Cloud Storage

Hey guys, welcome to inspect the podcast about web development and tech on the show as usual. You've got myself Kate and I co-host Ado. Hi, how are you? Good, good, bye.

All good. Yeah, so I'm taking the lead on this show. You just put me in that old position. So yeah, this is the crack on with it and see how it goes.

So yeah, this episode, we're going to be talking about Cloud Storage and we'll have an overview of what it is, how it works, the different Cloud solutions we're using, whether it's for personal use, sort of all work and business and stuff. So the big ones out there, we've got Amazon Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive, iCloud, etc. So we'll go over those a bit later. So let's just get into it and just kind of like have a little quick overview about what it is.

So essentially your cloud storage allows you to store your data on hardware in remote physical locations. So that's a part that we don't see and what it allows us to do is access our data and information from anywhere and from any device, as long as you've got an internet connection. So that's essentially the idea. So it's not literally in the cloud in the sky?

No, it's not in the cloud. I just need to be able to come to next. So when this term started being used by everyone in the tech industry, I was thinking like maybe there is something up there and there's some kind of data flying around and it's being stored in some kind of, I don't know, how we find the sky and stuff like that. Yeah, we should just clarify because it might not be obvious to everyone who actually is happening with Cloud Storage.

There's a meme going around as well where it says the cloud is just another person's computer or something like that. Yeah. And basically what it is, isn't it? It's just a server in another location.

Generally that server is going to be a lot better managed than your own PC at home. It's going to have a lot of redundancy in there. It's going to have its own backups and its sole purpose is to store files. It doesn't need a flashy operating system and all these nice monitors and peripherals attached to it.

It's just generally going to be a computer in a box or several hundred computers will change the other. Yeah, and we'll come to that in a second. But this is the thing, it just boils down to the fact that there is a physical machine or a chain of machines that are actually storing all your information. And the term taking up given this thing is cloud computing or cloud storage.

So there's two ways to upload your information to the cloud and you can store it to the data server or you can do it via software or your device. Now we've all got these mobile phones, tablets, laptops, computers, etc. And then we've also got various different types of apps that we use on our phones or on our computers. And what they do is they interface with the cloud storage locations and as soon as we drag and drop something onto that storage on the app, it's sent directly to that server if you like that location.

And then that information is readily available whenever you want it, you can just pick it up. Where you're connected to the internet anywhere around the world, you can just capture it. So those are the two main ways of getting access to your server and the software or your solutions that are out there that we kind of like, that we can use to do that are things like an Amazon Drive Dropbox. They're probably the big ones that everyone knows about.

So I don't know ones that you're using, but I think the main ones that I'm using is Dropbox, Google Drive, and probably one drive as well. Yeah, well, they all offer a slight different service and they all have a different amount of storage that you get included in your in your free account as well. Because obviously with all these cloud storage options, you do need to pay for the amount of space that you use. And most companies do give you something for free.

So I tend to spread my files across a few. My everyday access mainly happens in Dropbox. I actually went away from Dropbox recently when they introduced the new desktop app for the Mac. I don't know if they introduced it for Windows at the same time, but anyway, the Mac version, it kind of took over your open system a little bit and I didn't like it.

So I moved my files away from there with the intention of leaving Dropbox. But then I was using it again at work and I discovered that you can basically turn the new version of the app off and revert it back to how it used to work where it was literally just a folder on your computer, which syncs. So I've put some files back into Dropbox now. I just like the way that it syncs.

It seems to be one of the quickest. It seems to have the least errors. So yeah, that's the one I use for my day to day stuff. And then more long-term storage, I use box because I've got quite a large count with them.

I've got 50 gigabyte account. I think I'm on some sort of legacy account with them. I want to be the deal that's at the time when I signed up and they were giving 50 gigabytes. So yeah, that's crazy.

Yeah, exactly. It's good. Because they only give about 10 now. Yeah, 10 free.

And you must be on a very awful end. Yeah, I've had quite a few years. And I use that mainly as an archive. So old client work.

I've got big storage of fonts on there that I've amassed over the years. And some photos and stuff like that, some larger videos, a store on box. But I don't have that synced with my any of my computers, but Dropbox isn't syncs. So talking about syncs, that's one of the benefits of a cloud storage.

