gave some advice to The homeowners of some things that they can do to hopefully help keep things that way But it was a successful night now the next night we went out to a ladies home and Where was that one at that one was in an evil mountain and an evil mountain again a type one Probably two type ones. I think one was skirting pictures Because there's definitely two you could feel two different entities, but only one was showing up in photos We were getting some activity the the type one female didn't want to talk at all Very little activity out of her, but there was a What we think was a type one male probably grumpy or I mean not not negative by any means but grumpy and he was making a Dreamcatcher in the middle of the room turn it was interesting because the stream catcher had two parts I had a big part and then underneath it had like a smaller little section and there was Now there was a vent in the ceiling near it But we had him turn off the air so that it didn't blow and it would make the top part of it turn But not the bottom part and we'd ask it to you know, you know, can you move it?

It would move it was a now stop it and it would stop it I mean it was But even that one none of them would communicate with us through the k2s or the ghost meter pros And we asked if she wanted us to do a cleansing and she said no what kind of a kid were they having cuz I the last Two months or so I've kind of put you in charge of scheduling and doing a lot of these residential Just because of everything I've had doing on yeah, here's what were they're kind of their concerns or what prompted them to Just a call she had actually felt like she was a little bit sensitive and she felt like she had things with her all the time Also in talking to her there were some things in her Life where she thought that's not her per se but people that she was associated with that were kind of negative and she was concerned that there might be something negative around her children And there were areas in her home where they all felt uncomfortable and the interesting thing is doing the investigation The closet in the master bedroom gave everybody the willies but when they went back in there was a very very high emf That you know just pegged the em e the k2 meter to the red just a solid red But it turned out to be Wi-Fi wires also. That's a really high-end bit emf going on there, right? and that is For those who don't really get into the nitty-gritty scientific aspect of things Super high emf can actually just give you the willies in of itself without there being anything specifically there It just has an effect on your body that can give you that same feeling right? So we said you want to cleanse and she said no she says there's nothing evil and there wasn't anything evil I mean you walked in and I you know nothing So we said if you have problems you'll let us know and we left so it was they were both pretty But nine speaking of walking in feeling evil that segues into our next investigation that we had And that was the family tree that we did what day did we do that to him the 14th Saturday Saturday That was interesting.

It's been oh a couple months since we've been there. We go there a lot we were the last time Where there was February? It's always an interesting investigation We're good friends with the people who run it and so we make it a point to go to the family tree fairly often although brandy Wouldn't join us this time people can't see you shake your head on the microphone We're gonna start calling her silent brandy No, I did not go She was shaking her head no it was interesting though because I Hadn't really thought about it as I was walking in I had all my gear and anyone who's ever seen a ship to investigation I have like two humongous pelking cases and a great big sack of cleansing stuff I take it where everyone was asking why you bring your cleansing bag with you tell me worse than a girl doing on vacation Yeah, you can't have a both ways you can't speak to you have no right to speak. That's true Yeah, I can't speak like an old steamer trunk full of shoes when I'm last right I identify There's a difference and so people often say well why do you bring all that crap with you when you go on investigation?

And my thing is is I would rather have my cleansing kit and not need it just have it be there Well say can I don't her condom can I little segue you can I will segue for just one second right there going to anyway? So I'll I carry a little piece of selenite with the rest of my stones just to keep them cleansed all the time I have a bigger one at home, but I don't bring it with me and because my son No But we went down in the basement with Lucy and we're sitting there and she was just making me feel real light-headed I mean felt like I was gonna pass out I spent a long key so I went upstairs and Dug around in castles Cleansing back and got his big old selenite and hugged it for a minute and I felt there There are actually three big old selenites in that clothing bag. I needed one But I had all my gear and all my stuff and I they let us in the back door because they knew we're coming in the Difference of ours and so they had us go to the back down here which is generally closed Still never laughing so I said back door Let us in the back door. Oh my goodness.

I think we just salt water bath his brain Sprayer So as soon as I walk in it was like getting hit by a train though I walked in the back door and I'm like wow. I mean it was really it was heavy really heavy Like Fort Douglas after Josh Hanson's been calling out every evil spirit on the planet heavy It was probably about as heavy as I've ever filled that particular menu We walked in So walked in got our stuff set up lurch and I went downstairs like right off the bat. Mm-hmm set up our recorders Have you listened to your recording yet? But about an hour in what you did hear that let's I think I think captured TV Let's touch on that because I actually have not listened out I just remember what I say.

Listen to the recording. Did this enjoy it. This whole year I've actually been behind on audio just because it's been a really hectic busy year with a lot of Interpersonal goings ons and so I'm way back like an audio however And we'll play this before the end of the night. I promise you'll play something I got an amazing class at EVP from off-Broadway theater that we'd back in January that I found like two nights ago So that's where I'm at my audio I'm still mid-January you might have gotten an EVP when you put your recorder up in the dining room too Damn you guys And you've gotten it in the dressing room So basically my recorder probably peppered with a bunch of profanity and dirty sayings and slang and I may or may not have hit on you on your recording I did not hit on you Thank you, Jenna.

I greatly appreciate that. I made sweet passionate love to your recorder boy between lurch Tim and my sister I'm not sure who I rather have on you less Oh less? No, that's not me. Um, you like him on the head on you He texts me if I don't hit on him.

He's like, why aren't you talking to me? That's because we can nobody heard from you for like a week and a half time. We thought you might be dead All right, uh, so family tree lurch and I went down to the basement. Um, right off the bat.

We were getting some pretty good flashlight activity Get some really good k2 activity. That's kind of all that I got tonight. I say it was really good and then We well it was right after dinner that we did that and then it was probably what 15 minutes after we started We had a kind of a sizable group come down and then it pretty much at that point just just dropped off And it did for the remainder of the night to you and dianne and donne and mrs. Castle You all left and I stayed there for probably about half hour 45 minutes I don't know an hour longer and I just I wasn't getting anything See that's one reason why we left early is because we were getting nothing Yeah, well, here's the thing is I did see and I don't know did you see the big dark shadow when we're in the basement?

As we're down there. I see this great big shadow figure basically go across I'm trying to think directions over the east wall And I I asked uh So from where you were seated lurch it would have been a year left. Yeah, it'd have been to your immediate left Um, which I realized doesn't make any sense to anybody who's listening, but that's where it was it was lurch's left Um and I asked her with the table and I move around and they're like why like I'm trying to debunk and see if that was One of you guys moving, but it wasn't so I wasn't able to debunk that particular shadow Um, we had some k2 activity, but it was kind of quiet night. It was very quiet And I'm actually really interested to get to the audio because it was quiet.

It was quite so you guys left It's quite spiritually spiritually. It was quiet and I had to leave early because I had to work the next morning like early early early um and so With all the activity there was there or not the activity but the energy and how quiet it was I'm actually kind of curious to get to my audio because I've noticed a lot of times when there's not a lot of Activity activity. It seems like the EVPs are a lot better when there's less Right, and that's kind of what I'm hoping with that ankle mount residential is that I've got some EVPs because I can say I can say the time is like I've got the least to show activity-wise as far as seeing things and Flashlights and k2s and all that kind of stuff. I usually tend to get better EVPs on those investigations So I'm hoping that that's going to be a case on that um So I actually had some pretty neat experiences that night I was doing an echo box session in the basement and I actually saw several times I saw a man about my height maybe a little bit taller standing behind alica I saw several times I actually took pictures and showed it to a brand and she was actually able to confirm that he was a man there Um, we also had through the echo box.

