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EPISODE · May 15, 2025 · 50 MIN

Climate "Realism" = Giving Up - Jeremy Wallace

from Wicked Problems - Climate Tech Conversations

Extended show notes and bonus content at wickedproblems.earth.In this episode of 'Wicked Problems,' host Richard Delevan discusses the shift from climate optimism to defeatism with Jeremy Wallace, a China and climate policy expert at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). The discussion covers various factors influencing this shift, including the influence of political figures like Donald Trump and Tony Blair, and initiatives such as the Council on Foreign Relations' Climate Realism Initiative. Wallace critiques the initiative's approach, examining its reliance on lifeboat ethics and the fallacies it presents. The episode also touches on the historical context of climate debates, the role of China in clean technology, and the political complexities surrounding climate action. Additionally, the episode features a new intro track from the awesome up and coming UK band Suncharmer.00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:24 The Shift from Optimism to Defeatism02:22 Council on Foreign Relations' Climate Realism Initiative03:31 Interview with Jeremy Wallace22:13 The Lifeboat Ethics Debate26:35 Debating Consumption and Population Growth27:07 The Vision of Clean Abundance28:04 Scarcity vs. Sustainable Abundance29:41 Climate Realism and Technological Beliefs31:07 Challenges and Politics of Climate Action Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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