So it's quickly one for the benefits that we've got for cloud storage. So number one, you can access it from anywhere, buy an internet connection. It doesn't matter where you want. There's always going to be a place with these internet connection.

You can use it as an access to data, upload information, download information, very, very easily from wherever you are. Next one, fast and easy access to your data. The interface is very good on the app that you mentioned Dropbox, Box I've seen as well, very easy drag and drop interface. So it's fast and easy.

Anyone can use it without any kind of hassle. Disaster recovery, that's one of the big ones. If you're a physical hard drive or computer, it's always a couple of other cloud. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Automation of them as well. So that's a lifesaver in itself.

I've been burned by that as well. I've got a load of photos of my daughter from age birth to about two, which were all on my NAS drive. And I had two drives in my NAS, my Synology NAS, and one of the drives died. And because of the way I had the raid set up, I couldn't access the second drive either.

So I had to place both right. And I managed to recover some of those files off that, what's it called, the big three and a half inch hard drive. I managed to recover some of those files. And then I moved them all onto a portable Western digital drive.

So I would say I recovered about 85, 90% of the photos, which is good. Put them on this Western digital drive, put it away in a drawer for about two years, came back to one day, and that's it. It's completely unreadable. So in the end, I lost them all.

I've still got that drive. Hopefully that one day that, you know, I'll find some sort of data recovery service. You can find them. So I don't know if you know of any good data recovery services.

But since then, I basically don't store anything on physical drives now. Everything goes into the cloud, either in Google Photos or iCloud or Dropbox or something, or multiple areas actually. I've got things in multiple locations. Well, that's it.

It just makes sense. And obviously we don't even know about this. That came across a research and this topic was the movie Toy Story 2, I don't know if you know about this, but basically what happened was someone, one of the engineers that put in a delete command on their system, right? And accidentally deleted every single scene shot, the movie up to the point it was, everything, everything wiped off.

And no one had any kind of backup. It was no backup kept anywhere off site. So everyone was kind of lost, like, crap. We've literally lost Toy Story 2 in its process.

It turns out the director of the movie, she had kept a backup of every single file and she was working on it from home. And then I think off of that, they kind of implemented some kind of full on backup solution. But I don't know if cloud was for the fledged back thing. It might be, I don't know.

But probably an enterprise. You can imagine in that scenario, you're making this big file, how big Toy Story is. And then some media goes and types in the delete command. I'm like, how and why would that scenario happen?

It's crazy. But it happened. And it's a true story. I just came about what I was saying.

I was having to read about it. That's what he's asked the company. Like the guy from Jurassic Park who decided to new computer when he stole the embryos. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yeah. So this also probably is huge. And then you can move on to security. So your server data is distributed across redundant servers and data is stored in a separate hardware failure.

So you've got redundant machines already kicking one machine files, another machine will kick in and help your backup and restore information, snapshots, etc. So that's generally the basis of cloud computing redundant servers working together and backing each other up automation. So the way I've got mine running, I think you've probably got this running the same way. I've got Dropbox or my desktop and I usually work directly from that folder.

So I've got any kind of like files, local websites I'm working on, anything like that, and save any file. It's saved to my Dropbox folder and it syncs automatically. So that's the way I generally work with it. Yeah, pretty much the same.

I mean, for work, we use within the company we use box for all of our storage. So I keep all of my work related work in my box, sync folder. Any personal files I've got, yeah, they're going to Dropbox and then any development work is actually outside of all that. I know there's some people who use Dropbox as their version control.

Yeah, I've seen that as well. Yeah, I haven't gone down that route. I keep my dev work completely separate and then I just let I let Git handle that, handle the backups there. Yeah, it gets another thing, right?

That's another cloud solution there. So you've got version control and that's all stored in the cloud as well. Yeah, basically. It's everywhere.

So moving on to that collaboration is another benefit of cloud storage. So you can have multiple access to the same data at any time. So multiple people can jump on into a folder that you've given them access to if you've got previously set on there and they can upload information to that folder. They can view it to work on documents, files, anything like that in that exactly how we've got set up with our Dropbox folder for inspection.