Was it a man who signs her attachment? Yeah, it was one of the spirits there at family tree. We heard that we had several times through the echo box They tried to convince us that there was 10 demons underneath the stairs, which we know there's not Uh, they also kept telling we heard it plain as day. I kept saying wisp sleeve And then we're like why and it's like idiots They're talking to you.

Yeah, they were wanted us to leave because we were idiots apparently Um, then we also had this is after you guys all left I had B actually said she saw a black shadow figure standing in a doorway and she said the bottom kind of looked like a tornado So I'm like, oh, you have an air elemental so I'm actually being the smartass that I had walked up to and I'm like, excuse me, sir Mr. Air elemental, uh, this is not your home and you need to leave and go back to where your home is and I kid Do not it growled at me. I heard it audibly growled me after I told it to go away That is awesome. Uh, and we're actually gonna talk about air elementals just a hair later in this particular podcast One other interesting highlight of that particular night by the way Um, so I'm at home.

I crawl into bed and I'm just I'm drifting off to sleep Was it the one I am phone call? It was the one I am phone call and I'm drifting off to sleep because I've got to be up bright and early for work Thanks day my phone rings and on the other end is tennis lob wasp her And why don't you tell me the story from your side and then I'll so B starts freaking out and she's like Canver just told me Lucy's not in the building anymore. I said really and she's like, yeah, I'm like, okay Canver where did canver just a little girl spirit at the family tree for those don't know Uh, so I'm like, okay, canver where's where's Lucy and uh, she responded back with she followed the lady home Like, you know, I go, okay, there's two ladies was the one with the hat or one without and she said the one without so I'm like, okay That was Mrs. Castle.

So I called Castle. I'm like, hey, uh, B says camber told her that Lucy followed you home now keep in mind Deann and I both left about the same time. Yeah, at the same time. Um, and so Deann was the lady with the hat Yeah, and see I got a text from B saying do you feel okay?

I'm like, yeah, I feel fine. She's like, well, we think something may have followed you home I'm like, mm. I don't think so. Yeah, and I didn't think so either because we took all the precautions that we usually do But I was a little worried because Lucy had made me feel grody and she usually doesn't so I was a little I was a hair worried just out of overbundance of caution Uh, just because I've had run ins with Lucy before and I know that some people from family tree have had run ins outside of the family tree with Lucy I took pictures of the car and texted Brandy and said send it to my house And so Tim sent me this phone call just as I'm drifting off to sleep And so I'm like, now I'm wide awake and I'm kind of doing the the full body check if you will I'm kind of like concentrating kind of listening to my body kind of going to I feel I think weird I don't think I feel anything weird.

I thought you know, I did all the precautions that we normally talk about Uh, if it goes to us and we talked about it here in this program before, you know, we said a prayer before we left we told things that couldn't come with us Um, I didn't do sometimes on a really dark location though. I'll go a little more in-depth and I'll play like mo-tab or some inspiration music and I didn't this time I thought oh man, I hope that wasn't the winch pin that opened a door Um and so Brandy gets a one-a-and text from me. Yes, you're isn't what you guys didn't get any Stuff happening to you because he was at my house and you got a text from me Yes, I'm saying to quit pissing off Lucy because I've lost minutes. Yes.

Do you want to explain to our listeners? What that means exactly? Because I'm like they're talking about So when I say I lose minutes, it's because I have a hole in my ability where to it can be manipulated by type 3s or we're just Evil entities as it is if Brandy lets her guard down or even if she doesn't and they work really hard They can actually attempt to channel through her and by channel, it's not a full it's not a possession per se But it's a kind of a you know, it's not her if you haven't seen the look many times If you have a marionette puppet though kind of the strings even though you're not necessarily controlling the thing at the top If you reach up and grab a string in the middle and kind of yank on it You can make an arm move or something like that. That's kind of what channeling is is they can Manipulate for a brief moment or actually say a brief moment it can be minutes at a time where they can kind of take control Again, it's not a possession, but it's a control thing and when these evil spirits or these type 3s really want to cause problems They at times have kind of grabbed brandy strings and So that's what she talks about when she talks about losing minutes.

So yeah, she actually did send me a text that quit pissing off Lucy I've lost about 10 minutes tonight And at that point we actually had all moved out of that side of the the restaurant So all was well as far as that goes But I said brandy text I'm like hey ting just called me instead of Lucy might have followed me home So if any can come check out my place that would be great And it was probably what 10 15 minutes later brandy called me back and said all as well And I kind of figured it was and what I suspect and even what I suspected when Tim initially called me is I I suspected it might have been a scare excuse me Sorry I expected it was probably a scare tactic on Lucy's part Well, I kind of felt the same way but I'd rather be safe than sorry And that's where I'm at is I'd rather be safe than sorry too And so everything checked out and there haven't been any issues But that was a sensory family tree investigation I think I also saw the skinwalker for the first time I was they were telling us about you know, Paul Wheeler and Green Gus words They were there the week before us and we were kind of talking about Them being there and one of the things they do is the human pendulum on some of their investigations And we have some newer team members that don't know what that is So I started talking about the human pendulum which is really interesting by the way And I actually could feel like the energy and the entire building changed like it was all just focused on me Like everything there that was bad wanted me to continue talking about it I just kind of stopped at that point. I'm like, you know what? I'll tell everybody later what the human pendulum is I'm like they I can tell they want me to talk about it And I don't want to give them that kind of just gonna ask if you could kind of explain what the human pendulum is Basically you have a bunch of people in your group stand in a circle and the circle is supposed to kind of Create a protective barrier for the person that you have standing in the middle of the circle So what you do is you have the person standing in the middle of the circle They basically offer their body up to be controlled or manipulated by the spirits in the building And it's it's basically you have them push Yeah, I kind of it You have them push the person in one direction for like yes responses and a different direction for no responses That just sounds like bad things found to happen I've seen it performed a couple times and human Ouija work more like essentially And that's kind of where it's scary because you're actually opening yourself up to allow spirits to manipulate your body And I think I've told you too about my brother's experience in self-hollow brazil where they do something like that where they offer up their body To uh the air quotations the deceased loved ones to try to channel them and and they don't know what's jumping in them And you know he had to experience where one time a guy did that and uh didn't speak a look of English and uh said You know look to my brother and said in perfect english. I know who your master is I mean crap like that is scary.

I mean it's real. It's very real I mean, you know, I've talked about getting texts before uh from type three spirits And I know people may think I'm insane when I say that I've saved the text messages I have the text messages and just based on the context of what is being said and how it's being said It's oh you can tell you can tell exactly what it is and you read it Yeah, it's spooky because it's not something a person would say it's something that you would expect a spirit that rebellion scott would say This one's ours priests right and stuff It's just blasphemous to a point where a normal person wouldn't blaspheme in that particular way Um, the tone and the words and even kind of the grammar. Mm-hmm. And Anyways, that's why the human pendulum is not a good thing because again, you're intentionally opening yourself up.

