Colbert & Letterman Miss the Point, Alex Cooper Backlash, China’s Control, and Steve Jobs’ Lost Years, with Geoffrey Cain and Sam Brownback

Emily Jashinsky opens the show with a look at David Letterman and Stephen Colbert’s sad sendoff for “The Late Show” and explains why they just don’t get what really went wrong. Then Emily is joined by Sam Brownback, author of the new book, “China's War on Faith.” He’s also a former U.S. Ambassador at Large for International Religious Freedom, and a former Senator and Governor from Kansas. They discuss the truth about China’s crackdown on faith, the surveillance-heavy system where churches are monitored, how this is really a broader ideological battle between communism and the West, plus President Trump’s recent trip to China. Next Emily brings in Geoffrey Cain, journalist, and author of the brand-new book, “Steve Jobs in Exile: The Untold Story of NeXT and the Remaking of an American Visionary.”  Emily and Geoffrey discuss the inside story of Jobs’ exile years when he was pushed out of Apple, how his transformation came through repeat failures, his near-bankruptcy, and family life. They also discuss Harrison Ford’s recent commencement address and how one-time Boomer ‘rebels’ became part of the establishment. They round out the conversation with a discussion about China, media coverage of its authoritarianism and American supply chain dependence. Emily wraps up the show with some thoughts on Alex Cooper’s pregnancy announcement and why it cuts deep for so many women who don’t have the advantages Cooper has, and more…   Unplugged: Switching is simple. Visit https://Unplugged.com/EMILY and order your UP phone today!   PreBorn: Help save a baby go to https://PreBorn.com/Emily or call 855-601-2229.   Toups & Co: Ready to give Toups a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to https://toupsandco.com/afterparty , and use code AFTERPARTY for 25% off your first order. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.