You know, the way that we work, we both record our audio on our own computers and then when we finish, we both chuck them into Dropbox and then those end up being synchronized onto my laptop eventually and then I pick up those files and then do the final edit and then put the final mp3 in back into Dropbox so that can't be previewed on his side. So it's good workflow and that whole sync process, especially within mp3 at the end, which is only maybe normally under 100 megabytes. It takes about a minute to sync. So that's brilliant.

On our connections that we've got. So it's all very quick, you know, trying to do that without a cloud syncing folder would just be a nightmare really. Yeah, definitely. And then moving on, we've got scalability.

So you only pay for this service you use and that's just, you know, that's just cool in itself. You just, you know, if you start with like 5G, you're probably not going to need a terabyte. 5G is about right. I think it's about right for anyone getting involved in cloud storage.

I think it's probably more than enough. It's a good starting point for your average user. Yeah. For some services, it's a bit small, iCloud gives you 5GB and ideally they should give you enough to backup your phone.

So all the phones are, you know, minimum 64GB now. 5GB of cloud storage is not going to get you very far when you're trying to back your phone up. So I think iCloud is one of the only services that I actually pay for additional storage. Everyone else seems to give you enough to get what you need done.

So pay for 50GB I think on iCloud. That's the thing. My iCloud, I'm not paid for anything. I've just got the 5G that's on there.

And the thing is my, my desktop sort of sync with it, my download solders sync with it as well. And every, every other day I get a note, it's a huge icon. It's full, you know, you pay to increase it and stuff. But I don't really, I don't really use it that much, like directly use it.

And it's just kind of there. I think what I'm going to do is probably just switch it off and just use one of the other solutions that are out there. Because it is very, very limited on the router, not paid for it. It's just, you know.

Well, you haven't got an iPhone. So just probably not worth you paying for it. I mean, if for people in the Apple ecosystem who want to use iCloud to backup their photos and all their settings and so forth, 5GB of that is just not enough. For some people it will be, but I think for anyone who takes a lot of photos or anyone who's in our sort of field of work, designers who want to backup their design files and their assets and stuff like that 5GB is going to run out pretty quick for.

Yeah, definitely. I think we touched on the synchronization side of things that that's a huge benefit. And then the convenience side of things as well. It's just so convenient having it.

If you're taking fear out and about taking pictures, your phones, especially like with Android devices, they're part of the Google ecosystem. So if you're taking any kind of pictures, they're in some sort of synced to your photos, that's just a life-saving situation as well. Because there's a lot of times back in the day where they didn't have any kind of setup like that. It was a case of taking pictures and then your memory gets all used up in the phone.

And then it was a case of going through them as well, which one is all I want to keep and which ones can I delete to free up space. But now you're in a situation where you don't have to write. No, exactly. I mean, especially with Google Photos with the unlimited storage of photos.

And the quality that they store them in is pretty high anyway, unless you're doing some very high high quality prints or large scale branding. I think the size that Google stores them in is more than enough for anybody. Yeah, definitely. I can't believe there's people out there.

I know a few photographers who I had to chat with a guy a few days ago and he was using any kind of cloud solution for backup or anything. Everything's just stored on a local hard drive. And that's an accident. What happened?

Yeah, I think for a photographer who's using say raw files and editing files in Lightroom and so on, or taking files off the computer, it's probably better to have those on a physical hard drive just for speed sake. But there's got to be some sort of backups solution in there somewhere, whether that's to the cloud or to some sort of offsite storage. But yeah, I understand why they're keeping it on hard drive. It's just for the speed of access for these files.

Because if you're making lots of small changes in Lightroom constantly, and those things, those changes are constantly being trying to sync to the cloud. Yeah, then that's where errors can occur. So yeah, that's the one thing with this syncing is that if it's constantly happening automatically, it can sometimes get out of sync. If you're making lots of changes in a short period, they do sometimes need to just let your sync folder settle and catch up with things.

Yeah, I found in I've had issues with Dropbox on my MacBook, and especially when I'm working on design, working schedule, virtual, I think it's mainly more so with virtual with large design files, PSD files. What I find is the sync is so slow, it literally grinds my MacBook to a halt. And the fan is just like as loud as anything, and it's like a narrow panel to take off, and it's all down to the CPU usage of the Dropbox sync, and it's just ridiculous. I've tried to throttle it as well using the settings, but it doesn't sync to work that well.