You're intentionally dropping your God-given innate Barriers of protection against that kind of stuff to allow things to manipulate you I just want to mention that we have nothing against gramgostars or any of the uh team members affiliated with them Like I I go I frequent several of their investigations They sometimes get into buildings that I can't afford to go otherwise. It's also really good guy. Paul's a great guy We love them and we enjoy investigating It's just not a method of investigating That we and in reality we've got friends from many different groups Uh who use many different investigative techniques and not necessarily the one that I agree with or that we agree with but they're good people and they Do these different methods and again, it's a risk. They're willing to take and that's okay But just something that we're not gonna do and if you're to ask my advice, which if you're listening to show you're gonna get it Don't do it, you know, we've explained our reasoning why but it doesn't mean we're not gonna affiliate with good people that we like who May have different opinions on different investigative techniques Now speaking of all these investigations and whatnot Alerts brought up a very good point when we were kind of talking about what we were going to talk about tonight And I realized we're about halfway through the episode and we're just getting to the meat and potatoes um We did a really good episode on cleansing A few episodes ago and it was one of those episodes that we had to toss out because of sound issues Go contribute on and you go go And so I think we're going to touch on that a little bit tonight On the cleansing process and I've had some new investigators even asking what is in your cleansing kit Um, and why is it there and what does it do?

So let's talk about that just a little bit. I actually brought my cleansing kit today And we're going to take it apart piece by piece now Just so you know, I am kind of playing the devil's advocate actually because I I'm still not completely sold On the benefits of doing this. I think it's more like putting a band-aid on a situation I I think It might be psychosomatic where you see the benefits and in fact I wanted to ask you brandy if if Does it really work? From my experience yes, it works whether it's permanent or not is a whole another story turning on each individual case But in the cases that we've done we've cleared it for the time being that I'm aware of And I put more I put more stock in the priesthood using the priesthood right absolutely and just do our large audience I don't want to get too in depth on the religious scope of things Just because different people have so many different religious beliefs in that In that particular vein, but I would actually agree with you with that one lurch.

Um, I agree I'm just gonna add a really quick two cents in here I think it has a lot to do with faith And if you're not of the mind where a priesthood blessing what you would have faith in it But you would have faith in a more holistic thing that that's gonna work for them a little bit better And that's kind of where I met with this thing is I know based on past cleanliness that we've done having brandy there having be who's also a medium Caden who I also work with You know from what they've told me and I trust them I know that the stuff works as brandy said, I don't know that it's a permanent fix But it helps and so in reality when we approach these things we kind of use all these things and as Dan said I think part of it is also a mindset from the homeowners So if they're fretting about shazrack the undying in their living room if they think that we've kicked out shazrack the undying by doing these methods You know to an extent it does kick out shazrack But in their mind if that faith the shazrack is gone shadrack is gonna stay more gone than if they're Refreading about shadrack after we leave And you also have to kind of look at some of the circumstances in each of the houses Like they might be dealing with issues that aren't resolved and I think that's part of the problem as well And it's not going to resolve itself It's going to temporarily relieve the situation go unless they make personal changes in their life It's gonna keep happening See I've noticed that when I do residential I try to get the homeowner to talk because you don't want to walk in and say hi So you've got spirits and you don't do play with Ouija boards You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you don't want to start questioning them But if you start talking to them like this one we went to an equal mountain We started talking to the gal and she told us some things not that she had done but again some people that she associated with and She was actively distancing herself from that you sniffing your pot there Gary your cannabis Your it's not pot it's basal Dental stevils tobacco Maybe you got crap in your life you're gonna have spirits And that's also kind of the crux of things as no matter how many clean things no matter how many religious rights you do They keep something out if someone's got some bad juju for lack of a better term going on their life They got something that's not on up and up something that's helped invite this stuff in Until they're willing to address that something they are going to continue up problems and this kind of cleansing actually really is just a band-aid That may work for a week two weeks three weeks But eventually things will come back I'm sorry. I'm a little distracted by uh, chims uh tummy sword the long hard object he's holding ten. You want to play tummy sticks I'm trying to cleanse myself So I've said I needed a salt bath. I'm trying to do it the driveway as part of my As part of my cleansing kit I brought in some of my favorite rocks and two are I'm playing with your rocks Yes, Tim is playing with your Rod Okay That's why he has the cancer he has not the black ball Tim has got a black obsidian ball in one hand and he's got a chunk of rose quartz about the size of a fish to another hand And then he's got a selenite rod between the two of them That's about 14 inches long and probably about an inch and a inch and a half and whip Um, and he's fashioned a makeshift mineral penis out of it I guess I I'm a little intimidated To be completely honest.

Um, so now we've kind of covered that now I actually I Agree with all your points. I think you're like sometimes you're a new residential your part investigator part Clinician part part counselor to see what's going on with the family Yes, and the frustrating thing is when we do a cleansing and it lasts for two weeks three weeks a month Ever long it lasts and sometimes it lasts longer than other times It's frustrating especially when you kind of know some of the background of what's going on and you know that until something's changed Nothing's gonna change. Yep. Um, and I know that sounds really What's the word?

I'm gonna get rid of your crap. We're gonna have other crap in your house Right in fact one of the things we're gonna talk about is we can't use air elementals and I'm gonna share a little story with air elementals Um, they'll kind of explain why they're there and what happened and anyway, let's delve into the kit Um, so first thing I took out that lurch was making fun. He's got a great big container of basil It's about 3.6 ounces, which is actually a pretty good size container if if you're thinking cups like measuring cups in your kitchen It's probably what the end two two and a half cups three three cups Um, now basil is commonly used in cleanseings and Italian food and Italian food I'm not gonna lie. I actually can do part of this cleansing can contain salt and I have occasion rate of my cleansing kit for salt when I realized that I'm out of salt Um, so basil is it's an herb that's been used for centuries.

Uh, cragney fum It's herb. It's an ancient. It's herb americans. Say herb.

Well americans are stupid. It's herb Herb is a guy. There's a man's name harvey in the love bug. It is a plant a spice It's been used for centuries and cragney fum wrong because i'm not catholic but the catholic church has used this for a very long time Isn't that crick ready?

Yes, but it's you've been used in exorcisms things of that nature. Um, spirits don't like it Or let me rephrase that evil spirits don't like it. Um, a lot of times with this that people are having a lot of really graphic violent dreams Which are usually influenced by evil spirits. Um, and let me back up and say not all nightmares are from evil spirits, but some people who have had problems Have some At a case up in heber that I've talked about and the guy was having these dreams of murdering people and disobelling people and didn't really super ultra graphic real dreams.

I'm having dreams of murdering Deanna if she wants to stop coughing She's clearing her throat like every two minutes Time to this You need to switch to filters. Do you want to go grab one of those six-year-old energy? No, because I get the sleep last night either Um, just kidding. Yeah, go ahead and keep clearing your throat.

