EPISODE · Aug 16, 2026 · 59 MIN
Coaching a Series B CEO Fix His Co-Founder Problem | Len May | Ep 1008
from Outlier's Edge Podcast with Niiamah Ashong
"If we're in a foxhole together, you have my right side. I never ever ever have to worry about my right side." — LenJoin Niiamah (@niiamahashong) and Len May for a live coaching session. Len built a company to find root cause. Genetics, biomarkers, real prevention instead of another pill. Then he spent years treating a symptom inside his own leadership team. This session covers what happens when equity fails to produce ownership. What a partner actually is, as opposed to a person you like. And why the same conversation, repeated for years, is never a communication problem.Three things leaders take from this one:- Equity does not buy ownership behavior. If you keep re-incentivizing, the incentive was never the issue.- If you have to check your right side, you do not have a partner.- The conversation you keep having is the diagnosis.Welcome to the Outlier's Edge Podcast, hosted by Niiamah Ashong, Founder of Outlier's Edge and Sherpa of the World of Difference. On this podcast, you'll join other high-performing unconventional leaders and entrepreneurs (aka Outliers) as they talk about leveraging what makes them different to make a difference in the world.--Check out the video episode on YouTube!--Timestamps:00:00 - Welcome to Outlier's Edge Live03:38 - What Len Is Building19:47 - Naming His Own Root Cause24:12 - How Can I Help36:43 - The Question Nobody Asked37:47 - Partner Or Employee43:20 - The Foxhole Test51:44 - Treating A Partner Like Staff54:10 - Push Versus Pull58:05 - Raise The BarEnter Outlier’s Edge World:Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | Youtube | Website | Guild Community
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