So that's the only thing with the Dropbox sync. Yeah, in scenarios like that, sometimes what is just pause the syncing for a while. If I know that I'm going to be doing lots of little changes to a file or something, or I'm moving files around within my Dropbox folder, I'll pause the syncing, get everything done the way I want to, and then turn sync back on and then just leave the walk away for 10, 15 minutes and just let it catch up. Yeah, that makes sense.

I'll have to give that a go as well. So, okay, now moving on. Let's talk about, I've got a list here of the big five, the well-known brands. Actually, six list.

Yeah, because Box was an on there, and when I was doing some research, I looked at TechRader and they put Box in there as well. It's not any kind of order, but it was just there as number one. I think Box is more appealing to enterprise. Yeah, I don't know if anyone really who uses Box for their personal cloud storage.

Even I've got an account, but like I said, I use it just for long-term stories, long-term archives. But yeah, go ahead. Let us know what these big six are. Yeah, so this might not agree with this six.

I mean, there might be others out there that I don't know. But these are the ones that kind of, no particular order. Yeah, not particular order. You've got Amazon Cloud Drive up there, and everyone knows your Amazon's.

And so their solution gives you five gigabyte and that gives you an Amazon C-vote as with Prime. So that's a bit of a bonus there. So if you watch any TV shows, anything like that thing, that's part of your package. Next week, I've got Dropbox, everyone knows Dropbox, I've got a business account with them.

That's about 80 to 90 pounds for the year. And I've got up to about one terabyte. I can't remember exactly how much I've got. Yeah, I mean, that's still pretty useful.

Yeah, they're free of options. You're too good about it. And then up to 18 gig with referrals. So just what that means is you just get your friends to sign up with a referral link and increase your storage.

Yeah, I didn't know they still do that because that's the way I've increased my Dropbox account. I've got about nine gigabytes or nine and a half gigabytes. And that was purely through referrals. So before what you used to be able to do was when you create an account, they used to make you perform some basic tasks like a share on Twitter, invite another friend.

There was something like add a public folder or there were little things that, you know, a little checklist of things to get you onboarded onto the service. And they used to give you like 250 megs free for doing those checklists. And yeah, I went to all of them. I managed to score about nine gigabytes of storage.

But yeah, I think they're stopping that stuff now. I don't know if they're still doing it, but I think they're doing it here and there. So I know you get personalized emails from them, depending on your usage and stuff, and then they'll help you to increase it if you do this thing. So that's my Dropbox.

And the next one we've got OneDrive. Now, I've got a lovely relationship with OneDrive. It's the Microsoft solution. You get five gigabytes free and then students get one terabyte.

That's quite a lot, especially for students. Students are going to need that kind of storage space. That's really good. The thing I find with OneDrive is when I first got onto it, I've got the Microsoft Office 365 suite.

And that's all synced up with OneDrive. That's one, the OneDrive is a storage solution for that. So only documents are working on your office suite in a day automatically, save to your OneDrive account. So you've got public folders, personal folders and things like that.

That's out from there. But what I found was, I think I guess it was a couple of years ago, it was very clunky. It wouldn't sink straight away. Some people could see files, some people couldn't.

And when I was working in a team at this time, it was a case of, where's someone so it's proposal? Have you uploaded it to the shared folder? I'm like, yeah, it's there. Have a look.

I can see it. But they couldn't see it. So half an hour later still was in there. So it was a case of re-saving it.

And then it would appear. And yeah, it was just horrible. But I think they've signed it out. And I generally just use it for any kind of Excel spreadsheets or Microsoft Word documents.

Anything that I'm working on in that environment, I just let it say it's actually two or one drive account. And then the OneDrive folder is available in my Microsoft Outlook window as well. So it's just there. It's very easy to get to.

So if you're deep in the Microsoft ecosystem, then it's probably worth having one drive account. Personally, I've never really got on with it. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's just coming from Dropbox being used to the way Dropbox handles things, even on the web.

Because that's the other thing with these cloud storage. Most of them do have a web interface as well. You can view all of the files and interact with them. And I don't know.

I just never really got on with the OneDrive or even some of Microsoft's other apps like OneNote. They all kind of feel a bit the same. So it was once I wasn't really happy with one of them. I found that I wasn't happy with anyone really.

