Click Here To Kill Everybody

In early 2021, hackers infiltrated the software that controlled the city's water supply in Oldsmar, Florida. Through dumb luck, they caught the intrusion shortly after the hacker tried to poison the city's water.   This hack was part of a growing array of attacks against the Internet of Things, objects that used to operate offline but are now connected to the internet—and therefore vulnerable to hacking. From Wi-Fi enabled tea kettles to cars that can be taken over remotely to knocking power out for entire countries using smart thermostats, the risks are everywhere. We're just lucky there hasn't been an Internet of Things attack that has been on the scale of 9/11 or Hiroshima – yet.   Guests this episode include Bruce Schneier, the author of Click Here to Kill Everybody; Nicole Perlorth, a reporter for the New York Times, Ken Munro, an ethical hacker, and Chris Valasek, a hacker who remotely took over a Jeep a few years ago and now works as the Director of Product Security at Cruise.   To check out Nicole's book, click here: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/this-is-how-they-tell-me-the-world-ends-9781635576061/   To buy Bruce's book, click here: https://www.schneier.com/books/click-here/   And to read about Chris's Jeep Hack as reported in Wired, click here: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/   Pre order Brian's book - https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Corruptible/Brian-Klaas/9781982154097    Support the show on Patreon at Patreon.com/powercorrupts