EPISODE · Apr 15, 2026 · 47 MIN
Clearer Positioning, Better Clients, with Sophie Swinn
from Better Bolder Braver · host Frances Fogel, Cheerleader-in-Chief
In this episode, I talk to coach Sophie Swinn about what can change when you get clearer on who your work is really for, and start building your business accordingly.Sophie shares how her business has evolved over the past year, from questioning whether she could really make coaching work, to developing a more focused offer for CEOs in scaling organisations, attracting higher-value clients, and growing in confidence as a business owner.Together, we explore what clearer positioning actually looks like in practice. We talk about niching without feeling boxed in, using real client language instead of coaching jargon, experimenting with webinars and LinkedIn outreach, and finding a way to use automation without losing the human touch.We also discuss pricing, longer-term retainers, and the internal shift required to stop charging mainly for time and start thinking more seriously about results, value, and fit.This is an honest conversation about visibility, courage, sustainability, and what it can look like to grow a coaching business in a way that is more intentional, more commercially viable, and more aligned with the work you most want to do.In this episode, Sophie and I talk about:how she became clearer about working with CEOswhy niching can make your marketing easier, not harderthe difference between coaching language and client languagewhat she has learned from webinars, newsletters, and LinkedIn outreachhow she thinks about AI, automation, and keeping marketing humanwhy she moved away from six-session packages towards longer-term retainerswhat changed when she began thinking more seriously about pricing and valuehow improv has helped her with visibility, confidence, and getting things wrongthe role of humility, experimentation, and consistency in growing a businessAbout SophieSophie Swinn is a coach who works with CEOs and senior leaders, helping them think more clearly, lead more effectively, and navigate the complexity of growth. In this conversation, she reflects candidly on the mindset shifts, marketing decisions, and business development experiments that have shaped her journey so far.LinksFind Sophie Swinn: www.swinnleadershipcoaching.co.ukFind out more about Better Bolder Braver: www.betterbolderbraver.comIf this episode speaks to where you are in your own marketing journey, please follow the show and share it with a coach who might appreciate it too.
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In this episode, I talk to coach Sophie Swinn about what can change when you get clearer on who your work is really for, and start building your business accordingly.Sophie shares how her business has evolved over the past year, from questioning whether she could really make coaching work, to developing a more focused offer for CEOs in scaling organisations, attracting higher-value clients, and growing in confidence as a business owner.Together, we explore what clearer positioning actually looks like in practice. We talk about niching without feeling boxed in, using real client language instead of coaching jargon, experimenting with webinars and LinkedIn outreach, and finding a way to use automation without losing the human touch.We also discuss pricing, longer-term retainers, and the internal shift required to stop charging mainly for time and start thinking more seriously about results, value, and fit.This is an honest conversation about visibility, courage, sustainability, and what it can look like to grow a coaching business in a way that is more intentional, more commercially viable, and more aligned with the work you most want to do.In this episode, Sophie and I talk about:how she became clearer about working with CEOswhy niching can make your marketing easier, not harderthe difference between coaching language and client languagewhat she has learned from webinars, newsletters, and LinkedIn outreachhow she thinks about AI, automation, and keeping marketing humanwhy she moved away from six-session packages towards longer-term retainerswhat changed when she began thinking more seriously about pricing and valuehow improv has helped her with visibility, confidence, and getting things wrongthe role of humility, experimentation, and consistency in growing a businessAbout SophieSophie Swinn is a coach who works with CEOs and senior leaders, helping them think more clearly, lead more effectively, and navigate the complexity of growth. In this conversation, she reflects candidly on the mindset shifts, marketing decisions, and business development experiments that have shaped her journey so far.LinksFind Sophie Swinn: www.swinnleadershipcoaching.co.ukFind out more about Better Bolder Braver: www.betterbolderbraver.comIf this episode speaks to where you are in your own marketing journey, please follow the show and share it with a coach who might appreciate it too.
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