Yeah. The whole kind of thing is they all kind of feel the same. They're very weak. They're lacking something, despite the interface or when you're working with it and using it.

It just feels like something's missing. They feel like Microsoft. It feels like Microsoft. That's the whole thing.

Yeah. But it's worth having an account with them. Because like I said, five gigabytes for free terabyte for a student. It's just another thing as that USB drive that you've got in the back of your drawer.

It's just there if you ever need it one day. Exactly. And one thing I'd say to people out there who were just getting on board with the cloud storage, just want to understand it a bit more is just getting an account with everyone that's out there. Like just get free account because you don't know where you're going to be using it and how they'll be used in your daily life kind of thing.

So that's my OneDrive works and my working documents through Word in Outlook in my office suite. And then Dropbox for my works scenarios and then Amazon Cloud photographs, family photographs, personal photographs, things like that with that. And Google Drive that's the next one we want to. You know, Google gives you 15 gigabytes for you.

And I think that's a really good introduction there for getting to the cloud. Yeah, definitely. One thing to be aware of with Google Drive though is that any attachments that you've got in your Gmail, they count towards your drive for the ridges or so if you're the sort of person who holds on to emails forever, if you're getting big files sent to you often then that will be into your storage. But otherwise 15 gig is pretty good.

It is. It's massive. And Google Drive works really well on Android phones as it showed them as expected to work. Yeah, and I think any documents or anything that you create in Google Docs or Google Sheens or any of the Google Apps, I think they don't count towards your storage.

Even though, you know, when you sync the Google Drive folder, those documents do show up as a physical file on your laptop. They just don't count towards your storage. I think it doesn't seem like any of them, and if they do, they're so small, you could probably have thousands of Google Docs before you have any sort of denting storage. Yeah, but that's, I use that again for personal stuff.

So only photos on my phone that I take, but I'm going to holiday out and about it and they get synced straight away to Google Drive folder. I've got a number of clients actually who share their photography, content, website, ability itself using Google Drive as well. So they'll create a folder and then they'll invite me to that folder and then they'll share everything on there. So the fact that these guys can actually use it without any kind of issues is, you know, that's pretty cool as well.

So I like the fact that it's very, very easy to use. And yeah, it's just a good solution up there. Probably my favorite, I think, out of a lot. Let me put the next one iCloud which we've touched on.

I don't know much about it. Maybe you want to give me a break down on that. Yeah. So like I mentioned earlier, iCloud, if you've got an Apple ID, you get five gigabytes of iCloud storage for free.

And that gets used for backing up photos or backing up your whole phone even. You can use it for storing your contacts, any documents within apps. So if you're using like keynote or pages, any documents you create, they can get stored in there. And any apps that you have on your phone, if they have any local storage.

So maybe something like if you've got WhatsApp on your phone and someone's, you know, you've got a group chat going, which has got lots of files being shared and so on, all that data can be backed up to iCloud. So you know, it can get you to not fail quickly. And like I said earlier, you know, five gigabytes, generally not enough for most people for any sort of power users of their phone. And especially if you've got a phone, an iPad, and a Mac as well, all on the same account, it'll get, you know, pretty quickly.

But it's not expensive. It's like 50 gigabyte is 79 pence a month or 99 cents. So it's cheap for 50 gig. Yeah, that's pretty cool actually.

But yeah, I'm hardly going to use it. So for me, it's not, it's just not there. I think it's kind of working in the background. And then the next one, we've got box which you guys use, right?

Yeah. So like I said, I've got my personal account in my box account, which is 50 gig. I use it as an archive, but we use it as an archive. So we've got an enterprise account, our work part of the IBM enterprise.

And we use that for everything. We use it for everyone has their own personal folder within box, but then all the company wide IBM stuff is sold in there as well. So, yeah, I don't even want to know how much storage we're using in box, but company wide, we must be using hundreds of terabytes, I would say. Well, yeah, both IBM those.

So you can imagine. Yeah, exactly. The thing I remember back in the morning, I was working with an agency, we had a local Naz drive and this thing was huge. You actually Naz drive like a tiny little one.

This thing was actually huge massive. It was like a wardrobe kind of thing. It might have been serving as well, but that's how everything was stored. So that kind of worked out the cloud.

