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EPISODE · Feb 20, 2026 · 11 MIN

Climate OG on how to stay optimistic in a “down cycle”

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“We should be as optimistic as they [Big Oil] are,” says economist, diplomat, key architect of the Paris Agreement, and climate heavy-hitter Laurence Tubiana. Having spent decades navigating the political domain of global climate policy, in this Climate Curious short she dives into why the current “down cycle” of climate action is reflective of fear in the fossil fuel industry and should be viewed with optimism; as well as how the secret to resilience is in listening to the people around you. Finally Laurence shares how the “golden moment” for fossil fuels is coming to an end, and how we can reclaim control over our own future. Recorded live in London in conversation with co-hosts Maryam Pasha and Ben Hurst at Climate Curious Live: The OGs Edition. Join the Climate Curious conversation on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/climatecuriouspod/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@climatecuriouspod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtF6xzNkVIczlDmVcH8FCMA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/10996041/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TEDxLondon Website: https://tedxlondon.com/podcast/ All other links: https://linktr.ee/climatecuriouspod Created by TEDxLondonExecutive produced by Josie ColterProduced by Ben BeheshtyCurated by Deesha ChandraHosted by Maryam Pasha and Ben HurstCommunications by Tara Cooper and Issey Gladston Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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