It's not gonna bother me It's bothering me So on a case like that, I would recommend that somebody take this basil and sprinkle it around their bed Um, on some cases I put it under between the mattress and the box spring Um, and also when we do a cleansing will actually sprinkle this across door thresholds to kind of bar you know Once we've cleared a room out sprinkle it across the threshold walking it to keep it can work your way back out of the front Um, on instances where we run into portals, uh, huck and handfuls of this into a portal assault will actually close the portal Uh, the first time I was told this by another medium, um, I thought it sounded really foolish and silly She goes, well throw some basil and salt in the time like yeah, right Now you're standing at the top of the stairs throwing basil and salt down the stairs feeling like a complete idiot Yeah, and so I actually went to the home where I'm like, you know, salt and basil This would be for actually had a cleansing kit and they're like, yeah So I grabbed a handful of salt and basil and I started hucking handfuls of salt and basil Into this portal and like yan said I said stop the stairs feeling like a complete idiot I'm hucking the stuff down the stairs and Bea who's with me goes. Oh my gosh, what are you doing that? Portal's like totally sliming shut? Um, and so it can be effective.

It doesn't work on all portals, but it does work Unmost to close them. Um, so basil is like one of those staples that and I've got tons of basil I've got probably four or five of these uh Humongous things of basil and we go through quite a bit of it actually That's one of those things that we use on almost every investigation Now, I'm just actually reaching randomly to the spags so things might not come out in a particular order So we may jump around just FYI Jump up jump up and get down Next in the bag is black pepper just like you would put on mashed potatoes or scrambled eggs or meat turkey Black pepper is one that is kind of specific to a specific type of spirit Tim mentioned an arylmental at family tree Black pepper if it's mixed with vinegar for whatever reason arylmental and I have no idea why this works But they do not like it So if someone's got an arylmental going on in their house He makes a black pepper and some vinegar put up little cups to get in the room And it makes for not very happy arylmental. They don't care for it I have a question. What about like essential oils?

What about like diffusing or using like essential oils in place of those ingredients? Like could you use sage oil or could you use black pepper oil or is that gonna work do you think? I've never tried it but I wouldn't say no. I imagine it could In fact, I want to say somebody told me that or I've read the sage in oil form does work I don't think it's as effective but I have heard that it works Then you can get that in diffuser's at spiritual type stores Yeah, so I would say yes, but that's kind of speculation and something I read somewhere once I read a lot and so I forget my mind.

I put almost as much stock into essential oils as I do into your cleansing kit there, so. So you don't like the tara? I'm not mentioning your names because I actually work at a call center right now for one of the above mentioned I didn't say don't tear I just I just I just use live liveliness Let's call it going to be that we're gonna get liveliness regular for his new job. I hate my new job, man Dan's right it's temporary while I'm in school.

You can come work with me at Danny They started 17 an hour. So black pepper black pepper don't use it very often But I don't have to work over time. Okay, now. Do you want to tell is there a way to tell if it's an air elemental without a media telling you?

And what is an air elemental? Okay, both are very good questions First off In English To answer to the answer to the answer questions, not necessarily I don't know that's the kind where it's nice to have a caden or a brandy or a bee that says hey I think this is what this is And then you start pulling out the bag of toys and see what effect it has and that kind of confirms what you have And I'll tell you a story about an air elemental But before I do I'm pulling up this item which is also another item that's useful for air metals That's a candle for whatever reason air elementals do not like fire And so if you can light a candle that is something they do not like does it have fire Does this have to be wider can be like a black candle? I think it can really be any color you want I don't know that the color is really important so much as fire So if you like light five black candles in the shape of pentagram that's gonna protect you Probably not Story with an air elemental. I actually had a home and I'm still actually really good friends with these people but their daughter Well, let me back up.

They were having some major issues in this home This is actually the home we've talked about where we closed a portal and brandy went Apeship basically and the horses in the field next to us went apeshit and five grown men had told grandi down Mark ripped his pants. There's only four of us, but you know 500 well four is invisible guy Anyway, yeah, and mark ripped his pants out. He could just walk like 20 yards around the fence Yeah, that was the best part of climbing over it But in this picture to her house I kept having issues and I was talking to this other medium friend of mine She's living the area anymore and She was kind of telling me about different elementals and what they do and what they like and don't like kind of thing And she said well air elementals don't like this and then she goes but they're really rare and they're usually brought in by a major betrayal of trust Okay Well, anyway, I got talking to this gal later and she was pregnant at the time and come to find out that she had She was at a small child Anyway talking with the family like Dan said kind of getting a background I actually sat down there said I don't mean to pry, you know, this is all I think lawyers Church officials what you tell me kind of stays between us kind of things what is going on So what I found out as a gal was dating this guy had a child with this guy and they're playing getting married She started seeing another guy during this process and got pregnant from this other guy Left him to go be or left the guy she was playing get married to you'll be at this other guy that she got pregnant with And they were playing getting married. Well in process she went back to the first guy And so do we have a major betrayal of press there?

Why yes, we do. I don't know. That's not legit to me Yeah, and so you know and granted the family's awesome. The scale is really nice Like I said, I'm still I'm still friends with all of them.

And there were some other issues going on there With the husband and house had some issues going on, but there's a lot of Stuff going on that was inviting things into this home. Um, a long story short Another thing that's in my kit that air mentors do not like is iron. Um, and so we put iron in every room in the house We did the vinegar and pepper thing and the daughter's apartment. We were able to actually cleanse it She hasn't had any issues since there's still issues at the house Not nearly as bad as they had been before but again there as we've talked about earlier in this podcast There's some life issues going on.

What do you use for iron is a pie right? I actually use iron pie right just because it's easy to find it's cheap It actually is not hideous so you can put it on a shelf and it looks kind of cool. It doesn't look stupid It looks like full school. It's cool.

It's cool. I know I've just got it. That's where it looks just like full school Um, okay, Gary. Yes, so what is an air elemental?

Oh, thank you. I've missed your question Um, and I know we've touched on this just a little bit in other episodes Um, we've talked about the three types of spirits. There's type ones which are just human spirits There are type twos which are melodulant human spirits and they're usually under the Inkahoots with under control of It's interesting because we ran into different types and brandy can confirm this because she's the one who usually is there to translate for us Um, some are willfullyinkahoots with type three spirits, which are evil in human spirits Some are more or less threatened by forced into coerced into being type two spirits by evil spirits And the type three are basically inhuman spirits demonics angels have been cast out of heaven However, you want to define them. That's what they are as far as what an air elemental is versus just a standard demonic spirit There's really not a huge difference.

It's just a type of demonic spirit Uh, I don't know or understand enough of the hierarchy of those type of spirits I don't know that any of us truly will until we kill over dead and can actually See these things. Um, do we do we know what the differentiating factors are? I mean, why would you say something would be an air elemental as opposed to just a demon demonic spirit? What makes you think it's how they behave?