So the team would be working on their projects and stuff and it would be kind of synced up to that. And yeah, you need to access to that at the same time kind of thing. So that was kind of that solution back in the day before the whole cloud thing came about. But in that sort of environment, you're going to need that kind of kit.

Yeah. And I think that's where box really shines. Like I said earlier, I think they are aimed more towards enterprise solutions, whereas like cloud and Dropbox and Google Drive, you can see that they are trying to appeal to end users of the mass market. That's why you don't really see box advertising anyway.

They haven't got massive social presence or they're not really on the tip of anyone's tongue. But in the enterprise world, obviously they're handing big amounts of data, clients like IBM, they're behind them, then they're obviously doing something right. I think the enterprise cloud storage is a completely different market as well. There's a lot of services which are purely for enterprise.

So we use this other service at work as well called Code42, which is the enterprise version of Crash Plan. Crash Plan is another like a whole computer backup service. So whereas things like Dropbox and Google Drive, they synchronize one folder generally. Crash Plan, they back up your whole computer and create like a disk image.

So you can recover the whole thing if you need to or basically delete the whole thing if you need to. And Code42 is the enterprise solution for that kind of quick look at that. Yeah, it's like if you've got 200 employees, then it's a code for you. Which is good.

It just sits in your menu bar and it just churns away and creates a backup of your whole computer anytime anything has changed. The only problem with that is that every now and then it really takes over your CP. Yeah, the fans go crazy and everything grinds so hard. Most of the time is fairly unintrusive and it just does these small changes in the background.

But I would say about once every two weeks, it just really churns away. Right. Okay. So yeah, that's going to be be a enterprise level.

Right. There's one that I came across recently because I'm looking for a different kind of solution for backups anyway. Came across backlays. I've heard of it.

Yeah, I've heard of backlays. Yeah, very similar to Crash Plan as well, where they back up your whole computer. Yeah, exactly. That's the kind of solution I'm looking at.

And they provide personal backup business backup and B2 cloud storage is a their cloud solution that we have. So I'll be looking at that. I think I'm going to, you know, they've got a free trial going on. I think I'm going to have to go with their solution to see how that works.

But also far, all the reviews have been top notch and everyone's recommended it. Yeah, I've heard good things about blackbait because they're fairly cheap as all. And it's like $5. Did they charge $1,000 per computer or something?

And that's like unlimited backups. And then I think they just charge you if you want to recover that data, then they charge you based on how much you want to recover. Yeah. Yeah.

That's decent. I'm happy to see how that goes. So I think we've kind of touched on the usage of these storage solutions. For me personally, I'm finding I'm using Google Drive Amazon cloud drive and iCloud without even realizing that it's actually doing anything.

But they're mainly for personal use. And my work related stuff is mainly on Dropbox, OneDrive and Google Drive as well. So a bit of both there. I guess it's all kind of, see, let's mention Google in this.

Yeah, there's very, very stiff and useless with these things. And I think some of them are a bit more suited towards work related kind of activities than the others. Like iCloud, I would suggest that for teams or things like that. No, I don't even think they've got the concept of any sort of enterprise iCloud.

I think iCloud is purely personal. You can be family. Yeah, it's a great family. Yeah, so you can share it within your family members, but I don't believe they've got any sort of enterprise solution.

Yeah. I think for me Dropbox is like the ideals of work sort of solution. Within the recent updates that they've released, you can make notes against files and you can have conversations within the Dropbox browser, if you like, in the browser or their website once you log in, you can leave comments on files, your clients can be back on any kind of work you've uploaded to the folders. So I find that real benefit, especially when you need some kind of communication with your client or let's say you're working with a team, just some quick notes, quick, easy updates on any kind of work you've been doing in a shared folder as a nice little feature to have with Dropbox.

And I think Google have released that as well. So Google have got some kind of notes. Yeah, Google drivers had commenting for a while, we can comment on files or folders. I think Dropbox have taken it to an extra step where you can add, you can add notes to a description to a folder and you can assign tasks to people and stuff like that.

It's good. I mean, if your whole team is on there, then you could service you use. But one thing that Dropbox did is they pushed that feature on to everybody. And I think for most people, people like me who are just using Dropbox or their personal files, but we have no use for those features, because I don't need to leave comments on my files, because there's no one else to be them.

