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EPISODE · Oct 6, 2026 · 2 MIN

Coming Soon! The Builders

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Whose imagination do you want to live in? In this new series, bestselling biographer Walter Isaacson sits down with the most consequential names in AI and tech to understand the futures they're racing to build. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Alex Karp, Fei-Fei Li, Dario and Daniela Amodei, and more open up about their ambitions, what frightens them, how they think about humanity, and what drives them to build so big and so fast. The conversations are intimate, charming, and sometimes chilling. But mostly, they're impossible to dismiss. Because whether or not you agree with them, it's their imagination we're all starting to live in. ABOUT THE HOST Walter Isaacson is the bestselling author of biographies of Elon Musk, Jennifer Doudna, Leonardo da Vinci, Steve Jobs, Benjamin Franklin, and Albert Einstein. He is a professor of history at Tulane University and previously served as CEO of the Aspen Institute, chair and CEO of CNN, and editor of Time. He was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2023. IN THIS SEASON Elon Musk (Tesla, SpaceX, xAI) Peter Thiel (Founders Fund, PayPal, Palantir) Mustafa Suleyman (Microsoft AI, DeepMind) Dario Amodei and Daniela Amodei (Anthropic) and more! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How do you know when you're dealing with claud that it won't become manipulative? Do you see any problem having drones that'll make kill decisions without a human being in the loop? If artificial intelligence can do so much and take over so much of what we do, what's left for humans to do, how do we find meaning? I'm Walter Isaacson, host of The New Podcast, The Builders.

There's no question of living through an AI arms race, but I wanted to understand what are we racing towards? So I went directly to the people shaping our future, to understand what they believe, what they fear, and where they think all of this is heading. People like Elon Musk. If there's a million times more digital intelligence than there is biological intelligence, it's hard to imagine humans being in control of that scenario.

Dario and Daniella Amade. Six months from now, the things that seemed hard, they're going to be easy. Twelve months from now, the things that seemed impossible, the models are going to be doing them regularly. Palmer Lucky.

You don't want to live in a world where a handful of corporate weapons executives get to have control over US foreign policy. Shouldn't the democratically elected leaders make that decision rather than heads of technology corporations? Alex Karp, Fei-Fei Li, Gary Tan, and more. I wanted to understand what they're building towards and what future we will all inherit.

How do we create the future we want in Silicon Valley is always saying that we're shaping about the way to predict the future is to create it? Well, yeah, it's up to us. But when you say us, who's us? Is it 400 people that you know in Silicon Valley?

Is it me down here in New Orleans? What are we supposed to do? These builders are brilliant, brash, controversial. Their decisions are already shaping our world.

And now we live on their timeline, where the age of intelligence is much closer. The question is, whose imagination do we want to live in? My God, you just scale this thing up another factor of a million and it'll be better than humans at everything. Listen to the builders on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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