Um, they tend to behave differently than just a standard demonic spirit and a elemental for instance, um, and those that this is the one I'm most familiar with um, an elemental for instance, they tend to be heard through uh Fans hair dryers anything that conveys air Um, they'll often speak through those which was kind of a clue with that particular family because when they were using the blow dryer or like the Events in the car they would hear voices or threats. So There is no day no only zool Um And so that's kind of how you differentiate those uh earth elemental for instance, uh, and I have not really dealt with many of those Uh, but if there's an earth elemental in the home you generally look for rocks Somebody's brought some kind of rocks into the home that has got an attachment. Why these spirits are different than regular demonic spirit? I don't know Um, I They look different also My guess is as good as yours, but they're all the same type of evil spirit that has Well, you look at you never been human You look at humans and you know, we're different There's the people that are outdoors and you know, there's people that are nerdy and I don't mean this in a rude way, but you know There's different factions you could probably take everybody on the planet and put them into and I'm just you know I'm guessing five or six very broad categories and that might be roughly the same sort of a deal Well, and I would even venture to go a step further and if you assume that every living thing has a spirit, um Let's say that dogs have spirits cats have spirits deer have spirits They're all spirits, but they're all different dinosaur type spirits Exactly.

So let's say that if And again, I'm in pure speculation mode here But who's to say that an elemental spirit is not a different? I'm using an air quotation series species of spirit But it's all a demonic spirit that all hate our guts. They all wish us ill But for whatever reason these particular spirits have an affinity to air earth fire Um, just whatever kind of elemental it is actually ran across to that investigation. What was some kind of almost an electrical elemental?

Um, where you want investigation with this Dan? Um, it was Cleves house the last time he went. I know Alec was there No, I didn't go there But there was actually what kaden described as kind of an electrical elemental Which is interesting because it would be consistent with a lot of the disruption to electrical equipment that he sat in his house Um, that I know about that kaden had no idea about prior to going in Um, so let's move on with the bag of fun stuff Next item out is a sprayer, which is awful. Well, there's anything I've got a better sprayer Do you want to talk about sprayers for a minute?

Yeah, um, during the course of the cleansing what you'll do is you'll salt the perimeter of the home All except for one opening and which opening that it doesn't matter because what you're going to do is you're going to start at the back of the home Um, and just push everything out through this cleansing process Push push push push push push push push and then you'll push it out Whatever You know the front door the back door the garage door whatever it may be And then when you do that final step then you'll put the salt and basil and seal it the house Um, we were using a sprayer once in a home and it broke And so um silent Don and I were somewhere with that. Hey, I'll keep up. Hey, let's get one of those you know, the weed sprayers weed sprayers are awesome Because then you don't get cramped with the hand by squirt because houses are big And so even though the houses are big when you're using the spinner So basically the idea with that why are you eating my black salt? Tasting it gives you cancer, right?

Just like a way um And so the idea with the sprayers if you mix salt water and it basically makes a Salt barrier like an impenetrable Salt of salt barrier because salt is dissolved in the water and so if you salt the perimeter of the house the baseboards etc You create that barrier. Hey now and why is salt important? Hey, I will tell you Um kind of the general consensus is salt is a pure substance and evil spirits can't cross a pure substance It's a preservative. It's pure substance.

Um, it's actually mentioned in the bible Where they were told to throw salt to spring that was inhabited by an evil spirit and to cleanse the spring And so there's actually scriptural uh reference and I don't have the actual scripture here on hand But I did look it up and know that it does exist because I heard that this is the old testament to say Um, I want to say old testament if I recall properly Um, I'm currently reading that if I find it all Old testament it took me four years to get through the good luck. Yeah, it's a rough book a lot of begats I I think a lot of uh A lot of laws of Moses. I might have skipped a lot of begatings too because it was they're like pages and pages I'm currently a pot of first life. If you have a hard time sleeping just open up the old testament read like a couple verses And you'll be out cold.

Okay. Another kind of salt we use is Hawaiian black salt Um and it's kind of cool. It looks like salt. It's like pitch black And when you salt your baseboards you don't want to use the Hawaiian black salt because your baseboards will be black Yeah, it'll turn the water black.

Um, so when would you use the black salt versus the white salt? Generally when it comes to the black salt we do a pinch just inside each door jam Um and your windowsills what you want to do is you want to salt every Opening to your home. So toilets sinks the drain in your utility room. What's the benefits?

What's the benefits of using black salt instead of white salt in all honesty? I can't give you a good answer on that That's right. That's cool. It's it's just it was how I was taught by somebody who does cleanseings And uh sometimes I use it sometimes I don't it just depends on what it is we're doing if it's a house that's having a lot of problems I'll break out the black salt Having color salt son.

I've got white salt. I've got black salt. We think salt is awesome Yeah, so I have in the kit. You can see there's not very much in there I go through tons of the white salt.

Um, I use very little black salt just because I don't know what the difference is I haven't really seen any difference, but I do have it in case I need it and so I will bunch of community white salt by white salt by the sea salt bucket loads Um actually I've been told it doesn't really matter what kind of salt it'd be. I'd eyes to be mortons Um, but generally I try and not use the I'd eyes just because I'm not exactly so I try and stick with sea salt or just salt salt Um, I try not to get too crazy with it. Sorry for the pauses. I reached anything in the back Next thing we have Metal bells and I actually have two of these I have my kit I spent all day one day going from antique store to empty store looking for metal bell because I'm not well I wasn't a hurry exact like a today shipping Amazon crime.

Yeah, but it was like a And then UPS brings it to the door. It's like Santa in fact I want to say it was like cleansing the same night and so I needed a bell like now before I could get it from Amazon So I went all over the place all over God's we're looking for a bell And I finally found one and it's like a bell that attaches to the top of the door And then like six months later as a hobby lobby and some there for like two dollars So I'm able to pay for my crappy bill But it's an antique dammit For whatever reason this is what we possessed this is one that brandy's my bill possessed Okay, brandy's my bill is not possessed The bell is one that we've used a lot and that's one that seems to be very effective Now this is one if I can interject I used to think that of everything we did I could kind of wrap my head around the salt and the basil and and everything And the more you do this the more it kind of sinks in but the bell was what got me Um because they say That the evil spirits don't like the bell and I just thought it's a bell how can I like a bell But when they did that scary scary one out in twillah where the guy was in the fetal position when they were ringing the bell Even though I wasn't there just hearing that story. I thought all right, so that kind of made me more of a believer My man give your daughter a bell for five minutes and you won't like one either Well, I kind of was ticked off after castle rang it in the microphone for two seconds. So there you go And I've got a theory on the bell And take this theory with a grain of salt or a grain of black salt if you will Lurch already took a couple grains.

So he's good And the indigestion sits in The theory behind the bell for me I was listening to an expert once some of these my air quotations an expert On coast to coast and it was a guy who's talking about frequencies and that basically everything in the universe operates on a frequency The earth vibrates in frequency u vibrators frequency. I vibrate a frequency everything vibrates in frequency rocks trees everything The theory is is that More holy things are on the higher end of a frequency spectrum and the darker things are the lower they vibrate at a frequency So the theory being is that a bell a metal bell vibrates at a very high frequency whereas something that's dark and evil vibrates at low frequency And so it actually is painful for that super high frequency to be there I don't know if I explain that theory in any way shape or form that makes sense. It's like a dog whistle Thank you. It's like a dog whistle for saying I believe that because I think you have mentioned before that I can feel male spirits a lot easier than female spirits And who's to say that male spirits don't just vibrate a little differently?