Exactly. For me, it's different. I've got a number of clients who use Dropbox to share images of anyone sharing design with them. And rather than firing emails back and forth, they'll just give a comment straight away on the file.

But then I know we'll set them on. We can have a little conversation there. It's still in one place as well. You don't have to jump around between different software applications.

Yeah, it's good. I mean, that's what they're all trying to do now. They're trying to create these sharing services are trying to be your go-to place now, where they're not just a folder that sings anymore. They're a whole suite of apps that are related to them, and they're trying to just keep you into their ecosystem.

So if you do pick one and go all in, you may get a little bit stuck, but I think like we said earlier, it's good to just create an account on all of them and see which one fixed your workflow the best and your file of work here, because they all offer something slightly different. But if you just want literally a folder which syncs to the cloud, and across all your computers, then I would put my money in Dropbox. I think it's definitely the most robust solution. And it's got proven track record.

Just turn off the app, then you just talk app if you can, because it's just pointless. Well, you heard it guys, it's the number one tip for my day. Dropbox and just turn off the app and you can put yourself a really good solution there. Yeah, so that's pretty much everything we've got for cloud storage.

Like we said, just try out all of them, see what works for you, and just make sure that you definitely got something in place, because it's going to save you one day. It's much better than don't just rely on physical storage, if you've got anything in the port in store. So before we go, have you any recommendations for anything this week? So yeah, I've been on Netflix quite a bit this weekend.

There's two main shows that I've been watching. So number one, everyone's talking about it a couple of weeks. I kind of made a mistake. I started watching Netflix, not realizing I was watching the new season.

Well, I haven't even watched the old one, the original one. So I kind of got four episodes in and then found out afterwards that I should be watching Top Boy, Summer House. So they're actually both on Netflix. So start with Top Boy, Summer House and then watch the new one.

Brilliant show, absolutely amazing. Yeah, everyone's talking about it. I think it's number one on Netflix, UK's Watchlist at the moment. So yeah, highly recommend that one.

And the other one that I'm starting watching is Unbelievable. It's brilliant. It's not a crime one. And it's about a girl who's salted.

And the thing is, nobody believes her. And yeah, it kind of goes on from it. I want to give away too much about it. But it's brilliant.

So yeah, unbelievable. And top-way, my two recommendations. I'll just add them both to my list. Brilliant.

Yeah. Okay. I'm going to recommend a YouTube channel. It's the YouTube channel is called Corridor Crew.

It's by these VFX artists. The company's called Corridor, I think they just called Corridor. And they've got a couple of YouTube channels, one called Corridor Crew, which is like a behind the scenes about what the actual crew get up to. Corridor is their main channel where they showcase in their actual work.

But this one, Corridor Crew, they basically, a couple of the guys, two or three of the guys, they sit down on a couch and they sort of pick apart VFX from various films. They show their own films as well that they work on. They've worked on a lot of Marvel films and stuff like that. And they basically show the process of how some of the visual effects is done in some of these films.

And then every now and then they'll invite other VFX artists to come along to their show and they'll talk about their process. And they'll compare like good CGI and bad CGI and stuff like that. Another cool thing they do is they invite stuntmen onto their shows or stunt people, shall I say. And they'll look at action sequences and they'll get this stunt person to describe how that sequence was done.

One of the really cool ones I saw recently was about Mission Impossible Fallout. And there's a scene in there where Tom Cruise and Henry Cavill, they're fighting in a nightclub's bathroom. And it looks like a really aggressive violent fight where people have been thrown against the urinals and the sinks and bashing through walls and stuff like that. And they basically just slow down the footage and they explain how that whole room, although it looks like a bathroom in a nightclub, it's all actually a padded, completely padded room made out of foam.

It's like a dense foam. So they were running around on it and this floor is all completely soft. And there was this one particular scene where Tom Cruise falls down onto his knees onto these tiles, a tiled shelf. And when they're slowed down, you can see that those tiles bending where his knee is like pressing into it.

So it's really impressive and they talk about how they practice these action sequences and how the CGI plays a part in making these sequences come to life. So that's really cool. So that's Coridocru. I'll definitely check that one out.

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