Clever Carbon with Michelle Li

Michelle Li is the founder of clever carbon. She launched her career in Silicon Valley where she worked for some of the biggest names in tech including Salesforce and DocuSign. A proponent for making sustainability the new norm, Michelle founded clever carbon to help teach people about their carbon footprint in a hip, fun, and relatable way. She is a TEDx and SXSW 2022 speaker on the topic of carbon literacy and believes that a carbon literate society is one where transparency and accountability will flourish and one worth striving for. Michelle joins me on the podcast today to talk about making carbon literacy more accessible and easier to understand. We discuss her experiences at COP27, the 27th United Nations Climate Change conference, and her expectations for COP28 which will be hosted by the United Arab Emirates this year. We also talk about her transition from Silicon Valley to building a nonprofit. And we delve into the controversial topic of personal responsibility vs corporate and governmental responsibility relating to carbon footprints.