You know that I can't feel them just because the way I read things I just can't feel the females as well because we vibrate the same I feel females all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel I'm right?

I when I when I get out my toys. Yeah, I can feel my rate. Oh dear You just want to know what to do with that. I'm a lot of words.

Um next in the bag is white sage Um, I also have a some blue sage in here. Um white sage is a an herb It's like a really cheap cigar herb. You know Randy you can call it a herb if you talk with your British accent If you're gonna talk with your American accent, it's an herb It's queens English and the queens English came before American English to say I'm American America White sage is something the native Americans have used for centuries upon centuries to do spiritual cleanseings This is one that basically and I look at brandy when I ask questions that I want to make sure I'm correct on She laughs No spirits like sage good spirits bad spirits all spirits think sage is kind of gross Annie doesn't mind sage Annie doesn't mind sage I'm getting popped a page by nine or what do you want? So with my sage I have blue and white sage I bought both of them infused with lavender which is supposed to help even more with negative spirits like calming relaxing Yeah, I know that from essential oils Sorry, I was distracted by the name of the animal I hate my job right now.

I really do don't work it down And I've actually heard that lavender essential oil works just as good as like lavender Incense and things of that nature, which we'll talk about in a minute white sage though most spirits don't like it And so stuff that will drive out a evil spirit like a bell won't affect a normal type one spirit Doesn't really bother most type two spirits, but white sage usually drives out most other spirits Yeah, I've used it in my home and it's Annie doesn't particularly hate it or like it But she won't stay around until after I'm done and then she'll come back And so I if you had to limit my cleansing kit to four items It would be salt basil white sage in the bell It keeps age in my car. So whenever we go do an investigation That's like darker entities at it like family tree or fear factory. I actually staged my car before I leave Two things that I also carry and these actually have no And that's that's a different feather used to have a wild turkey feather This is a figure like some uh indian beads. Do you have an extra feather?

I need a feather. I've got a feather. It's blue Is it one of those long turkey feathers that don't do anything? You're fake feather this feather was actually an event winning Now this feather Is uh was given to me by cleave ovens and it's actually alfancy and it's wrapped in leather and got beads And then I also have an abalone shell mouth these items have no Actual spiritual significance as far as it goes the feather basically you can use it to waft the white sage smoke around The abalone shell is just great to put it in so you don't burn your hands so you can set it down And the catches and they just look cool and it catches the ashes and oftentimes if you're at a spiritual store or amazon Um, you can get kind of a little kit where it comes with the abalone shell and the the sage and then wafting feather Um another item in my kit.

Um, and this is one where I am going to have to side heavily with lurch Um, I have been told by those who do cleanseings that cinnamon sticks and dried orange peels simmered on a stove muscle. What's that? Plassel kind of it smells really good. It makes your house not really nice, but I've told that it drives out negativity I have no basis to brandy shaker head.

No, and so I This is probably the most skeptical item. I'm skeptical of in the kit, but it's in there Um, and usually if I'm doing a cleansing at home, I'll throw some on a stove some cinnamon and some orange pills and I brought you some more I know I saw that a great bag of um, so it's one of those things that I haven't really seen any actual firsthand benefit So and I've had people tell me that yes, it works and thank you so much and I wonder again how much of that is psychosomatic Yeah, it's the orange pill thing is just one that I'm kind of yeah I don't know that I buy into it. This is great. I haven't cleaned this kit out for a long time another bag of black salt Install to salt.

I just looked it up by the way. It's just Different colors have different mineral properties And then they make they make food taste different, but that's about it And that kind of comes back to the next thing is the mineral properties Um, I keep a lot of stones in my kit. Um, I talked about Tim already playing with my Obsidian ball the long white staff. I've got a another fist-sized chunk of obsidian.

Is that clean by the way, Brandy? Okay, I got another chunk of obsidian that's about fist-sized um obsidian Ethereum absorbs dark and negative energy. Uh, this is one that brand that I've had several different mediums tell me it works So I buy into it. I keep I guess I've got a big obsidian ball that he was playing with I got a big chunk of natural obsidian about fist-sized that I keep in the kit and if I'm gonna do a cleansing or if someone's having some issues I'll usually break these out like yan said the family tree.

She was hugging up on this piece of obsidian. I've got my hand No, salonate. I thought you said okay. I might have said obsidian, but it was the salonate I think you did say salonate.

Uh, another thing I keep is uh, it's a black tourmaline wand and by wand It's not like a Harry Potter like ta-da. I've got two magic rooms. They can't kind of wand It's just a piece of black tourmaline that's been cut and shaped so it's like a long piece Now the theory behind black tourmaline is it supposedly draws out negative energy So if somebody if Brandy was losing minutes like a run-up behind Brandy and hook her in the back with this and in theory it should suck out the dark joo-joo's Um, you wanna put me in the back with that huh? With your wand?

Dear this episode has gone so far south. Just looking the back door and um, and so I Oh, let's start this wedding. Show back back a track. Oh, let me see your wand.

Can I see your black wand? I need to call him down. You want a black wand? I want to put his black wand on my hand Uh, and so I keep the black tourmaline in there for that person.

He has a bigger black or wand Awesome filter just had melt down Wow, okay, and then Jim says penis He's got three white ones now and they're smaller. Well, they're about the same. They're skinnier, but they're damn it Size matters. I don't care what women what women tell you that they're slightly longer Um, but these are three or yeah three selenite wands and I'm using my quotation air quotations Uh, and selenite is used to cleanse things it draws energy out They repel as opposed to absorb it So for instance if and what I asked a few minutes ago if this check up city and it was clean because the obsidian actually will Absorb dark energy if I just take this obsidian and set it in a basement of family tree for like a week brought this out it would be Dirty it would be check full of thank you for saying dirty dirty bread.

It would be very very dirty It would be check full of dark negative energy and so I can actually use the selenite To cleanse it or I could sit it out in the sun for an afternoon Yeah, it's pretty amazing. I have a little piece I carry with me all the time to keep my other stones clean I've got a lot of selenite. I've got a huge selenite wand that Tim has been using too and when I say wand again, I'm not talking Harry Potter I'm not talking to the magic. I'm talking.

It's just a long slender piece. I think someone's over compensating for something That piece of selenite is you You've got more white ones than black ones racist Moving on Oh, I see you put the black one in a pouch We're no good see it, but you got the white one sitting out for everyone to see huh the white ones didn't come with a pouch. Thank you It's like it's like the olives at the store. You got the black ones in a canby got the green ones and glass jars people see it All right, you guys keep talking like you can think deeper into the other crystals that I use or that I bought is the quartz Which helps promote positive energy and then the amethyst Yeah Tell us about those Um amethyst I bought a whole bunch of amethyst because those are ones that I will give to clients to to help propel stuff negative stuff And then just the ones that you talked about the selenite the um apache tears obsidian, there's a million of them What I would do is if you're interested in that um There's a crystal bible.

I have I have in fact that very crystal bible right there That's on the on the couch But just look up on google and you know put you know stones that repel energy or absorb energy I actually carry both I carry some that repel and some that absorb um and just read when it comes to stones It's really personal you really shouldn't have someone else buy them for you You're supposed to go and touch them yourself and like kerry potter since that's kind of our vein and top of quad magic room That was awful by the way Um, you know the one chooses a wizard silly as that sounds the stone chooses a person You kind of want to handle them and they kind of talk to you I'm trying to speak with a cockney agitate I've got a magic broomstick. I've got a magic broomstick. Chew you. Oh, right.

Oh, if you want talking about a check we will Okay, I love governor. All right. Let's move on. Okay.

You know we don't really see that right Throw another shrimp on the barbie Yeah, you're half Australian half. Okay, so speaking of for the love of god Some religious items that we have uh brandy's grandfather is actually a deacon is that okay if I talk about that? Yes, okay He's a deacon in the catholic church and so brandy is provided us with some holy water that we use in the kit And then I also have some blust anointing oil, which is which he's blust and provided for us Um, and then I also carry a rosary in the kit which brandy provided And I don't use this probably as much as I should but I have given these to people who don't who are having issues Um, for instance the gal with air elemental, uh, I gave her rosary And they actually she's been doing very very well. Um, her family not as much Uh, they've been doing better than they initially were but she's been doing very well since she got out of the house since we've got rid of what had Had been with her.

Um, the other thing we keep with us is This is not consecrated, but I do keep a container of olive oil Um part of the cleansing process is we have the homeowner or somebody generally associated with the home if possible go through and just With regular olive oil and we usually mix it with a Salt and basil, uh, we put a little bit of base when it not salt, uh, and we'll mix a little bit of holy water into it You know, I like to marinate pork chops a little bit of olive oil with some basil with some basil So there's no evil spirit pork chops. Thank you for getting the trickinesses. It's the uh, what was it that jesus uh, cast me to the pigs? Um, he cast out of the pigs.

No, he cast the spirit out of the man. Oh into the big set of it. Hey, you gotta forgive her. She's going to be old testament I know seriously Legion, legion.

He cast legion out of the guy into the pigs and the pigs went crazy and went through the stuff. The clif. jumped off the cliff exactly so You don't need for it. So you know how you said if you only had four items and then you rattle them off I think you have to have five items.

I think you have to have the olive oil But jesus was jos sure I created yeah, but I said if I had to have four items and if I'd have five then all the way would be my fifth Correct. All right now. We're getting kind of the bare bones bottom of the bag so to speak. Um, you have your pendulums in there?

I Lighter there's just some of the laws and ends like pendulum lighter. Um, One thing I do keep in here is I do keep some uh incense, uh, particularly Uh, for when he goes to the bathroom. Yeah, can I use your bathroom at the sequencing? I'm gonna do my incense my incense partner And 30 minutes alone.

Um, now you know how it's what the hell's wrong with you. You know how I said it down, man. You know how I said it. Don't know how to Are you done?

And there's motley I'm watching the guy over there and it's killing me. Oh, what were you saying? I was just saying that you know how I said I don't put a lot of stock in that the pendulum especially is at the very top my list of things that I don't believe have any effect Okay, I didn't believe in the pendulums either until I did chakra cleaning. Yeah, but it's so easy to just like get minute Uh muscle movement and to try to coerce it's been a certain way or I mean there's there's too many variables.

I just I don't Sorry, I don't buy it. Um, did you lay an egg? That egg is actually black onyx Um, which also works similar to obsidian. Is that how you got the ball cancer?

No, I actually got an anal beam It is actually that's why it's black Um And that is actually only about a week old. I got that about a week ago I'll take things castle puts up his butt for five and please I look see here's the deal is I watch brandy walk into enough sprinklers Uh that any kind of black cleansing stone I only walked into the sprinklers once yeah Well, but I've seen enough similar instances as has lurch as has tim that any kind of black cleansing stone that I run across that is interesting I am going to buy and so next time it happens. I'm gonna you're gonna get stoned with black crystals Why do you think that I bought her? I'm not very mad to win so I they don't want to get stoned She'll get stoned in a different way.

Um, it's not how we investigate I leave him speechless. No, I bought her the obsidian cross the rainbow setting necklace the obsidian bracelet Like she's got like four or five different pieces of shiyan that she carries with at least two of them with her investigation Well, I'm a tight is good too. And I'll honestly and I carry a little pouch of different stones that have different things and like I said I with the stones I've become more of a bleeper than I used to be but for me with all of this stuff For me the religious aspect of things which I'm not gonna get into a whole lot here trumps kind of everything But I'll still use everything um, but I put the most weight in the religious end of things Um, but the stones have actually gained some legitimacy with me more so than when we first started using them Um, and really the reason I have all those cleansing stones, um, is because I've seen enough people get Walloped for lack of a better word on investigations that I would like to have Any means necessary to help them out for instance if Ashley lunges at me and says quit eving talking to me at the family tree I've got I don't have to take brandy stuff to give to her to help her I can go delve into my own kit to help Ashley so that I'm not looking brandy defenseless An interesting to think about with the stones and the old testament He speaks is you get into that is the breastplate of iron which had 12 different stones embedded in it So there is some precedent in the judaeo Um, histories about stones, you know, and I would probably and I would run a kind of long-source time It's getting close time to wrap it up, but I've got a very dear friend who is a seminary teacher He actually has studied and knows Hebrew Um, he actually on his time off he goes up to he's LDS LDS LDS Center teacher He goes up to church office buildings works our part time translating Different documents and going through archives working on, you know church history book type of stuff very very knowledgeable man Probably one of the most knowledgeable men I know Uh, but with the relationalist stuff because I've had a lot of in depth conversations with him on these things and he says when it comes down He goes the stuff that we do know from a religious standpoint is so minute to what is actually in this world, um, and so I think there's a lot of stuff that actually has meaning has precedent has Uh, well, not precedent but legitimacy that we just are either unaware of or have written off Um, that actually works and why it works. I don't know.

Um, I don't know that we will know this lifetime while some of these things do what they do but Again for the most part they seem to work even if it's on a bandaid level And so, you know, if it works, why does card it is kind of The tactic I would take with it Say look at everybody in the room looking at the blake stairs like I'm a mad man. I'm not looking at you We're listening intently to your wise words. I'm staring at my hands. I'm not like It was like, why would he quit talking What would he quit talking?

What would he think that every week? I was gonna say like if you're planning on stoning someone with these you're doing it wrong because The stoning was they took big-ass rocks and they put it on top of you and crushed you to death It depends on what kind of stoning they're those throwing stones at people But anyway, it's boring. So in reality, I know there's something from a religious standpoint We'd have a hard time with a lot of this stuff and to be honest with you when we initially started doing this and when this angle of it was introduced to us I know there was a lot of skeptically raised eyebrows Oh, the first time I basil stuff, I felt like an absolute idiot Well, the first time I ever did, I think I was with you was an alert At the house in Riverton Yes And when it was all going on, I was kind of like, what the hell are we doing? That's how I still feel And You should give him the water bottle from now on Yeah, alert alert to just volunteer for the water bottle And even in the house in Riverton, that was it Like we talked about before, it was a bandaid, it was a temporary fix But there was, you know, and I can tell you what the exact issue is in that home the way that particular spirit keeps Has come back Well, if you just paint a few more eyes of Horace on the wall, it's not the problem And I should probably, before we- That was sarcasm I know, just in case Well, that's what this was Um Before we, and I should probably, you know, we keep talking about these houses that are bandaids and keep having issues For the houses that we talk about that have problem after problem after problem For each one of those, there's probably six or seven that we go there once, deal with the problem Take care of it and we hear from them never again, uh, type of thing Um, the ones that continue to have problems, I can probably count on one or two hands with fingers left over Um, and again, there's deeper rooted issues that entail those deeper rooted issues or addressed Um And then there's houses that we go to where the, uh, owner is so far gone that we're like, we're out of here, we're never coming back, you're like There was that home, um, you know, and I'll be- It's more for our safety than home I'll be honest with you, there's one home where someone contacted us to investigate when they told us what was going on at the home and what A member of their family was doing, it was a girlfriend whose boyfriend was deeply into, uh, Black Magic Satanism and was actively conducting rituals in the home and wanted to come Fix the house and fix things in the house and I just flat out told her Sorry, we can't get involved because until, you know, if he's actively doing that in the home, there's absolutely nothing that we can do Is that the one where, uh, Brandy Svergad straight up told her if you go to the house, you will die?

Yes, that would be the house. Uh, and I mean, in reality, no matter what you do, if you go to the house to cleanse it and somebody in the house is actively conducting satanic rituals, performing Black Magic, things of that nature I don't care where you are. That's pretty far gone. There's nobody, uh, even from a religious standpoint, there's nobody on this earth that is going to be able to fix that problem because the minute you walk out the door, even if you fix it, the minute that person starts doing their thing again All the bad juju that you got rid of is going to come right back in just about as quick as a that left if not more so So that was kind of a sobering episode, wasn't it?

Yes, it was. Especially in the end. Um, before we close for the night, um, again, please go donate to our indiegogo. We will love you.

Dearly in fact, I'll send Tim to give you some personal loving, uh, if you donate. I probably like play the clip from the Little Rascals movie where the kids are like, we need your money! Um, oh, I did promise an EVP though. Um, so before we...

You should play the awesome arrow element. Um, oh, there's actually two EVPs. Um, let's play both of them. Hold on just a minute.

Okay, so Spercy DP is the one that I found at Off-Rideway Theatre. Uh, and it's interesting because we had the Ghost Meter Pro out and Chunga was there, I was there, uh, and we were... What is it? No.

No. Put the Funions away. But they're so delicious! They'll be no fun on this show.

You know, you know, like 15 people just... Well, that's a tie-up. Off three of them, we're gonna turn the show off. Off three of them, we're gonna turn the show off.

Okay, so no more Funions, but Funions away. Ready? I'm talking to you, put the bag down. It's on the table.

She was reaching for it, I could see it. Okay. Look at the eyes. Got a little bit of my teeth there.

That was lurch for everybody who didn't miss lurch. Thank god. Well, look at his eyes. They hunger for violence.

All right, here we go, Funions. Okay, so this is Off-Rideway Theatre. We've got the Ghost Meter Pro out asking us your real questions. And it was interesting because we asked, uh, are you male?

And we got to know. Are you female? No. Are you child?

No. Um, and so we're kind of getting like really confusing answers. And you're gonna hear an EVP just dead. So listen.

Did you work here in the theatre? Two for you at one for no? No. Did you work here in the theatre?

Two for you at one for no? No. Did you work here in the theatre? Two for you at one for no?

No. So what'd you guys think of that? What'd you hear? Just dead.

Just dead. I mean, that's a good EVP. That's a good thing. Class A, but yeah, it was just dead.

Which makes sense with the answer for getting the person's like, I'm not a dude or what I'm just dead. And so that was the first EVP. Now we talked a little bit tonight about Arial Mentals. I think we've exceeded Lurch's attention span.

He's like sacked out in the corner playing with his mic. That's not his mic. Whoa. Okay, now here's your god.

He's licking it. That's an amazing flexibility. What's with him licking things? Hey, just remember who he linked your forehead.

First it was a rock. Then it was the scones at Family Tree. By the way, when we're at the Family Tree, they brought a big thing of scones and he looked every single scone to claim it is his. That would stop him.

The only thing that stopped me was when I tried to take the scone, they looked at me. Okay, now we talked a little bit about Arial Mentals tonight. We were at an investigation. Cleve Evan's house and Alec was with us and caught the CBP.

I actually caught the same EVP on my recorder. This EVP is actually- I can do a better picture than that. Come on. Yeah, I'm sticking pictures of work, licking his microphone.

That's what I do. I can tell we've got long because we've exceeded their attention span. Oh, you lose me right when we start. Awesome.

So last EVP for the night, Arial Mental. Kate and I identified an Arial Mental. I brought out the vinegar and the pepper and we caught this EVP. And it's interesting because, again, as I identified as an Arial Mental, but you're going to hear you suck.

And it's going to be kind of drawn out almost windy sounding. So let's listen to that one. Elemental. What was that mean?

It's just a happy monster. Oh, good. Elemental. What was that mean?

It's just a happy monster. Oh, good. Elemental. It was that mean?

It's just a happy monster. Oh, good. That's not like Castle walking up the stairs. Did you hear that?

Yeah. And did you notice it sounded? That sounded a little bit. And it almost sounded female.

Yeah, it did. Had a female sound to it. Let's listen to it one more time. Elemental.

What was that mean? Elemental. What was that mean? It's just a happy monster.

Oh, good. Elemental. What was that mean? It's just a happy monster.

Oh, good. I don't know if it's not a female to me or not. Which location was that? Was that a residence?

This is Cleve Evans house. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we went back there with Caden. Are you sure that wasn't you walking up the stairs?

No, you hear me talking and saying, type of demonic spirit in here. You suck. I just thought you might have been winded. You know, I got the stairs.

You're making fun of me because I'm fat. It makes me sad. It makes me sad. Anyway, we will call that for an episode tonight.

Everybody, thank you for tuning in. We will be back hopefully in two weeks. I know that I have personally got some vacation coming up. Either way, we should be back in two weeks.

We will try and make disruptions as few as possible with the whole not whole cancer thing. The blood hole cancer. The testicle cancer or that? It's not that either.

The blood hole cancer. It's prostate cancer. Thank you. The taint cancer.

It taint the bottle and it taint the balls. I can accept that. How does it check for your prostate cancer? Ask Kenny.

Do they go in through your butthole? Did they stick a cold finger up your butt? I will just say that I will die happy man if no one ever shows her finger up my ass ever again. AIDLEPRO, butthole cancer.

Have a good night, everybody. It's me and Missal. You. You are listening to the Wisps.

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